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whats the screen size in LxW?

3.6inches doesn't say much when you can stretch the Lengh and Width. Can someone tell me in inches how wide and tall is the 3.6 inche screen? I want to compare it to my Touch Pro screen.
Reason is I use Pocket Informant and when in calender mode it be comes almost unreadable with the small text. But yet on my old Pocket PC which had VGA 3.5in screen, the calender was readable where I would see the date and times in the calender view.
My TP= 1 and 3/4in wide by 2 and 1/4in tall.
my LOOX= 2in wide by 2 and 3/4in tall.

My TP2 screen is 1 and 7/8 inches wide by 3 and 7/8 inches tall
Joe

Hmm I wish it was a bit wider, but 1 and 7/8 is kinda close to 2inches.. I wonder if that's enough more to fit enough characters width wise to make it useable..

Well your TP screen resolution is 480 x 640, my TP2 is 480 x 800, so in effect it's a taller screen with pretty much the same width & same resolution, I dont think you'll notice the missing 1/8 of an inch!
Joe

Well the 480 doesn't mean it's the same width. You could have a wider screen wit less pixel density. Which is why I wanted to know the exact screen size to measure. Yours is a little wider than mine. so I'm hoping the extra space will allow more characters to be filled on the calender screen. When reading left to right. I know up/down it'll have more space per date.

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/25899-Tilt2-vs-Loox2-vs-TP2
I did a screen compare. Unless I'm totally off on the screen size. I hate conversion from "in" to "mm".
I can see why Pocket inoformant calender view was so readable on the Loox. And so small on the TP(It's not a TP2, It renamed it to TP2). The Tilt2 is large in height, but just a little wider than my TP. I wonder if this means my calander would look really tall?

[Q] How many square inches is the Epic 4g screen?

The iphone screen is 3.5" diagonal and 5.78 square inches, according to google. I can't find a screen size for the Epic though, beyond that it is 4.0" diagonal.
A ruler with one eye closed is giving me 3.375" x 2" or 6.75 square inches.
Has anyone found official height x width or surface area specs for the Epic 4g screen, that would not have any measurement errors I could have introduced or discrepancies based on my individual phone?

garyf said:
The iphone screen is 3.5" diagonal and 5.78 square inches, according to google. I can't find a screen size for the Epic though, beyond that it is 4.0" diagonal.
A ruler with one eye closed is giving me 3.375" x 2" or 6.75 square inches.
Has anyone found official height x width or surface area specs for the Epic 4g screen, that would not have any measurement errors I could have introduced or discrepancies based on my individual phone?
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To what end do you need to know these dimensions with such carefully specific tolerances?

I used this calculator .... http://www.silisoftware.com/tools/screen.php ..... If the aspect ratio is 16:10 for a 4in diag. its a full screen area of 7.19 sq. in. (2.12x3.39).

RandomKing said:
To what end do you need to know these dimensions with such carefully specific tolerances?
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Hey RandomKing I use your RandomRom Phoenix and it's working great. I figure I'll move to a GB RandomRom in mid-December after things have settled down for a while.
I'm just curious about how much more surface area Epic 4g has than iphone. The calculator says 24% more, eyeballing said it was only 16% more. A significant difference.
Official specs are nowhere to be found but now that there is an answer it'll be easier for the next curious person to find.
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Interestingly, going by pixel densities, we can get Apple's 5.78 square inches as 960 x 540 / 326 / 326 = 5.78
Doing the same for the Epic, we get 800 x 480 / 233 / 233 = 7.07
233 is the only figure anyone on the web seems to use for the Epic's ppi. Maybe it comes from Samsung.
I'm going to call 22% bigger my final answer.
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[Q] Aspect Ratio: Note 16:10 vs Note 2 16:9

Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated

scmlee said:
Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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I could be wrong, but I believe they increased the size of the screen and reduced the size of the bezel, so it would be roughly the same size.
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scmlee said:
Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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I have the Note (16:10) @ 5.3" and also the GS3 (16:9) @ 4.8". The Note's screen is substantially larger in width and height. Viewing web pages and reading, the Note is definitely easier. But while viewing movies or video clips, the 16:10 on the Note actually isn't that much bigger than the GS3. The "black bars" from the aspect ratio actually wastes the view space on the screen. So with a larger screen 5.55" on the Note 2 you will definitely have a better experience watching videos. And as for using the S pen to write with, you shouldn't worry about that at all. If you ever compared the dimensions between the Note and Note 2, the size is very negligible. My GS3 is my daily driver and I've handed the Note to my dad because the camera performance is much faster on the GS3. But once the Note 2 is out, I will be back on it.
Very minimal difference. The biggest changes are: Note 2 is narrower by close to 3mm, but taller by 4.25mm. I'll take the skinner taller chick any day
Note vs Note 2 Dimension
NOTE 1: 146.85 (H) x 82.95 (W) x 9.65 mm (D), 178g
NOTE 2: 151.10 (H) x 80.50 (W) x 9.40 mm (D), 182.5g
Check out the specs:
NOTE Original
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html?type=find
NOTE 2
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find

deliriousbb said:
I have the Note (16:10) @ 5.3" and also the GS3 (16:9) @ 4.8". The Note's screen is substantially larger in width and height. Viewing web pages and reading, the Note is definitely easier. But while viewing movies or video clips, the 16:10 on the Note actually isn't that much bigger than the GS3. The "black bars" from the aspect ratio actually wastes the view space on the screen. So with a larger screen 5.55" on the Note 2 you will definitely have a better experience watching videos. And as for using the S pen to write with, you shouldn't worry about that at all. If you ever compared the dimensions between the Note and Note 2, the size is very negligible. My GS3 is my daily driver and I've handed the Note to my dad because the camera performance is much faster on the GS3. But once the Note 2 is out, I will be back on it.
Very minimal difference. The biggest changes are: Note 2 is narrower by close to 3mm, but taller by 4.25mm. I'll take the skinner taller chick any day
Note vs Note 2 Dimension
NOTE 1: 146.85 (H) x 82.95 (W) x 9.65 mm (D), 178g
NOTE 2: 151.10 (H) x 80.50 (W) x 9.40 mm (D), 182.5g
Check out the specs:
NOTE Original
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html?type=find
NOTE 2
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find
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I have a similar concern, but it doesn't relate to viewing movies or video clips. My question is more around keyboard input for texting, emails, etc. My question is more around how much LESS WIDE is the screen of the Note II, versus that of the Note I. For my aging eyes, the wider the virtual keyboard in portrait mode, the better. So, I'm not at all concerned with the outer dimensions of the Note I and II -- I'm more interested in how much the usable screen's width decreases from the Note I to the Note II. Anybody got any info in this area? Thanks in advance for your replies.

Good comparison site for sizes of both displays
http://www.displaywars.com/5,5-inch-16x9-vs-5,3-inch-16x10
Portrait width is .1" narrower but .3" taller on the Note II. They also list diagonal sizes at the various aspect ratios.

Asquared said:
I have a similar concern, but it doesn't relate to viewing movies or video clips. My question is more around keyboard input for texting, emails, etc. My question is more around how much LESS WIDE is the screen of the Note II, versus that of the Note I. For my aging eyes, the wider the virtual keyboard in portrait mode, the better. So, I'm not at all concerned with the outer dimensions of the Note I and II -- I'm more interested in how much the usable screen's width decreases from the Note I to the Note II. Anybody got any info in this area? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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If you check the specs of the width, it is only 3mm wider, but yet the Note2 practically is all screen from bezel to bezel. You basically have an additional 6.28mm of diagonal screen space to work with. Again, I don't think you need to worry about the width and how it will effect your typing. It is negligible. 4.79 inches vs. 4.49 inches
Plus the latest keyboards from swype uses all of the width space and is very easy to type with even with the smaller GS3 screen.

Because the screen is taller, the change in physical width of the screen is very small, around 2.5mm.
There is a loss of 80 pixels from the sides but the remaining pixels are larger than on the note 1 to make up for the loss of the 80.
So physically there is just almost the same amount of room for the pen to move as on the note 1. Also I expect the keyboard buttons to be the same size, just maybe the resolution of the text will be less.

Sorry to resurrect an old discussion, but just wanted to chip in!
I had the Note 1 for 11 months and Note 2 LTE for 3 weeks and of course I'm loving it!
Just to point out, the results from that displaywars website are "rotated". i.e. width should be height and vice versa
It shows that the Note 2 is 0.3 inches taller and 0.11 inches thinner.
I must say I notice the "loss" of width in screen real estate. Although the Note 2 feels better in the hand. It could just be I'm used to the original Note.
They say how films are better on the Note 2 because of the 16:9 ratio but in my experience most modern films are being presented in the 2.39:1 ratio so I still get the black bars on the top and bottom. EDIT: However, TV shows are in 16:9 so are full screen.
Just my two cents!

Been wondering about this myself. I have a note 1.
Would the square inch space / size of the screen be higher on the 1? I did read ½ of the thread.

dhar8062 said:
Sorry to resurrect an old discussion, but just wanted to chip in!
I had the Note 1 for 11 months and Note 2 LTE for 3 weeks and of course I'm loving it!
Just to point out, the results from that displaywars website are "rotated". i.e. width should be height and vice versa
It shows that the Note 2 is 0.3 inches taller and 0.11 inches thinner.
I must say I notice the "loss" of width in screen real estate. Although the Note 2 feels better in the hand. It could just be I'm used to the original Note.
They say how films are better on the Note 2 because of the 16:9 ratio but in my experience most modern films are being presented in the 2.39:1 ratio so I still get the black bars on the top and bottom. EDIT: However, TV shows are in 16:9 so are full screen.
Just my two cents!
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sure most movies are 2.4:1, but you also need to factor in that it means that on the note 1, you lose even more rows of pixels compared to the note 2, so movies will still be better on the note 2 because the black bars will be narrower.
and i find my note 2 to be sharper than my note 1. even though its missing 80 rows of pixels, it ends up being sharper because it has a full subpixel matrix, which means that despite having 80 rows of pixels less, it still ends up with 30% more subpixels, which makes it better overall in my books.

all blurry
I have a problem my galaxy note 2, I think the loss of resolution to 1280x720 left the icons and letters all blurry, while the galaxy note 1 to define the icons and letters were much better. this is a hardware issue or software?

Wallpaper Resolutions??

Im sure others have noticed this in the past with pretty much all phones.
Why is it you always have to crop the pic when you make it a home screen wallpaper, even if its the same resloution as your display?
Example. the optimus screen res is 768x1280, why cant i have a wallpaper that size??
It crops the pic to a size around 600x800 , for arguments sake.
or for example , if you have on scrolling wallpaper why not a pic thats 5376x1280. This would be one full size 768x1280 pic for each of the seven home screens.
are there any apps/hacks to fix this.
just doesnt make sense, maybe im missing something.....
side note - i dont have any paint programs on my pc at the moment so i cant verify what dpi the images im using are. nor have i checked in the past, now that i think about it. it may or may not have anything to do with the issue
Thoughts?

I put in my own wallpaper - the image needs to be 1440 x 1280 for this phone. Are you talking about adding wallpaper for each of your home screens? If that's the case, check out MultiPicture Live Wallpaper. Yeah, the 1440 x 1280 image is cropped a little bit all around, no clue why. Same with my PC monitor - if I size wallpaper exactly to its dimensions it never comes out precisely right. Always have to compensate for that, depending on which sides gets screwed up.

After getting access to the factory wallpapers, I have found they are sized at 1536 x 1280 from LG . Odd size I know.
That is what I have created mine at and they work perfect without any cropping.

sanity29 said:
After getting access to the factory wallpapers, I have found they are sized at 1536 x 1280 from LG . Odd size I know.
That is what I have created mine at and they work perfect without any cropping.
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it's 1536 x 1280 probably because it's 1280 tall, and 2x 768 wide to account for wallpaper scrolling

If it's 1536 x 1280 then why does my 1440 x 1280 on the phone end up being cropped shorter on every side?

Like I said, that's the size of the factory wallpapers. Give it a try. 1536 x 1280. This is the home screen size. You will crop the sides for the lock screen.

Nah, 1536 x 1280 still crops off both sides and the top. Bottom is fine. Also tried multiple sizes to well below the given screen size and they still don't come out exact.
I really don't care, just wonder why this is.

Odd as that doesn't crop for me. Gives me the option to crop, but doesn't actually crop anything.

After going through a bunch of resolutions and aspect ratio wallpapers found here
http://topwalls.net/category/abstract/page/3/
Ive decided that the aspect ratio seems to be close to 5:4. It does still crop the edges but only slightly.
Resolution seems not to matter only the ratio. I've tried pics greater than 5000 x whatever and they work fine.
At the moment I'm using the Fullscreen 5:4 @ 2560 x 2048 and they look great.
Got my PC and paint programs back up and running.gonna see if I can find the exact aspect ratio and resolution size

In Photoshop I started to figure out what the precise figures were, but even when I loaded up goofball ratios and/or dimensions much smaller than the screen's 1280 x 786 (like 400 x 300) and then on the phone chose full width, the sides were still truncated. At that point I said - screw it.

Are there other Displays in newer Devices? Smaller Space, no rounded Corners?

Hello,
i got an old ZUK Z2 Plus. The Display corners are slightly rounded like in this Picture:
https://tobiashartmann-tobiashartma...content/uploads/2017/03/img_58cab69c8d860.png
Or here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/wp-con...3.1-on-Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-Plus-Oreo-Firmware-1.jpg
Then I bought a newer ZUK Z2 Plus and ... the Display has rightangle corners and the plastic left and right on the display is slightly wider. So the display is narrower and a row or two of pixels left and right is noch visible. Compare above image with this one:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/44cdaa40460af9ffca9284e722199b1a.jpg
Or here the wider Plastic: https://img3.gadgetsnow.com/gd/imag...es/smartphones/lenovo-z2-plus-white-64gb-.jpg
On my old one the plastic is 2mm on either side, on the newer one it is 3mm. So ... i am just a bit sad and wanted to tell you.

-gb- said:
Hello,
i got an old ZUK Z2 Plus. The Display corners are slightly rounded like in this Picture:
https://tobiashartmann-tobiashartma...content/uploads/2017/03/img_58cab69c8d860.png
Or here: https://www.getdroidtips.com/wp-con...3.1-on-Lenovo-ZUK-Z2-Plus-Oreo-Firmware-1.jpg
Then I bought a newer ZUK Z2 Plus and ... the Display has rightangle corners and the plastic left and right on the display is slightly wider. So the display is narrower and a row or two of pixels left and right is noch visible. Compare above image with this one:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170813/44cdaa40460af9ffca9284e722199b1a.jpg
Or here the wider Plastic: https://img3.gadgetsnow.com/gd/imag...es/smartphones/lenovo-z2-plus-white-64gb-.jpg
On my old one the plastic is 2mm on either side, on the newer one it is 3mm. So ... i am just a bit sad and wanted to tell you.
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well the question is... why are you buying zuk?

The display is the same size, but the black zone around the display is smaller