[Q] Aspect Ratio: Note 16:10 vs Note 2 16:9 - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated

scmlee said:
Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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I could be wrong, but I believe they increased the size of the screen and reduced the size of the bezel, so it would be roughly the same size.
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scmlee said:
Hi,
Firstly, this is not to start any debate about which aspect ratio is better, but is more a question for those who own (or have used) the first generation Galaxy Note.
I'm really looking forward to getting the Note II (upgrade from my current i9000) and my first concern upon hearing of the new aspect ratio (16:9) is how well it works well with the S-Pen for writing. Especially since writing in English (and many others) is from left-to-right, and not vertical. So reducing the width of the device means even less space to write.
So for note users, from your experience with the 16:10 screen, do you think the new 16:9 screen is a concern for writing with the S-Pen?
Any thoughts on this would be appreciated
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I have the Note (16:10) @ 5.3" and also the GS3 (16:9) @ 4.8". The Note's screen is substantially larger in width and height. Viewing web pages and reading, the Note is definitely easier. But while viewing movies or video clips, the 16:10 on the Note actually isn't that much bigger than the GS3. The "black bars" from the aspect ratio actually wastes the view space on the screen. So with a larger screen 5.55" on the Note 2 you will definitely have a better experience watching videos. And as for using the S pen to write with, you shouldn't worry about that at all. If you ever compared the dimensions between the Note and Note 2, the size is very negligible. My GS3 is my daily driver and I've handed the Note to my dad because the camera performance is much faster on the GS3. But once the Note 2 is out, I will be back on it.
Very minimal difference. The biggest changes are: Note 2 is narrower by close to 3mm, but taller by 4.25mm. I'll take the skinner taller chick any day
Note vs Note 2 Dimension
NOTE 1: 146.85 (H) x 82.95 (W) x 9.65 mm (D), 178g
NOTE 2: 151.10 (H) x 80.50 (W) x 9.40 mm (D), 182.5g
Check out the specs:
NOTE Original
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html?type=find
NOTE 2
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find

deliriousbb said:
I have the Note (16:10) @ 5.3" and also the GS3 (16:9) @ 4.8". The Note's screen is substantially larger in width and height. Viewing web pages and reading, the Note is definitely easier. But while viewing movies or video clips, the 16:10 on the Note actually isn't that much bigger than the GS3. The "black bars" from the aspect ratio actually wastes the view space on the screen. So with a larger screen 5.55" on the Note 2 you will definitely have a better experience watching videos. And as for using the S pen to write with, you shouldn't worry about that at all. If you ever compared the dimensions between the Note and Note 2, the size is very negligible. My GS3 is my daily driver and I've handed the Note to my dad because the camera performance is much faster on the GS3. But once the Note 2 is out, I will be back on it.
Very minimal difference. The biggest changes are: Note 2 is narrower by close to 3mm, but taller by 4.25mm. I'll take the skinner taller chick any day
Note vs Note 2 Dimension
NOTE 1: 146.85 (H) x 82.95 (W) x 9.65 mm (D), 178g
NOTE 2: 151.10 (H) x 80.50 (W) x 9.40 mm (D), 182.5g
Check out the specs:
NOTE Original
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note/spec.html?type=find
NOTE 2
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note2/spec.html?type=find
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I have a similar concern, but it doesn't relate to viewing movies or video clips. My question is more around keyboard input for texting, emails, etc. My question is more around how much LESS WIDE is the screen of the Note II, versus that of the Note I. For my aging eyes, the wider the virtual keyboard in portrait mode, the better. So, I'm not at all concerned with the outer dimensions of the Note I and II -- I'm more interested in how much the usable screen's width decreases from the Note I to the Note II. Anybody got any info in this area? Thanks in advance for your replies.

Good comparison site for sizes of both displays
http://www.displaywars.com/5,5-inch-16x9-vs-5,3-inch-16x10
Portrait width is .1" narrower but .3" taller on the Note II. They also list diagonal sizes at the various aspect ratios.

Asquared said:
I have a similar concern, but it doesn't relate to viewing movies or video clips. My question is more around keyboard input for texting, emails, etc. My question is more around how much LESS WIDE is the screen of the Note II, versus that of the Note I. For my aging eyes, the wider the virtual keyboard in portrait mode, the better. So, I'm not at all concerned with the outer dimensions of the Note I and II -- I'm more interested in how much the usable screen's width decreases from the Note I to the Note II. Anybody got any info in this area? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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If you check the specs of the width, it is only 3mm wider, but yet the Note2 practically is all screen from bezel to bezel. You basically have an additional 6.28mm of diagonal screen space to work with. Again, I don't think you need to worry about the width and how it will effect your typing. It is negligible. 4.79 inches vs. 4.49 inches
Plus the latest keyboards from swype uses all of the width space and is very easy to type with even with the smaller GS3 screen.

Because the screen is taller, the change in physical width of the screen is very small, around 2.5mm.
There is a loss of 80 pixels from the sides but the remaining pixels are larger than on the note 1 to make up for the loss of the 80.
So physically there is just almost the same amount of room for the pen to move as on the note 1. Also I expect the keyboard buttons to be the same size, just maybe the resolution of the text will be less.

Sorry to resurrect an old discussion, but just wanted to chip in!
I had the Note 1 for 11 months and Note 2 LTE for 3 weeks and of course I'm loving it!
Just to point out, the results from that displaywars website are "rotated". i.e. width should be height and vice versa
It shows that the Note 2 is 0.3 inches taller and 0.11 inches thinner.
I must say I notice the "loss" of width in screen real estate. Although the Note 2 feels better in the hand. It could just be I'm used to the original Note.
They say how films are better on the Note 2 because of the 16:9 ratio but in my experience most modern films are being presented in the 2.39:1 ratio so I still get the black bars on the top and bottom. EDIT: However, TV shows are in 16:9 so are full screen.
Just my two cents!

Been wondering about this myself. I have a note 1.
Would the square inch space / size of the screen be higher on the 1? I did read ½ of the thread.

dhar8062 said:
Sorry to resurrect an old discussion, but just wanted to chip in!
I had the Note 1 for 11 months and Note 2 LTE for 3 weeks and of course I'm loving it!
Just to point out, the results from that displaywars website are "rotated". i.e. width should be height and vice versa
It shows that the Note 2 is 0.3 inches taller and 0.11 inches thinner.
I must say I notice the "loss" of width in screen real estate. Although the Note 2 feels better in the hand. It could just be I'm used to the original Note.
They say how films are better on the Note 2 because of the 16:9 ratio but in my experience most modern films are being presented in the 2.39:1 ratio so I still get the black bars on the top and bottom. EDIT: However, TV shows are in 16:9 so are full screen.
Just my two cents!
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sure most movies are 2.4:1, but you also need to factor in that it means that on the note 1, you lose even more rows of pixels compared to the note 2, so movies will still be better on the note 2 because the black bars will be narrower.
and i find my note 2 to be sharper than my note 1. even though its missing 80 rows of pixels, it ends up being sharper because it has a full subpixel matrix, which means that despite having 80 rows of pixels less, it still ends up with 30% more subpixels, which makes it better overall in my books.

all blurry
I have a problem my galaxy note 2, I think the loss of resolution to 1280x720 left the icons and letters all blurry, while the galaxy note 1 to define the icons and letters were much better. this is a hardware issue or software?

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[Q] Screen

hey guys i was thinking about getting a galaxy but my only concern is the screen i have like an ocd thing about pixelation and i heard their hardly isnt any on the galaxy note 2 although it has less pixel density as well, well maybe at least compared to the gs3. how are you guys liking the new screen?
I came from the high ppi iPhone 4, from 326 to 267, and I'm very happy.
I'm not as OCD as you, but I'm still OCD, and with all the features of the Note 2, and humongous battery, I am definitely pleased.
1280x720 > 960x640 anyday, albeit lower ppi.
If you mean, clarity of small text. I can read full page pdf docs with smallish writing, in portrait mode. Dont have to zoom in. Iphone would be just a blur. The massive screen more than compensates for effectively tiny ppi differences. Wait till we have 1080p on 5inch displays then it will be more noticeable.
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No problems here either. I've owned all of At&T's recent top end phones (iPhone 4, Note 1, One X, and S3 to name a few) , and I think it's the best screen on a mobile device to date. PPI isn't the end all be all. The bigger the device the greater the viewing distance is. The greater the distance the less PPI really matters. Can't really compare a 4" and 5.5" device on PPI alone.
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That's great. I've been debating on getting one but now that I have opinions I might go buy one now
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/runevenes/sets/72157631743373121/with/8076319286/
Photos of Note 2 and the Galaxy S2.
Play Store (marked) is the S2
Chrome is the Note 2
Click on the pic to get a bigger pic, then rightclick and select orginal for the big pic.

Screen protection and rgb vs pentile question

I have a note 2 3g and i love it,when i today took a benchmark, the sgs 3 was a bit faster at 3d, other then that the note 2 was faster, not by much but faster then my sgs 3.
What i noticed was the sgs 3 has a sharper screen and i thought wtf (surprised mee) the note 2 has a non pentile screen, rgb screen (that's surpose to be superior to a pentile screen).
What's you experience about the screens,sgs 3 vs sgs note 2, pentile vs rgb? (is the sgs 3 screen sharper then a note 2?)
I use a copter screenproctor on both my sgs 3 and note 2, i noticed a lot of very tiny red dots between the screen and the screen protection on my note 2 (started using my phone before the 12 hours they say i have to wait, before using my phone), most noticible on a bright bagground as if theres still some microscopic leftovers of the aplication fluid, that i used when i applied the screen protection (can't remember if i had the problem with my htc legend,sgs 1 and sgs 2 where i used an invisible shield to protect my screen for scratches)
Is there any way i can make those tiny red dots go away?
The screen on the Note II has a slightly lower PPI compared to the S III (267 vs. 306, respectively) which is why it may look slightly less sharp, however the RGB matrix on the Note II should make things look clearer overall.
The red dots that your seeing sound like a side effect of your screen protector in my opinion, with those kind of screen protectors it can take up to a week for the application fluid to completely dry and for any "micro" air bubbles to work their way out.
For more information on the differences between the Note II and S III's displays and the PenTile vs. RGB matrices, see this article: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-2-vs-galaxy-s3-display-comparison-rgb-pentile-121182/

[Q] How is the screen size vs the Note 1.

This question is for people who have you used both the Note 1 and the Note 2. How is the screen size between the two? Does the new size bother you? Do you like it? Do you even notice/care?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
Mythico said:
This question is for people who have you used both the Note 1 and the Note 2. How is the screen size between the two? Does the new size bother you? Do you like it? Do you even notice/care?
Thank you in advanced for your input.
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Had note 1. For me note 2 is more comfortable than with note1. Note 2 way better in all aspects than note1
The screen is a bit higher, but smaller between the sides. I prefer it like this for games, videos etc. because that's why it fits much better in Your hand than the Note 2. The rounder shape is another huge improvement imho.
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Thank you for your information. I liked the Note 2 in every way I was just unsure about the new screen size and how it would compare. How do you like it for viewing webpages and reading, does it seem to impact it much?
It is sounding like a better choices so far though
Well, there are fewer pixels, but I am the kind of person that can't stand pentile sub pixels, so for me, the image quality is much better on the note 2. It's easier on my eyes.
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Aspect ratio on old Note was better imho. Phones are usually not held in landscape, so you need the real estate of the wider screen if it is to feel really big. 16:9 is better for movies than phones.
Never had anyone go 'omg that's HUGE' on the Note II, while it was quite common for the first Note. Not sure if it's the narrower screen that's the reason for that, or just that every other phone have grown for the past year
Apart from aspect ratio, Note II screen is better in every way.
Mythico said:
Thank you for your information. I liked the Note 2 in every way I was just unsure about the new screen size and how it would compare. How do you like it for viewing webpages and reading, does it seem to impact it much?
It is sounding like a better choices so far though
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I don't really think, Note 1 was better for browsing since You've got a pentile matrix there where it's not so nice to read anything. On Note 2 there are RGB-Pixels improving the overall screen impression. I really love surfing with my Note 2: It's just the perfect size for a smartphone You want to use for everything.
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sbcdk said:
Aspect ratio on old Note was better imho. Phones are usually not held in landscape, so you need the real estate of the wider screen if it is to feel really big. 16:9 is better for movies than phones.
Never had anyone go 'omg that's HUGE' on the Note II, while it was quite common for the first Note. Not sure if it's the narrower screen that's the reason for that, or just that every other phone have grown for the past year
Apart from aspect ratio, Note II screen is better in every way.
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Having had the note 1 for some time as well I would say the wider screen is better for browsing on the note 1. However the note 2 fits infinitely better in your pocket and for me that is a small compromise to make. If im going to do some serious browsing I'll switch to the desktop. Most of the sites I access from the Note 2 have their own specific apps. Like xda
It sounds like it isn't the biggest issue to people who have one. I almost never use landscape mode unless for a video/game. I am glad to hear it seems to fit better in ones hand. I can one hand it, but it does feel awkward at times.
Thank you all for your help.

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Tablet Hands on video

http://youtu.be/o4TpkOuneq0
the new Note has a 5.7-inch 1080p Super AMOLED panel, giving the user roughly 386 ppi to work with -- plenty more than the first two Notes, which both pulled in less than 300. It's noticeably brighter than its predecessor and offers great views from almost any angle.
Measuring 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3mm, the Note 3 is 1.3mm narrower than the second Note (3.8mm narrower than the first), as well as 1.1mm thinner and 0.1mm taller. It weighs 168 grams, 12g lighter than its father. We continue to marvel at Samsung's ability to make phones with larger displays and yet trim down their overall size. The panel on the Note 3 is just a little taller, not wider; the company trimmed down the bezels on top and bottom to allow more room for this. Fortunately, it's not so much taller that it makes for an awkward hold -- frankly, it's even more comfortable to hold than the Note II, and as a result it may gain a few more converts who have long despised large smartphones. Make no mistake -- it's still large, but it's much more manageable than most supersized handsets on the market, including the first two Notes.
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http://youtu.be/o4TpkOuneq0
the new Note has a 5.7-inch 1080p Super AMOLED panel, giving the user roughly 386 ppi to work with -- plenty more than the first two Notes, which both pulled in less than 300. It's noticeably brighter than its predecessor and offers great views from almost any angle.
Measuring 151.2 x 79.2 x 8.3mm, the Note 3 is 1.3mm narrower than the second Note (3.8mm narrower than the first), as well as 1.1mm thinner and 0.1mm taller. It weighs 168 grams, 12g lighter than its father. We continue to marvel at Samsung's ability to make phones with larger displays and yet trim down their overall size. The panel on the Note 3 is just a little taller, not wider; the company trimmed down the bezels on top and bottom to allow more room for this. Fortunately, it's not so much taller that it makes for an awkward hold -- frankly, it's even more comfortable to hold than the Note II, and as a result it may gain a few more converts who have long despised large smartphones. Make no mistake -- it's still large, but it's much more manageable than most supersized handsets on the market, including the first two Notes.
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Sounds good but I think I'll keep my gs4, even though the specs are better than the gs4, but will probably get it for the wife since she has the n2. I guess for the people that wants something bigger than the 5.5, will probably get the Galaxy Mega (6.3). Op, if you haven't made a post on the Mega you should too...
I was really thinking of getting the Note 3, but then I saw all the vids on it and was left unimpressed. Will probably wait til the S5 to upgrade again. But you never know, I might see one in person and just decide I do want it.
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Nah. Keep in mind people. The galaxy s4 is a great phone. The note 3 is too, but you just got this phone at MOST 4 months ago.
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Please continue this conversation about this and other devices here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433835

[Q] Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 or Galaxy tab s ?

Iam confused on which tab to get ,since both are priced similar in the U.K , also this will be my first tablet . few questions i have is
1. Is the AMOLED display of tab s significantly better than that of Note 10.1.( iam impressed by the display of note 10.1 but hadnt used tab s)
2.does the extra 0.4 inch of tab s make any difference?
3.is S-pen really useful productivity tool.
4.Which one is overall a better tablet(VFM).
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Iam confused on which tab to get ,since both are priced similar in the U.K , also this will be my first tablet . few questions i have is
1. Is the AMOLED display of tab s significantly better than that of Note 10.1.( iam impressed by the display of note 10.1 but hadnt used tab s)
2.does the extra 0.4 inch of tab s make any difference?
3.is S-pen really useful productivity tool.
4.Which one is overall a better tablet(VFM).
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I had a note 10.1 2014 till it fell and the screen broke. I replaced it with the 10.5 tab s.
1. Yes, the amoled display is significantly better and nothing compares to it. Watching movies on the note annoyed me because if you weren't at the PERFECT angle, then parts of the image looked slightly washed out compared to the rest of the screen, if not viewing dead on you have the same annoying issue which is compounded by the back light being on on lcd's so the blacks are dark grey and they exhibit the same washed out look if not viewing the screen dead on. Amoled screens don't have either of those issues, even in extreme viewing angles the image on screen is the same as viewing dead on, and the deep blacks are awesome as the pixels are not lit and this alone would have made me upgrade even if my note wasn't destroyed.
2. The screen size difference is negligible and I don't notice a difference really.
3. The S Pen is a very good tool for those who use it. I have a note 3 and don't the s pen with it, but on the tablet I used to use it a lot for school. Note taking on the tablet with an app named Papyrus was very convenient and that is the only thing that I will miss dearly from the note tablet (I'll be so pissed if they announce a Note S before the end of the year)
4. Overall, for the price, I'd have to give it to the Tab s. It's slightly bigger, way better screen, thinner, lighter and has much better battery life. I'll check out getting a stylus later on when school resumes but for now, the Tab s wins.
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