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Backing up befroe rooting

SO i finally decided to root my phone but i have a couple questions. my phone is pretty dam customized an di spent several hours doing it (ie- installed programs, have game save files, custom, desktops, ringtone, alerts, accounts, facebook contacts linked with gmail contacts...)
so first question- using backup pro or any other backup program if a backup is created once the phone is rooted can i run the restore to get all my programs and settings back?
also i know to root your phoen you need to overwrite the sd card. if i copy all my info off the sd card, can i copy it right back once the root is complete (ie- pics, game saves...)
anything esle i should know before rooting.
fyi- i have worked for several tyears as a windows,systems/network admin, so the technical part of rooting is not my question is the backup and recovery of the programs and settings and such
thanks in advance

I am not an expert but maybe this answer can help.
As far as backing up and restoring, u should be fine with whatever program u use. Rooting just gives u super user access to the root directory, but doesn't actually overwrite anything that would prevent u from restoring programs u had backed up. Installing a custom rom however is more of re-writing of the underlying software, which then forces you to put a lot more effort back into restoring (i.e. home screen layout, widgets,...).
As far as your sd card, I didn't have to wipe or reformat mine when I rooted. In fact I am using the same card I had in my moto droid. I may have formatted to fat32 at one point back then, but I do not recall having to re-wipe when rooting my Dinc.
Hope this helps.
P.s. I also recommend switching to titanium backup once rooted. It is by far the best backup and restore utility out there. Also, u may want to post questions like this in the proper forum, not the dev forum. People tend to get peeved by improper posting.
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I'll repost in the correct spot. dont wanna ruffle any feathers. ya know its just i put so much work into customizing the phone i dont want to have to redo it. but as long as i document what i have done i should be able to redo it all myslef if the backup fails. the program i use it mybackup pro btw

All the back up apps require root. Rooting will not delete any of your data. Root and do a nandroid

Not all backup apps require root, just the better ones. I like titanium because it will save your customizations as well as your apps.
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so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
thanks

I'm not a pro at this stuff but from my experience your worrying about stuff you really don't need to at this point. Rooting itself isn't gonna delete anything. It's just gonna give you more access to your phone. You still have the same radio, same hboot, and same OS version and kernel.
All I'm saying is download unrevoked3, root your phone, then first thing do a nandroid backup and boom your backed up. And after you boot it up download Titanium Backup and start backing up.

shehababbassi said:
so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but if it's to transfer all the files from your sd card to your computer, wipe & format and then re-add, then it depends on your computer. I have a mac so I save a backup copy of my sd card on my desktop by mounting my phone as a disk drive when I plug it in, and then drag and drop all the files I want to save (or transfer to my phone). This will also transfer your backup files as well (assuming they are being saved to your sd card).
Eno is right though, you are getting ahead of yourself right now.
Root, do a nandroid backup, get titanium and then have fun with your newly rooted phone.
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I have also been backing up my texts with SMS Backup. I haven't had any luck with just restoring data from titanium. But as they're saying, root is really the first step.
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Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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HarrisonBP said:
Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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Every time I flash a new Rom I do sms backup and restore, call log backup and restore, and apn backup and restore. All of which are from the same dev. Call logs backup and restore is what you are looking for but an apn backup is always handy.

[Q] Backup application data

Anyone know of an application that can backup application data together with market links? (for non-rooted phones)
I know TB can do that and I already use that, but now my worry comes in when SE is releasing an update this week and we aren't sure whether we are able to root after this!

I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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im_iceman said:
I was thinking the same.. I've backed up using mybackup pro.. backs up app and data.. not sure about market links though, but it's the best non rooted back up I've found..
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Thanks for the reply.
I've used Mybackup Pro before with my X10, but I it couldn't backup the data unless you provide the "root" access to it and the restoration isn't as good as TB when it comes to rooted phone.
The biggest question here is that when the update is delivered, will we be able to root again using the Gingerbreak? If yes, then I've no problem sticking with TB, but if not then my worries start

I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).

daveybaby said:
I for one am not going to update until i know the new version can be rooted.
Other than that, i can second the recommendation to use mybackup pro. It's not a titanium replacement by any means, but it gets the essentials (sms, calendar, etc etc) done perfectly well (in fact i use it for this sort of thing in preference to TB anyway).
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Yep. Agreed.
But here I'm looking at something which can backup the data of the application as well without a rooted phone and restore it in a non-rooted phone.
Any suggestion?

sounds like this needs root to work then..
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im_iceman said:
sounds like this needs root to work then..
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Disappointed.
Most of the phones out there (Android excluded) can do this. The best example is iPhone; thought I don't like it, I like this feature. That's the whole idea for us to connect to the PC every now and then. I don't know how hard it is for the phone makers to come up with something like this to backup the whole phone, including apps and their data; while they have access to everything since they are the manufacture of the phone.
Every now and then, surely there will be software updates and they will wipe the data. We have to setup it up from scratch and it takes a long time for that and more or less you will loss the application's data; unless you are rooted and use TB to backup; provided the "root" is still available for that software update.
Previously I tried a simple application for backing up the data of the famous game "Angry Birds". This app requires no "root", but does the job pretty well. Now when a third party application can do that means surely the phone maker should be able to do more than that!!

sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...

akusokuzan said:
sprite backup is what i used before titanium backup. no need for root, but it stores everything in batch backups...
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Does that application have a option to backup application (from market) together with it's data? Am I able to choose which application to backup/restore? Classic example is backup "Angry Birds" with it's completed levels and it's settings.

After the update my phone has become quite slow and freezes at times for 1-2 seconds. I would like to do a factory reset to see whether it can solve the problem but only thing stopping me from doing that is I couldn't find a software (be it a PC based software or and Phone application) that could backup my phone's application together with their data!
Any more advises or help?

Few Newbie Questions

Hi guys,
OK, so I'm not really a newbie as I loaded Android onto my HD2, both SD and NAND versions (RIP HD2 ).
But, it has been a while and I have a couple of questions I've been trying to find answers to:
I got my nexus though vodafone UK, if this makes a difference.
Can I root this phone without wiping the device? I'm currently quite happy with the stock rom , but I'd like to push some custom boot animations, etc.
I've been looking into backing up apps that I've downloaded as I don't currently have wifi access - I do get unlimited data for a few months, but it'll take ages to download it all again!
Titanium Backup was my first port of call, but says it requires root...
And lastly, if I were to use Titanium to back up, say, a game, would my progress in that game be saved?
Many thanks for any info
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phanteh said:
Can I root this phone without wiping the device? I'm currently quite happy with the stock rom , but I'd like to push some custom boot animations, etc.
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Rooting your phone doesnt wipe your device, however in order to root your phone you will need to unlock the bootloader which is a very simple process but this process DOES wipe your device. It only needs to be performed once though but without doing it you wont be able to do anything else.
Use the Sticky Thread to find out how to install fastboot drivers which you will need to unlock the bootloader. Then you can use pauls r3 Superboot to root the phone.
I've been looking into backing up apps that I've downloaded as I don't currently have wifi access - I do get unlimited data for a few months, but it'll take ages to download it all again!
Titanium Backup was my first port of call, but says it requires root...
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Any app that will backup your apps/settings will require root. You can also flash ClockworkMod and make a NAND backup of your device, then restore the DATA partition on a new Rom to restore your apps.
And lastly, if I were to use Titanium to back up, say, a game, would my progress in that game be saved?
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Im pretty sure it saves app data so that would include saved games or settings.
Mark.

Cheers Mark!
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[GNex TOOLKIT V7.4] I'm unable to install USB driver

I don't know what i'm wrong but when i try to install USB driver with GNex TOOLKIT i can't, at end of the procedure, my serial number. The software returns "...doesn't have loaded mui entry"
I don't know what can i do...
Thanks
P.S. I'm unable to post in dedicated section/topic because of my post counter is under 10
Sry for bad english

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kgreemi stric
thanks, it was very simple! the pdanet returned an error but at the end all work right. i think.. now i can try "camera enhancements".
can you say me if i have to reset the phone/lose all my data/have to format or something like this, for obtain the "camera enhancements"?
i've this phone from 4 days and i've spent all my free time to set it properly. i don't want lose all my progress, it was a waste of time

mArCo1928 said:
thanks, it was very simple! the pdanet returned an error but at the end all work right. i think.. now i can try "camera enhancements".
can you say me if i have to reset the phone/lose all my data/have to format or something like this, for obtain the "camera enhancements"?
i've this phone from 4 days and i've spent all my free time to set it properly. i don't want lose all my progress, it was a waste of time
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As with all programs such as the toolkit and playing with system files Mike the developer of the program recommends a full backup before you start playing - just in case. (So do I, always) That way you don't lose your setup that you have worked on so hard...
The camera mods do not wipe or affect the phone in any way, at least not when I applied them, but things can go wrong, so that's why you back up

stinky73 said:
As with all programs such as the toolkit and playing with system files Mike the developer of the program recommends a full backup before you start playing - just in case. (So do I, always) That way you don't lose your setup that you have worked on so hard...
The camera mods do not wipe or affect the phone in any way, at least not when I applied them, but things can go wrong, so that's why you back up
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Thanks, for a full backup of my system, application, settings, launcher settings, messages and so on, what i have to do exactly? Also partition and other important stuff if i don't remind/know now. Partition, SD Card, things like that, a complete backup of device i intend.
There's no need to this? I don't want to risk anything

mArCo1928 said:
Thanks, for a full backup of my system, application, settings, launcher settings, messages and so on, what i have to do exactly? Also partition and other important stuff if i don't remind/know now. Partition, SD Card, things like that, a complete backup of device i intend.
There's no need to this? I don't want to risk anything
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Nandroid backup is included in the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit so use that. Everything is backed up by that - you can even get really clever and extract sms mms etc. from the nandroid (for example here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370349) if that is what you mean by messages. Surely your emails will be on your email server, contacts in your google account as extra backup even though the nandroid will contain them? Unless you do something really radical, like fully wipe the SOC, partition etc doesn't enter into it...

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Nandroid backup is included in the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit so use that. Everything is backed up by that - you can even get really clever and extract sms mms etc. from the nandroid (for example here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370349) if that is what you mean by messages. Surely your emails will be on your email server, contacts in your google account as extra backup even though the nandroid will contain them? Unless you do something really radical, like fully wipe the SOC, partition etc doesn't enter into it...
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hi, i unlocked my phone, but... where i can find what it was of my interests? camera enhancements. Where i can find it, in the toolkit 7.4?
ok, it was on mods section of the toolkit

At My Wits End

ok so heres what has happened. I dropped and broke my Sprint Gs3 scrren + digitizer. Luckily i was on someone elses plan at the time, so i simply created a new plan in my name and got a replacement Gs3 that way. (since the plan i was on had no insurance).
The problem im having is with only 1 app in particular. Its a game called Guilty Dragon, and its only in Japanese. i didnt know until i broke the first phone, that all my character data is stored in 'data/app' folder. the game itself lets you backup you character via logging into twitter, which is supposed to make it easy to migrate your character in situations like this one. Problem is, every time i try to use that twitter function to restore my character data to my new phone, the app crashes. I've already contacted Namco Bandai in Japanese, still no response from them about this. I was hoping there would be some way to get the data/app folder backed up from the original, now broken digitizer, phone, since it is still recognized on my pc with a usb cable. I've tried APK Batch Installer tool v1.5, but it did not back up the data like it said it did, instead it put an empty data folder in the backup directory. Any help, thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated, im on a SPH-L710 with JellyBombRom v13.0.0 , i tried updating to v 15 at first but it was doing the same thing with this app so i thought maybe it was the cause, downgraded to what i had before and still the same problem. I dont think its a problem with the rom though since i even just basic rooted and tried the game before flashing roms and it still also did the same thing.

Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data

CNexus said:
Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data
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yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?

CharmingNotSincere said:
yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?
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Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321

tkepk181 said:
Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321
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That, or online nandroid dude

Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.

CharmingNotSincere said:
Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.
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Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.

CNexus said:
Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.
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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.

topherk said:
Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.
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hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.

CharmingNotSincere said:
hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.
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Open your backup and go to /data/data/package-name-of-game-here/ and check to see if that directory even exists and if there are files there.