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This is my 3rd Nexus and this time, I'm going to try to keep this as close to Google's vision as possible. So if I'm not going to use a custom ROM, do you see any other reason to bother unlocking the phone and rooting it?
freicook said:
This is my 3rd Nexus and this time, I'm going to try to keep this as close to Google's vision as possible. So if I'm not going to use a custom ROM, do you see any other reason to bother unlocking the phone and rooting it?
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If you dont want to alter the stock rom in any way or flash custom roms or kernels then there is no need to unlock the bootloader.
If you dont want to perform any actions that need root permission i.e. adfree to block popup ads in apps, permissions to disable certain apps permissions, setcpu to adjust profiles or titaniumbackup to make backups of your installed apps and settings then you really dont need to root your phone.
If you want to do any of those things then yes its worth it. Unlocking the bootloader and rooting your phone wont harm anything and wont affect your stock rom but they WILL give you more options in the future if you change your mind. If you get all your phone set up and then decide you want to unlock the bootloader then the process will wipe your phone and you will lose everything you have installed so its better to do it now than later
Mark.
Firstly, how in hell did you manage to already get through two Gnex's? Secondly, yes, unlocking the boot loader and rooting is still useful even if you don't want to put a custom ROM on it. You can use root tools and uninstall system apps, change the dpi, install new kernels and over clock/underclock etc etc
If you unlock the bootloader you can always manually download OTA updates from Google's server and apply them yourself instead of waiting for the update to arrive.
Sorry, I meant this is my 3rd Nexus phone. Nexus One, Nexus S, and now Galaxy Nexus.
Thank you for your replies. I think I'll just unlock it...because, why not?
the only reason i can think of is to have the carrier ic spyware removed, it's been pretty big lately.
kms108 said:
the only reason i can think of is to have the carrier ic spyware removed, it's been pretty big lately.
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and its also been said that carrierIQ isnt on nexus phones FWIW
Is there a way to UNroot and LOCK the phone in case of warranty?
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Is there a way to UNroot and LOCK the phone in case of warranty?
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Yes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366806
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and its also been said that carrierIQ isnt on nexus phones FWIW
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where did it say that.
kms
The CarrierIQ thing is supposedly something that carriers put on themselves, not Google. If that's the case, the Nexus line of phones in the past wasn't attributed to any carriers. Looks like Verizon might actually be branding theirs, since rumors are their name will now be on the backplate.
And of course, since we're in a developer forum, it's only appropriate to echo Cyanogen and his saying that they never have and never will include the CarrierIQ statistics on their ROMs.
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where did it say that.
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Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1372643&highlight=spy
but I don't know if it's true. I have just found out what carrierIQ is.
I'm not going against anyone from this forum, as i could be wrong, but i still dont believe all the BS that the companies says about not having the ciq in it's phone, also this links do say nexus phone, but does not state which one, and to my recall, the latest version galaxy nexus, the rom although vanilla google, the rom has been developed with samsung, google did not 100% made the rom, and the latest update through OTA was produced by samsung.
but you can correct me if you do think i'm wrong, as many member in this forum do have many years experiences in programming and development of roms.
I don't believe that any of the "true" Nexus devices have had this on it...otherwise myself and many others likely would have found it much earlier and we would not be wondering this now. With that being said I wouldn't count out the Nexus S(Sprint version) and the Galaxy Nexus(Verizon version) from the list of carrier IQ devices. Only time will tell as I'm not planning on ever owning either of those devices.
Justin
There was a Statement issued by Verizon That none of their phones Used Carrier IQ.. Something We Don't need to worry about on the SGN... Anyways Google handles Updates...
There's no debate: CIQ is NOT on this or any Nexus phone. AOSP is open source. It would be plainly obvious in the source code.
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I wanted to just add a comment to a thread somewhere expressing a valid point in regards to s-off.....but it should almost be said in all of them so here it is.
A lot of people have growing concerns regarding s-off ever being re-accomplished with the new hboot versions (1.54 etc). People say that when the VZW S4 can't even get unlocked, how do we expect this to ever happen for HTC? An extremely large oversight that people are missing here is that yes, the VZW S4 community is very large. And with regards to unlocking the bootloader, you could also include the AT&T crowd into the mix as its kinda a dual deal. But these are the only two carrier devices being effected by the bootloader issue. Both carriers xda communities combined. However, when it comes to s-off for our device, you're not just involving VZW users. Or just adding another carrier to the mix. You literally have EVERY HTC One around the globe effected by this circumstance. So not only do you have vzw devs working on it, but at&t, tmo, sprint, rogers, bell, etc etc etc etc etc.....all of am around the globe. There are FAR FAR FAR more people interested in this than there are people for other bootloaders for other devices. This is the advantage of owning a worldwide single-product release.
So yes, I say there is a significantly larger hope for s-off being achieved than most people give credit for.
EXAMPLE - look at how many devices were effected by moonshine/revone and tell me how many phones/carriers were obtainable through this....:good:
TechSavvy2 said:
I wanted to just add a comment to a thread somewhere expressing a valid point in regards to s-off.....but it should almost be said in all of them so here it is.
A lot of people have growing concerns regarding s-off ever being re-accomplished with the new hboot versions (1.54 etc). People say that when the VZW S4 can't even get unlocked, how do we expect this to ever happen for HTC? An extremely large oversight that people are missing here is that yes, the VZW S4 community is very large. And with regards to unlocking the bootloader, you could also include the AT&T crowd into the mix as its kinda a dual deal. But these are the only two carrier devices being effected by the bootloader issue. Both carriers xda communities combined. However, when it comes to s-off for our device, you're not just involving VZW users. Or just adding another carrier to the mix. You literally have EVERY HTC One around the globe effected by this circumstance. So not only do you have vzw devs working on it, but at&t, tmo, sprint, rogers, bell, etc etc etc etc etc.....all of am around the globe. There are FAR FAR FAR more people interested in this than there are people for other bootloaders for other devices. This is the advantage of owning a worldwide single-product release.
So yes, I say there is a significantly larger hope for s-off being achieved than most people give credit for.
EXAMPLE - look at how many devices were effected by moonshine/revone and tell me how many phones/carriers were obtainable through this....:good:
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Boy I hope you're right lol
Didn't really think about it this way, +1 for I hope you're right.
The problem is that when the bootloader isn't locked down, there's very little reason for people to really get S-OFF
S-off shouldn't be our concern. Unlocking the bootloader should be our main concern, along with root. In all honesty, s-off isn't even necessary and most people don't even know what it actually does. It could cause more harm than good.
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S-Off is fun though, I used to love being able to flash radios whenever I wanted on my Thunderbolt without an RUU. Flashing custom splash screens was fun too.
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All I want is the Google Edition rom, or as close as we can get to it.
If s-off isn't necessary for that, then I'm not concerned about s-off. I mean I hope it happens for the people who want it though
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josh995 said:
All I want is the Google Edition rom, or as close as we can get to it.
If s-off isn't necessary for that, then I'm not concerned about s-off. I mean I hope it happens for the people who want it though
Sent from my HTC One.
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You can install newts Google edition with an unlocked bootloader, s-off not necessary.
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do you need s-off for boot animations? I want that google play edition animation
crazyg0od33 said:
do you need s-off for boot animations? I want that google play edition animation
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Nope. Just root. Splash screens need s-off.
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S-OFF is nice if we can't get an unlocked bootloader through HTCDEV. At this point, I'll take what I can get. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the phone now that HTC shut off the unlocking option. There might be a step where we can:
1- get s-off
2- unlock bootloader / load custom recovery
3- disable s-off (s-on again)
squabbi has built a nice AIO toolkit and I suspect when something is found for our hboot (or another attack vector is found) the toolkit can be modified to include the verizon version. I think once we (verizon people) can change the CID, we will be able to unlock the bootloader and it will be a non-issue.
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S-OFF is nice if we can't get an unlocked bootloader through HTCDEV. At this point, I'll take what I can get. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the phone now that HTC shut off the unlocking option. There might be a step where we can:
1- get s-off
2- unlock bootloader
3- disable s-off (s-on again)
squabbi has built a nice AIO toolkit and I suspect when something is found for our hboot (or another attack vector is found) the toolkit can be modified to include the verizon version. I think once we (verizon people) can change the CID, we will be able to unlock the bootloader and it will be a non-issue.
Maj
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If we got s-off then the bootloader wouldn't even matter.
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If we got s-off then the bootloader wouldn't even matter.
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I updated my #2 to add flashing custom recovery.. I currently have my rezound s-off, but I never liked it being s-off. I always prefer being s-on for extra protection. (a phone condom if you will)
Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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MajikUF said:
I updated my #2 to add flashing custom recovery.. I currently have my rezound s-off, but I never liked it being s-off. I always prefer being s-on for extra protection. (a phone condom if you will)
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Yeah. I remember when I screwed up my rezound. Then I fixed it, put up a guide and got hated on lol
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shook187 said:
Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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This^ I tell everyone this. They think they need s-off when really they are just too lazy to flash a boot img.
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Yeah. I remember when I screwed up my rezound. Then I fixed it, put up a guide and got hated on lol
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This^ I tell everyone this. They think they need s-off when really they are just too lazy to flash a boot img.
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What about aroma kernels? It is not overrated. Sometimes a boot img cannot be extracted and like I said it makes aroma flashing impossible (maybe TWRP dumlock supports it not sure). Even so, its nice knowing the carrier can never lock my device or unroot it. And as of now, no one else can unlock their device. So no, S-off is not overrated. Just so everyone knows, s-off will not be achieved until the newest hboot is cracked. I am not sure if its possible but if it is, it will probably take a few months. Good luck to everyone working on it
S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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As much as I want s-off, these are definitely not the reasons why.... I'm contempt with what I'm doing to my warranty.
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Syn Ack said:
S-Off is kind of a big deal. You can remove that tampered flag when you unlock your boot loader. Hell you can unlock your phone without losing all your data and flagging that tampered line. Most people enjoy peace of mind of being able to relock the bootloader without tampered so the factory warranty and other securities are still available to them.
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But there is also a risk you could ruin your phone if you do something wrong. I enjoy s-off but people need to understand what they are truly doing to their phones before they do something they can't undo.
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shook187 said:
Take from a someone who owed a ONE from various carriers, S-off is overrated.
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Take it from someone whom also owned a HTC One that was s-off on other carriers.... you are completely wrong.
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No one wants to use this thread. Delete please.
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ShrekOpher said:
So as many of you know root has not been achieved for this phone yet. However I feel the more important goal is to unlock the boot loader.
If you have not been following the news about the future of root, once the Note 4 gets updated to Lollipop any root achieved on the device will be broken, most likely permanently, unless the boot loader is unlocked so the kernel can be modified. (http://androidcommunity.com/chainfire-details-root-issues-in-android-5-0-gives-quick-fix-20141020/)
SO those of you pledging money to get root access on this device might be wasting your money, at least in the long term.
Also many of you know that Samsung had teased that Lollipop for the Note 4 is coming soon. (http://phandroid.com/2014/10/22/galaxy-note-4-lillipop/)
So in order to preserve the root capabilities of this device the boot loader needs to be the focus. I agree to get there we will most likely need root first, but getting root only is a short term goal.
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Why'd you copy and paste this from your other thread?
pr0cl1v1ty said:
Why'd you copy and paste this from your other thread?
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Agreed.
I pledge $50 to unlock the bootloader.
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New information coming out about KNOX
So KNOX is not as strong of a fort as most people think.
http://mobilesecurityares.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-samsung-knox-isnt-really-fort-knox.html?m=1
I read through the article and can't help but wonder what it means for us in terms of unlocking the bootloader.
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It means that if we don't get the boot loader unlocked before AT$T pushes out Lollipop this phone will never have root again! At least that what it looks like to me.
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That's what I gathered and although I'm prepared for the possibility of no root, I do hope something can be figured out.
Do you think any of that knox analysis can be used to find an exploit?
stingrayAD said:
That's what I gathered and although I'm prepared for the possibility of no root, I do hope something can be figured out.
Do you think any of that knox analysis can be used to find an exploit?
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Yes I think so.
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So if people found this thread first they wouldn't have to go back and forth.
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Yes, very helpful. Switching from iPhone 6 and long term iOS user. Thanks
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Its a real shame manufacturers are doing this. Rooting and having control over YOUR phone is what android is about.... I don't even flash Roms anymore but as the owner of my device I expect root permissions to at least backup apps and other minor little perks. Might give the N4 a try but keep my s4 as a backup if I can't handle no root down the road... Real bummer this situation is.
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Its a real shame manufacturers are doing this. Rooting and having control over YOUR phone is what android is about.... I don't even flash Roms anymore but as the owner of my device I expect root permissions to at least backup apps and other minor little perks. Might give the N4 a try but keep my s4 as a backup if I can't handle no root down the road... Real bummer this situation is.
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It not really manufacturers like Samsung, but more like carriers like AT&T.
DJsCrIBbLe said:
Its a real shame manufacturers are doing this. Rooting and having control over YOUR phone is what android is about.... I don't even flash Roms anymore but as the owner of my device I expect root permissions to at least backup apps and other minor little perks. Might give the N4 a try but keep my s4 as a backup if I can't handle no root down the road... Real bummer this situation is.
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Samsung sell the phone boot loader unlocked, AT&T and Verizon lock it down and bloat it up.
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Sorry I meant carrier :/
Again I want to point out that if the note 4 gets root before at&t updates their note 4 to android 5.0 then you have a choice to make. Do you want to keep root and stay on android 4.4.4 or update to 5.0. With root you can freeze the at&t updater app so you don't have to worry about at&t trying to force you to update. This is why root at this time is much more important than unlocking bootloader. Most of the time root comes before bootloader unlock anyways because it's much less work. But again this is Dependant on getting root first. If we get no root before 5.0 then it won't matter because then we'll just be down to unlocking the bootloader.
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So i know AT&T and Verizon users are not able to root their devices at this point! Has it ever been like this for devices Like S4,S5,Note 3 etc?.... If so, did they take a long time to get rooted too?....
it seems AT&T and Verizon pay more to their software developers to make this harder for everyone!!!!....
in short; no.
bootloaders have started to be locked down more over time on att/vzn but nothing major till of late. the s5 is actually rooted already, so only the note 4 is left. if the note 4 never gets root it'll be the first major flagship to go rootless.
I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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greekunit690 said:
I remember the s4 was out for about 2 months before we got root by having a bootloader patch tricking it (loki) but shortly after it was updated over for the later of bootloader phones...now they use run safestrap and still can't get any non TouchWiz rom I was one of the lucky ones who froze the updater apps before they automatically pushed it
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I think you may be confusing root with unlocked bootloader. root was achieved before the phone even came out, the bootloader wasnt unlocked till a week or two after, but wasn't released so Verizon couldn't patch it yet. that way verizon ppl could have an unlocked bootloader on their phone as well.
root has ALWAYS been something we had.
I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..
what I dont get is why more manufacturers wont take a page out of HTC's (or was it Moto?) book and allow people to unlock the bootloader from a website. If you agree to void the warranty, why not allow people to do that...
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I dislike locked bootloaders, but can get over it, root is just so **** necessary for BASIC functionality..
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this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...
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this. i've been holding off on the note4 to see when root arrives. if root doesn't come out before nex6 release i'm going to have to jump ship...which is too bad...would lose functionality going that route but lack of root trumps all else...
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Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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Idk...I've rooted every phone I've had and for the first time I don't necessarily need it as of right now
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Same here. Of course I would prefer being able to root it, but I think I could deal with the scenario of that not happening ever, I really like this phone that much!
It's been great even without root, but there are just a couple things I'd like to change. For example I hate the emojis on here (prefer the standard hangouts emoji) and I could easily fix that with root. Other than that I can live with the phone as is. I do miss some Xposed modules though
The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...
Kyuta Syuko said:
The things I'm missing that require root:
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Being able to modify my DPI
Avast Anti-Theft
Pretty sure there's more but those are what I can think of off the top of my head...
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I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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ug deal breaker... for now...
yea im in the same boat as a lot of people who need root for Ti Backup so all my game saves and what not... kinda a bummer.... I guess ill have to wait a bit longer for the upgrade... or maybe pick up a S5 instead...
b3asty said:
I'd like to have those options as well but, like the others have stated, I like this phone so much that I could easily get used to not having root. I pledged and hope someone finds an exploit but I am loving this phone as is.
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Yeah I'm loving this phone, but if root is unachievable I might have to sell it and get a T-Mobile version...
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..
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The first units out up here have a locked bootloader. I would imagine the replacements do too. There was an engineering firmware from Sprint that you could flash to get root, but I'm not sure what happens after you're on it.. i.e. I don't think you can get off of it (at least easily), no recovery, no custom ROMs, etc..
There are a number of users who returned their W8 Note7 and bought a F or FD model, as the Exynos variant has an unlocked bootloader, recovery, root, etc..
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I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.
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I thought Canadian units always had an unlocked bootloader? In development options I see OEM Unlock.
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I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
Oh, OEM unlock is a feature added in lollipop. As far as I know it's a standard feature and doesn't reflect the actual ability to unlock the bootloader. Disabling it can remove the FRP lock though.. Yes, I do know you need to use that when flashing ROMs, I had a HTC 10, S7 Edge (W8 Exynos model), and many other Androids before, and I rooted every single one of them. This is the first device I haven't, which is why I'm on the fence..
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I wish. I also have a W8 Note7. So far I've decided to keep it, although it hasn't been exchanged yet (registered, but coral blue and waiting forever). I may sell it and get a F or FD variant once known good ones are easily available.. or may get something else.. who knows..
For reference, see THIS post for the steps about the engineering bootloader/firmware. Feel free to read through that thread, but from everything I've read the bootloader is truly locked on our devices.
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Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...
Anton2007 said:
Ah, that sucks. I've never had a rooting any other devices, my old Note 5 had root. Weird...
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Yeah, I hear ya. It's a first for Sammy in Canada, at least with a W8 variant..
Anton2007 said:
Hey all, does anyone have a link to a guide to root the Canadian Note 7 (SM-N930W8) - Snapdragon model.
The device should have a unlocked bootloader. Any help appreciated. Thank you
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Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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force70 said:
Unlocked bootloader? Dude....where have you been lol?
Ditch the snapdragon and go exynos as mentioned....only way to go with a note 7 if you want the usual root, twrp like the note 5.
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Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?
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Guess I've just assumed it was unlocked. Honestly this phone has been a pain in the ass since I got it, was hoping to fix some things up with root and don't really want to go through the hassle of getting an Exynos version. Where would I grab one from anyway?
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Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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force70 said:
Lots of guys got them via ebay, a few of us got them local at a store here in toronto.
Amazon would also be an option
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That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there
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That's not a bad idea. Do you think Bell will refund my replacement Note 7? Also, what store in Toronto, I'm fairly close to there
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Can't say about bell....
The store is swiftronics.
I would hold off on buying though until battery gate blows over...they dont have any new stock yet anyway. We are all waiting on them to replace our FD units with updated versions.
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Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?
imatts said:
Just use the Spring Userdebug root and you will be good to go. Instructions are pretty basic. I have the N930W8 as well. The advantage is that you dont void your warranty or trip knox, but then you are stuck on an unchangablr kernel and cannot flash roms/kernels until someone decides to include the system.img and old kernel in their roms, which would be a lost cause, since maybe 3 people have rooted their canadian note 7's xD
BTW, can anyone help me out with systemui? I flashed the modded systemui that includes rom control, and can no longer use samsungs interaction control, which I absolutely need. Please help me out with possibly a zip I can flash that resets systemui to stock?
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You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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force70 said:
You cannot use that on the new firmware for anyone who got the update.
The OP is on a replacement device so he def cannot use it.
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I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^
imatts said:
I used this on my original Note 7 as well as the replacement.
I got my replacement last friday, the phone was said to be manufactured Sep 6th, but I was definitely able to flash sprints userdebug on my new replacement..
I'm running it now, and its actually doing much better than the older device. Much much snappier and longer lasting.
Then again, you mentioned an update, and I usually avoid such things so I hadnt noticed any update. Could you ellaborate on that please? With some links if you can? ^.^
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You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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force70 said:
You must have got the device rooted before it updated....nice one!
The new firmware which gives the fixed devices the green battery icon and bad ones a big fat warning to turn the device in. And in some cases limits the charging to 60% tops.
I have all my update crap turned off so avoided it and some like you got lucky..others the damn phone updated immediately and others it came with the firmware.
You cannot odin the previous firmware either..its blocked. And there is no root for it even on unlocked bootloader devices like my dual sim exynos
Its all over the forums bro, easy to find more info but thats the overview of it.
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Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?
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Whaat thats absolute bull that Samsung would do this.
I'm super thankful I blocked the update services with Package Disabler right away then.. I didnt even intend to do it, but I figured I would just in case. I have to reflash the userdebug again though, theres no way it would auto update right?
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It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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force70 said:
It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue
force70 said:
It shouldn't especially now that your rooted, im not even rooted but have auto update off and also used package disabler and havent had a hint of an OTA thank god.
I dont like It either but under the circumstances i do understand why they would force an OTA like this.
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Just managed to reflash sprint userdebug and root again (on the replacement). I was sketching out hard during the setup, saying to myself over and over "oh my god please dont auto update".
Thanks for all your help! Sucks that the Note 7 is essentially dead now, considering only very little people will have a rooted note 7.
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How come unlocked bootloaders are not rootable?. . There is a dr ketan rom based on safe battery issue
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Lol.....just now there is....there was not up until when i went to bed last night. Looks like Dr Ketan found a way around it by not having to flash the new bootloader.
This is what our talented developers do...find ways sround samsung screwing us....god bless them :thumbup:
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