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Was going to preorder LG G5 but will wait for M10 now

The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.

I'm waiting too.

MrNetwork said:
The value of the preorder for the LG G5 means you get $932 worth of equipment for $632. It was very tempting, but I don't want to preorder it and then wish I had waited for the M10. I really want the M10 to be top dog. Rumor is going around there is going to be a M10+ with a 5.5" screen but nothing about when or where it would be released. That's the one I'd rather have.
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Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...

i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo

alray said:
Even if it still a rumor, I would stay away for the M10+ and buy the M10. If you look in the past, you'll see that the "+" variant never had good development compared to the non "+" one. Might not be an issue if you don't care about custom roms...
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Thanks for the tip. I'll heed your advice.

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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All metal? Ha! I'm glad I resisted and didn't buy this. After watching these, I would have been unhappy. Thanks.

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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Wow! Hopefully the HTC 10 will be better.

Me too

codeglitch said:
i just saw these 2 videos and i got disappointed with LG, i wasn't going to buy it but i expected more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyP_cEpp2Zo
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That tear down video is a plus for me. The phone is easy to repair! The only criticism he makes is the "lack of premium feel". Personally that is way down on my list of concerns. I am not looking to impress anyone with how great my phone looks and I doubt anyone gives a damn anyway. I look for the features I want first and foremost. I have to admit I was not happy with how thin the glass over the screen is on the other video. That does kind off suck but I don't think it is a deal breaker for me.
I have a G5 arriving tomorrow. The camera and the replaceabe battery are what sold me. The free extra battery and charge case and the free 360 degree camera made me jump on it. I will miss the wireless charging now I am accustomed to it and have charge plates sitting everywhere! I only wonder if I should hold off opening the box until I can find out more about the HTC 10 after it is released on the 12th. I

I believe LG is on to something-- a modular phone has been my geek dream since the birth of smartphones! However, I don't think the first generation "beta" of this feature is going to be where it's at. There are a couple WOW mods (Battery and camera) that are simply awesome, but otherwise this first iteration is just a really nice albeit average phone with some snap-in "meh."
If the M10 fails to impress, the G5 is probably what I'm going to get. I didn't pre-order the G5, so I won't be getting the package either way.

I pre-ordered the G5 as I wasn't convinced of the HTC 2016 flagship a month ago.
However my pre-order for the G5 has now been delayed to the 22nd April and as a result I've been following the build up and now really liking the look of the HTC 10.
If it has a 5.1 inch or bigger LCD (not AMOLED), SD 820, 4GB RAM, I think I'll cancel my G5 and get this. I'd want the black face though, either with silver back or black back, I don't like the white fronted version in the leaks....
Time will tell tomorrow.

The G5 is a flop. Most of the reviews say it's half baked and pretty lackluster. The only good thing anyone has to say about it is that the camera is good.
I am currently using the S7 Edge but I have one more Jump until June. (I am on T-Mobile's Jump on Demand program which gives me 3 upgrades a year). I was going to maybe move to the G5 or the HTC 10 since I wasn't all that impressed with the S7E. After the major update T-Mobile pushed out for the S7E last week, my mind changed and I am now extremely impressed with the S7E. The battery lasts forever and the touchscreen is no longer overly sensitive.
That being said, I will wait to see what the HTC 10 brings. I love the look of the phone and I like Sense more than TW. The only thing I wish it had was a larger display but I can live with 5.2".
At the end of the day, the G5 is already crossed off the list. I played around with one in the store and was totally unimpressed. It felt like crap in my hand. The chamfered edges are too sharp and feel uncomfortable while I'm gaming in horizontal view. The display is also very average. Not impressed one bit. I wouldn't call it bad but it wasn't what I'd expect from LG. When it comes to looks, I know it comes down to personal preference but damn the G5 us fugly. When you hold a S7E next to it, you can just see that the S7E is on a whole nother level when it comes to sleekness. Everything wasn't bad for the G5 though. The UI felt snappy and I didn't notice and lag/jitters.

I like the look and feel of the G5. I think all the phones pretty much look the same and I really don't care that much about it anyone. I don't think anyone is getting laid because their phone is so impressive. I have been wanting a wide angle shooter on a phone for years...awesome! I have always carried spare batteries. I can always go from 10% to 100% in seconds.....also awesome!
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LG g5 is DOA. I'm returning mine. Better competition. The build quality alone isn't very good as that gap between the module and Chassis is frustrating. Moreover, the camera isn't as good as the S7 Edge.
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I've cancelled my g5 order. It getting delayed was definitely meant to be as I've ordered the htc 10 for only £13 more

After seeing the HTC 10 today it's looking very promising. Much better than the G5.

What do you mean by better? The finish and feel might be slicker but that is not my main concern. I will miss the wireless charging on my S3 but the 10 doesn't have that either. The replaceable battery and wide angle shooter are what makes me want the G5. No matter how great the phone looks it ain't much good if the battery craps out on you at 2AM and you are not at home! Zero to 100% in seconds will always be a winner for me. I always carry a spare battery. No matter how strong the battery life of the S7 is it will not be as good in a year! The fee charge cradle, spare battery, and 360 camera cinched it for me (I see the T-mo offer on the 360 cam had been extended so you can still get it).
Did you see the breakdown review on juryrigeverythind.com (I think that is it)? The G5 will be very easy to repair. That makes up for a little sloppiness in built to me, as long as everything works ok from the start. I think they all look like cell phones. If you want to look cool get some new clothes, nobody is looking at your phone and judging you on it!
None of the reviews fault the G5 on performance, it is a beast. Most of the reviewers discount the friends module aspect of the phone because there are not many now and it is questionable what will develop. Still, the idea that I might get surprised with some cool new module feature is a plus for me. Who doesn't get a little bored with the phone after a couple years? I think the G5 is getting unfair treatment by a lot of reviewers.
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The big cross against G5 is the locked (or unlocked custom as seen on Tmobile variant) bootloader. That's a big one for me. I was looking at G5 and gave up on it because of that.
As for battery, I just carry a 10k slab and charge up my phone using that if I am not next to a wall or laptop or pc. Who wants to reboot the phone for a replaceable battery! So, I will likely not use that unique feature of G5 ever.

Going to wait and see what this feels like in hand, coming from 5.5 and up phones I don't want this to feel tiny in my hands.
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I've had my G5 for 2 days now. Build is good- the modular piece seams nicely, feels good in hand. Tested for light bleed- minimal bleed on top and only noticeable in darkened room with test app, very accceptable. I read about someone having a proble with the audio jack- mine is very tight. Someone said they had hissing sound with BT- mine is great with my jawbone and my car unit. Battery time is ok, maybe not great, I tend to be a heavy user. Quick charge is very fast, about 1% per minute. I look forward to receiving the spare battery, unlike previous poster I do not mind rebooting my phone, especially if I can go from 15% ot 100% in 30 seconds! Camera is very good, lover the wide angle. It seems that the metering only has center weight and matrix which disappoints but I may not be understanding the interface, need to find a manual, phone only comes with a quick start guide so I guess I can download from LG. Overall I am very happy. Can't wait to play around with promo 360 camera when it arrives!
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG G5, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG G5 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.

smacsteve said:
Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.
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Maybe it committed suicide as it no longer loved you.
You should have tried relationship counselling, but now it is too late.

Unrootable means un usable in my eyes. Plus the battery lasts about 6 hours.

Not sure why you can't use it without root, I am. And my battery last all day with 4G.
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Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.

LG G5 more hits than misses
Upgraded a number of family phones to the LG G5. I'm a bit old school and prefer simple flip phones. We would probably still be using Samsung Rugby flip phones if they worked with our carrier.
If you're in the market for a high end phone that's more than shiny, with lots of usable practical features and actually includes the latest available technology, consider the LG G5. We think it definitely has more hits than misses.
1. The 3 Cameras, make the phone one of the best camera substitute
2. Modern CPU (Qualcomm 820, currently top of the line) helps performance, battery efficiency, spectrum / wireless performance.
3. 4GB RAM useful for multitasking and running large demanding software
4. 32GB internal built in storage
5. Expandable storage with Micro SD (sorry Apple)
6. Miracast, industry standard screen sharing
7. IR Blaster
8. USB-C, the modern USB port the industry actually agrees and moving towards
(including devices from Apple, Google, Microsoft, LG, etc).
9. User removable / replaceable battery
10. Modular, and easy repair-ability
11. FM capable - enabled depending on carrier
12. A major phone brand / model thus more available accessories
13. Price point - best value for high end / flagship phone
Cons - what's missing that other devices may offer
1. Water / Dust proof - a nicety, and can be added to the LG G5 via certain cases.
2. Premium Metal / Glass feel - subjective. The LG G5 is all aluminum but covered in a primer paint. Besides, most folks I know use a phone case.
We have a number of mobile lines / phones within our family. Our last few phones have been Samsung, from Samsung flip phones to Android devices Galaxy T989D/S2X, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4. When we were up for replacements, we going to go with Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but it was no longer available, replaced by the Note 5. The Note 5 was more expensive than the Note 4. It was hard to justify paying more for a successor that included less than its predecessor - no Micro SD, no IR, no removable battery. Note 5 excluded usable practical features for a shiny exterior, and wasn't even water proof. We heard new phones were coming March / April 2016 so we waited and eventually decided on the LG G5. We believe it to be the best value, and offered the opportunity to award a vendor trying to innovate.
Ultimately it's just a phone, but at least it has the more important convergence features covered, mainly solid phone features, and solid camera.
** Unrelated, but its thanks to XDA community and other enthusiasts who help keep golden oldies such as the T989/S2X and Note 2 phones kicking. There's several Marshmallow ports for T989 and Note 2

LightJak said:
Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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Got a G5 (on AT&T) yesterday as a gift from my work and am coming from a Moto G with custom ROM's galore. The only thing I really miss is forward and back arrows in the nav bar for typing and Chrome Pie. Why pie controls aren't native to Chrome and requires root access is absolutely stupid.
Every other root function I used on my Moto G was to make up for the limitations of the device. No need now. Holy crap this thing is fast as hell and thanks to doze, standby is crazy. The SD 820 is an absolute beast of an SOC. And this is only my first full day on it. Going on a hike later today and can't wait to use the camera on this thing. So far I am very impressed with this phone.

Just received my EU h850 in the mail on Wed, already unlocked and rooted. No build quality issues at all.
Don't know why some are having battery issues. I easily get 24hrs of use with 5+hrs sot
That's with gaming,youtube, browsing,and Bluetooth
The screen uses much less battery than my Sprint g3...and even with custom everything on my g3 this phone performs sooo much better in everyway.
I think carrier branded g5 have a lot of bloat killing battery
Haven't heard a bad thing about unbranded h850 yet

Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. I have a G4 and the G5 flies compares to it (I loved the G4 too even though it had it's issues!). The only negative point is that getting a good tempered glass screen protector is going to be a nightmare as the screen is clearly quite flexible (hence the corner buckles etc) and so getting one to fit perfectly is going to be a challenge. Having said that, this is a very new phone, and all new3 models have odd issues (software/hardware), so if it becomes a problem then I'll RMA it to O2 or LG and get it swapped.

Hate some of the software tweaks, but this is a damn fine phone.

All in all, this is a pretty good phone. I'm really liking the wide angle lens and the fingerprint sensor. (This is my first phone with a fingerprint sensor)

adamelphick said:
Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. .
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Same here and agreed... awesome standby time as well... My only issue with it is, I wish the screen and always on display were brighter outside and the overall volume was a bit louder, especially when using your own ringtones, like my G4. When I set up mine.. I didnt bother with the App drawer update, to me.. it was a new phone, new UI so I went for a bit of a change instead of copying my old G4 setup... made me feel like Ide actually bought a new phone.. and im finding it much simpler and enjoyable to use.
I find the UX5 much slicker and faster to use, more responsive and I can fly through tasks, OneNote and OneDrive.. Very Happy with my G5, also the 0.2" screen reduction makes no difference after a day or so

For the ATT G5 is there a way to save pictures/files/videos directly to the memory card or does that require root?

Love it. I'm not crazy about the design but a 2.5$ case makes it look badass.
Camera is outstanding, battery life is good (30 hours with 4 hours SOT , brightness is set to Auto, BT and NFC off).
The phone works fast and doesn't overheat.
I'm happy

Loving my G5 had it a few months now, bought the Spigen Rugged Armor case really nice, snug fit. Great camera, battery life & blazing fast, great screen, fingerprint scanner works amazing its really responsive, i was pretty surprised actually at how well the fingerprint scanner works .... Don't care for root to be honest, only thing i really liked about being able to root my old G2 was having AdAway installed. USB-Type-C is a god send especially in dim light.

Camera FTW
LightJak said:
Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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I also love the camera and settings provided on the LG G5. My only disappointment might be the capture time when using HDR mode. Aside from this, the video and picture quality is worthy of this benchmark phone, and the wide angle option adds a new enthusiasm for taking your phone with you on the scenic route.

From South Africa here. I have the H850 G5 as well, and no bloatware whatsoever. Battery lasts me a full day under moderate to heavy use (That does not include the camera). The auto-brightness is on point (but gets a little too low in a dark room to make watching videos or gaming comfortable). Battery charges fully in 28min from 1% whilst turned on. It's blazing fast. I have games in the background that I get back to hours later, and the memory never fails. Best phone I've ever owned.

I like almost everything about this phone minus the flimsy quality of the lcd quoting/Glass as its getting scratched very very easily, same is the case with back camera glass/visor.
Unfortunately, i wasn't using any screen protector earlier and i'd tried to clean the screen with a very soft microfiber cloth but to my surprise even that cloth had left some tiny hairline scratches. I couldn't believe my eyes at first but this was the fact sadly
I am not sure now if i can get rid of these scratches as i really love neat and clean phones.
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I upgraded from an S3 that had been in service since it's release and had never failed me. It just became a bit dated and the battery was due for replacement. I caught the G5 for $1 at Best Buy so I said what the hell. My first unit didn't last 12 hours before dying. However the replacement is on it's 4th charge/discharge cycle and is seamless. I hope that the first unit was just a fluke because this thing hums. I hadn't even tested any other phones since owning the S3 so the speed and fluidity of the G5 blows me away. I cannot wait for rooting capability to customize it even though the factory setup isn't bad and not as restrictive as others I have dealt with in the past. I am giving it 3 stars for now due to the DOA unit I first received though.
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.

I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open

subhani said:
I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.

I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.

I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.

I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
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I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.

It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.

I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.

As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.

what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods

So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.

Geeks Empire said:
what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.

JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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There's an app for the twist camera. Made by the same guy who made ForceDoze.

tobalaz said:
Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.

Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Asus ZenFone 3 Zoom is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I wanted a stable, smooth phone with a super long battery life. This is it!

Coming from the Galaxy Note 3, this phone is an improvement in every way.
Everything except durability.

Just got this phone a few days ago, LOVE IT.
I really like the ZenMotion stuff too, usually I'd have to root to get stuff like that on other devices.

I dumped my old S5 for this phone back in August '17... it's been the best phone that I've owned to date.

Never regretted getting it, I liked the long battery life and it's good photography.

For $300.00 its a Fantastic Device
Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.

georgiapi said:
Coming from a Nexus 5x that broke while out of town on Vacation I swung in to make an emergency replacement purchase @best buy.
It was my 3rd choice as the first two were out of stock. I was just going to pick anything similar in size with capacitive touch buttons. No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
So, being in a hurry I walked out with the Asus Zenfone 3 Zoom which I have never even heard of. I see its marshmallow and I sunk a little but in a few days I was on Oreo. Dang! OK!
Then I read of white line issues so I'm rolling the dice but its a late production model and so far so good since 5/1/2018 of heavy use and several updates.
But.......... Over the 5x - Call quality and signal strength , WiFi reception, and speaker volume screen brightness in the sun all CRUSH the 5x. Battery Life Is Unreal!
I have my complaints over the out dated 5x although they are minor to a degree,
Slower fingerprint reader (sometimes)
Sometimes a back button lag (rarely)
Slippery when carrying naked (I put a Xiaomi Skin on it)
After Oreo if a memory card is inserted the finger print reader gets slower.
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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Holy sh*t, great post man. I dont need a zenfone 3 zoom but i kinda want one for the EPIC RUN TIME(Pocketnow review) lol. If its served you well and you really like why would you already consider replacing it with the pixel 3? Just curious..

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No flagships because I hate them all (Pixel 2 & 2XL, Anything Samsung, too many short comings for today's devices pushing up on the $1000.00 window)
This is going to hold me over while I wait for the Pixel 3, I waited for the OnePlus 6, HTC U12 Plus, and am not impressed. But for $300.00 in the Zenphone 3 Zoom I am.
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May I ask you to elaborate a bit further regarding the above statements? I believe I'm missing something, as my interpretation of them currently, is something like if I said, "I hate anything with nuts in it, peanuts, almonds, cashew, ect... I'll never eat anything made with them in it. BTW, since you didn't wanna share yours earlier, can you grab me a king size, Reese's PB cup and an almond Snickers bar, on your way back? I suddenly got the munchies.."

Heh, You lost me too. Update on the Zenfone 3 Zoom, it got wet and the screen and/or digitizer needs to be replaced. It boots to the pin screen but is unresponsive to touches.
The ONLY 2 complaints I have on the device is when you insert an SDCard in the expansion slot the phone developes lag, especially when unlocking via finger print. This is with a Sandisk Ultra. And like most devices these days its slippery to hold.
Keep in mind I am a google android & nexus fan boy since their releases. Wanting to upgrade from the 5x I was let down by the google pixel price hikes and the newer ones with screen burn and color issues and lousy speakers. Seems Google is getting into greed and feature hype marketing. Yes they have a great camera but who cares. Not me anyway. I'm a semi pro photographer and know whats going on there.
Samsung no unlocking boot loader and root and android butchering. Overpriced and form over function as in being slippery, easy to damage glass, and the wrap around screens most of my friends complain about.
The HTC U12, Dahum! What a monster of a great device but for the BUTTONS! The hardware and features in this phone are the max but they committed suicide by button! I have handled one with the so-called button fix and its still less than sure footed. Enough for me to avoid the purchase.
Oneplus 6, Caugh! Ahem! Back Stroke! Choking on a little Crow, I have one now 8GB RAM - 128GB still within the 15 day trial and have been converted. I love this thing so far. The boot-loader is unlocked, rooted via Magisk running EX Kernel. The device is a performance beast with a great camera.
Yes slippery glass, I have a dbrand dragon skin on it that helps a little, not much, but better, I use their flip case on the job and its great, I chose it over the 6t for the rear FPS & HPjack. I have ear bud sets I don't want to abandon although a USB-c set works via enabling OTG in settings.
Yes coming from the 5x most any new phone is going to be a night and day performance experience but now my upgrade dilemma is over.

Are you happy with this phone?

I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
Thanks
Dan

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I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
Thanks
Dan
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I am happy with it.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Very happy specially the camera

Very happy with mine! Best battery life of any phone I've ever owned and buttery smooth user experience!
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I have had this phone since day one with no issues at all except I took the Verizon deal and got bootloader locked in. The camera is awesome. The pure Android is phenomenal. The screen size and clarity excellent and responsiveness from app to app blows away my work s8 and previous iPhone 8. I've talked a lot of my colleagues into the move to the pixel line due to this pixel 2xl. The fact we get all updates first ensures the longevity of its life cycle and the resale factor is solid.

I love it, screen issues are over blown IMO. With my usage I can get nearly 2 days out of the battery and stock android. Stay away of the 6p, the battery issues are real. I had one for about a year and 3 months and the battery issue reared it's ugly head. Looked for a quality replacement, thought I had found one, took it apart and replaced it myself and was screwed. The original battery was swollen and deformed beyond belief, amazed it had not exploded yet. Replacement batteries for that phone are impossible to find, anything you do find will have issues. The genuine replace I found caused the phone to shut off when using the camera and the phone would not power back on until you plugged it in. Makes camera unusable and phone useless if it shuts off on you and you do not have a cord around. When you get in that situation you find out how few devices really use a usb c at this point ....
Anyways back to your question, Love this phone so far. I also loved my 6p until the battery issue came up and would still be using it if that had not happened. But this is a great upgrade.

I'm very, very, very happy with this astonishing smartphone! :laugh:
Like you, I was a Nexus 6 owner, too, before buying the Pixel 2 XL and, in about 3 years of usage with the N6, in my opinion, after the launch of the new Made by Google family on October 4th, this phone would have been the only real heir and successor of the good old Nexus 6, and my theories have been all confirmed when I've receveid it one month ago

I have a galaxy S8+ and I still use my pixel 2XL as my daily driver. This is my first nexus/pixel device and I could not be happier. The battery life is amazing, their quick charger is far faster than Samsung's. The screen issue, pulled others have said are blown completely out of proportion. I was spazzing out looking to see if my device had "defects". I decided to stay away from the forums and tech blogs I read. And I still to this day have not had any issues with my display. Did I mention the battery life is amazing? The unlockable bootloader is a new thing for me as well. The people that go out of their way to write reviews are more likely to write something if they have a negative experience. I'll lurk the forums to see what's going on. But I usually don't chime in unless I have something of value to contribute. I have the black 128gb. I.would purchase this phone again. I also lol forward to the next generation.

As long as you get one without too much blue tint at angles (screen lottery), then the phone is amazing, especially the camera, pure Android, quick updates, speed.
But I seriously contemplated holding out until next year because my first phone had significantly noticeable blue tint. I traded for a second and the second was much better luckily. Some people have had to trade it in several times before they got a good one

Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.

rrrrrrredbelly said:
I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that. Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.) Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
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Skip the N6P and go straight to the Pixel line- you will experience problems with the N6P, guaranteed. I traded in my bootlooping N6P for a stellar 2XL, with zero issues. What you are hearing/reading is a very vocal minority of ppl who aren't satisfied. Many of the claims are simply unfounded. Great phone, extended 2 year warranty through Google, incredible camera, free unlimited 4k photo/video storage. I understand Verizon has a cut rate deal on their bootloader locked phone but (personally) I would pay the extra money to buy directly through Google and then use it on Verizon. My phones need to be bootloader and carrier unlocked. Your needs may be different. Best of luck.

My Pixel 2 XL just arrived yesterday from Google, I followed Max Lee's guide to root it immediately.
I also have the LG V30 through T-Mobile, and I have to say, the Pixel phone feels laggy in areas. I rooted it right away, so can't say what it felt like stock, but compared to my T-Mobile LG V30 which is bone stock, no root, the V30 feels much smoother and very snappy in comparison. I am actually shocked at how the V30 feels like a nicer phone to be honest, the screen is more vibrant on the V30, the smoothness is faster on the V30. Not sure how that's possible compared to a stock Android phone ? I rooted it for AdAway and Titanium Backup.
Opening the Phone app, or Settings or Messages app, I see a slight lag and jerky animation for a split second, which is NOT there whatsoever on my V30.
And not to be rude, but where are the custom ROM's ? I cannot believe there's not one single custom ROM at all yet released for the Pixel2 XL ? Phone's been out 2 months and zero ROM's ? I owned nearly every Nexus phone, and the first two months there'd be a ton of ROM's and development happening. What's going on?

rrrrrrredbelly said:
I have a N6 on Verizon that is dying and needs to be replaced. I'm debating between this phone or buying a used 6P and hopefully get a year or so out of that.
Reading the real life reviews on the pixel 2XL, seems like there are a lot of issues (I know that's a small sample size.)
Just curious if people would recommend this or holding out.
Thanks
Dan
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We have 3 on family lines and love this phone. Perfect size, very fast, and the clock/date always on display is great.
If you listen to much music, it shows title and artist of most tunes. It's good on battery and charges up fast.
Buy a Google unlockable version if you tinker with your phones, or get a screaming deal at Verizon now if you do not plan to unlock the bootloader.

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Came from an S7 Edge and din't expect much of an upgrade. I was wrong, this phone feels way quicker, lasts twice as long and the camera is truly astonishingly good.
My only complaint is the lack of a headpone jack and a gamma curve causing crushed blacks at minimum/v.low brightness.
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So is blue tooth the only option or is there a adapter to the charging port like the iPhone has?
Thank you all for the feedback

The only complaint that I have with this phone is that I'm too happy with it. Every other phone I've owned has either been locked down or not properly supported, and I've had to undertake the fun projects of unlocking/getting custom roms/ making stuff work/ etc. This phone gives me everything I want. I have no reason to mess with it and if I ever did, unlocking is as easy as "fastboot flashing unlock." That's no fun at all.

I am thrilled with this phone. I knew about the blue shift going in and tested that out at Best BUy and thought it was completely doable. Boy was I wrong, the screen is actually way more than doable. The software is the best Android yet, and I've been on Android since the Nexus 1 phone. Everything works spectacular from the camera to the battery to the buttery smoothness. There are a couple little things I wish worked better but this is by far the closest phone to perfect I've gotten since being an Android user from day 1.

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So is blue tooth the only option or is there a adapter to the charging port like the iPhone has?
Thank you all for the feedback
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It has bluetooth and an adapter like the iphone.

very happy with it
if i wanted a cheaper phone and didn't care about fast/latest/longest SW updates, i would have gotten the OP5T though

Came from a Nexus 6P which was and is an excellent phone but this 2xl is just that little bit better in every department. The camera is utterly stellar, the phone is soo fast plus updates are immediate.. Brilliant brilliant piece of kit:good:

Most excellent device and a perfect upgrade from my Pixel1xl and Nexus6P!