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Buying HTC 10 from T-Mobile - what's the difference?

Hello
I am thinking about buying an HTC 10 straight from T-Mobile. My question is - will root/ROMs/recoveries work on the T-Mobile variant as well? Are they completely identical?
Thanks in advance :victory:

To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.

daniel2744 said:
To answer your question most root/roms/recoveries should work on the T-Mobile variant. It isn't identical because the tmobile variant has tmobile added software and its made to fun on their network. i have used every single HTC One starting from the M7. this year was the first time i haven't. I instead went and got the unlocked model and I'm using it on T-mobile of course. My main reason of always rooting and s-offing my device was to be able to convert it to a developer or unlocked edition. This time with the unlocked 10 i haven't gotten the need to do any of that. I haven't unlocked the bootloader yet although I have the option in the settings ticked that I could in case i would need to.
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What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.

Lightn1ng said:
What's the difference between S-Off and a Bootloader Unlock? Is it like Samsung Knox - where they only find out you've modified the device once you send it in - or does HTC get notified as soon as you S-off/unlock it? Thanks for the answer.
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Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.

daniel2744 said:
Bootloader unlock is what allows you to root, flash roms and etc. This is needed for any type of modifications. S-Off is not needed for this. What this does is allow you to further modify your device. For example, it let's you flash different firmware or different roms that normally your phone wouldn't work. So in my case the last few years I would take my T-Mobile M8 and M9 and use s-off and then flash them with official developer stock software and converted them into developer edition. the app to S-OFF is $25 but it's the best money you will spend
There should be a thread that explains this further if you need any help.
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Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!

Lightn1ng said:
Wow, that's a lot of info. Now all I need to do is decide between this and the G5. Thanks!
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your welcome. I know it was alot. lol Good luck on your decision.

Root and install twrp

I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting

revolt1 said:
I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
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Did you look in the development forum..

aholeinthewor1d said:
Did you look in the development forum..
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There's nothing there about root after update

revolt1 said:
There's nothing there about root after update
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There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already

aholeinthewor1d said:
There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
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He can't use those root files with an unlocked bootloader

I wish VZW users would preface their thread titles with [VERIZON] so the rest of us could save a few clicks and just ignore them.

@revolt1,
Don't hold your breath waiting. I doubt there'll be a method to unlock VZW Pixel XL bootloader running 7.1.1.

7.1.1 locked up the bootloader again. Need to wait for an exploit. I'm finding .ore and more these days that stock Android is my fav without root now that I have a non-root AdBlock method.
Sent from my Pixel XL

He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.

jjayzx said:
He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
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Cuz you have to be unlocked to root. Unlocking is step one before you can do anything.

An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?

Larzzzz82 said:
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
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If you find one in stock it shouldn't have the update since it just came out last week. You can't remove sim and skip setup and don't connect to wifi. Then you can unlock before taking the OTA. That's what I did on my replacement pixel from best buy

Just to clarify, if you are already unlocked before taking the 7.1.1 update you will still be unlocked after update.
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Is my model unlocked or not, and other stuff

Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.

Nobody knows? Is this the correct part of the forums to ask this sort of question? I didn't want to post in the wrong section and this seemed to be the closest fit.

aerospyke said:
Hi all,
I have a HTC that when I bought it, they SAID it should have been unlocked but I don't know if that means my bootloader is unlocked or something else. how can I tell if my model is unlocked model (model is just HTC 10 and I don't have any provider software installed on it either) ... I mainly ask as Android 7 was released to unlocked HTC 10 last year but I got no OTA notifications that it is ready for me.
Also if this doesn't mean that the bootloader unlocked and I need to go through it at HTCDev, then I believe this will wipe the phone... so I need to backup my stuff before I can unlock the bootloader, so I can root my phone, so I can install my backup stuff (Titanium Backup) any help on this one? i'm used to Samsung so the changes in how things work I'm still getting my head around.
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When you buy a phone and if seller says that phone is unlocked it usually means "carrier/sim unlocked". Your phone might be carrier unlocked, but bootloader unlock is different. When you unlock bootloader than phone gets wiped. Google servers usually backup your apps and some data, but videos/music/photos I backup on my PC by connecting phone to a computer and copying files to a folder.

If you bought directly from HTC w/o purchasing through a carrier (such as Sprint, AT&T, Verizon), then you have an "Unlocked Model". That's completely different from having an unlocked bootloader, which is not necessary to get the Nougat update. If you have an unlocked (carrier-free) HTC 10, then you should be able to get the update. I restored mine to stock, and was able to update to 7.0. It's possible that it's not available in your country yet, or that there's some funny software glitches occurring.
Hope that helps!

Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks

aerospyke said:
Thanks all for the confirmation. So from that I do know from when I got my phone, which was only 4 weeks ago, and no modifications to it whatsoever
a) my phone is carrier unlocked
b) I need to unlock my bootloader but to do that I need to backup my app data, Google didn't backupt he app data when I migrated phones, so all my apps were empty and brand new when it all restored to my new phone... oh well.
c) whilst i SHOULD be eligible for nougat as I have a carrier unlocked HTC 10, perhaps it isn't available in Australia for HTC yet. My colleague who has a pixel XL is still rubbing it in my face that he has 7.1.1 already
Thanks
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c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.

Tarima said:
c) Yeah Nougat is only available for U.S Unlocked (and tmobile as of today) thus far.
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Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update

aerospyke said:
Rats..... i'll just keep waiting, or wipe my device unlocking the bootloader so I can flash a custom ROM like Viper or the like. Decisions. Wonder when the rest of the world will get the update
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Australia is usually last to get the update.

Is there a bootloader unlock and rooting method that isnt a paid service?

I'm just seeing a few posts about how they got their phone unlocked and rooted by using a paid service...
This is an observation but I doubt this phone's dev scene will even get off the ground if the only method is to pay someone to unlock their phone.
Is there any method that doesnt require paying for a service?
If there is, can someone actually detail, step by step, on how to achieve an unlock and root?

alatnet said:
I'm just seeing a few posts about how they got their phone unlocked and rooted by using a paid service...
This is an observation but I doubt this phone's dev scene will even get off the ground if the only method is to pay someone to unlock their phone.
Is there any method that doesnt require paying for a service?
If there is, can someone actually detail, step by step, on how to achieve an unlock and root?
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No.
Paid is the only way -- either buying used phone from China with it already done or someone doing it with software through your PC...
Which is why development never happened with this phone vs the "EVERY V30 in the world can be Bootloader Unlocked and Rooted By Users" situation over in the V30 forum.

ChazzMatt said:
No.
Paid is the only way -- either buying used phone from China with it already done or someone doing it with software through your PC...
Which is why development never happened with this phone vs the "EVERY V30 in the world can be Bootloader Unlocked and Rooted By Users" situation over in the V30 forum.
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Sad.

rpgdev said:
Sad.
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That was outdated information. You can now root, I think.

You can bootloader unlock and root, Did myself on my v35 a couple weeks ago.

ChazzMatt said:
That was outdated information. You can now root, I think.
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Yeah, I'm reading a couple of posts now. Seems possible.

oem/bootloader unlock is impossible? on Verizon Pixel 2 XL (QQ1A.200105.002)

Hi all.
After Android 10.0.0 (QQ1A.200105.002),
is it impossible to unlock bootloader anymore? I've tried every unlock steps on XDA with current version, but failed.. Do you think it will be possible later?
Is there any way to get unlock code from Verizon or Google?
don't understand why need to follow Verizon device unlocking policy even I don't use Verizon network..
I bought it for developing frameworks and services but I didn't notice it is Verizon and Verizon's policy;;
Thank you.

CasperKH said:
Hi all.
After Android 10.0.0 (QQ1A.200105.002),
is it impossible to unlock bootloader anymore? I've tried every unlock steps on XDA with current version, but failed.. Do you think it will be possible later?
Is there any way to get unlock code from Verizon or Google?
don't understand why need to follow Verizon device unlocking policy even I don't use Verizon network..
I bought it for developing frameworks and services but I didn't notice it is Verizon and Verizon's policy;;
Thank you.
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The short answer is no. This topic has been brought up, and dismissed a few times already as many who have tried to find a reliable exploit, have simply given up. The P2XL will be 3 years old this October, so unless a very talented, creative code writer can find an exploit, I surmise that this topic will just quietly ride off into the sunset. Here is the latest thread that I know of if you wish to know more.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/zero-day-vzw-pixel-2-xl-root-t3977851