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Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Don't do that I have lots of problems with this device (if you want to use it for modding or just unlocking bootloader) Click
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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that's kinda single case. in general the N5X works very good, is easy to handle/to mod and its greatly supported by developers and Google.
also, the Nexus is always first in getting Android updates alongside with Pixel. so yeah, imo its still worth it to buy.
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Yes, I agree, it worked very well before the problem.
Here you have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izdD7l3BWY
Satisfied, and it is still a decent device. But if you are a heavy user with so many apps and multitasking requirements, I'd advise against it as a daily driver.
Yes. After more than a month of use, updated to 7.1.1 and jan security update, so far no problem. This one is my daily driver.
For the "right" price of course. You should try and negotiate.
I can buy three Pixels with my budget, but Im not considering changing my 5x as a daily driver yet. Using it since jan 2016, not a single issue except for the back cover getting dirty easily. Light, not too big not too small, not expensive, powerful enough for almost any task, great display, decent stereo speakers with mod, accurate GPS, good battery life with 7.1.1, always up to date, durable and impressive cameras.
Theres no better smartphone on the market IMO, of course depending on your wishes, you wont need anything other that N5X cannot offer.
It depends on who you are. A heavy user playing games, having a tens of apps opened or rather a decent one with social/media focus? This being a good device for sorta a middle demanding user. It's still got very good camera, vanilla Android, regular updates, good dimensions etc... Speaking for myself, I've always been happy with it. It just fits my needs
It depends!
i have this device from 1 month! it not so much time .. but enought for test it in deep.
the value depends on how much money you will spend!
because the 5x have some deficiencies compare with over middle range! display - battery - audio-ram is under the average!
although the cpu is a very good compromise: good performance and very low heat! and the camera is very very good too!
take your sum but i suggest to look something else and more future-proof ( mininum 3 gb of ram )
ps. I bought it because a friend of mine gave it to me for 100 euro 32 gb hehehehe and it have just 5 months. DD
It is a good phone unless you have unreasonable expectations. Works good for me
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello everyone!
So the new google pixel is out but it's pretty costly and since the budget is limited i was looking for a more economic option, so here i am.
Do you think that Nexus 5x is still good phone in 2017? Are you still satisfied with it or it should be better take a look for another phone?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
DaRk-L0rD
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Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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JovieBrett said:
Despite of the bootloop issue happening globally, I strongly suggest avoid buying it or any google device like 6P and other LG Devices for your own good
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
arvinsheet said:
I just got mine early this month, I bought it coz I know it would still get the next Android version after Nougat. This thing takes great photos, arguably comparable or better than what the current flagships has to offer. And feels just as snappy. I would recommend it.
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For some reason, I don't get no bootloops at all. I have stock everything.
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Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
My opinion: just buy it If you like the stock android with quick updates, and modding/custom rom
If so, it's excellent, great screen, great camera, a lot of community roms/mods so you cant get bored...
But If you are not going to enjoy that you better go to other option
JovieBrett said:
Of course not all of us would experience that right away, LG itself claimed the hardware problem presented on Nexus 5X devices which causes the device to loop endlessly, telling to refund them as they're no longer have the parts to repair it.
I have my 5X, I bought it 2016, January and I wasn't aware of the hardware problem happening on 5X due to the bad soldering on the motherboard which the flash memory and Snapdragon chip residing on, few days ago I didn't knew that was the end making my $400 phone a paperweight, the worse thing is warranty has already expired plus I'm living outside the US and Europe so Google and LG's support are unavailable and are out of reach, so what now? Google left me out of the blue for nothing on this crap phone. I'm a huge fan of their nexus devices and 5X was my first ever phone I bought and same reason as yours why I bought it, very disappointed so never again to them and LG.
It's not bad for me to say him avoid buying it because I'm just concerned about it, rather than blame everything at the end of the day when it happens...
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
Well, I got it for £200 and it is way worth the money. I think it's okay as a daily driver, but if you had the money - get the Pixel. It's just.. better. If the Pixel is a bit too much maybe get the Nexus 6P. It's an upgrade from this although personally I find 5.2" to be a perfect phone size, and alas the Pixel only comes in 5" and 5.5".
I'm using this as a daily driver with the following, it is still fast and amazing:
Pixel ROM (6.1)
F2FS Data & Cache Partitions
Adaway
Franco Kernel (r32)
SuperSU (SR3)
Naptime (Disable Motion, Instant Doze, and Exclude Fit)
L Speed (LNET Tweaked for Mobile Data, Disabled Debugging, and KSM Enable)
FKUpdator for HawkTail1.2 Governer
Thermal Throttling changed to 46 Degrees Celcius
XThermal Mod (for Charging)
Substratum for "Swift Dark Theme (7.1.1)"
TWRP Classic 3.0.2-2
UX Sound Mod (Final + HiFi)
My short answer No, do not buy. I was debating the Moto G4 Plus versus Nexus 5x last November and purchased the Nexus. It is impossible to say whether I would have liked the Moto better or not but I would research alternative phones before purchasing.
My longer answer is that the Nexus 5x works fairly well but often feels laggy, especially if you have too many chrome browser tabs open. Task switching often feels like my old memory constrained Windows 7 desktop computer. This is without playing any games or loading the Facebook app. These statements are made while running totally stock with the 7.0 OS release without any skins or launchers or widgets loaded. Also I might be primarily commenting on software issues with the Chrome Browser rather than the device itself but when on slow Wi-Fi or 3G connections I sometimes experienced greater than one second User Interface glitches when switching between apps or even getting the on screen keyboard to load in order to type. This all happened while on a long vacation/travel where internet access was often bandwidth constrained. Still I found the user experience to be poor even under good network conditions. I kept a few communications/text-chat apps loaded along with the browser and email and occasionally used some banking or calculator or news apps, enough that memory had to be reclaimed which appeared to be the biggest source of the UI pauses.
To add a little more context I purchased the 5x to replace my Asus Zenfone 2 after its wifi interface had died. The Zenfone 2 had 4 GB of memory and always task switched with ease and never felt laggy (though it was not a speed demon) even though it had a heavier skin. My old Nexus 4 was very SRAM constrained which eventually caused me to upgrade but it never felt as unresponsive as the newer 5x.
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They said the boot loops occurred after the Nougat update. I got the phone under marshmallow and updated it with no issues so far. Not sure if the boot loops occurs on all models though as there's a couple of them. I got the H791 (UK.EU version). Crossing my fingers.
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Then that's great for you your phone is running good 'til now. It just happened nougat is currently rolling out the time more and more users are getting affected because the older the phone, the more it's getting to an end, that's why lots of users feels like nougat is the problem when hardware is the fault itself, google and LG already declared their statement about it.
Hello,
First of all, I know there are/may be similar threads, but nothing recent afaik, sorry if I have missed something.
So to the question, is it worth it to get a Nexus 5X now? I was a happy Nexus 5 user for a lot of time, but the battery life got awful recently and getting a new battery for a second time doesnt sound ok. Will I be as happy with the 5x? Are there problems that the majority of units have? Any words on this vs the pixel (yeah, its a year older, two or three times cheaper, but if someone used them both in 'real life')?
Any feedback is appreaciated, thank you in advance!
In my opinion if you want a low price solution for a HUGE reward in return go for it. I bought the 32gb one on December 2016 so I'm a recent buyer. The phone is perfect for gaming and basic usage like texting music listening etc. As for the comparison between the n5x and the pixel, come on you already know the pixel is the better one due to its age and Google recent exclusive features support (I hope we get assistant on 5x ?). Anyway, my experience thus far on the 5x is this. Awesome camera, performance is absolutely amazing(if you're coming from a nexus 5 you're gonna be blown away) and only con is that ram tends to kill apps every 3 or 4 apps that open. My suggestion is you should buy it and don't go for the 16gb one!!!!! Cheers.
It depends:
Pros
Camera, Updates, Community, acceptable size, dual band Wi-Fi, 4g band coverage, GPS accuracy
Cons
Thermal throttling with heavy usage, weak mono front speaker, uncalibrated compass, small battery
The defects were not so important for me (I'm a normal user), so I bought it on July 2016. So far so good.
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Dont forget the possibility of your phone bootlooping after 1 year warranty!
I mainly dont like this phone cause of that, temp throttling and lower ram...
And you probably won't be pleased with battery life many are complaining about it. To me its fine cause i had a phone with 2 and a half hours soc max, and now its mostly arround 4 hours soc...
I dont know if u can wait but there should be a budget pixel 2 phone, probably much better than this but also probably pricier...
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Bootloop by aging solds is a serious item, if you usually do tasks, which let the processor heat.
I bought it in July 2016, absolutely satisfied. Nice performance (2 gigs of RAM isn't a big problem after all), perfect community and well built. For 200€ definitely worth.
However, I guess in 2017 I would go for Nexus 6P, OnePlus, Samsung Galaxy S6 or Note 4. But N5X is surely a safe bet, worth every penny.
Guys I am also interested in buying 5x , was just curious and the model , I mean do all the nexus 5x models are same? I mean right now I have s4 I9500 and there are way too many models which are a problem for me as development depends upon models , so how to check if there are different models of nexus 5x and which model is best? And as many of you guys mentioned regarding heating and soldering issue ,,, can anyone please explain it? I mean does it overheat during using social apps?
ridershahmir said:
Guys I am also interested in buying 5x , was just curious and the model , I mean do all the nexus 5x models are same? I mean right now I have s4 I9500 and there are way too many models which are a problem for me as development depends upon models , so how to check if there are different models of nexus 5x and which model is best? And as many of you guys mentioned regarding heating and soldering issue ,,, can anyone please explain it? I mean does it overheat during using social apps?
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There are two different models LG-H970 (US model) and LG-H791 (global model). The factory images are universal. Every 5X rom and kernel on XDA can be used on either model.
This phone will throttle at low battery from high heat. The phone will throttle at any and every opportunity of high heat exposure. If you reboot, the phone may throttle. If you flash custom software it will throttle. Usually thermal throttling doesn't last long unless you are in a warm environment. Whether you live or work in a warm climate, use mobile data hours on end, leave the phone in the sun, etc. Any app could cause the phone to throttle as well. Owning this phone means you will notice throttling at some point.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
There are two different models LG-H970 (US model) and LG-H791 (global model). The factory images are universal. Every 5X rom and kernel on XDA can be used on either model.
This phone will throttle at low battery from high heat. The phone will throttle at any and every opportunity of high heat exposure. If you reboot, the phone may throttle. If you flash custom software it will throttle. Usually thermal throttling doesn't last long unless you are in a warm environment. Whether you live or work in a warm climate, use mobile data hours on end, leave the phone in the sun, etc. Any app could cause the phone to throttle as well. Owning this phone means you will notice throttling at some point.
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Thanks for reply , confused bw 5x and op2
Just look how many threads there are and how many people are reporting bootloops and it isnt just nexus 5x lg has the problem with its phones bootlooping... Is there anybody that has this phone from the time they released it and is still actively using it (didnt have bootloop issue)?
All ppl here, in comments bought it in 2016, including me...
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InterrtuptoR said:
Just look how many threads there are and how many people are reporting bootloops and it isnt just nexus 5x lg has the problem with its phones bootlooping... Is there anybody that has this phone from the time they released it and is still actively using it (didnt have bootloop issue)?
All ppl here, in comments bought it in 2016, including me...
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Those people are unlikely visit threads like this one, right?
Though I am one of them.
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Those people are unlikely visit threads like this one, right?
Though I am one of them.
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Unlikely in many ways... For how long have u been using your device and on which android version are you on now? Do you play games on it? What model are u using?
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InterrtuptoR said:
Unlikely in many ways... For how long have u been using your device and on which android version are you on now? Do you play games on it? What model are u using?
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I am using it for about 9 months (second owner).
I am using custom ROM - pure Nexus , and it is 7.1.1 now.
It is an American version I think, I bought it there, I am not playing games on the phone, so it is rarely getting hot.
Guys can someone please tell me the best way to check the serial number?
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Just look how many threads there are and how many people are reporting bootloops and it isnt just nexus 5x lg has the problem with its phones bootlooping... Is there anybody that has this phone from the time they released it and is still actively using it (didnt have bootloop issue)?
All ppl here, in comments bought it in 2016, including me...
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I have been using a 5x since it was first released, ordered the first day Google offered it. Been running custom roms ever since. Or since they first became available for the 5x.
I also have it since launch (H790 October 2015) and it has been running exclusively on custom roms + custom kernel. Recently I've modified the cooling system (replaced the yellow patch with aluminium foil + thermal paste).
If I was buying right now I think the OnePlus 3T would be the most likely choice. It's a decent price too. Pixel are too expensive.
I have an inkling Google will announce a midrange phone soon. Perhaps at I/O this year.
Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!
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I'm really glad someone asked this because I am going through it too with my 5x. What do you guys think about the OnePlus 3T? Honestly, I have own every Nexus model,LG made the 4,5,&5x and those were always my work horses (flashaholic over here) and never had ANY trouble until the 5x.Now the Motorola Nexus 6,yeah they burnt my a** good.My Nexus 6p? FUGHETTABOUTIT!! You can add the F**KN to the front of that.It pulled this same crap months ago,now I have a great paperweight.Right Now it's a debate between the 3T and waiting for the OnePlus 5. I'm open to suggestions folks,if you know a better option, Please chime in!!!!
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OnePlus 3T is too much of a f'ing brick. Way too large for a phone.
I would probably go for the OnePlus X but it's not sold anywhere.
I would go for the Xperia X Compact (23MP camera! and nice size!) but no official Lineago OS support, so sadly a no.
I should clarify that I also require LTE bands 4, 12 (T-Mobile) and maybe even 17 (at&t) ...
You know after looking around the choices if you want good support by aftermarket ROMs and Lineage is either something like the OnePlus or the Honor 5X. (The 6X and the 8 still have some issues in development of custom roms, but the 8 is further along than the 6X). Or spend big bucks and get one of the mainstream Samsung S# devices...
I just bought one of the Honor 5Xs for my wife actually and just went through unlocking the bootloader, and installing Lineage. I must say Im impressed with, for $150 phone its not that far from or Nexus 5X. When I get back home (traveling for work right now) I want to load some games to it and see how it does. For basic tasks it seems great. Battery life has been great for her so far, and build quality is good. Most of important, official Lineage support. So while the specs being a little behind the our 5X had me a little worried, once I had in my hands I was pleasantly surprised. For the price, no complaints.
I feel ya, same here as far as the T-Mobile and AT&T LTE. How about swappa.com on finding a OnePlus X
andTab said:
Given the bootloop issue, what phone are people moving to?
Really liked this phone but with LG being unable to fix this reliably ...
Some requirements:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller
- Camera needs to be as good or better
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
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Yeah, and no Samsung or Iphone, no Huawei, Xi or ZTE either i'd imagine as they have all had problems worse or similar.
There will be problems with phones as long as new tech is pushed out faster than the tech is ready. I'd go with a Pixel phone which is in essence a HTC device which you apparently don't like.
So, Nokia 3310? It won't fail you.
Honor 8?
Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.
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Pixel. I really don't like the price tag (actually I hate the idea of a >$500 phone) but after years of rooting and ROMing I have gone hard all the way to the other side. I like the "Google" android experience, being able to easily take updates (since not rooted / unlocked bl), getting regular monthly updates and using Android Pay without hassle. The only thing I miss is Viper4Android. I really wish Google would pay some attention to audio and put in some better processing options.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
Second, after Google selling you a Nexus 5x and then ditching you over to LG with this issue, you really would give them your money again? Fool me once, ... I guess you can be fooled at least 3-5 times.
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Nope. I know all about the boot loops. No issues whatsoever with my 5x. Best value in a phone ever for me @ $249. And from what I've read those that bought from Google store, as I did, aren't getting ditched to LG for support. Also seen plenty of happy Pixel users too. If I still wanted to root/ROM there would be more options fore sure but I don't and I no longer can stand any other phones with their F-ed up UI, bloat and never having updates. As a Fi user I also couldn't be happier never ever having to deal with a major carrier again. Yeah, sure, I'm pissed at Google for abandoning the idea of disruptively affordable devices in the US but I'd still rather deal with them than a carrier, OEM or other reseller. Not fooled even once.
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Not sure on why you are so hell bent on thinking I'm delusional. I'm speaking only of my actual experience not others. Dollar for dollar the 5X is the best I've had. I'm very aware of the boot loop issue and acknowledge it's real. I'm not convinced that it's a manufacturing defect in all 5X phones ever made though. If you have some proof of that I really would be interested in it. Really, I would. Not because I dispute what you say but because I just havn't seen any proof that it's every phone.
Truth is even if I do get the loop I only spent $250 for the thing. I've easily got my money's worth out of it when compared to >$800 other options. Phones are tools not jewels. The cheaper the better. If there's another phone you know of that's not bloated, doesn't have a modded UI, get's security updates every month and get's new Android versions promptly then I'm all ears. Seriously.
If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
That is what I bought my wife and its pretty reliable for her (and easy to fix, as usual she hulk smashed the screen after about 3 months and I fixed it no problem)
BUT I am also very interested to see what HMD/Nokia do with their new phones. I have always been a Nokia fan. So it would be nice to get quality hardware with a widely supported OS (my brain thinks back to my old 8800 with Symbian S40)
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Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
But sure: fanboys will always buy crap from the company they love. Just be a decent human being and don't actually talk others into believing your delusions.
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Who gave the info that 100% of 5X is defected?
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Pixel is the ONLY replacement for me. But:
1) Is expensive (for a 24 months update device) and we don't know whether is gonna bootloop or not.
2) Still has the same random ****ty compass decalibration that I had with my previous Nexus and only haven't had with my current work's iPhone 5S (that works amazing in any historic centre in places with tiny labyrinth streets like Barcelona). This is the worst part of the Nexus and Pixels. And still using Google Maps. I think Compass issues are one of the Top 3 complains in the Google product forums. And they still haven't fixed it in the hardware or firmware of their products..
3) still lacking the old N5 OIS. But this is compensated with the great HDR+ that only the Nexus / Pixel have. IMO.
4) And the Pixel is still big compared to the iPhones or the old Moto X or Galaxy Nexus.
Vs iPhones this is compensated with the non-physical/virtual buttons that make the phones easier to be used with one hand all the time.
(In fact I find and iPhone 7 with that terrible home button...and some back buttons..and that landscape multitasking....as difficult as a phablet, but still is a perfect size and nice shape to use with one hand)
Now Vs the old Gnexus or Moto X...is still more difficult. I'm one handing a 6P half of my time though... But I still miss the X or Gnexus shape/size.
On the contrary I used a Z5 Compact, smaller phone, and is not more comfortable than a Nexus 5...because of the terrible rectangular shape and is slippery material. So the size of the phone is not what only matters. Material and ergonomic shape is important as well.
Extra: there is still no stock, only released in 5 countries, and I'm not that hyped after so many months since release date. Specially now that I'm got a 6P with a new battery (original Huawei was terrible messed). But still is a huge phone compared to the Pixel.
And my priority:
2 > 1 > 4 > 3
BTW: I've just bought another 5X from Amazon (used) for my GF, at less than 220€. If the Manufactured date is OCT2015 I'll instant return it. Otherwise, I'll intensively try it for 30 days, if it doesn't boot loop I'll take my chances.
For the same price I was considering a Moto G5 with 3GB of RAM (this is the best part of this device) but 16GB Internal and I don't really like the camera, at least in low light, plus the SoC is old and both phones will update to Android O.
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Definitely not. First, reviews for the phone are actually pretty bad.
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Most of sites giving Pixel critical reviews are just whining that Google is now charging the prices like Apple, Samsung, or LG. Otherwise, its hardware remains top notch, and the software will be always ahead of competition in terms of security updates and major releases. Some people can make the case that the Samsung Galaxy S8 is now the best Android smartphone. But I suspect that people who are used to stock and lean Android ROMs and speedy software updates would disagree with that.
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andTab said:
Great. You also know that you do have the bootloop issue ... it just hasn't happened yet. It's a manufacturing defect so it is a WHEN not an IF.
Second (or third?) Nexus device with a known defect (N7, N5x and I believe there was something with the N5) and each time Google passed the buck.
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I think someone from Google or LG said that only 15% or so of those devices were affected with the bootloop problem.
The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.
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If I get a refund for my bricked 5X, I think I might get a Moto X pure.
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Moto X Pure is a good value, but I think the new Moto G5 Plus (4G RAM version) has surpassed it. The problem with Moto X Pure is that Nougat is the last Android update it will ever receive (while Moto G5 Plus was launched with Nougat) and there is no fingerprint sensor. Otherwise, the big and accurate screen as well as stereo speakers still make MXP a compelling phone for a whole lot of people.
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The question is though, whom exactly can you trust to make a quality smartphone when the giants like Samsung and LG have been caught with their pants down a few times? You can't trust anyone any more. That's why I personally like the idea of buying a 300USD smartphone, like a Moto G5 Plus (4GB) or a Huawei Honor 8 (when they regularly go on sale). If it bootloops or explodes, it's not a huge loss. If it does not break, then you will end up with a whole lot of spare smartphones after a couple of years.
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Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
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Agree that those aren't bad phones but their size is just a huge turnoff.
Price wise they are about in the right spot: $200 - $400 should be the range for a phone that is better than the N5x at this point.
Like I said in my original post - the requirements for a proper Nexus 5x replacement:
- No phones from LG, HTC or Motorola (gotten burned once or twice by each one of these - NEVER AGAIN!)
- Phone size should be the same as Nexus 5x or smaller (ideally probably 4.5 - 5.0" screen with a high screen to body ratio)
- Camera needs to be as good or better as N5x
- Fingerprint reader and USB-C
- VoLTE on T-Mobile Band 12
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Seems that there is no such thing...
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Seems that there is no such thing...
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Lenovo Zuk Z2? It's on sale all the time as well and can be had for as low as 170 USD.
http://gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z2-8125.php
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So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
Was going to just do a battery swap and see how many more years I could ride this thing. Couldn't have done it without LineageOS.
My 3a XL should be here Friday.
I'll probably tear open my N6 to swap the battery just to see if I can keep it alive a little longer. But it would be interesting to see the longest someone has kept the same phone.
I also just came from Shamu. Unfortunately I broke the screen on my first (still have it) so I didn't technically make it that long on a single phone. I keep all my phones though. Still have my Nexus One, though it's been years since I've even powered it up.
You're going to love the 3a. It feels so much better in the hand than Shamu and everything is so much faster. And don't even get me started on the battery life. I consistently got 5-6 sot on my builds on Shamu (4 ish on stock) and now I get double that.
Consistent
Here is my normal at about 50%
I locked my bootloader out of boredom last week running latest complete stock with these results.
Good device for sure. I have 3a xl from T-Mobile fyi
Yea, I came form a Nexus 5x (had it for 2 and a half years) and the improvements over that are insane. I no longer have to keep it charging constantly and it's so much smoother.
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I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
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I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
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It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
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Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
I am switching to 3a from original MotoX running JellyBean mostly due to the battery not lasting long enough. I had a spare Moto X that I bough used for $100, this one runs KitKat and battery life is better (I rarely used/charged it) but it has problems running Google Maps, so considering current promotions on Amazon I finally made a move.
How do you know your phone is too old? When Chrome Browser has a menu item that says there will be no further browser updates due to OS not being supported. This is what I have on JellyBean, the one on KitKat is still being updated but inability to use Google Maps and a lot of new apps no longer being compatible finally pushed me to upgrade.
Og pixel xl about to be unsupported no more security updates after december so here you go moved on to a pixel 3a xl. I found a Great deal on amazon 150 off for a used 6 month old phone pretty satisfied.:good:
Got my P3aXL Friday. Great device.
But, I could see getting by with my Nexus 6 another year or so on LineageOS and a new battery.
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Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
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Long time no see... Just ordered my 3a xl... are you still doing roms or kernels these days on that german site?
I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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Great... and your on xda which just makes it all easier for us end users. I think I am the only one of your original 3 n6 testers thats still messing with roms. Once I get mine and settle in maybe I will test for you again as those private velocity builds we tested made the n6 screaming fast
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So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
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Dang dude, that's impressive.
I got a LG G3 in 2014, but moved to a Honor 8 after a couple of years before moving to the 3a XL a couple of months ago. Both those phones where rooted, but the manufactures were slow with updates and eventually stopped updating them. I ran custom ROMs on both, but eventually even those dry up, especially when a new major Android version comes out and the manufactures doesn't update the drivers to the new OS. Perhaps I'll have better luck with the 3a.
The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Will be by me as long as I own this. The main reason I moved in from Shamu was Pie was never functional to my standards on it. Many things never worked right and the battery was much worse than Oreo.
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The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
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Shamu was no cake walk to get fully functional builds on for the first 3-4 months after it came out and that was a basic 32 bit device with none of the recent security, partition, and other fun Google has thrown at us with Android 10. Shamu was also one of (if not the best) devices you could buy in 2014. Development will get sorted out at some point (soon hopefully) and when it does there will be at least 1 Rom for these which is all I need.
LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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That may be, but Pie Roms on Shamu were never fully bug free and the battery was never as good. I spent months trying to get all the issues resolved and never did. The reduced battery youre seeing is almost certainly from running a Pie Rom and not because the battery is too old. Just prior to getting the 3a I was running my Oreo build and still getting 5-6 hrs SOT on it vs roughly 2.5-3 on any/every Pie build I made (or tried).
Hi,
I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks
Hi @I7210I,
This seems like a Question thread (the default), rather than a General thread. You should change it back.
In answer to your question, I'd say if you find the Pixel 6 Pro cheaply enough, sure, buy it. Recently I saw news of sub-$300 Pixel 6 Pros on sale somewhere.
If you're going to pay full price or near full price (or monthly installments that total up to near full price), then I'd suggest just waiting.
Thank you,
The price I can get is 830 USD for the 256GB and 640 for the 128 GB
Personally, I would wait then, although I would fully expect to pay more than that for the Pixel 7 Pro. Since the Google Store is directly selling the SIM-unlocked (bootloader unlockable) 128 GB Pixel 6 Pro for $649 (at one point in the process it says $899, but the next step shows it back at $649), and you can get the 512 GB unlocked P6P for $849 direct from the Google Store, I would first determine what size you want. If 128 GB is enough for you, the $640 from your source isn't horrible, but if you need more storage than 128 GB, I think I would hold off until the Pixel 7 Pro even though you will definitely be paying more than $850 for any Pixel 7 Pro.
So I probably didn't make the decision any easier, but...
Also, I didn't stop using my Pixel 1 until a few months after it received its last update in December 2019 or so.
And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
thanks
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And the release date of the pixel 7 is right?
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I don't know what the release date of the Pixel 7 is. It is probably either next month or as you said, more likely October/late October. October 19, 2021 was when they had the first-day pre-orders for the Pixel 6. It was a nightmare. Their site couldn't handle the load, but eventually maybe five hours later I was able to pre-order. Got my wife's and my factory unlocked Pixel 6 Pro 512 GB models in late October.
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and about the p6, is the bugs are fixed with the updates?
thanks
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The only noticeable bugs I remember ever having were a slight problem with using gestures with third-party Launcher apps, but it didn't cause me a problem that often and was always recoverable. I know others have had other bugs but I was one of the lucky ones.
I haven't noticed the issue the last less than two days I've had 13 Stable installed but that isn't really long enough to tell if the issue is still around.
Personally, I think Android 13 is much smoother than Android 12, and when I reboot the phone, the home screen loads noticeably faster the first time I unlock it. I've been withholding full judgment one way or another on 13 because it takes time to observe all the overall differences objectively, and sometimes there is also a placebo effect with a new shiny Android version, but my general impression is that Android 13 compared to 12 is like Android 5.11 compared to 5. But honestly not as big a difference as the 5->5.11 changes - just reminiscent of that situation, although Android 5.x was when I was still using non-Google OEM phones.
You're welcome! Good luck with whatever you choose to do.
And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary
I7210I said:
And we said nothing on the competitors (S22 ultra) in front of the pixel 6 pro...
So everything is relayed on rumors about the release dates...
The price sounds good , and you said you was lucky about the 6 pro so that's one thing that might be scary
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Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.
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Well, from what I've seen in this section there were plenty of others who were lucky too. Any one of us can be lucky or unlucky with any phone brand or model.
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agreed, it might catch you in any brand and device.
overall I think that for that price it's looks good, and who knows what will be the start (problems, prices) of the 7 pro, isn't it?
and to go the S22 ultra is something else
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Hi,
I have P5 right now and it works fine, Is it worth to buy in that point of time P6Pro even though that in october suppose to come a new pixel? and also with the problem that he had?
Thanks
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i has hear several rumors about an early realease by september, with official ETA for early october... you could wait a little bit, however the price for the P6/P6P will surely down with the new ones on market, si it could be a good time for to buy at reasonable price.
I'd wait. The Pixel 7 looks like it could solve a lot of issues and shortcomings with the Pixel 6.
The Pixel 6 is getting harder to find as Google apparently wants the inventory gone.
If you're in the US, you could get a Pixel 6 Pro for $0 down from T-Mobile on the JOD program and upgrade to a regular Pixel 7 for free (Pro probably $150-$300 down?) when it comes out.
So as far as I see, the p7 pro is behind the corner, I'm in Europe till 7 of September, I hope that I will have good news till than...
anyhow, looks like its better to wait than if I understand, also the thing with the inventory is right