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I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
Splatlame said:
Alright, let's get right to it.
I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
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1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
jjayzx said:
1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
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Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
Splatlame said:
Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
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I have a Pixel XL that I purchased directly from Google and I use it on Verizon. Powering up the phone the first time with the Verizon SIM gave me a message that the phone was activated but it did not re-lock my bootloader. That was my experience. Originally it would only connect to 3G and not LTE. I had previously used it on Fi. I had to delete the data(NOT Factory Reset) from the Fi app(with the Fi SIM still installed) and then power down, switch SIM's, then power up to get full 4G LTE connection on Verizon. After I deleted that Fi app data and powered up with the Verizon SIM it selected the normal VZWINTERNET APN and worked fine. Hope this helps. Again though the Verizon SIM did not re-lock my bootloader. This isn't to say they won't try to re-lock it in the future with an update.
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I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader.
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Not true. I have a VZW Pixel on Project Fi. My bootloader can not be unlocked.
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
Splatlame said:
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
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Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
TonikJDK said:
Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
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That method does not work anymore.
bradhoschar said:
That method does not work anymore.
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He said if it's on 7.1
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He said if it's on 7.1
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You're right.
On a side note, if anybody has a TRULY defective device on Verizon and want a Google replacement, see my post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...-buying-verizon-edition-t3581406/post71866381
So, i broke my direct from google pixel xl, that was unlocked. I had insurance through verizon and they sent me a new one. Now, i know the verizon versions are locked, which is what i didn;t want, but i had no choice through asurion. The phone i received is on NHG47L which isn't the verizon version, but the OEM unlock is still grayed out. can anyone tell me why i can't unlock even though this seems to be a google fi/tmobile build?
i have no put a sim in it yet, i've only connected it to wifi. i'm waiting till i have a firm answer one way or the other.
@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
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@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
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i did connect it to wifi, it did not change the OEM unlock option.
@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
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@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
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Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
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Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
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If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
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If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
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so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
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so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
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ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
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ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
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i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
Legacystar said:
i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
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The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
pcriz said:
The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
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So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
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So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
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You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
pcriz said:
You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
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Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
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Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
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Verizon isn't the only carrier to lock it down. Google has never been implicitly root friendly, also I'm sure a partner ship with verizon is to their benefit. Like getting their foot in the door to a wider market. The trade off is the bootloader.
I've had my eye on this phone for a bit now, and if all is good, I'm going to get one next weekend.
Some disturbing news though, it appears that unlocking the bootloader will completely kill the cameras. And the only way to get them functional again, is to lock the bootloader again.
SO, I guess this means that recovery, root, or anything else that requires modifiying the system in any way, will kill the use of the cameras?
Is it possible to unlock, root and do whatever, then relock the bootloader and get cameras back while still having root?
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
Btw what phone you want to unlock?
Sometimes it is better to keep quite, specially when you are not aware about current affairs.
@ OP yes, still same.
dr.ketan said:
Sometimes it is better to keep quite, specially when you are not aware about current affairs.
@ OP yes, still same.
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Well, dang. That kind of kills the idea of fully functional phone with root. I mostly use root for ad blocking anymore. I don't really do the custom ROM thing all that much. Custom Android development these days isn't what it used to be.
I'm looking at either the carrier unlocked version, or the Verizon version (as I have Verizon as my carrier)
I believe rooting for ad blocking means you are paying more (now a days). In my opinion, Private DNS could be a good choice for ad block on unrooted.
I use AdAway. Works perfectly. But for best use, requires root. But yeah, other than that, I don't really use root. Would be nice to have a functional TWRP, but that may or may not happen. But that camera kill is a problem. I guess if I can get DNS to work, I won't have to worry about the bootloader at all. There would be no point.
I use AdGuard on my non-rooted phone and I don't see ads. None.
I see no reason why you need to root to just block ads. There are some great ad blocking apps out there. I love AdGuard because it works not only on my phone, but my PC as well.
There is a reason you cannot get this on the PlayStore. Google kicked it off because it works so well.
NextDNS
tze_vitamin said:
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
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Actually that is where you are wrong. Another user on this forum unlocked their bootloader on fold3 and then their cameras where disabled. There is even a warning message on unlocking bootloader screen that states clearly that cameras will be disabled after unlocking the bootloader. Even Sony smartphones had this but then Sony removed it so cameras won't be disabled after bootloader unlock.
You can read more about it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocking-bootloader-will-disable-the-camera.4321957/
So if bootloader locked/unlocked doesn't much matter (at least at this point), since I have Verizon, is there any reason to spring for the Unlocked version over the Verizon version? Does the Verizon version have any more apps preinstalled on it that the Unlocked version doesn't? Does either perform any differently?
Unlocked carrier is not the same as unlocked bootloader.
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So if bootloader locked/unlocked doesn't much matter (at least at this point), since I have Verizon, is there any reason to spring for the Unlocked version over the Verizon version? Does the Verizon version have any more apps preinstalled on it that the Unlocked version doesn't? Does either perform any differently?
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Unlocked carrier is not the same as unlocked bootloader.
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What he said.
Carrier Unlock is the same as SIM Unlock which lets you use other carrier SIM Cards, has NOTHING to do with the Bootloader.
The Bootloader just unlocks the ability to flash custom Recoveries and ROM's. This does NOT SIM Unlock your phone.
Guys, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. I've been at this for 14+ years. I'm just wondering if there is a performance difference, or bloatware content difference between the Carrier Unlocked version and the Verizon Locked version.
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Guys, I'm well aware of the difference between the two. I've been at this for 14+ years. I'm just wondering if there is a performance difference, or bloatware content difference between the Carrier Unlocked version and the Verizon Locked version.
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Today, the hardware in the US variant "Unlocked" and "Verizon" versions are exactly the same. The difference is only in the software set. And you have choices there. With Odin 3B you can cross-flash between the models to get the software set you want. Hell, you can even put the TMO software on the VZW "locked" device (I use quotes there because it is only locked for 90 days, at which point it becomes fully SIM unlocked automatically). You can load the U1-XAA, the U1-VZW, the U-VZW, whatever you can get your hands on. I am currently using a Verizon device with U1-XAA software, happily on One UI 4.0 beta. The Note 10 was the last device to have different hardware profiles between carriers that prevented full cross-flash support, and that was just because of the differing 5G networks as 5G was still in its infancy.
Notice how my phone setting in the photo show my phone as being a U1 (because it reads the phones software), and my phone info page within Samsung Members shows it to be a VZW device (because it uses the serial number to look up info from its database).
If you have any specific questions about it, feel free to message me. I have been doing this stuff since the WinMo days before Android existed. I don't post a lot because very few people read AND understand.
Oh, and for clarification to all the trolls out there, my device is still bootloader locked, Knox is fully intact, and my device is still covered under warranty (This was tested with my Note20 when i had to have the NFC chip replaced, and it too was a U-VZW running U1-XAA software.).
tze_vitamin said:
The 90% people on this community first what learn ro do is to unlock bootloader. You think that they all dont need camera or..
How is that even possible?
Once when you unblock bootloader you can do what you want, flash custom rom, custom recovery, custom Kernel. Magisk. Magisk modules..
But when you lock it ,and something got wrong ,you get hard brick phone. Bootloader must ne unlock until you use root and etc..
Camera have nothing to do with unlocking and working perfectly. I dont know who say to you ...or make a joke
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Hoping for some progress on camera issue and all we get is this dips### lol
I didnt know that unlocking bootloader can kill camera. I unlocking phones , Samsung mostly. After then Xiaomi comes with lower prices and I now unlocking Xiaomi.
Can understand why vendors doing it..
But ... Some Hacker will always find some way
I have a U1 phone on Verizon. Everything works. 5g, wifi calling etc. Not sure if Verizon video calling works but who uses that? Duo is in the dialer I think. I've used opera browser for years which has ad blocking as well. YT vanced also and fblc
tze_vitamin said:
I didnt know that unlocking bootloader can kill camera. I unlocking phones , Samsung mostly. After then Xiaomi comes with lower prices and I now unlocking Xiaomi.
Can understand why vendors doing it..
But ... Some Hacker will always find some way
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It's with this batch of Sammy phones. Doesn't always kill the camera.
BUT they have tried and haven't found a work around. Maybe 12 will let us, but for now we cannot unlock withou the camera "breaking".
Please see my thread - i believe with a12 this is thankfully now moot!!!!
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
dprscorpio7 said:
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
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Haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming the Android Flash Tool would work.
Android Flash Tool
flash.android.com
DarkusRattus said:
Haven't tried it yet, but I'm assuming the Android Flash Tool would work.
Android Flash Tool
flash.android.com
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Also, just to confirm there is no bootloader unlock for Verizon version right
dprscorpio7 said:
Also, just to confirm there is no bootloader unlock for Verizon version right
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Correct, and likely never will have bootloader unlock (for this or any future Verizon phone) except perhaps paying someone to do so once anyone figures out some way to hack it. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. The only way in the past has been by vulnerabilities/hacks, or the one time Verizon accidentally let those on Android 7.10 on the Pixel 1 the ability to toggle OEM Unlocking, but they patched it in Android 7.11.
dprscorpio7 said:
Is there a way to flash unlock google global version firmware onto the Verizon pixel 6 pro without root/unlock bootloader like there use to be. Can't believe nobody has asked this yer
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Unless you'll be using the device on an international carrier Google doesn't compile for, there's no reason to do so that I'm aware of, as the images aren't for branded devices, but for the carrier the device is being used on.
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Unless you'll be using the device on an international carrier Google doesn't compile for, there's no reason to do so that I'm aware of, as the images aren't for branded devices, but for the carrier the device is being used on.
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I need the unlocked version from Google store. I still have a Verizon security check on the phone and I bought it unlocked from best buy... So that is the reason. I want to know if I can flash Google store stock firmware on this phone?
dprscorpio7 said:
I need the unlocked version from Google store. I still have a Verizon security check on the phone and I bought it unlocked from best buy... So that is the reason. I want to know if I can flash Google store stock firmware on this phone?
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You can only flash a full firmware image with the bootloader unlocked, however you should be able to flash the OTA update required (you could also use Google's online Android Flash Tool).
AFAIK, there is no difference in the firmware between the unlocked vs branded devices besides bloatware from the carrier.
My understanding of the different images Google has compiled for specific carriers has to do with tweaks to the radio software and/or how the firmware interacts with the radio to ensure the best possible experience across carriers.
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You can only flash a full firmware image with the bootloader unlocked, however you should be able to flash the OTA update required (you could also use Google's online Android Flash Tool).
AFAIK, there is no difference in the firmware between the unlocked vs branded devices besides bloatware from the carrier.
My understanding of the different images Google has compiled for specific carriers has to do with tweaks to the radio software and/or how the firmware interacts with the radio to ensure the best possible experience across carriers.
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Well I've got a best buy unlocked version and yes I can unlock bootloader no problem and still getting a Verizon security check on hotspot which is the reason for me needing different firmware on phone. So I'll go ahead and unlock the bootloader if you can point me in the direction links of information on the flash tool and firmware I'm looking for that would be great. I want the global firmware unlocked for pixel 6 pro link
Here's the image.
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Here's the image.
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That's likely not going to go away with the Global image since the only differences between the images have to do with how the radios communicate with the arbitrary carrier [AFAIK]. If you're using Verizon, the Verizon image is the correct image to use.
For your issue, there are ways to get around it, possibly via the build.prop, but if not, then likely via a Magisk module.
The last Pixel I had before the 6 Pro was the Pixel XL and tethering up until then was controlled via a true/false [1/0] value within the build.prop, however that may have changed, but tethering is software-controlled, not radio-controlled.
Full firmware image (instructions) vs OTA image (instructions)
dprscorpio7 said:
Well I've got a best buy unlocked version and yes I can unlock bootloader no problem and still getting a Verizon security check on hotspot which is the reason for me needing different firmware on phone. So I'll go ahead and unlock the bootloader if you can point me in the direction links of information on the flash tool and firmware I'm looking for that would be great. I want the global firmware unlocked for pixel 6 pro link
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean by Verizon security check. Do you have Verizon as your provider? If so then you're out of luck no matter what firmware you flash, hotspot will cost you. I'm not sure about what happens if you root though but that's a horse of another color. Lots of threads on bypassing hotspot restrictions if you have root.
This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
dprscorpio7 said:
This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
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Please see my prior comment
roirraW edor ehT said:
Correct, and likely never will have bootloader unlock (for this or any future Verizon phone) except perhaps paying someone to do so once anyone figures out some way to hack it. I wouldn't hold my breath, though. The only way in the past has been by vulnerabilities/hacks, or the one time Verizon accidentally let those on Android 7.10 on the Pixel 1 the ability to toggle OEM Unlocking, but they patched it in Android 7.11.
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That was awesome...
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This security check does not happen if you buy directly from Google store, so I need that firmware serial number and download file with how to flash it on my device.
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This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
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This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
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It is a security check, I promise you. I've had the pixels in the past and bad the same issue I'll show you that when I flash this unlocked firmware from Google store I guarantee you the security check or please subscribe will not pop up and will allow me to enable hotpsot
dprscorpio7 said:
It is a security check, I promise you. I've had the pixels in the past and bad the same issue I'll show you that when I flash this unlocked firmware from Google store I guarantee you the security check or please subscribe will not pop up and will allow me to enable hotpsot
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Have you tried to install global firmware on verizon Pixel?
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This isn't even a security check? Did you read the pop up? It clearly states to call customer service to subscribe and activate the hotspot. If you don't pay for hotspot, it won't work.... Also, if you bought the unlocked version from Best Buy.. then it is unlocked... There is no other software to flash. However, if you bought (which I'm sure you did) the Verizon version from Best Buy then it is a carried branded device, and it is unfortunately not unlocked straight from Google.
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It's a config file security check on carriers who charge separately for the ability to tether and has nothing to do with a carrier lock - if the device is bootloader unlocked, this could be bypassed previously
georgesurgeon said:
Have you tried to install global firmware on verizon Pixel?
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Please see prior comment
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Not Sure about non us but unlocked yes you can
shonkin said:
Question:
I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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Don't send back.... Using the T-Mobile app and chat you can be over complementary and ask for full unlock and should be able to get it that way. Option 2 is to use a modded MSM tool to convert to Global, unlock bootloader, us a modded Glo to TMO MSM TOOL to get back to TMO firmware and update. But recommend to stay away from A13 for now
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Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.
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Was your recommendation to avoid updating based on the trouble that DaveImagery was having with achieving root? If so, I can assure you rooting the T-Mobile android 13 update is no different than rooting the global or eu firmware, aside from having to always temp boot TWRP rather than actually install it. TWRP acts up sometimes but it works. I think he was either having a problem with the driver's, USB port, or cable, or something went wrong when he pulled the boot image via MSM tool.
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I just want to wait awhile to ensure all the kinks are out be for updating. Any new features etc...
shonkin said:
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I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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If you got the factory unlocked one then sure, it'll work with a t-mobile sim. The question is whether it will be 100% compatible with t-mobile's network or not. I don't know the answer to that question. It's worth noting however that the T-Mobile variant is slower to get updates, and just got Android 13 this month. If I'm not mistaken, the global and EU variants got Android 13 last year. This fall/winter the other variants will probably be getting android 14, while the t-mobile variant waits until next spring.
T-Mobile updates are slower because they are more refined and sometimes include multiple updates in one update. That is why they are slower..
shonkin said:
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I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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What did you decide to do?
shonkin said:
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I own a T-Mobile account. Just went through major drama w/ amazon seller, a T-Mobile phone that wouldn't unlock because it wasn't paid off, and more. Never mind that.... sending it back.
I want to know if I can buy a non-US and/or unlocked OP 9 Pro and still have it work with my T-Mobile sim?
I want in the end, ideally, to have a OP 9 Pro running the very latest Oxygen OS/updates and have it be rooted. But again, w/ a T-Mobile sim.
Advice? Has anyone else faced this?
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im on an unlocked (purchased new) OP9 pro and I have no issues. I've always wanted to see if TMO modem works better, but it works great enough that it't more of just a curiosity.
TheGhost1951 said:
What did you decide to do?
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I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.
shonkin said:
I decided to stay with what I got, esp. as the seller also (belatedly) included the original 65w fast charger. I did a bit of whining. So now I'm trying to get my employer to leverage t-mobile into unlocking the phone, since we've been w/ them a long time and it technically is my employers' phone. (They appreciate my geek interests and are willing.)
If I can get it unlocked, the next questions will be about just how flexible T-Mobile's sim will be with various rooted Oxygen OS's.
I used to root all the time.... my Samsung Note 4 (dang I loved that phone), my OnePlus 2 (rebuilt from 2 broken ones... by me!), and so on. But Samsung's Note 9 wasn't rootable (I didn't have the Exynos version). So I got stuck. This time I bought the OnePlus 9 Pro intentionally in order to play w/ rooting again.
But the whole thing has gotten more interesting. TWRP... does it still work and do the awesome backups / restores of multiple different systems on the same phone? And Magisk.... sheesh... so much I don't know.
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TWRP is a little wonky, Magisk is a yess!
If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.
TheGhost1951 said:
If you have no luck through TMO with unlocking the bootloader, let me know. There is another way to do that.
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How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.
Masterchief87 said:
How exactly would that work? I've read that using the T-Mobile->EU MSM allows you to unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, but wouldn't using another MSM to go back to T-Mobile firmware re-lock the bootloader? Would the fact that it's already been unlocked previously allow it to be unlocked again without a token, even after flashing back to the T-Mobile firmware? Mine came sim unlocked and didn't have any trouble getting an unlock token so I never tried the workaround and I've just flashed the unlock token every time.
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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....
So it is in fact possible to skip waiting for a token. You have to use MSM to convert to EU then you're free to do whatever since the bootloader is now unlocked? Am I understanding? I'd like to personally flash Lineage as soon as I'm unlocked, will the above process work for me?
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I have a modded TMO to Glo and a modded Glo to TMO.....I have used it before....
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I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?
Masterchief87 said:
I believe you. What I'm saying is that according to what I have read, every time you use a MSM tool it locks the bootloader. So you convert to eu, and unlock the bootloader without an unlock token, because this specific firmware is unique in its ability to be unlocked without a token. Then you flash the T-Mobile firmware with another MSM which locks the bootloader all over again, and now you are once again on T-Mobile firmware with a locked bootloader and no unlock token. My questions are:
1) Does the fact that you previously unlocked the bootloader permanently do away with the need for an unlock token, even after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware and re-lock the bootloader?
2) If so then how do you unlock the bootloader the second time after you MSM back to T-Mobile firmware? Do you repeat the same procedure you did on the EU firmware, or do you just run the "fastboot oem unlock" command from now on?
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The way it is done with the modded MSM Tool to go from Global back to TMO it does not lock the bootloader. Can't explain why, but it doesn't. A pure TMO MSM Tool will relock the bootloader. Been there and done both ways.
In a few days I will do it again just to triple check the procedures and create the necessary modded MSM Tool zip files to share.
Another way to get unlock token is by booting to bootloader and run the command to get unlock code. Copy the long list of numbers along with IMEI and serial number and email OnePlus support with the information stating the TMO unlock token website is not working for you and they will generate a token for you. I had to do that when my first token quit working....
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