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[Q] Galaxy Nexus (ENGINEERING) Model?

Hey Everyone... Originally when I got my GNEX, I could have sworn that when I tried to unlock/root it, it had been easier than a lot of the instructions, but I didn't think too much about it at the time. (I got it directly from a VZW wireless store) I think at this point, it was already unlocked. Now that I've changed phones, I wanted to prep this one for selling, and I was trying to follow instructions on how to reset/relock the phone, but it doesn't seem to let me lock it with the fastboot oem lock commands... but if this is an engineering build, should I even bother? Or can I sell it as is and just state factory unlocked?
Here is an image of my "About Phone" after flashing back the google images that I downloaded from here: https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/mysid-icl53f-factory-65895fa8.tgz
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Should this be ok to sell in this state? My plan was to ebay it, but I don't want to get in any trouble.

Not ur fault they sold you it. Profit on ebay
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aimetti said:
Not ur fault they sold you it. Profit on ebay
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Yep, I would list it as "Factory Unlocked", you aren't the one who screwed up

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Yep, I would list it as "Factory Unlocked", you aren't the one who screwed up
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Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask, but I tried -looking- for a factory unlocked CDMA version to judge it against, and can't even seem to find any, am I just missing something? Are people selling them somewhere else?

You won't find a "Factory Unlocked" model, AFAIK they don't make them. What you have is somewhat unique, although not that useful since it's a Nexus device. If you want more info on what exactly you have this thread has a decent overview if you read the first 2 pages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1461386 Bottom line, your fine to sell it as is.

To the right person you will get more just because it is an engineering model! If I were you I would bank on that!!

WiredPirate said:
To the right person you will get more just because it is an engineering model! If I were you I would bank on that!!
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I thought about that too when I first read the post. But, since this is a Nexus device to begin with, does that really get you anything?

I doubt it gets you anything but I want one lol. I'd pay maybe $20 more than a normal one but beyond that I'd get a stock. Someone may want it just to have it like me though.
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jdk82 said:
I thought about that too when I first read the post. But, since this is a Nexus device to begin with, does that really get you anything?
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Gahh Its Lee said:
I doubt it gets you anything but I want one lol. I'd pay maybe $20 more than a normal one but beyond that I'd get a stock. Someone may want it just to have it like me though.
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The one post answers the other lol. It gets you at least $20 more, and to the right person even more, depending on the person!

Good luck let us know if it sells for more.
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Gahh Its Lee said:
Good luck let us know if it sells for more.
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Will do. Kinda bummed about the selling prices in general, haven't been able to decide what to list it for. Gonna throw it up with no reserve and see what happens.

Put rare and what not in it.
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If its rare people will pay, just due to the fact that no one else can get it.
I personally am the type of person you want to sell this to. I buy tons of stuff for hundreds more just because I collect tech.
***Speaking of which, if anyone knows someone that owns an original 20gb PS3 I am looking to spend $400 or more depending on condition. Been looking for 3 years. Also looking for a copy of Super Metroid for SNES, I`ll pay $60 with out box, $100 in box***
Anyways yeah, if I didn`t already own a Galaxy Nexus and was not in the process of looking for a Galaxy S2 White (perferably from France to use here in Canada) I`d pay around $800 easy.

Adreno said:
If its rare people will pay, just due to the fact that no one else can get it.
I personally am the type of person you want to sell this to. I buy tons of stuff for hundreds more just because I collect tech.
***Speaking of which, if anyone knows someone that owns an original 20gb PS3 I am looking to spend $400 or more depending on condition. Been looking for 3 years. Also looking for a copy of Super Metroid for SNES, I`ll pay $60 with out box, $100 in box***
Anyways yeah, if I didn`t already own a Galaxy Nexus and was not in the process of looking for a Galaxy S2 White (perferably from France to use here in Canada) I`d pay around $800 easy.
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I hadn't thought of it from a collectors point of view, I was thinking purely in terms of a developer. fiyawerx, maybe you should at least look for an alternative market? Maybe Adreno knows some other collectors?

jdk82 said:
I hadn't thought of it from a collectors point of view, I was thinking purely in terms of a developer. fiyawerx, maybe you should at least look for an alternative market? Maybe Adreno knows some other collectors?
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No I don't sorry.
Only reason I threw out the $800 number is because, really its not that much more you'd pay buying a "normal" phone really.
I still remember paying something like $700 after tax for the Xperia x10 (ouch bad device) and another $700 for the Xperia Arc (Better device but still too much IMO)
$800 is not that big of a jump, and you are getting something truly unique.
***On a side note: I bought the Xperia x10 and my wife's first iphone, the white 3GS the same day...I think the total was like $1400. Imagine my surprise learning my brand new "latest tech" android didn't support multitouch....mmm still feel that burn! Oh well I guess 2 finger touch ended up being supported later, but by then I was on the Samsung Captivate. Loved the Captivate!***

Adreno said:
No I don't sorry.
Only reason I threw out the $800 number is because, really its not that much more you'd pay buying a "normal" phone really.
I still remember paying something like $700 after tax for the Xperia x10 (ouch bad device) and another $700 for the Xperia Arc (Better device but still too much IMO)
$800 is not that big of a jump, and you are getting something truly unique.
***On a side note: I bought the Xperia x10 and my wife's first iphone, the white 3GS the same day...I think the total was like $1400. Imagine my surprise learning my brand new "latest tech" android didn't support multitouch....mmm still feel that burn! Oh well I guess 2 finger touch ended up being supported later, but by then I was on the Samsung Captivate. Loved the Captivate!***
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And here I'd be thrilled if I got around 5 for it. Still haven't listed it, though. My wife will kill me if I don't soon.

What's the condition of the phone?
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What's the condition of the phone?
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Used daily for about 3 weeks daily, with a screen protector installed @ verizon when I bought it. Somehow it still managed to get a tiny line in it near the front camera in the upper right... you have to have the light hit it just right to see it, I tried getting it in the pictures here but could not. I took the screen protector off now to show how clean the real screen is, there's some dust on it though.
The pictures came out a bit too big that I'd want to post here, you can see them here:
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I still have the original box and books, but am not sure which usb cable or where the actual wall wart is right now that came with it.

Worst Experience Ever.

can someone please make me feel better about this?
i got into android phones early 2011, when i bought my dad an hd2. i sold my iphone 4 and bought myself a g2x (it was the top out specs wise). i actually liked it alot. it was powerful and everything was great. a year later, this past august, i sold my g2x first, then bought the one x. bought it for 400 off contract and it was a DEVELOPER PHONE. it shipped S OFF. anyway i flashed renovate 3.0 over leedroid 6.4.0 and not the boot.img yet and it was okay until i wiped data. it went in a bootloop and died and i didnt think much of it. it went into apx mode. apparently because the OS's reserve battery shutdown didnt take place. anyway, had to send it to htc and its been a MONTH. mind you im an android enthusiast. worst part now is that my dumbphone, the samsung highlight, seems to be doing everything except browsing. i mean i can txt and download videos on my computer then convert to work on the phone. maybe im just used to it because i also used it for a while after i got the one x (didnt have time to go to tmobile to get my sim cut). please make me feel better. worst of all im losing pics with my cousin that were on the one x. nothing else is lost. just that.
EDIT: and now theyre giving me an att one x. the dual core thing -_-

Awww, you poor thing. Have a hug.

swordsx48 said:
can someone please make me feel better about this?
i got into android phones early 2011, when i bought my dad an hd2. i sold my iphone 4 and bought myself a g2x (it was the top out specs wise). i actually liked it alot. it was powerful and everything was great. a year later, this past august, i upgraded, sold my g2x first, then bought the one x. bought it for 400 off contract and it was a DEVELOPER PHONE. it shipped S OFF. anyway i flashed renovate 3.0 over leedroid 6.4.0 and not the boot.img (kernel) and it was okay until i wiped date. it went in a bootloop and died and i didnt think much of it. anyway it went into apx mode. apparently because the OS's reserve battery shutdown didnt take place. anyway, had to send it to htc and its been a MONTH. mind you im an android enthusiast. worst part now is that my dumbphone, the samsung highlight, seems to be doing everything except browsing. i mean i can txt and download videos on my computer then convert to work on the phone. maybe im just used to it because i also used it during the time between me getting a micro sim for one x and me using my g2x. please make me feel better. worst of all im losing pics with my cousin that were on the one x. nothing else is lost. just that.
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swordsx48 said:
can someone please make me feel better about this?
i got into android phones early 2011, when i bought my dad an hd2. i sold my iphone 4 and bought myself a g2x (it was the top out specs wise). i actually liked it alot. it was powerful and everything was great. a year later, this past august, i upgraded, sold my g2x first, then bought the one x. bought it for 400 off contract and it was a DEVELOPER PHONE. it shipped S OFF. anyway i flashed renovate 3.0 over leedroid 6.4.0 and not the boot.img (kernel) and it was okay until i wiped date. it went in a bootloop and died and i didnt think much of it. anyway it went into apx mode. apparently because the OS's reserve battery shutdown didnt take place. anyway, had to send it to htc and its been a MONTH. mind you im an android enthusiast. worst part now is that my dumbphone, the samsung highlight, seems to be doing everything except browsing. i mean i can txt and download videos on my computer then convert to work on the phone. maybe im just used to it because i also used it during the time between me getting a micro sim for one x and me using my g2x. please make me feel better. worst of all im losing pics with my cousin that were on the one x. nothing else is lost. just that.
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Wow, that's the worst experience you've ever had? Hmm.
And if you had used the search here, or google, you could have fixed that in 10 minutes flat.
I guess htc will not return your device as they will consider it stolen if it was an S-OFF demo or dev phone. Compared to your previous worst ever experience that's really going to sting.

i think the worst thing ever is starting to be the XDA general section
who told you XDA is the place to come and cry? i dont get it, its a freaking developer website! not kinder garden

WTF? could not understand alot of that!!!! :silly:

Let's all be Nice and send some pics from our cousins to help him feel better about this horrible thing...
Oh wait, better send food to starving Kids...
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I guess the guy who said that on Samsung XDA people answer more pleasantly than on Htc XDA for people that's not so familiar with the forum or who don't know much about customising phone.
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Jobiza said:
I guess the guy who said that on Samsung XDA people answer more pleasantly than on Htc XDA for people that's not so familiar with the forum or who don't know much about customising phone.
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Those people don't know a lot about searching either lol (not the op in this case. I think he's in need of an agony aunt column or something )
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Jobiza said:
I guess the guy who said that on Samsung XDA people answer more pleasantly than on Htc XDA for people that's not so familiar with the forum or who don't know much about customising phone.
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Take a gander at the OP's posting history.
I think there are times when we (myself included) are hard on people. This isn't one of them.

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OP, is your phone even the Teg3 version? What you're describing as a "developers version" sound like a couple of early pre-release AT&T XL's that were sold on eBay. Regardless, I'd love to help you but couldn't figure out what it is you want or need in your original post.
hamdir said:
i think the worst thing ever is starting to be the XDA general section
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Ahmen.

Oh my... Sigh! This must be the most irrelevant topic I have come across n here... It's not even entertaining, well, the replies are
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swordsx48 said:
can someone please make me feel better about this?
i got into android phones early 2011, when i bought my dad an hd2. i sold my iphone 4 and bought myself a g2x (it was the top out specs wise). i actually liked it alot. it was powerful and everything was great. a year later, this past august, i upgraded, sold my g2x first, then bought the one x. bought it for 400 off contract and it was a DEVELOPER PHONE. it shipped S OFF. anyway i flashed renovate 3.0 over leedroid 6.4.0 and not the boot.img (kernel) and it was okay until i wiped date. it went in a bootloop and died and i didnt think much of it. anyway it went into apx mode. apparently because the OS's reserve battery shutdown didnt take place. anyway, had to send it to htc and its been a MONTH. mind you im an android enthusiast. worst part now is that my dumbphone, the samsung highlight, seems to be doing everything except browsing. i mean i can txt and download videos on my computer then convert to work on the phone. maybe im just used to it because i also used it during the time between me getting a micro sim for one x and me using my g2x. please make me feel better. worst of all im losing pics with my cousin that were on the one x. nothing else is lost. just that.
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Worst experience ever?
1. Read properly
2. Rom / kernel flashes need its booting flashing aswell.
3. Your pics should have been automatically backed up to drop box.
What's the problem?
Did you just not read properly? - then blame the phone?
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yes it was tegra 3.
i searched and posted for nearly a week but no one helped so i shipped it off.
because of the apples itc ruling i am now getting an att one x back.
i disabled pic to drop box backup because i dont have data and as soon as i would turn on wifi it would just be such a huge load i didnt bother. i backup my sd files biweekly anyway.

Does anyone have the LG G2?

I think I'm going to get the g2 on black Friday for 99 for me and my wife. It's between that and the s4. I wish the g2 had an SD slot but that's not really a deal breaker. What do you think is the better of the 2?
If you have one please let me know any bugs or issues it has that may make me change my mind.
Thank you all for your help!

I currently have the s4. I think I would go with the lg due to the software buttons and faster processor
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The G2 is the only Sprint device to have tri band LTE, if that helps
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The G2 is the only Sprint device to have tri band LTE, if that helps
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Step son and his GF just picked up one each 2 days ago. Nice devices.
They went to Best Buy, bought 2 disposable phones, Best Buy bought them back with 50$ gift cards for each one that they turned around and applied to the purchase. Pretty good deal imo.
:edit: I should have said, bought 2, 10 dollar disposables.

MoHoGalore said:
Step son and his GF just picked up one each 2 days ago. Nice devices.
They went to Best Buy, bought 2 disposable phones, Best Buy bought them back with 50$ gift cards for each one that they turned around and applied to the purchase. Pretty good deal imo.
:edit: I should have said, bought 2, 10 dollar disposables.
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Do you know how much they paid for the g2? I might do that...

I think I saw a post somewhere stating that you can upgrade through amazon.com for like 50 right now. I didn't check it out since I have the phone already but worth a look I would think.
As for the phone itself, I am in love with it. Even just stock rooted the phone is rock solid. The development is just starting up for the sprint model, so I am sure there is a great future ahead as long as we can keep good devs.

borkan said:
I think I saw a post somewhere stating that you can upgrade through amazon.com for like 50 right now. I didn't check it out since I have the phone already but worth a look I would think.
As for the phone itself, I am in love with it. Even just stock rooted the phone is rock solid. The development is just starting up for the sprint model, so I am sure there is a great future ahead as long as we can keep good devs.
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I think I saw Best Buy was $50 on Black Friday and the S4 was free on ATT, Verizon, and Sprint

I just got back from best buy and got one for the wife for $100. I should be able to check it out in a day or so.

I had the lg2 for a day too many disconnects off LTE I went back to the nexus 5.
See if they have figured out how to force spark.

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Do you know how much they paid for the g2? I might do that...
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When they got them, they were $99 at BB on a new line contract. Then, minus your $50 gift card on the buy back per phone.
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I just got back from best buy and got one for the wife for $100. I should be able to check it out in a day or so.
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Why didn't you do the cheap phone buy back or did they not offer that to you?

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When they got them, they were $99 at BB on a new line contract. Then, minus your $50 gift card on the buy back per phone.
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Why didn't you do the cheap phone buy back or did they not offer that to you?
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The buyback program ended Sunday. They would have bought the E4GT, but the screen is cracked. If the screen was not cracked and they did buy it it was going to be next to nothing for it.
Also, it seems everyone is making the holiday specials "not so special". Keep an eye on new phone pricing, I noticed a lot of advertised pricing for new client and $50-$100 more on upgrade pricing. It use to not make a difference so much in the past. Now the upgrade deals are not as good as a new account deal.

nsxla said:
I had the lg2 for a day too many disconnects off LTE I went back to the nexus 5.
See if they have figured out how to force spark.
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I have no problems with lte myself. It connects just fine and stays connected. It's always odd how different each phone can be.

Nope, I suspect all LG 2 to behave like that.
Driving about, the LG 2 will drop your connection (push you to 3g) much more than the nexus 5.
The last time I checked they had not found a way to enable two bands which I believe improves signal on LTE.

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Only? So where does that leave the Nexus 5, HTC One Max, Galaxy Mega and Galaxy S4 Mini? They're all tri-band too.
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Only? So where does that leave the Nexus 5, HTC One Max, Galaxy Mega and Galaxy S4 Mini? They're all tri-band too.
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Guess I'm behind on my phones, wasn't aware the last three had been released on Sprint yet. And forgot the N5 had tri band, my apologies.

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Guess I'm behind on my phones, wasn't aware the last three had been released on Sprint yet. And forgot the N5 had tri band, my apologies.
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Just wanted to throw it out there that there's more options no biggie. I would also throw in that the camera on the G2 is not so great and is plagued with similar problems as the LG Optimus G was/is. Struggles to focus on low light conditions. On daylight it takes great photos tho. Many frustrated owners on the G2 forums so I would take that into consideration if you use your phones camera a lot. Might apply to the Nexus 5 too as it was built by LG..
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N5, galaxy mega, and one max do as well.
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N5, galaxy mega, and one max do as well.
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Yeah, we established that like three posts ago lol... And the S4 Mini.

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Yeah, we established that like three posts ago lol... And the S4 Mini.
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My bad. Tapatalk did not show those for me. Bad school internet connection.
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so much for carrier updates

well according to 3uk it's in testing and will be several weeks, had it with a phone with a beta os and razer's hollow promises of swift updates picking up an s9+ next month this can get given to nephew, sorely disappointed I bought on the strength of my desktop peripherals and blade pro this phone falls well short of razer's standards in build quality and software support, 8know it's there first phone but first impressions count you can't put out a half rough product in today's market it's too competitive.
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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.

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Did Three Support tell you this? (The several weeks point) I haven't been able to get any information.
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Yes and not happy about it either
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Yes and not happy about it either View attachment 4400907
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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.

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That is the carrier fault not the oem. You will t have any better luck with Samsung. They are normally the last oem to update devices.
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I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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nexy33 said:
I've owned Samsung's since the S2 and generally they are 99.9 finished and working out the box build quality is getting better every release this is a first phone for razer in a competitive market , they promised fast updates where are they these were to address known software problems on the phone at release, razer support won't answer anything on phones fixes, and this product falls way short of the usual razer standard , at launch min himself said razer would be handling all the updates there was no mention of the carrier's providing them especially since 3 are probably one of the worst carriers for updates usually being the last to release any.
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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.

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I give you a bit of advice. Never believe what you are told.
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so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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nexy33 said:
so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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All of them do it. Like my brother has gone through 4 s8 and 2 s8+ from Samsung due to them not working properly. Every oem has the same issues. Buying the first device from a new oem is expected to have issues.

nexy33 said:
so razer has sold us a lemon then, you can't stand on a stage make promises and beat your chest don't deliver and expect not to get crap for it, if they don't start rolling things out at a better pace won't matter if there is a razer phone 2 it'll bomb and the twats still doing it on Twitter
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I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.

tabletalker7 said:
I just wanted to say one thing here. In the USA I didn't have a carrier option. I had to buy it from Razer. Did Razer sell you a lemon or did Three? Having the "non carrier" phone got me an extra update and my hardware and software both work buttery smooth. I suspect a lot of the fun you guys are having has something to do with Three.
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it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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nexy33 said:
it has but at the launch event all updates were stated as coming from razer, I'll still buy their desktop kit and blade laptops but I'm not going near their phones, 3 are the worst at deployment of phone updates this is the first carrier phone I've had in 20 years as it was the only way I could guarantee the special edition which turns out to be a sticker [emoji23][emoji23] as soon as the pre orders are up for the s9+ I'll be ordering one.
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If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three

tabletalker7 said:
If your updates are coming from Razer then why is Three stating they are testing the update? Your problems are coming from Three
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razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone

CptClubs said:
Samsung.... One of the leaders in weapon technology, so you buy Samsung you bomb someone
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ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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nexy33 said:
ex military so that's not gonna lose me any sleep [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Touché.

nexy33 said:
razer were the ones at the launch event who announced all updates we coming from them, if they had stated carrier's would be handling them then I wouldn't have gotten it from 3, they are my carrier but sim only as they are about the only mobile provider that does unlimited data I get excellent coverage from them 4g 120mb down and 40 mb up but I wouldn't normally take a handset from them but like I said only way to get a special edition 3 are the cause but razer were less than transparent with the facts. now they refuse to answer any problems with the phone either about build quality or software 8ssues the posts about it on the official forums have a habit of vanishing.
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I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.

Roxas598 said:
I could see this happening tbh as soon as it came out Three were responsible for the updates.
Don't get me wrong I kinda have remorse getting rid of the razer phone, (I had to RMA and just didn't trust the other on to be flawless so sold it ) I really wanted to help Razer with the phone so much and the Devs are fantastic especially Alex but even min told me on twitter updates wouldn't be held back (and they are now it's 2 behind). Guess there had to be a reason it was cheaper to buy from three.
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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.

If we in three don't receive these 2 missing updates in one shot then I'm going to rebuy the phone again directly from razer and sell this three phone.
It certainly is evident why there was so much cheaper. Wish I'd been able to wait the 2 week shipping time from razer themselves - to me in the UK rather then going for the next day delivery from three. Absolute [email protected]@rd$!

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If updates are important then never get it from a carrier. This is well known. They interfere too much.
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It is well known yeah but when the CEO says that we won't have to wait for Three youd think that answer would be true but it made me question does he actually know what's going on in his own software team?
I mean even factory images haven't been released yet so people can attempt to make their unit a razer one.
Also for what it's worth for people my RMA unit was another Three branded one so Razer do in fact have Three units for replacement.

Bit upset on the speed of these updates i still blame three and wish i could re image my phone to Razers Stock Image rather than Three's image.
What would be different if the build would be changed whats so special about Three's version as i can only assume Three related features like wifi calling and that

Model # Miss-match on ebay purchased phone

I bought a 16GB Motorola G6 Play off of ebay and it arrived today. I was verifying everything was in order when I noticed that the model number reads as XT1601, which correlates to the G4 Play. What's going on?
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jtroye32 said:
I bought a 16GB Motorola G6 Play off of ebay and it arrived today. I was verifying everything was in order when I noticed that the model number reads as XT1601, which correlates to the G4 Play. What's going on?
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You can change a device's name easily. G6 play is xt19×× not 16.
Try an app that reads more than just the build prop to know for sure. Can't think of one right now, but someone will chime in. Sounds like you got had.
Maybe cpu-Z app
Sprint is xt1922-7 so...

madbat99 said:
You can change a device's name easily. G6 play is xt17×× not 16.
Try an app that reads more than just the build prop to know for sure. Can't think of one right now, but someone will chime in. Sounds like you got had.
Maybe cpu-Z app
Sprint is xt1766-7 so...
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That's the e4 isn't it? I thought it was 1922-7

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That's the e4 isn't it? I thought it was 1922-7
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Yep. Your right. I was tinkering with my wife's e4. It got stuck in my brain.
Does it look like a g6 play?

madbat99 said:
Yep. Your right. I was tinkering with my wife's e4. It got stuck in my brain.
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I'm still fighting an e4 myself. You're a braver man than me. Or you would be if I were a man. That thing gives me headaches.

Starkiller2 said:
I'm still fighting an e4 myself. You're a braver man than me. Or you would be if I were a man. That thing gives me headaches.
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I'm trying to talk her into getting something else. It's starting to get the gray ring of death around the edges

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I'm trying to talk her into getting something else. It's starting to get the gray ring of death around the edges
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I had to wrestle it away from my ex. He didn't like learning new phones. Went with the g5 plus. It's still an upgrade but felt similar I guess??
I'm using a z2 force And they're pretty bulletproof. After shattering an e4, e5 play and three g6 plays, one day I saw my ninety lb Husky step her big hoof on my screen. I was scared to look. It literally left a claw dent that never made it past the shatter screen. And it's taken everything I've thrown at it. Got it on eBay for 20 bucks
I'm so sorry for straying off topic
Op if you download this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.trinea.android.developertools
It'll give you a better readout of the phone, including the cores, processors, CPU.

Starkiller2 said:
I had to wrestle it away from my ex. He didn't like learning new phones. Went with the g5 plus. It's still an upgrade but felt similar I guess??
I'm using a z2 force And they're pretty bulletproof. After shattering an e4, e5 play and three g6 plays, one day I saw my ninety lb Husky step her big hoof on my screen. I was scared to look. It literally left a claw dent that never made it past the shatter screen. And it's taken everything I've thrown at it. Got it on eBay for 20 bucks
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Nice work on the phones, LoL. Now that's thorough destruction. 4 5 and 3 6's
She's on virgin Mobile so I gotta get her something in their lineup. Probably an e5 plus since she doesn't care about updates. I only root her phone for ad blocking and tethering.

madbat99 said:
Nice work on the phones, LoL. Now that's thorough destruction. 4 5 and 3 6's
She's on virgin Mobile so I gotta get her something in their lineup. Probably an e5 plus since she doesn't care about updates. I only root her phone for ad blocking and tethering.
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I told you, I know how to do two things, break stuff and break into stuff. Lol
Those are super smooth. Nice screen too

madbat99 said:
Yep. Your right. I was tinkering with my wife's e4. It got stuck in my brain.
Does it look like a g6 play?
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It definitely looks to be the hardware/body of the G6 Play. Here are some additional pics. The only place I see mention of XT1922-7 is in the "Barcodes" section from fastboot mode.

jtroye32 said:
It definitely looks to be the hardware/body of the G6 Play. Here are some additional pics. The only place I see mention of XT1922-7 is in the "Barcodes" section from fastboot mode.
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Yeah that's a g6 play. Weird that it says that.

Mine says it correctly.

@jtroye32
My best guess is that someone stole it and used something like Sierra/Firehose to rewrite parts of the software to match a broken or out of service Moto G4 Play. I forget which parts you have to overwrite with the donor device, but you can basically make a stolen phone work legitimately like this. There isn't any other way I can think of, that would get your bootloader to say xt1609 under product/variant. Having Hynix ram looks off as well. I could be wrong but I think we all have Samsung dies. That leads me to believe a ram exploit was used to do it. I'd return it if possible. Have you tried activating it or unlocking the bootloader? That might give you some very interesting results.

Spaceminer said:
@jtroye32
My best guess is that someone stole it and used something like Sierra/Firehose to rewrite parts of the software to match a broken or out of service Moto G4 Play. I forget which parts you have to overwrite with the donor device, but you can basically make a stolen phone work legitimately like this. There isn't any other way I can think of, that would get your bootloader to say xt1609 under product/variant. Having Hynix ram looks off as well. I could be wrong but I think we all have Samsung dies. That leads me to believe a ram exploit was used to do it. I'd return it if possible. Have you tried activating it or unlocking the bootloader? That might give you some very interesting results.
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I haven't tried activating it yet as I'm waiting for a SIM that I ordered. What interesting results might there be from a bootloader unlock?

jtroye32 said:
I haven't tried activating it yet as I'm waiting for a SIM that I ordered. What interesting results might there be from a bootloader unlock?
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Depending on what was changed inside that thing, Motorola might not have a key to it at all, or might give you an invalid one. I can only speculate. You have the first device like this that I've ever encountered in a direct sense. I've only read about them previously.
Another thought that came to mind, is that it could also be a forgery out of China. Those do happen, but I also think they wouldn't go through the trouble for a device like this. They're more likely to knock off something like a Galaxy S10 which would give them a much better profit.
What I really think happened is... It got stolen in South or Central America, sold to a cartel member for pennies on the dollar, they reprogrammed it, and it changed hands a few more times before showing up online. Motorola has a huge market share in those parts of the world and cartels have been known to do this. Most people don't root their phones, so most people would never know anything was even amiss. They'd buy and activate it, and never be any the wiser.

That means that if this happens I cannot for example install an update firmware on my phone which happens the same?