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[Q] Backup application data

Anyone know of an application that can backup application data together with market links? (for non-rooted phones)
I know TB can do that and I already use that, but now my worry comes in when SE is releasing an update this week and we aren't sure whether we are able to root after this!

I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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im_iceman said:
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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Thanks for the reply.
I've used Mybackup Pro before with my X10, but I it couldn't backup the data unless you provide the "root" access to it and the restoration isn't as good as TB when it comes to rooted phone.
The biggest question here is that when the update is delivered, will we be able to root again using the Gingerbreak? If yes, then I've no problem sticking with TB, but if not then my worries start

I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).

daveybaby said:
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
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Yep. Agreed.
But here I'm looking at something which can backup the data of the application as well without a rooted phone and restore it in a non-rooted phone.
Any suggestion?

sounds like this needs root to work then..
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im_iceman said:
sounds like this needs root to work then..
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Disappointed.
Most of the phones out there (Android excluded) can do this. The best example is iPhone; thought I don't like it, I like this feature. That's the whole idea for us to connect to the PC every now and then. I don't know how hard it is for the phone makers to come up with something like this to backup the whole phone, including apps and their data; while they have access to everything since they are the manufacture of the phone.
Every now and then, surely there will be software updates and they will wipe the data. We have to setup it up from scratch and it takes a long time for that and more or less you will loss the application's data; unless you are rooted and use TB to backup; provided the "root" is still available for that software update.
Previously I tried a simple application for backing up the data of the famous game "Angry Birds". This app requires no "root", but does the job pretty well. Now when a third party application can do that means surely the phone maker should be able to do more than that!!

sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...

akusokuzan said:
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
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Does that application have a option to backup application (from market) together with it's data? Am I able to choose which application to backup/restore? Classic example is backup "Angry Birds" with it's completed levels and it's settings.

After the update my phone has become quite slow and freezes at times for 1-2 seconds. I would like to do a factory reset to see whether it can solve the problem but only thing stopping me from doing that is I couldn't find a software (be it a PC based software or and Phone application) that could backup my phone's application together with their data!
Any more advises or help?

Titanium Backup?

I have a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; I plan to unlock and root it, and try out some ROMs. Since I've had the phone for a while, though, I wanted to back up all my save data from games, and whatnot, so I used the root method that doesn't require unlocking, and I used Titanium Backup to back up all the apps I wanted it to.
I want to copy this back up folder to my computer, so when the phone gets wiped during the unlocking process, I can just transfer it back and restore everything once I'm back up and running. The thing is, when I connect my phone to the computer, the Titanium Backup folder does not show. I can see it on the phone itself, via a file manager, but I can't see it on my computer. So, how do I copy the folder to my computer?

could always 'adb pull' it.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't quite understand how to use adb commands. I tend to wait for one-click methods for this kind of thing.

A quick fix, titanium has drop box sync. Just send your entire titanium to drop box over wifi.
Then after you flash, it will pull down your backup over wifi. Its built in to titanium backup.

RogerPodacter said:
A quick fix, titanium has drop box sync. Just send your entire titanium to drop box over wifi.
Then after you flash, it will pull down your backup over wifi. Its built in to titanium backup.
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Eh... I suppose, but I think the entire backup is almost two gigs (unless I read it wrong), and my home Internet is kinda slow (and has been unusually even slower the last day or so), so that would take me forever.

If you restart your phone you will see the Titanium Backup folder on your pc. I have noticed that the Galaxy Nexus only refreshes the MediaStore on boot.
"The Media provider contains meta data for all available media on both internal and external storage devices"

runely said:
If you restart your phone you will see the Titanium Backup folder on your pc. I have noticed that the Galaxy Nexus only refreshes the MediaStore on boot.
"The Media provider contains meta data for all available media on both internal and external storage devices"
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Yup i have noticed that too.
btw just a quick question about Titanium Backup.
Does the phone have to be rooted or unlocked to use it?

RedBlueGreen said:
Yup i have noticed that too.
btw just a quick question about Titanium Backup.
Does the phone have to be rooted or unlocked to use it?
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Yes, you must be rooted.

martonikaj said:
Yes, you must be rooted.
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so what program can i use to save my app data? Because doesnt rooting the phone wipe it?
Iv looked around but cant seem to find one.
I tried Mybackup but i cant seem to save the app data
I can only backup
contacts
call log
bookmarks
sms
mms
system settings
android home
alarms
dictionary
calendar
music playerlist
APNs

RedBlueGreen said:
so what program can i use to save my app data? Because doesnt rooting the phone wipe it?
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Not rooting, but unlocking the bootloader specifically, which is generally required to root the device.
Iv looked around but cant seem to find one.
I tried Mybackup but i cant seem to save the app data
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There's the ADB method for backing up. No root req'd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351

martonikaj said:
Not rooting, but unlocking the bootloader specifically, which is generally required to root the device.
There's the ADB method for backing up. No root req'd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Thanks but you already told me how to on the thread i made

RedBlueGreen said:
Thanks but you already told me how to on the thread i made
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Oh well I hardly look at (or remember) user names. Glad you got it figured out.

What's the best backup app?

As much as I love the Note 3 it has problems with backup apps. I haven't got Titanium Backup to work successfully. Now it won't even let me install it, it says not enough space. I just used Rom Toolbox, flashed a rom and restored and it and only some apps restored and no data restored. So what are people using successfully?

I use titanium Backup Pro 6.1.5.2 and I run the tb fixer app after each restore and I have no problems.
Edit: so you're aware, in still on 4.3 I've been doing this this way since i got my phone in January, but this works fine for me.

I'm on TMo KitKat and TB works fine for me. Always has. There was a time when I had to use the fixer app but that isn't an issue anymore. I have tried Helium Backup and it's ok, but it still doesn't touch TB imo. I believe Helium doesn't require root either.

Nate Rules said:
As much as I love the Note 3 it has problems with backup apps. I haven't got Titanium Backup to work successfully. Now it won't even let me install it, it says not enough space. I just used Rom Toolbox, flashed a rom and restored and it and only some apps restored and no data restored. So what are people using successfully?
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I think G Cloud Backup.

b.huss2 said:
I'm on TMo KitKat and TB works fine for me. Always has. There was a time when I had to use the fixer app but that isn't an issue anymore. I have tried Helium Backup and it's ok, but it still doesn't touch TB imo. I believe Helium doesn't require root either.
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I uninstalled TB so I could reinstall it and see if it would work. But now all I get is an error saying that there is "insufficient storage available", any idea how to fix that? Thanks.

Nate Rules said:
I uninstalled TB so I could reinstall it and see if it would work. But now all I get is an error saying that there is "insufficient storage available", any idea how to fix that? Thanks.
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That's an old TB issue but to fix it is simple:
1- Use any file explorer like Root Explorer or ES File Explorer, etc.
2- go to /data/app,
3- find and delete "com.kermidas.TitaniumBackup-1.odex".

Used TB since I got the phone. Now on Stock rooted 4.4.2 still works fine. I backup to the external SDcard which gets copied one of my servers at home every Sunday as an archive backup. Pictures, videos that might be on the phone, and other stuff is stored on the External as well.
Using current version as updated by Play market as updates come out.

Titanium backup is the king when it comes to backup, constantly supported and updated. Nothing competes with it imho, cloud backup is junk.
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Mybackup Pro is a nice one too

I use TB all the time on my Note 3 and haven't had any problems. After a fresh install, I've also restored apps via Nandroid Manager Pro from a recent nandroid which saved me the trouble of going through and selecting or deselecting apps that I don't need installed but want a backup of. The process took a really long time but was pretty much automated. That will probably be my preferred method after a fresh flash, assuming that I have a recent enough nandroid.
Not a fan of My Backup Pro. Can you say DRM that prevents use by paying customers?... I bought the app on my Note 3 and installed it there and on my Note 8. It worked fine on the tablet, but on my Note 3, kept giving me an "invalid license" message. I tried all kinds of things: reinstall after wiping Dalvik / cache, running a few junk cleaner apps, but no love. Dev seemed like kind of a hard-ass when I emailed him for a refund, but got my money back after a few emails.
Anyways, yeah. What I said before.

Ok gonna try TB, has good feedbacks

Lorettaa said:
Ok gonna try TB, has good feedbacks
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Titanium Backup has worked flawlessly for me for many years, on HTC G2, SGS2, and now Note 3.

I just straight up use the app backup that es file explorer has built in to it. TB for me had many problems, ROM toolbox as mentioned actually only backed up/restored certain apps for me, but es has not failed me once since ice cream sandwich. As long as you keep your backups fresh...
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Just back-up using TWRP

[Q] Titanium Backup

So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
So here's a question for you guys.....................
I have the HTC One M8 and am rooted and S-OFF, as well as ViperOne M8 and Titanium Backup.
Whenever I get an update from Team Venom for ViperOne, I notice it says just as it's finishing the reboot (post-install) that it's upgrading my apps. So does that mean that the backups that I have (for my apps) which are stored in Titanium Backup are no longer current? I don't think the upgrade process affects the backed up data that was done pre-install, so it seems like that data would be outdated at this point?
Please answer if you think you know.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)

Hopefully you are only talking user installed apps? Is not a good idea to be restoring system apps.

correct, YOUR apps, that you backed up to TB are current as of the day you backed them up.
once you restore them, via TB, then of course, open play store, and let it check and see if there are any updates to YOUR previously backed up apps.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
No it doesn't, usually when developers release a new ROM update they also update all of their stock apps on their ROM to the newest versions. Because of that, when you reboot it tends to say that because it is updating the apps for it and or caching them. (this is to my knowledge of how it works, still though your backups are fine)
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So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
So ViperOne is updating TB for me? If so, is that updating the TB backups as well??
Thank You,
RockStar2005
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It is updating any apps that come with the ROM such as the HTC TV app or other HTC apps, TB is not included because it is not one of the pre-loaded apps that the developer included with the ROM. Also as stated above, the TB backups are not touched by this, they stay the same as they were when you made them soo you have to update the backups yourself if you wanted to.

Shadowz,
Ok, that's what I thought. I just needed to hear you say it in a different way to be sure. lol
So anytime there's a new update, I'm gonna need to re-backup all the apps with TB then. Seems like TB is only good if you mess something up and wanna restore the apps' data. When you're just doing an incremental update, or especially a full ROM install, then it's useless. I may just uninstall it.
Thanks Shadowz!
RockStar2005

Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current

stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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THIS is the proper way to use TB...

I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?

stathis95194 said:
Not really useless. You can create a daily schedule to backup your apps and data so you stay always current
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Ehh, it was late last night when I posted that, and I was cranky. lol
I don't have the PRO/donate version ($5.99?? geez), so I can only schedule up to 2 days max for automatic backups.
Thanks Stathis.
RockStar2005

this was one of the first apps I bought years ago, as it has saved my butt many times over the years..

KJ said:
I've used TB for years. After flashing clean, I just restore my user apps, data also for some and aside from a few system settings.... I'm right back how I was.
I use Nova, so restoring it's settings puts my home screens right back how they were too.
Not sure why people would want to mess with Nandroid data restores when this whole process above takes hardly any time and never brings issues. ?
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Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005

RockStar2005 said:
Hi KJ,
Yeah I noticed that too as I also have Nova.
So you're saying you never do any nandroid backups? Interesting. Where do you save the TB backup files? I don't like saving them on internal storage, so I just transfer them to a flash drive or OneDrive (formerly SkyDrive).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.

KJ said:
I occasionally do a nandroid. Only for a full restore. And usually just before wiping and Flashing something. I don't always, cause I can flash roms or stock manually just as easy.
And I just keep my TB backups on the device.
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KJ,
I see. Ok. I'm still gonna do them, but more for emergencies than anything.
I did that but then one time recently something happened and my internal storage got wiped clean. I save a copy on my external SD card, but then I thought "what if my phone got lost?", and decided to just store it on flash or cloud. Just wish TB would let you store it on THEIR own server so you don't have to worry about doing it manually or automatically elsewhere. The options they have like Google Drive don't offer as much space. I have Google Drive but don't want to give up the space. And I think DropBox is only 1 GIG? There is that Titanium variant that stores them automatically for only $2.99, but that got bad reviews.
Thanks,
RockStar2005

I've used TB for a few years now (paid version). I use it mainly to backup my user data just in case. Right now my M8 is stock (just got it and I wait until my warrenty is up before rooting etc) so I'm not really using it now. When I do root I'll be able to take my user data from a few games I'm playing on my rooted Transformer Prime and put the data on my phone. That's really the only thing I use TB for execpt for freezing bloatware so I can unfreeze, use Voodo Root Keeper (if it works on the device) and get OTA's. User data is always my biggest priority. I can reinstall any apps from the play store. Yes, this can take some time but doing it this way, when I f-up I can pick and choose what apps I put back on and leave off apps that I installed in the past but never use anymore. To each is own I guess. One good example was about a year ago Google updated the standard music app. I hated it. It screwed up all my album art and I hated the new interface. I used TB to restore the older version and it was like it never happened.

Android ID Backup / Restore Pixel XL Oreo

Ok folks, I've been googling for a while now and can't get a straight simple answer. I have an app, MoviePass, that once installed links to your Android ID and won't allow you to change but once per month. I didn't know this until already changing it once, so now I can't flash anything for another 30 damn days or the app won't work. Here's my question: How do I backup and then restore my Android ID? And before you answer , it has apparently changed in Oreo. I found a ton of posts showing how to do it with titanium Backup, but that method apparently no longer works in Oreo because of the changes made in how the Android ID is stored per app now or something. So please does anyone have a PROVEN method that you know 100% works that I can try ? I don't wanna downgrade to Nougat just to be able to do this lol. This app is holding me up from flashing awesomeness!

Stuck in the same boat.. I have to do a backup, then restore my old rom to use movie pass and then restore my backup. It's super annoying but at least it works. Hope there is a way to fix this for us who flash often

unknown3rror said:
Stuck in the same boat.. I have to do a backup, then restore my old rom to use movie pass and then restore my backup. It's super annoying but at least it works. Hope there is a way to fix this for us who flash often
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I actually managed to get it working. I have Titanium Backup Pro, not sure if you need that version or the free one, but I did a full backup of the app and then restored the app after flashing a new ROM and downloading Titanium Backup. The app restored, and MoviePass didn't give me any problems.

Phalanx7621 said:
I actually managed to get it working. I have Titanium Backup Pro, not sure if you need that version or the free one, but I did a full backup of the app and then restored the app after flashing a new ROM and downloading Titanium Backup. The app restored, and MoviePass didn't give me any problems.
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I've tried with titanium backup but it didn't work. I went from andoid N to O and my phone says it's a pixel XL (I have axon 7) so that may have something to do with it..?
Edit: So I just tried again and it worked! Thanks

unknown3rror said:
I've tried with titanium backup but it didn't work. I went from andoid N to O and my phone says it's a pixel XL (I have axon 7) so that may have something to do with it..?
Edit: So I just tried again and it worked! Thanks
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No problem! Yeah they changed the way Android ID worked and how it is associated with applications in O versus previous versions of Android. Glad it worked !

If you want to restore the Android id of a previous version on the same phone then you have to just Backup "Settings storage" and then restore it.