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In few months my G3 warranty will end... My friend who lately send his G3 for repair under warranty got back new G4.
(Maybe they were out of some parts? Doesnt matter....)
Curently I'm thinking about to check, would I also get new G4 instead of repaired G3?
So... Is there any way to damage it without leaving any hints for repair man?
This is fraud. If you want a G4, buy one. If you can't afford one buy something else or keep using your G3.
luksus007 said:
This question will be controversy...
In few months my G3 warranty will end... My friend who lately send his G3 for repair under warranty got back new G4.
(Maybe they were out of some parts? Doesnt matter....)
Curently I'm thinking about to check, would I also get new G4 instead of repaired G3?
So... Is there any way to damage it without leaving any hints for repair man?
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You could try a few second in the microwave (but not too much)
Edit: BUT REMOVE THE BATTERY
luksus007 said:
This question will be controversy...
In few months my G3 warranty will end... My friend who lately send his G3 for repair under warranty got back new G4.
(Maybe they were out of some parts? Doesnt matter....)
Curently I'm thinking about to check, would I also get new G4 instead of repaired G3?
So... Is there any way to damage it without leaving any hints for repair man?
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change your way of thinking dude, or you'll end up brutally " damaged " in jail.
Indeed. There is no comparable warranty on your rectum. Your friend was lucky. In addition, he wasn't actively intending to commit fraud. This grinds my gears...
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To be honest I really like my G3 Only thing which bother me is overheating.
I will make hardware thermal mod but after warranty end Thought maybe there is a chance to solve it other ways.
Read that G4 CPU better manage thermal problems.
luksus007 said:
This question will be controversy...
In few months my G3 warranty will end... My friend who lately send his G3 for repair under warranty got back new G4.
(Maybe they were out of some parts? Doesnt matter....)
Curently I'm thinking about to check, would I also get new G4 instead of repaired G3?
So... Is there any way to damage it without leaving any hints for repair man?
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People like you are the reason the majority have to pay more for things such as insurance or extended warranties.
Don't like the phone? Sell it and save up fro something else.
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hi everyone,
with the number of occurrences of the lg g4 bootloop, i become paranoid that one day my g4 will experience it.
is there a way to deliberately damage my g4 software so i can claim before the warranty run out?
Flash wrong KDZ?
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have not thought that, if my phone die because root can i still claim warranty?
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have not thought that, if my phone die because root can i still claim warranty?
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Nope.
Guys like you are the reason why manufacturers are doing the bootloader locking or using qfuse.
my g4 with sn 505 is known very risky to bootloop , I just do not want my phone to be exposed to bootloop before warranty period end.
I have 506 and I'm in the same boat like you but damaging it on purpose to claim warranty is wrong.
If it happens after warranty time the only thing you could do is ask LG to repair it because it's a known problem.
If it happens to me I will try to fix it myself bybacking the motherboard in the oven (no joke!!!).
It doesn't matter if it works or not LG will be on my list of manufacturers I will never again buy from.
So far on this list is Samsung, Sony, and probably LG.
The bootloop issue is due to hardware, not software. I believe any issues caused by software is not under warranty.
And what would damaging the software help anyway? They will just reflash the correct firmware and done. Maybe they will exchange it, but I highly doubt it.
My g4 came with 2 year warranty and I had it for 6 months, no trouble whatsoever, in fact I love it. If the boot loop issue occurs within the next 18 months then warranty deals with that. If not then I will be upgrading to a newer phone anyway, so really no need to worry it's a win win situation me thinks
Hello
I want to buy LG G4, but buy new or refurbished to avoid bootloop ?
moshxsoft said:
Hello
I want to buy LG G4, but buy new or refurbished to avoid bootloop ?
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From what it seems no g4 is safe. From what ive read even the g5s are suffering from this bootloop to. Several people said that ic power managment is the problem and mother board replacement are the fix. Now i dont know how far all of this goes as i have a suposed safe model and only have had 4 months.
But from a longtime lg user id got with another manafaturer. Such as a nexus.
TheMadScientist420 said:
From what it seems no g4 is safe. From what ive read even the g5s are suffering from this bootloop to. Several people said that ic power managment is the problem and mother board replacement are the fix. Now i dont know how far all of this goes as i have a suposed safe model and only have had 4 months.
But from a longtime lg user id got with another manafaturer. Such as a nexus.
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is this mean refurbished one will be safe?
moshxsoft said:
is this mean refurbished one will be safe?
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Suposedly they are. But. Many claims that even the refurbs. Claims that the one that lg repairs. Bassicly. Rumors are no g4 is safe.
Your best bet is to buy a refurbished one which already had a motherboard replaced...just ask the seller whether it is repaired
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Hey guys check this video below even V10 H961N model is beginning to have a bootloop issue like the G4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POr1M3C5ijc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT4gTWn4gpM
LG are digging their own graves if this keeps happening no more LG
so what you guys think ?should u buy the V10 or not ?
This thread is only intended as awareness to buy new LG phones rest is your choice
Let me put it this way, Its also like this with the G5. Thankfully there were less reports of it with the V10 and G5, but it is still out there.
buying the v10 is up to the person, if he really wants the phone, and has a way of getting it with a warranty, he should go for it.
Hopefully LG's next line of phones (V10 successor and maybe G6) won't have this issue.
But you can never know with LG.
Unless they actually fix this with next flagships, the G4 will probably be my last LG phone.
Its only begining to start in the V10... G4 that i also sold also had bootloop well atleast i was saved his loss i just hate LG for doing these things i feel sorry for him n feel bad for myself but it aint my fault its LG
im planning to buy a bootloop issue v10 for 70 dollars.do you think i could still make it work?can someone send me a link to fix it
Sad Burrito said:
im planning to buy a bootloop issue v10 for 70 dollars.do you think i could still make it work?can someone send me a link to fix it
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only way to fix is to replace yourself with new motheoard. or if it has warranty send it to LG..
raptorddd said:
only way to fix is to replace yourself with new motheoard. or if it has warranty send it to LG..
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is replacing motherboard only the way...i already sent it to lg because it still have service warranty.but still worried they wont consider it that its phones fault because when i took it to lg the charging port is not working anymore
Sad Burrito said:
is replacing motherboard only the way...i already sent it to lg because it still have service warranty.but still worried they wont consider it that its phones fault because when i took it to lg the charging port is not working anymore
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yes thats the only way or unless you flash mooded tot for h815 but not sure if its remporary or permanent when you disable the 2 big cores. theres no TOT for american variants.
Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks
It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.
Riardon said:
It may Bootloop it may not. There is no definite answer. You may have problems with a non EU model in the EU. They may fix it or may not. You have to ask an LG service centre about this.
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Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?
rmantech said:
Thanks but is the 509 model known to update?
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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.
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If you ask if 509 is prone to Bootloop issue I think it is. Most bootloops happened on 505 though but the general consensus is the newer G4 you have the less chances for bootloop. Again there is no definite answer. We do not know the dirty details. We don't know which S/N is safe and if LG fixed the problem and from which S/N and after they did. We purely rely on public reports to draw conclusions. Up until now 6xx seems safe with only 1 or 2 ppl reported a bootloop on Reddit. Just make a backup and keep your data on the SD card. If you get a bootloop contact LG. They seem to be aware of the issue and fixing all broken phones even out of warranty some times.
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Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?
rmantech said:
Thanks so much for the response!!! So do you recommend I return the phone as there is a risk of boot loop and the phone is from Taiwan so they may not fix it?
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yes theres a high chance it may bootloop.. and no UK wont repair your phone.. you must shipped to the country you got it from .. i say return. and get a phone with 6xx serial number.. there less reports with those serial numbers..
maybe @jinderation can chime in... hear hes story.
rmantech said:
Hi, just bought a second hand g4 with serial number starting 509 will the phone possibly bootloop? Also the phone is the Taiwan model and I currently live in the UK, will having the Taiwan model cause any problems? Thanks
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I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration
And phones with serial 508?
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And phones with serial 508?
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supposely up until 510 were fixed.. yet ive seen 510 to one 604.
jinderation said:
I had taiwan h815 yes it did bootloop eventually there are reported 509s in bootloop also if u bought it used u wont have warranty from uk only taiwan that is if u have the original receipt n the warranty card in the box n u must have a friend in taiwan too who can go to lg center n have it replaced n i tried email n phone they didnt help me ... If ur going to use it longer period like a year forget it lots of frustration
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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.
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I'm in the UK and have the same problem - a bootlooping TWN H815. It was purchased used last year, so no receipt or warranty card. I was wondering whether you had explored paying LG for an out-of-warranty repair? At this stage I'm looking at the best way of cutting my losses.
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In US cost of repairs alone is 200US$ cuz of morherboard replacement either that or which u can get a used g4 at the same price so even if ur bootloops there is no point of fixing it....all i can say for u is to wait for atleast an year after the bootloop so the prices fall down for repairs....there is no way u can send it to taiwan also there is no warranty n recepit thats only even if u have a friend there...
Avoiding heat
Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others
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Hi all am in same boat. Got a EU H815 an 506 hw1.0 and until a week ago had never heard about bootloop issue. I've had unlocked bootloader, rooted with custom ROMs nearly whole ownership and as a result have never had any heat up issues. After reading 100s of pages of the issue my conclusion is that it seems to be heat that affects a soldered component which eventually fails. So based on this theory I'm using Kernel Adiutor to control the throttling when CPU temp gets >55degc. It is only an educated guess but does seem logical. Hope it helps others
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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.
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Ive been saying its a heat issue aince day 1 and no one would listen to me.
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Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:
Meakii said:
Definitely the cause. I did always notice with stock ROMs Genisys etc my phone got hotter than CM and logically it makes sense so I'm sticking with it :fingers-crossed:
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Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........
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Seems like the issue calmed down over the winter in the northern hemisphere. And now that the summer is in full bloom people are looping like crazy. Im hoping between being almost as far north as one gets in usa. So like 85 far. Is blazing here. Plus me doing the thermal mod im keeping my device cool enough to make it as i have no waranty so a mb replacement costs me about 200 dollars american.
I have a s6 and a couple other mid range devices. I wont hesitate to toss my g4 in the trash. I got mine on a trade in from my g3 i only paid like 150 for my g4 so nope not me. Unless i get one cheap.
If this was an automobile this would be a recall i dont understand why these devices arent recalled.
I saw a news cast talking about how they make devices so cheap and breakable "for the economy" why would u buy the newest devices out if your old ones are running quite perfectly they say. So this is for economic reasoning. So go ahead lg keep making s****y devices i will buy a new one but not from you.
Yea i want a g5 but i wont give more that 100 bucks for it in the fear of failure.
Like i said keep it up lg seal your economic fate........
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They are always better options than LG out there...the credibility rate for lg is always has been the worst thats why there used phones are sold dirt cheap everywhere
Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone
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Hi, my G4 had bootloop recently, motherboard was changed under the warranty. New motherboard was made in 04/2018. Is it known if newer motherboards still have a bootloop issues?
I cannot found any relevant informations. Maybe because nobody already have this old phone
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they are all bad as far as i know. And yes, nobody has this phone as its later revisions bootlooped after warranty and its more expensive to repair this piece of crap than what it is worth even after repairing.
I have my bootlooped G4 in a drawer since 1 year ago.
I have a phone that's never bootlooped
so I guess this happens too much but I got the bootloop 1 year after I bought it, warranty expired.
called lg and they say it'll cost me about 100$ to replace the mainboard.
I don't mind paying the 100$ for it IF I can stop it from happening again
they say they'll warrant the new motherboard for only 3 month
so I was wondering is there anything I can do to stop the new motherboard to bootloop again? I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3dQdS1b0aw and he says a copper heatsink adhesive will stop the issue from happening again and I was wondering if this would actually fix it or not and is there a way I can underclock the cpu to stop it from overheating again? something like a kernal editor that can fix the cpu frequencies at lower rates? anything to make me have the guts to buy the new motherboard?
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so I guess this happens too much but I got the bootloop 1 year after I bought it, warranty expired.
called lg and they say it'll cost me about 100$ to replace the mainboard.
I don't mind paying the 100$ for it IF I can stop it from happening again
they say they'll warrant the new motherboard for only 3 month
so I was wondering is there anything I can do to stop the new motherboard to bootloop again? I saw this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3dQdS1b0aw and he says a copper heatsink adhesive will stop the issue from happening again and I was wondering if this would actually fix it or not and is there a way I can underclock the cpu to stop it from overheating again? something like a kernal editor that can fix the cpu frequencies at lower rates? anything to make me have the guts to buy the new motherboard?
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lgis offering longer than 1 year on it waranty wize id set up a diffrent one this is a known issue no way to prevent lg basicly has to waranty it unless u unlocked the bootloader or its physicly damaged
TheMadScientist420 said:
lgis offering longer than 1 year on it waranty wize id set up a diffrent one this is a known issue no way to prevent lg basicly has to waranty it unless u unlocked the bootloader or its physicly damaged
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That doesn't apply in my country i asked the official lg store and they said the motherboard costs about 100$ including replacement
Do you know if there's any way i can prevent this from happening again?
mshtob said:
That doesn't apply in my country i asked the official lg store and they said the motherboard costs about 100$ including replacement
Do you know if there's any way i can prevent this from happening again?
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Notnwithout voiding waranty
TheMadScientist420 said:
Notnwithout voiding waranty
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Fine I don't have Warranty anyway
mshtob said:
Fine I don't have Warranty anyway
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Thermal paste mods on the mb. Prosccessors. Disable all non essential app root or not. Do not use while charging. Are the best ways to avoid again nothing can prevent. But the thermal mods either paste or pads. Work well
TheMadScientist420 said:
Thermal paste mods on the mb. Prosccessors. Disable all non essential app root or not. Do not use while charging. Are the best ways to avoid again nothing can prevent. But the thermal mods either paste or pads. Work well
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Could you point me to any tutorials for this please?
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Could you point me to any tutorials for this please?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-g4/general/disassemble4-g4-testin-harware-cooling-t3327640
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Thank you very much