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is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
You need a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM).
bkeaver said:
is there away to install SuperSU when you have stock recovery? I'm thinking that we have to have either CWM/TWRP to install the zip. or am I having a brain fart on this.....
Thanks for whomever can clear my cobwebs..
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
uronfire said:
You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
e.g
Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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You can install it if you have the bootloader unlocked.
Use boot command instead of flash to boot into custom recovery and install su.
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Fastboot boot twrp.img
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Thanks this worked :good:
so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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so when I go into recovery now I get a image of a htc one with a red triangle and exclamation mark inside of it?? since I have never went into recovery on this phone before isn't it supposed to look like any other stock recovery??? and if this isn't right I have tried flashing the recovery already and still get the same result... can someone expand on this for me pls
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You have stock recovery.
BenPope said:
You have stock recovery.
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so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
bkeaver said:
so it doesn't give you flash update and wipe and all that anymore.. sorry like I said I have never went into recovery on this phone.. just making sure...
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I think you have to hold volume up and hit power or something.
ok I am good.. thank you... I'm putting everything back to stock because someone bought my phone and I just want to make sure everything is correct on it now.. thanks!!
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
and btw thanks everyone for the help. I hit my thanks button but on my browser it it isn't showing it just to let you know....
bkeaver said:
i sold the phone and this is what they requested. I know the OTA wont work and I never keep stock recoveries on my phones but.... I guess they will find out for themselves
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Sounds like somebody that is a bit ill-informed. They want root, but they probably also want OTA (the 2 don't go together, IMO) and heard that you need stock recovery for OTA. I suppose they can change everything back that they modified with root, and unroot or hide root to install the OTA. But it just seems they are making life more complicated than it needs to be.
Also sounds like its a person that wants root, but not willing to do it themselves. But I suppose that's not really your problem!
Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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Option to root and have ota is very easy :
Stock rom (unmodified but rooted)
Stock recovery
And you can ota. The ota will probably delete superuser but that's about it. The ota will not fail because its rooted as long as the stock rom/apps are unmodified
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yeah this is what I did for them so who knows.. I've never tried it that way but i guess it would work like that
redpoint73 said:
Yes, this.
However, why bother keeping stock recovery at all? Stock recovery is effectively neutered once rooted, as you can no longer install an OTA.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Rooting doesn't affect ota's, at least not in my experience.
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Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
redpoint73 said:
Only if absolutely nothing was changed with the stock ROM.
Its more my point there is little point to installing OTAs on a rooted device.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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I don't understand that statement. I still run stock sense, but with a few additions that don't affect ota's. So I still get updates while having things configured the way I want. I can also run things that require root such as titanium backup and a few others.
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Because once you accept an OTA, you will be unrooted. You will have to root again, either by installing custom recovery (than back to stock recovery so you can OTA) or the trick of booting custom recovery via adb to flash SU (as described here). Its just a lot of jumping through hoops with little added value.
On the other hand, if you have custom recovery installed, you can flash any of the array of stock rooted or awesome custom ROMs posted here. This includes stock rooted ROMs taken from OTA updates from lots of versions (often posted within days of the OTA starting to roll out), not just your carrier, so you can possibly get an update much faster than waiting for the OTA to roll out from your carrier (although that depends on what carrier version you have). You also don't have to constantly be worried "well, if I change this I won't get OTAs". You can do whatever the heck you want, and isn't that really the whole point of root?
Its just my opinion. And a lot of this may stem from the fact that I'm on AT&T, who are not only agonizingly slow about rolling out OTAs (sometimes 3-4 months or even later than other carriers on my past HTC device) and have even went to the effort to close exploits and prevent unlocking of bootloaders when rolling out new OTAs (on the One X EVITA). In fact there was even a bug (I assume it was a bug - others may accuse that it was intentional) where installing the Jellybean OTA with SuperCID and S-on bricked the phone.
As I said, its just an opinion. But there are many others on XDA that will agree that OTAs have no place on rooted Android devices.
And to be fair, I did cover myself and stated "there is little point" instead of "there is no point"
I have flashed twrp recovery over odin. I can only get into stock recovery though. Usual fix would be to remove battery b4 rebooting, but I can not make out the battery on this device - seems integrated / hidden.
I am running 4.4.2 KitKat. Trying to root it to debloat.
Any ideas? Maybe remove some startup scripts or Idk...
EDIT: I got word that it seems to be either some hash verification in the new android 4.4.x kernel or even a locked bootloader on top. Is that correct? And, if so, what would be a good course of action now?
More info can be found imo when googling for
Android 4.4 KitKat: Google Making Root Without Unlocked Bootloader Difficult?
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(sry can't link)
JoeRifle said:
I have flashed twrp recovery over odin. I can only get into stock recovery though. Usual fix would be to remove battery b4 rebooting, but I can not make out the battery on this device - seems integrated / hidden.
I am running 4.4.2 KitKat. Trying to root it to debloat.
Any ideas? Maybe remove some startup scripts or Idk...
EDIT: I got word that it seems to be either some hash verification in the new android 4.4.x kernel or even a locked bootloader on top. Is that correct? And, if so, what would be a good course of action now?
More info can be found imo when googling for (sry can't link)
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I don't know of any tablet that has user removable battery. I'm sure you have to be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. Are you using the rooting method in the development topic?
The question would be why you didn't use the recommended way of using Flashify to flash twrp?
Eddie Hicks said:
I don't know of any tablet that has user removable battery. I'm sure you have to be rooted before you can install a custom recovery. Are you using the rooting method in the development topic?
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Yes. Would have posted there too had it been allowed. It is the method described in the t800 thread, where it says you should flash twrp via odin and then install SuperUser zip in TWRP.
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The question would be why you didn't use the recommended way of using Flashify to flash twrp?
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I thought that this was the way to do it. I have not read anything in that thread about flashify.
If flashify works with Android 4.4.2 I will dig into that. Does it?
JoeRifle said:
Yes. Would have posted there too had it been allowed. It is the method described in the t800 thread, where it says you should flash twrp via odin and then install SuperUser zip in TWRP.
I thought that this was the way to do it. I have not read anything in that thread about flashify.
If flashify works with Android 4.4.2 I will dig into that. Does it?
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You did not follow the instructions in the first post, but the latter ones posted by bodivas? Then you should consider trying those in the first post - they work for T805 as well.
The ones in the first post work. Flashify I found it in the CF-Root for T700 thread, it works fine on T805 as well, as long as you get the correct img file from the TWRP site.
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You did not follow the instructions in the first post, but the latter ones posted by bodivas? Then you should consider trying those in the first post - they work for T805 as well.
The ones in the first post work. Flashify I found it in the CF-Root for T700 thread, it works fine on T805 as well, as long as you get the correct img file from the TWRP site.
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yes bodivas is his name. it seemed to be the better method. but since it did not "accept" the image, although odin said success, I dug deeper and found out that there is supposed to be a hash check in 4.4.2 which keeps me from keeping the flashed image
Will flashify solve that problem and make TWRP "resident"? I would rather not flash the CF Auto since it is for a t800 not t805, but maybe i am overcautious:angel:
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yes bodivas is his name. it seemed to be the better method. but since it did not "accept" the image, although odin said success, I dug deeper and found out that there is supposed to be a hash check in 4.4.2 which keeps me from keeping the flashed image
Will flashify solve that problem and make TWRP "resident"? I would rather not flash the CF Auto since it is for a t800 not t805, but maybe i am overcautious:angel:
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You don't get by in XDA by being cautious in everything. There's enough reports to tell otherwise.
Yes, using Flashify to flash TWRP replaces stock recovery. TOTALLY.
Requires root though right? So is not possible for me I fear Only way would then be CF Auto for t800...as we found out. TU anyhow.
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Requires root though right? So is not possible for me I fear Only way would then be CF Auto for t800...as we found out. TU anyhow.
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Of course it requires root. Not possible because you don't dare to flash the T800 files? Hehe.....you're gonna have a hard time here.
kenkiller said:
Of course it requires root. Not possible because you don't dare to flash the T800 files? Hehe.....you're gonna have a hard time here.
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I just need to get the hang of these appy lil spy thingy thing things...god knows what g**gle has in store for you. out of curiosity, so you are saying there is no hash check in the bootloader keeping me/us from doing our evil deeds? how about the article up there I quoted, and what the heck happened when i odined TWRP?
just asking...will flash the CF. so lets cross thumbs and make tha knox trip count
Hi Guys. As following the instructions to flash openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.1-chagallwifi.tar using Odin3 v3.09, my T805 reboots into recovery, the TWRP boot screen is blurred, and after the Menu appears, my device locks up and there is no way to reboot it. Force reboot by holding down the Power button doesn't work. I've been trying for nearly an hour and nothing works. The Task Menu and Return buttons are lit, but the screen is blank. Any suggestions on how to get my T805 to reboot normally?
Thanks.
UPDATE:
I found that 2.8.0.1 appears out of alignment on the screen, and I had to poke around until I found where the Reboot button was located. By chance I got it to go into Bootloader and the system rebooted. Once online I installed Flashify and installed TWRP 2.7.1.1 and SUCCESS!! Now my T805 is working normally. WHEW!!
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
redpoint73 said:
Depending on what build you are on (newer ones can't go it), you may be able to fastboot boot recovery instead of flashing recovery. Once booted into recovery, you can flash SU or SuperSU.
You need to be bootloader unlocked either way. So I actually don't see a point in doing what you ask. Once you root, you can always install stock recovery again.
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ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
pnr2020 said:
ok thanks i get phone tomorrow so will give it a go i used to have s5 which was easy to root this sounds complicated
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Every device and manufacturer has its own subtle differences and learning curve. Its really not what hard, just read up and make sure you understand before messing around with it.
pnr2020 said:
was wondering can i just root my m8 without flashing recovery all i want is to install adaway to block ads thats if someone could please advise
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Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
Rantrave07 said:
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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yeah one can always flash the stock recovery after rooting.
redpoint73 said:
That is not exactly what I said. If the phone is 4.4.3 or 4.4.2, OP should be able to fastboot boot recovery without flashing it. Then flash SU/SuperSU. I've seen others do it this way, although I personally don't see much point to it.
But yes, bootloader still needs to be unlocked.
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Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
Using the dd command to make a "copy" of the recovery works if you're rooted and to be rooted you have to have custom recovery which doesn't help much since you lose stock recovery the moment you flash the custom one, but if you boot it and root then at least you can use the dd command if that is the way you want to make a "backup" of your stock recovery. Silly little circle to run around in
BerndM14 said:
Booting it instead of flashing it is better if you want to make a backup of stock recovery. Especially if it's Philz that you're booting since TWRP doesn't seem to make backups of the stock recovery anyways.
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Yes, I was aware of that; although it didn't seem to be the OP's goal. But thanks for pointing it out for their benefit.
thanks everyone for advice im sure i will get it right just one more quick question can you still upgrade with OTA when rooted or is it like other phones where you can not
Rantrave07 said:
Follow this guide for rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
but as redpoint73 said you have to unlock bootloader and install custom recovery.
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thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
pnr2020 said:
thank you for the guide that makes it sound straight forward
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:good: glad it helped
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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pnr2020 said:
spinninbsod said:
The m8 was a little complicated at first than my previous phone the nexus 5 but I figured out the m8 and I love it a lot more than my n5[/QUOE
At first i wasn't sure i liked it but im getting used to it. When lollypop comes out do i need to restore to stock or can i just OTA and root again
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To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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pnr2020 said:
To get updates you need a stock ROM unmodified, it can be rooted just do not mess with build.prop or platform.xml. However, to be able to install updates you need a stock recovery.
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thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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XSL-FO said:
thank you for info so if i stay on stock rom rooted i will have no trouble installing lollypop when released
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As long as you have a stock recovery it's all good. But even if you have a custom one, before doing the update install a custom recovery. Make the update, and after that if you want flash again a custom recovery.
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I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
Rooting will also mess up Ota too, but if u install a custom recovery, now that we have stock recovery it will be very easy to revert back for OTAs, there should be a way to root without a custom recovery but I am not sure how though, but with how oneplus makes it so easy to unlock bootloader and flash customers stuff there is really no need to stay stock
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
pileot said:
I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
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As far as I know, you'd have to have TWRP to get root.
I don't think getting it rooted will mess up the OTA updates, other users sprovide flashable zips for the OTA anyway.. so you can still flash the zips manually with TWRP to keep you updated.
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To get root yes, you would need TWRP to flash to certain partitions but to keep root no. Your phone will operate just fine with root and stock recovery. Check what the user a few posts above mine said about temporary flashing TWRP to achieve your short term goals
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You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
TheSvensson said:
So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
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Yes, I have the stock recovery and it is rooted.
The recovery partition has nothing to do with all the other partitions except that it can read and write them.
This is the zip I flashed to get systemless root:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424939898
Some users reported that some Root-apps are not supported this way.
I am using Titanium Backup, Adaway, Trimmer and Root Explorer without issues.
Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
All I did was manually flash OxygenOS 3.1.3 in TWRP (not flashed but booted) and reflash the root package afterwards.
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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I have an unlocked bootloader and tried this on my PC:
C:\adb>fastboot boot twrp.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.709s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.373s]
finished. total time: 1.092s
Nothing happens, bootloader start screen stays frozen. Until I hold down the power button. Might you know why?
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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i tried to boot into twrp recovery with above command, but the phone seems to be stuck in the bootloader and not responding. Any ideas?
edit: comment above describes exact same behaviour, sorry for double post
Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
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Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
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Thanks, that twrp img worked for me. The one I was using didnt allow me to boot to it.
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Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
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Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
hahamuntz said:
Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
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The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
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The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
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Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
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Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
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One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
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One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
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So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
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So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless, which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
I tried my previous method and the regular OTA would fail because of root which changes the kernel or the system partition.
OnePlus reacted to this and introduced the full rom OTAs at some point.
So with root on my device this is how I do OTAs now:
- get the OTA notification for the full rom
- download but don't install
- move the downloaded zip from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta to my download folder
- manually boot into twrp and flash full rom zip + SuperSU
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
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Okay, thanks so much for your help
Hello ,
I will have a ONE PLUS 5T.
I would like to root this one to have adblocker...
First question : How could root this?
Second question: If my phone is rooted, is it possible to have update OTA (or like samsung, impossible after)?
Thank you;
If you replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, like TWRP, OTAs will not work. However, if retain the stock recovery and simply boot TWRP in fastboot mode, you will be able to root your stock phone and receive OTAs. Just use the ADB command <fastboot boot twro_xxx.img> or simply flash back to a stock recovery image every time an OTA comes in.
jim262 said:
If you replace the stock recovery with a custom recovery, like TWRP, OTAs will not work. However, if retain the stock recovery and simply boot TWRP in fastboot mode, you will be able to root your stock phone and receive OTAs. Just use the ADB command <fastboot boot twro_xxx.img> or simply flash back to a stock recovery image every time an OTA comes in.
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it's chinese for me your answer... is there a tutorial for that?
ilan78 said:
it's chinese for me your answer... is there a tutorial for that?
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Guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592
You can't use OTAs after you root. You'll need to download the full update every time one is released and flash it in TWRP.
ilan78 said:
it's chinese for me your answer... is there a tutorial for that?
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If that is a major issue for you, use the TWRP recovery from blu_spark, otherwise, simply go into your TWRP settings and set the language to English or... Either way the language has nothing to do with functionality and it operates the basically the same.
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If that is a major issue for you, use the TWRP recovery from blu_spark, otherwise, simply go into your TWRP settings and set the language to English or... Either way the language has nothing to do with functionality and it operates the basically the same.
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Jim your answer wasn't Chinese to me and made perfect sense thank you. I have a doubt, if I just use "fastboot boot *TWRP*.IMG" and root and flash exposed too, will I be able to receive otas and update offically and redo boot TWRP and root and flash exposed again without problems?
santor said:
Jim your answer wasn't Chinese to me and made perfect sense thank you. I have a doubt, if I just use "fastboot boot *TWRP*.IMG" and root and flash exposed too, will I be able to receive otas and update offically and redo boot TWRP and root and flash exposed again without problems?
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No. You should NEVER take an OTA if you have root. You can dirty flash the full update zip in TWRP when they're released though.
shadeau said:
No. You should NEVER take an OTA if you have root. You can dirty flash the full update zip in TWRP when they're released though.
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If we root our device.can we install ota manually via twrp ??
If yes, then how??
Amanpreetsingh said:
If we root our device.can we install ota manually via twrp ??
If yes, then how??
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Let me clarify: OTA stands for Over-The-Air and implies that you're going to download the partial update from OnePlus and install it in stock recovery. Do NOT do this.
OnePlus usually publishes full zips of their updates when the OTA is released. Currently a mirror for them exists in the guides section. You can flash those (>1 GB) safely in TWRP to update OOS.
santor said:
Jim your answer wasn't Chinese to me and made perfect sense thank you. I have a doubt, if I just use "fastboot boot *TWRP*.IMG" and root and flash exposed too, will I be able to receive otas and update offically and redo boot TWRP and root and flash exposed again without problems?
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Here is the reality. YES. You can still receive OTAs with root, However, the OTA will break the root and you will need to reroot your device. Those who are saying no are wrong. It is very simple. To process an OTA, your phone needs stock recovery. TWRP will not process an OTA. So if you have stock recovery in your recovery partition and you reboot your phone into fastboot mode and from your PC, run the ADB command, <fastboot boot twrp_xxx.img>, you will boot up the TWRP image and will be able to run it as one normally would, but you will still have stock recovery loaded in the recovery partition.[QRCODE][/QRCODE]
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shadeau said:
No. You should NEVER take an OTA if you have root. You can dirty flash the full update zip in TWRP when they're released though.
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What's the difference? You still need to reroot.
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Here is the reality. YES. You can still receive OTAs with root, However, the OTA will break the root and you will need to reroot your device. Those who are saying no are wrong. It is very simple. To process an OTA, your phone needs stock recovery. TWRP will not process an OTA. So if you have stock recovery in your recovery partition and you reboot your phone into fastboot mode and from your PC, run the ADB command, <fastboot boot twrp_xxx.img>, you will boot up the TWRP image and will be able to run it as one normally would, but you will still have stock recovery loaded in the recovery partition.[QRCODE][/QRCODE]
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What's the difference? You still need to reroot.
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I apologize if I'm out of the loop. When I first read about OTAs with root I was on a Samsung device and everyone said that it would either brick the phone or upgrade the OS with no way to re-root the device. Looking through your answer it's obvious that that fear probably only applies to Samsung devices. Thanks for correcting me on this.
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Here is the reality. YES. You can still receive OTAs with root, However, the OTA will break the root and you will need to reroot your device. Those who are saying no are wrong. It is very simple. To process an OTA, your phone needs stock recovery. TWRP will not process an OTA. So if you have stock recovery in your recovery partition and you reboot your phone into fastboot mode and from your PC, run the ADB command, <fastboot boot twrp_xxx.img>, you will boot up the TWRP image and will be able to run it as one normally would, but you will still have stock recovery loaded in the recovery partition.[QRCODE][/QRCODE]
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What's the difference? You still need to reroot.
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Thanks Jim , I can confirm this works without problems on op5t. I had TWRP flashed and rooted with xposed installed.
I clean flashed the 4.7.1 stock ROM and got stock recovery and fresh os.
Just booted to TWRP using fastboot boot and rooted / installed xposed.
I got OTA updated to 4.7.2 and rerooted using fastboot boot TWRP and now rooted with xposed on stock ROM and stock recovery. ?
I have a question :
I would like to root without lost everything.
Is it possible? if yes , how?
ilan78 said:
I have a question :
I would like to root without lost everything.
Is it possible? if yes , how?
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Exactly like I said. Rooting, by itself, does not wipe your storage. The only time your storage is wiped is when you unlock your (bootloader) phone, when you manually choose to wipe storage in TWRP or when you do a factory reset. If you do not have an unlocked bootlader, you must make a backup of your files first, as once you unlock it does a factory reset. You can then run TWRP and restore your files. You are now rooted with your files and ability to take OTAs. There are plenty of tutorials here on XDA describing the process step by step. May I suggest you do a search first. You are very likely to get all the answers to these questions as they have been asked many, many times.
Thank you.
so my question is FOR ROOTING, i HAVE TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
And how Back up my data, my apps, all my settings without root or TWRP?
ilan78 said:
Thank you.
so my question is FOR ROOTING, i HAVE TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
And how Back up my data, my apps, all my settings without root or TWRP?
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Look through the Magisk forum. They have a method of rooting that doesn't require a custom recovery.
I use helium backup for my non-root app backup needs. Settings are trickier and I typically do them over every time. Super backup & restore is good for call logs, texts, and contacts.
ilan78 said:
Thank you.
so my question is FOR ROOTING, i HAVE TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
And how Back up my data, my apps, all my settings without root or TWRP?
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Did you read my post? The answers are all there. SEARCH! This question has been asked several times a day. You need to back up your data to another site, such as cloud, other device or PC. Then unlock bootloader, run TWRP and root file, then restore data. Tutorials are online. Now SEARCH!
ilan78 said:
Thank you.
so my question is FOR ROOTING, i HAVE TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
And how Back up my data, my apps, all my settings without root or TWRP?
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Man seriously! You got your answers and still you keep asking. Makes me wonder if you are just trolling
Non-trolling question - I am experienced when it comes to flashing/rooting. So if I want to stay with TWRP, I have to sacrifice OTA's, but it will be possible to flash the new updated zips and still keep my data via dirty flashing? Any negatives to doing this?
Tefzors said:
Non-trolling question - I am experienced when it comes to flashing/rooting. So if I want to stay with TWRP, I have to sacrifice OTA's, but it will be possible to flash the new updated zips and still keep my data via dirty flashing? Any negatives to doing this?
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Yes, as far as I know, if on stock OOS, you download the full zip (over 1GB in size), flash that in TWRP, and then flash root solution right after (before leaving TWRP) to prevent it being overwritten by the stock recovery.
I don't think dirty flashing has any downsides, but if you do end up running into issues, a clean flash usually solves them