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Has Anyone Bricked the Device on 5.0.2 that manually flashed a factory image?

As the title states, has anyone's 2013 n7 bricked after the 5.0.2 update when flashing a factory image instead of the OTA? Mine bricked after taking the 5.0.1 OTA, but i now have it back from Asus after repair and am wanting to flash the factory image to 5.0.2. However, if anyone has experienced bricking as a result of this (or 5.0.1 or 5.0) being flashed and not just the OTA, which we know is bricking devices, then I will stick with 4.4.4 for now.
Thanks

You can not brick a Nexus 7 unless you somehow screw up the bootloader and can no longer enter the bootloader.

khaytsus said:
You can not brick a Nexus 7 unless you somehow screw up the bootloader and can no longer enter the bootloader.
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Well then some form of that must be happening due to or in very strange coincidence with the 5.0, 5.0.1, and 5.0.2 updates - just ask those of us whose tablets turned off only to turn on and be stuck at the google logo with so far zero solution for fixing it other than a hardware replacement. My tablet was at ASUS's repair factory for almost a month and had the motherboard replaced. This was after a "successful" OTA update to 5.0.1 that worked for a few days and then died. This has happened more than just infrequently to many members on here recently.
So what I would like to know is is anyone experienced the same "successful update" and then a few days later a dead tablet via factory image flashingof 5.0+. We already know that taking the OTA to 5.0+ might be a problem, and before I flash up to 5.0.2 I'd like to hear if anyone did a manual factory image flash and still had the die a few days later issue, despite not going via OTA.

Norcalz71 said:
Well then some form of that must be happening due to or in very strange coincidence with the 5.0, 5.0.1, and 5.0.2 updates - just ask those of us whose tablets turned off only to turn on and be stuck at the google logo with so far zero solution for fixing it other than a hardware replacement. My tablet was at ASUS's repair factory for almost a month and had the motherboard replaced. This was after a "successful" OTA update to 5.0.1 that worked for a few days and then died. This has happened more than just infrequently to many members on here recently.
So what I would like to know is is anyone experienced the same "successful update" and then a few days later a dead tablet via factory image flashingof 5.0+. We already know that taking the OTA to 5.0+ might be a problem, and before I flash up to 5.0.2 I'd like to hear if anyone did a manual factory image flash and still had the die a few days later issue, despite not going via OTA.
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I don't understand the obstinance regarding official LP flashing. OTA has been pulled from the shelf, lots have killed their devices with it, so it's obvious something seriously wrong is going on. I've been flashing CM and other custom roms derived from LP without problems. Why insist on incantations? This is not the first time Asus screws up with its firmwares! LP ain't nothing special that's worth it.

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I don't understand the obstinance regarding official LP flashing. OTA has been pulled from the shelf, lots have killed their devices with it, so it's obvious something seriously wrong is going on. I've been flashing CM and other custom roms derived from LP without problems. Why insist on incantations? This is not the first time Asus screws up with its firmwares! LP ain't nothing special that's worth it.
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So you are saying LP Roms/factory images should be just fine, provided they don't go OTA? I'm sure most are, my concern is if anyone has experienced a failure hours/days after flashing to LP

Norcalz71 said:
So you are saying LP Roms/factory images should be just fine, provided they don't go OTA? I'm sure most are, my concern is if anyone has experienced a failure hours/days after flashing to LP
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Given previous experiences with Asus JB on another model, I'd avoid anything "official" like the plague, and wait till major bugs are swatted. Clearly, I'm not saying "LP Roms/factory images should be just fine." But I've been flashing custom roms based off LP, and nothing out of the ordinary has happened. They work fine. What I don't get is people would insist on flashing the crappy OTAs Asus has been putting out in the face of so much bricking.

Asus doesn't put out updates for the N7; Google does.

Telyx said:
Asus doesn't put out updates for the N7; Google does.
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I don't see the difference. Just because Google funded and marketed the device doesn't make it less Asus. An Asus is an Asus is an Asus, whether you buy it at Staples or in China. I seriously doubt the firmwares are 100% (or 10% for that matter) Google unless one can prove to the world otherwise.

I haven't bricked mine, and I manually updated using the 5.0.1 (and then 5.0.2) image on Google's site. However, I also have an unlocked boot loader (It was unlocked about an hour after we got it home, and hasn't been locked since) and modified /system partition. I have always manually updated the software images from fastboot.

You're saying Asus makes aosp? No. Google makes the software for nexus devices.
Asus assembled the hardware. Google makes the software (aside from proprietary drivers, of which Asus made only audio and "sensors").
Asus has very little to do with the n7 aside from the fact that they put it together.

jshamlet said:
I haven't bricked mine, and I manually updated using the 5.0.1 (and then 5.0.2) image on Google's site. However, I also have an unlocked boot loader (It was unlocked about an hour after we got it home, and hasn't been locked since) and modified /system partition. I have always manually updated the software images from fastboot.
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Mine will remain unlocked from now on. I took it from 4.4.2 back to 4.4.4 (since after repair it was back to original and wiped) via fastboot, and will probably wait awhile longer to update it via fastboot to 5.0.2. No more OTA for me though.

[Q] Confused...

So i'm confused about this whole thing with ROMs and firmware and the Viper One 3.0.0 that was just released.
I've been playing it safe with ROMs, being outdated regularly because "it worked". Probably not the best choice for security reasons, but wiping my phone and reinstalling the OS, restoring all the apps, is time consuming and something I try to avoid doing as much as possible.
So Saturday I upgraded my phone from 1.9.1 of Viper One M9 to 2.3.0, then took the OTA to 2.3.1. Previously I installed 1.9.1 and a week later 2.0.0 came out. So I waited until this weekend to finally go to 2.x.x. In a mean twist of fate, less than 24 hours later I'd find that Viper One M9 3.0.0 is out. So no matter what I try to do it seems I'm in for perpetual upgrades, wiping and reinstalling the OS, restoring apps, etc.
So here's my questions:
1. Do I actually need to install any firmwares for this? I see dottat's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/official-ruu-1-33-605-15-t3137397 and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to install that first. My instinct is "no" but I would like to verify that before I try to go to 3.0.0.
2. If it's not required, is it at least optional? If so, what benefits are we aware of that the new firmware will fix? I get the impression that the firmware update isn't truly supported with Viper One M9 since the firmware hasn't been officially released, nor was it unofficially released before the compiled 3.0.0 build was released.
3. How "official" is the 1.33.605.15 that I just linked above? Is it 100% for sure going to be the next release and we're just waiting for it to be pushed out as an OTA update? When I had my Droid Bionic we had something like 20+ "unofficial" builds of ICS that were leaked early, and ultimately the one that was released OTA was 3 or 4 versions behind what was the 'latest'. Definitely created problems for some people and not looking to see that happen to me.
4. When I do an upgrade of Viper One, I normally do the full wipe and then have to restore the apps with titanium backup, then the SMS messages that I have with another app, resetup the icons on my screens, resetup the viper settings, etc. Takes me basically a full day to re-test and re-setup everything how I like it. Is there a better way that doesn't take all day? I'd prefer to be on the latest, but with the constant restoring I'm pretty much always behind because I don't have the 8+ hours it takes to resetup my phone exactly how I want it every time an update comes out. I've heard the non-wiping is not recommended, so I've never tried that. Is it actually safe and effective?
5. Anyone using 3.0.0 and having any problems or comments?
In case anyone asks, the phone is s-off, rooted, etc by the mighty dottat with his Java card.
Thanks,
-Josh

Joshy8 said:
So i'm confused about this whole thing with ROMs and firmware and the Viper One 3.0.0 that was just released.
I've been playing it safe with ROMs, being outdated regularly because "it worked". Probably not the best choice for security reasons, but wiping my phone and reinstalling the OS, restoring all the apps, is time consuming and something I try to avoid doing as much as possible.
So Saturday I upgraded my phone from 1.9.1 of Viper One M9 to 2.3.0, then took the OTA to 2.3.1. Previously I installed 1.9.1 and a week later 2.0.0 came out. So I waited until this weekend to finally go to 2.x.x. In a mean twist of fate, less than 24 hours later I'd find that Viper One M9 3.0.0 is out. So no matter what I try to do it seems I'm in for perpetual upgrades, wiping and reinstalling the OS, restoring apps, etc. [emoji14]
So here's my questions:
1. Do I actually need to install any firmwares for this? I see dottat's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/official-ruu-1-33-605-15-t3137397 and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to install that first. My instinct is "no" but I would like to verify that before I try to go to 3.0.0.
2. If it's not required, is it at least optional? If so, what benefits are we aware of that the new firmware will fix? I get the impression that the firmware update isn't truly supported with Viper One M9 since the firmware hasn't been officially released, nor was it unofficially released before the compiled 3.0.0 build was released.
3. How "official" is the 1.33.605.15 that I just linked above? Is it 100% for sure going to be the next release and we're just waiting for it to be pushed out as an OTA update? When I had my Droid Bionic we had something like 20+ "unofficial" builds of ICS that were leaked early, and ultimately the one that was released OTA was 3 or 4 versions behind what was the 'latest'. Definitely created problems for some people and not looking to see that happen to me.
4. When I do an upgrade of Viper One, I normally do the full wipe and then have to restore the apps with titanium backup, then the SMS messages that I have with another app, resetup the icons on my screens, resetup the viper settings, etc. Takes me basically a full day to re-test and re-setup everything how I like it. Is there a better way that doesn't take all day? I'd prefer to be on the latest, but with the constant restoring I'm pretty much always behind because I don't have the 8+ hours it takes to resetup my phone exactly how I want it every time an update comes out. I've heard the non-wiping is not recommended, so I've never tried that. Is it actually safe and effective?
5. Anyone using 3.0.0 and having any problems or comments?
In case anyone asks, the phone is s-off, rooted, etc by the mighty dottat with his Java card.
Thanks,
-Josh
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There's newer firmware out. Look in neo's 5.1 deodex thread. That os is also 5.1 (rom).
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LOL! So it is! I saw it last night and somehow I screwed up and linked to your thread. Hooray for tired long days.

1. You do need to update your firmware to 2.6.605.10 before installing ViperOneM9 3.0.0, or you will most likely see a bootloop or have other issues.
2. ViperOneM9 3.0.0 was based on the 2.6.605.10 firmware that is posted in NEO's thread. Bottom line is that you should be on that firmware before flashing viper.
3. The 2.6.605.10 firmware is official, but prerelease, and it is very likely not the final version that will be released when the FOTA is pushed out to the public. You can just flash the firmware of the final release version when that is released, so you don't need to worry about being ahead/behind the release version.
4. On ViperOneM9, there is no reason to do a full wipe unless you are coming from another ROM. If you read the thread, you will see that the developers and most of the people around there haven't done a clean flash since their first flash of viper. Make a backup before flashing, and you can always revert to that if you have an issue when you dirty flash.
5. 3.0.0 is working great. No reason not to update.

Thanks for the response bschram. It is appreciated.
I actually wiped my phone and installed 3.0.0 without updating the firmware. Phone still works fine, but I will be updating the firmware as soon as I am confident I know what I'm doing with firmware upgrades. I'm a bit more nervous about updating firmware as I don't want to break the phone.
I'm glad to hear that I don't have to do a full wipe, and I'll definitely be doing that going forward. I will say that 3.0.0 is way more reliable than 1.9.1 was.

Just to make sure I am doing things correctly.... I am not totally new to this. Coming from stock 5.0.2... with S-off/Bootloader Unlocked. Flash firmware from NEO's deodexed rom in fastboot, advanced wipe in TWRP, then flash any 5.1 rom that is compatible IC, Viper, ect.... Then we should be good to go?
Then when offical OTA arrives, wait until firmware is pulled then flash the same way? Just making sure I will doing things right..... Thanks in advance

bschram said:
1. You do need to update your firmware to 2.6.605.10 before installing ViperOneM9 3.0.0, or you will most likely see a bootloop or have other issues.
2. ViperOneM9 3.0.0 was based on the 2.6.605.10 firmware that is posted in NEO's thread. Bottom line is that you should be on that firmware before flashing viper.
3. The 2.6.605.10 firmware is official, but prerelease, and it is very likely not the final version that will be released when the FOTA is pushed out to the public. You can just flash the firmware of the final release version when that is released, so you don't need to worry about being ahead/behind the release version.
4. On ViperOneM9, there is no reason to do a full wipe unless you are coming from another ROM. If you read the thread, you will see that the developers and most of the people around there haven't done a clean flash since their first flash of viper. Make a backup before flashing, and you can always revert to that if you have an issue when you dirty flash.
5. 3.0.0 is working great. No reason not to update.
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Came in a bit late to the m9 threads. Is the losing VOLTE thing still a thing or was that earlier builds and firmwares? My phone is attached to my work account so it's big pain to talk with actual verizon and i've been hesitant on flashing roms. Not asking for gaurantees, i get the risk, just wondering if that is still going on.

teckels said:
Came in a bit late to the m9 threads. Is the losing VOLTE thing still a thing or was that earlier builds and firmwares? My phone is attached to my work account so it's big pain to talk with actual verizon and i've been hesitant on flashing roms. Not asking for gaurantees, i get the risk, just wondering if that is still going on.
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It's never been 100% understood why this has happened. It isn't specific to any ROM, I think someone on stock rooted ROM had this issue happen. Once you S-OFF you will be at risk, as far I am aware.

andybones said:
It's never been 100% understood why this has happened. It isn't specific to any ROM, I think someone on stock rooted ROM had this issue happen. Once you S-OFF you will be at risk, as far I am aware.
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Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.

Tommydorns said:
Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.
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Thiss I am not too sure of, but I don't think too many.

Tommydorns said:
Is it a common thing or has it only happened to one or two people.
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Me and one or two others. I have my suspicions as to what caused it and the casual crack rom flasher likely won't fall victim to it.
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Hi guys.Your Suggestion is very much appreciated. (Updating to Nougat before anythin)

Hi there Guys. GoodDay. I just wanna ask. I recently bought Nexus 5x. And i see nougat is ready for update. But before that Ive found out on internet that some users that updated from MM to Nougat got stuck on bootloop and seems they cant figured it out i dont know if its model related(h791/h798). Google Employee says hardware. Here 's a qoute of a report. from androidauthority website.
"We’ve been hearing an increasing number of reports from Nexus 5X owners about bootloop issues after upgrading to Android 7.0 Nougat.
Many folks have been claiming that, after installing the Android 7.0 Nougat OTA, their Nexus 5X devices would unexpectedly crash and begin to randomly reboot after a few hours, or even days, of use. Some users say downgrading to Android 6.0 Marshmallow does the trick, while others say reflashing the Android 7.0 Nougat September update fixes the problem. Most people, unfortunately, have yet to find a good fix for the problem.
So if you run into this issue, what should you do?
Orrin, a Google employee, had this to say in the Nexus Help Forums:
We understand that a very small number of users are experiencing a bootloop issue on the Nexus 5X. We are continuing to investigate the situation, but can confirm that this is strictly a hardware related issue. For those of you that are currently experiencing this, please contact your place of purchase for warranty or repair options.
We’re sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate your continued patience."
Im afraid that if i update via OTA just like them. chances it might or might not happen to me. and if did, can a tool like Wugfresh' NRT save it? or should i root and manually update to nougat via some toolkit or manually, is it safer? Thank You very much for your suggestions.
BtW: im on
LG H791 Android 6.0
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Security Patch Oct.1,2015

ryuhagaming said:
Hi there Guys. GoodDay. I just wanna ask. I recently bought Nexus 5x. And i see nougat is ready for update. But before that Ive found out on internet that some users that updated from MM to Nougat got stuck on bootloop and seems they cant figured it out i dont know if its model related(h791/h798). Google Employee says hardware. Here 's a qoute of a report. from androidauthority website.
"We’ve been hearing an increasing number of reports from Nexus 5X owners about bootloop issues after upgrading to Android 7.0 Nougat.
Many folks have been claiming that, after installing the Android 7.0 Nougat OTA, their Nexus 5X devices would unexpectedly crash and begin to randomly reboot after a few hours, or even days, of use. Some users say downgrading to Android 6.0 Marshmallow does the trick, while others say reflashing the Android 7.0 Nougat September update fixes the problem. Most people, unfortunately, have yet to find a good fix for the problem.
So if you run into this issue, what should you do?
Orrin, a Google employee, had this to say in the Nexus Help Forums:
We understand that a very small number of users are experiencing a bootloop issue on the Nexus 5X. We are continuing to investigate the situation, but can confirm that this is strictly a hardware related issue. For those of you that are currently experiencing this, please contact your place of purchase for warranty or repair options.
We’re sorry for the inconvenience and appreciate your continued patience."
Im afraid that if i update via OTA just like them. chances it might or might not happen to me. and if did, can a tool like Wugfresh' NRT save it? or should i root and manually update to nougat via some toolkit or manually, is it safer? Thank You very much for your suggestions.
BtW: im on
LG H791 Android 6.0
Build MDA89E
Security Patch Oct.1,2015
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Wouldn't you rather it boot loop now then later when it's no longer covered under warranty?
Boot loop is a hardware issue that becomes exposed during the install process. You gain nothing by waiting and the same thing could be triggered every time the device is rebooted.
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Did you update? I'm in the exact same situation, afraid to update because I just got my phone from amazon and it's running Marshmallow...same model as yours. H791 I don't know if I even have a warranty for it

I suggest you update because it is possible that you might not have that hardware issue, I bought mine a month back and hadn't read any forums or anywhere online about the bootloop. I updated right when I got the phone to android 7.0 xD and my phone has been fine since.

sickofusernames said:
Did you update? I'm in the exact same situation, afraid to update because I just got my phone from amazon and it's running Marshmallow...same model as yours. H791 I don't know if I even have a warranty for it
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Yeah, ive managed to successfully update it to nougat including the latest build 7.0.1. i think there is just some certain phone that are affected. just see to it that your bootloader is unlock before you update. just in case, you can still go to your recovery.

X3NOM said:
I suggest you update because it is possible that you might not have that hardware issue, I bought mine a month back and hadn't read any forums or anywhere online about the bootloop. I updated right when I got the phone to android 7.0 xD and my phone has been fine since.
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wow. that's nice :good:

ryuhagaming said:
Yeah, ive managed to successfully update it to nougat including the latest build 7.0.1. i think there is just some certain phone that are affected. just see to it that your bootloader is unlock before you update. just in case, you can still go to your recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, it gave me the courage to just do it! So far so good, no issues

Just got a new Nexus 5x

Just ordered a new Nexus 5x a few days ago should be here soon. It'll probably still have Marshmallow on it. Should I only flash custom ROMs. Immediately to avoid bootloop issues u have been hearing about? I'm confused because it seems that the OTA or preview edition was causing this not custom ROMs.

To me, it depends what you want to do with your device.
For me, I downloaded the latest 6.X and flashed manually. Relocked the BL and enrolled in Android beta program. Then let the OTA 7.1.1 come down to upgrade the device so I continue to get updates, including upgrade to production release down the road.

mikeprius said:
Just ordered a new Nexus 5x a few days ago should be here soon. It'll probably still have Marshmallow on it. Should I only flash custom ROMs. Immediately to avoid bootloop issues u have been hearing about? I'm confused because it seems that the OTA or preview edition was causing this not custom ROMs.
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More signs point to hardware failure rather than the update. I think it was just coincidence that 7.0 came out when phones were getting close to 1 year old. I've been running my replacement from last month on 7.1 beta and it's just fine.
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Ezekial said:
To me, it depends what you want to do with your device.
For me, I downloaded the latest 6.X and flashed manually. Relocked the BL and enrolled in Android beta program. Then let the OTA 7.1.1 come down to upgrade the device so I continue to get updates, including upgrade to production release down the road.
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So you have just been flashing new images manually? For me I don't care about the newest version I sill am using Marshmallow on my Nexus 6. I prefer customization so I'm going to unlock, TWRP, custom ROM etc........ I just want to potentially avoid any of the bootloop issues I have been hearing about.
It sounds like there was never a definitive conclusion as to why it was happening only with Nougat

mikeprius said:
So you have just been flashing new images manually? For me I don't care about the newest version I sill am using Marshmallow on my Nexus 6. I prefer customization so I'm going to unlock, TWRP, custom ROM etc........ I just want to potentially avoid any of the bootloop issues I have been hearing about.
It sounds like there was never a definitive conclusion as to why it was happening only with Nougat
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Gotcha. I have only had my 5x for just over a month so not the most knowledgeable. My take is largely the same as the other guy, failures are from hardware or just bloat from long term use.
I start with the latest 6 and considered staying on it for root, xPosed, etc. I have always ran this way for years. But it is super annoying not having Android pay and a few other things. I sucked it up and decided to try not rooting or even unlocking BL. There are things I miss but I am staying locked down for now. The primary issue I have is for tethering, which I cannot do. The rest I have surprisingly been able to do without.

Flash away
Hey mate, you will not have issues flashing what ever you like, issues are caused by hardware failures ( unavoidable ) or just not following instructions correctly. I flash factory images, beta etc, and custom ROMs. Never have issues. Flash like crazy. It's just a phone and almost all of them can be fixed, if something goes wrong.
P.s. You gotta try the 7.1.1 beta. Its has potential.

shall i update firmwares?

Hi guys, I just bought a brand new note 10+ N975W (canada version). I'm on stock firmware. It keep asking me to update. Shall I update? which version is best to keep the battery last as long as possible?
Also, can i downgrade to previous versions or stock if i dont like the upgraded firmware?

Yes update. It's probably just security updates at this point, so there would be no reason to go back. The Note 10 firmware is fairly mature by now.

chances are if you bought it recently it is already an updated firmware unless the store is running really old stock, as they tend to produce the devices with the latest firmware at the time of manufacture. basically you would need to find a phone that was manufactured before any updates to get the original stock firmware.
chances are any phone produced this year likely has Android 10 pre installed instead of Android 9 and a much more recent security patch, so in that case you may as well update the phone as it is already updated to an extent.
as for downgrading to an actual launch firmware it's not possible as every so often they make a change that can't be reversed so it stops you going to an older firmware (I know it happend with both Android 10 and the One UI update, there are likely more points)
but in terms of battery use, everyone's numbers will differ no matter the firmware as a lot of it comes down to settings, what its used for and the environment it is ran in.

Belimawr said:
chances are if you bought it recently it is already an updated firmware unless the store is running really old stock, as they tend to produce the devices with the latest firmware at the time of manufacture. basically you would need to find a phone that was manufactured before any updates to get the original stock firmware.
chances are any phone produced this year likely has Android 10 pre installed instead of Android 9 and a much more recent security patch, so in that case you may as well update the phone as it is already updated to an extent.
as for downgrading to an actual launch firmware it's not possible as every so often they make a change that can't be reversed so it stops you going to an older firmware (I know it happend with both Android 10 and the One UI update, there are likely more points)
but in terms of battery use, everyone's numbers will differ no matter the firmware as a lot of it comes down to settings, what its used for and the environment it is ran in.
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my phone is still running on android 9.0.

aznboix said:
my phone is still running on android 9.0.
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Since the phone is new. Before getting to far into configuration, run the update, then do a factory reset. It'll do a fresh install of Android 10 and any security updates.
That will give you a nice clean install you can then setup.
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You should always update. They are mostly Security Updates, these are for security reasons (Hence the name ). Yeah there are some system modifications and enhancements too but the main reason is to ensure the device is as secure as possible

Is there a custom firmware that works perfectly?
can i root my device?
can i flash to another firmware? Asia firmware for exemple
what are the apps that i can't miss on note 10+?
which firmware that has vietnamese language?
thanks