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HTC One X mobile-review.com review

looks like a review is up, although it will need translating

Chrome translated the review for me. Here's the meat of the conclusion:
It's time to take stock, and, unfortunately, in many ways I have to admit that the HTC One X turned out not the way this unit is pictured in person I am. What I wanted to see the new flagship of HTC as a user and fan of the brand? First, the significant improvement of the camera, and such changes are announced by the company. According to the pattern that was in my arms, I can say that the quality of the camera HTC One X not only departed from previous models of the manufacturer, but in some ways even became worse. Secondly, I would like to see a new flagship has become more flexible and open, in the sense that buying a phone for 30,000 rubles, I would have received at the hands of high-quality and highly customizable tool. However, HTC One X is not a trivial slot for memory card, so that the flagship is limited to 25 gigabytes, is used here is still not the most common format microSIM, which also adds a smartphone points. Thirdly, HTC over the summer last year, trained their users to the fact that if the body is smart and Beats Audio is 30,000 rubles, the kit you will find the just-like-quality headphones from the Beats. Here, it is not.
Of course, the smartphone has many strengths, without thinking it is an excellent display, quality plastic and, to my taste, just a gorgeous, fresh design vehicle for the company. In addition, we should not discount the HTC Sense 4.0, although the interface is the company "better" is not quite clear, it still remains the strongest link in the company's products, giving users a convenient box of HTC phones to make calls, e-mail and much more.
With all of the above disadvantages, I must honestly admit that I like HTC One X. First of all, its design (talking about the device in white), second - still comfortable Sense, and the third - the fact that the aggregate of qualities, this little smartphone stands out from the dozens of Android-repetitive clones. Simply put, I see the sparkle in it, there is a sense that it put the soul, and let's turned into such a controversial product. But if we try to answer the question, I would have bought a HTC One X, or wait a Samsung Galaxy S III - the answer is unambiguous, we must wait for the flagship of the Samsung and then draw conclusions. The new flagship of HTC's success with some points of view, but others turned out to be not good enough, this machine feels the potential, but the company failed to disclose to the end. I would like to make it like a fairy tale, HTC have taken into account the problems and errors with the release of One X (no memory card slots, frankly Camera Raw, I do not know what was going on in the module itself, or in software) and then offered to users an updated version of, say, HTC One X2 or something like that. But is it possible in today's world of commerce and endless racing technology?

Ouch :-( That doesn't sound too positive..

Using google translate the conclusion seems to be:
Bad
- Camera is worse than he expected and in his opinion worse than some previous models
- No SDCard slot
- Micro SIM
- No Beats
Good
- Excellent Display
- Quality Plastic
- Gorgeous Fresh Design
- Sense 4.0
He likes the phone but feels HTC just missed the mark slightly. He would need to wait for the SG3 specs before making a decision. He hopes for a HTC One X2 with the bad points fixed.

Indeed.
I will really consider if to return this phone or keep it

Stif-Meister said:
Ouch :-( That doesn't sound too positive..
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I actually think its quite positive. If you look at the bad points then we have known about 3 of them for a long time. For the camera part we have hamdir who will guide us on how to optimise it from a usage point and then we have a lot of dev's who will hopefully be able to tweak it. Also this is just one persons view.
Also I noticed he stated the battery was ok no better or worse than other android devices and he stated "When watching a video of the charge lasts for 4-6 hours, depending on the quality of the preview clip, and the selected level of brightness." Which seems ok to me.

Most of the bads aren't a surprise and therefore not bad to me. But if the camera is bad, then there is really something wrong, since the camera is supposed to be one the biggest selling points. And if it isn't great, I will return the One X that I expect to receive in a few days.
But I really hope it isn't true...

i don't really think micro sim, no memory slot, and no beats headphones should really be counted so negatively. the camera is another thing, though. i still want one because i already know the quality of Samsung software and source code, which is bad.

i'm hoping for an engadget or techradar review monday, those are my go too sites for mobile phone reviews.

Bought the phone mostly for the camera, hopefully software updates can improve it
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He also notes that he was on preproduction firmware (which may imply preproduction hardware), and notes that while there was no flex or creak initially, that after a week or so he could move the screen about a millimeter by pressing down in the middle of the left edge, as shown in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-CYNDfd6c
That's pretty alarming, and I hope limited to being a preproduction quirk.
Oh, and he says that he couldn't register multitouch beyond two fingers in any test app, although he knows that a three-fingered swipe starts the remote video function. Hope implementing that function doesn't prevent three-fingered touch, because I use at least one app that specifically needs three-fingered touch to pan.
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HTC-Gunge said:
- Camera is worse than he expected and in his opinion worse than some previous models
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I don't see if he mentions his settings, but his photos are noticeably, significantly less sharp than we've seen from users here.

Let's not forget that if phones came out the box perfect and problem-free, we wouldn't be here on XDA!
Half the fun is going to be identifying the flaws and working on setting them right.
Regardless of how the forthcoming reviews turn out, I think the One X is going to be a solid platform to do that on, and is going to have massive amounts of support and development here.
Bring on full root, s-off and kernel source code!

I'm starting to think his pre-production firmware may nullify much of his review. Just tried the video samples after they took forever to download, and both seem to show extreme frame dropping.

The google translate is not superb, I didn't understand a thing about speaker volume for ringtones nor the screen under sunlight performance

vegetaleb said:
The google translate is not superb, I didn't understand a thing about speaker volume for ringtones nor the screen under sunlight performance
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Oh, that was another of his complaints; if I read correctly he said the screen is too glossy.

knoxploration said:
He also notes that he was on preproduction firmware (which may imply preproduction hardware), and notes that while there was no flex or creak initially, that after a week or so he could move the screen about a millimeter by pressing down in the middle of the left edge, as shown in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-CYNDfd6c
That's pretty alarming, and I hope limited to being a preproduction quirk.
Oh, and he says that he couldn't register multitouch beyond two fingers in any test app, although he knows that a three-fingered swipe starts the remote video function. Hope implementing that function doesn't prevent three-fingered touch, because I use at least one app that specifically needs three-fingered touch to pan.
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I don't see if he mentions his settings, but his photos are noticeably, significantly less sharp than we've seen from users here.
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For the multi touch, I can tell you there is an option in the settings which allows the phone to register more than 2 simultaneous touches. It registered all my 10 fingers, though it was hard to put them all on the screen and move them around
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It seems that HD video reproduction is not fluid, only with low bitrates. That's a HUGE turndown, for me.

Unless I've misread the translations, The only main bad point is the camera & in all videos & test shots I've seen - the camera is great!
What a stupid review.
No micro SD slot - Google has already stated they want it done this way, as external sd slots actually cause problems & slow the device down. (HTC are offering dropbox as a compromise too)
Micro sim - i notice it wasn't a bad point when apple did it. (apparently micro sims will become the norm for everyone in future devices anyway)
Basically, they loved the screen, speed, sense & design yet still thought up some rubbish to put a negative spin on the review.
Talking of the SGS3 to see how this device compares? - who the hell does that? - the sgs3 is still just an idea, a prototype hasn't even been introduced yet & no device should ever be judged on another device, a review is supposed to be of this device, & this device alone.
Forgive me if I pay no attention to this 'review'
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chrisjcks said:
Unless I've misread the translations, The only main bad point is the camera & in all videos & test shots I've seen - the camera is great!
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You've misread the review. He criticized quite a few things, but most of them seem to be either user error, or likely related to the fact he didn't have final firmware.
One thing stands out as alarming, though. He noted that on his sample, within just a week the gorilla glass section of the case had come loose from the unibody, and could move up and down by around a millimeter when pressed.
There's a video making the problem clearly visible; hopefully it's just a handmade preproduction body that doesn't have the same tolerances as a final release product.
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KRiZ-R said:
For the multi touch, I can tell you there is an option in the settings which allows the phone to register more than 2 simultaneous touches. It registered all my 10 fingers, though it was hard to put them all on the screen and move them around
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Yep, thanks, I also see this myself in Ben86's videos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24324823#post24324823
Either it was user error on the reviewer's part, or his preproduction firmware lacked the feature.

knoxploration said:
One thing stands out as alarming, though. He noted that on his sample, within just a week the gorilla glass section of the case had come loose from the unibody, and could move up and down by around a millimeter when pressed.
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Yes I saw that, but I've never heard of this from anyone else, not even on demo units & HTC couldn't afford for this to happen on mass production.
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Honestly, the S3 is my first Android device. Before this I had an iPhone 4 and before that an iPhone 3GS.
Things that I love about my Galaxy S3?
Google Navigation and maps, and the blinking LED, which I find incredibly useful!
Things I miss about iOS? My Shure earphones with mic / volume control don't work with the Sammie S3. Also, believe it or not, I miss iMessage.
But the ability to customize Android takes the cake. I used to jailbreak my Apple all the time... Even without rooting or switching to a custom ROM, the flexibility of Android is outstanding!
I'm LOVING the S3!!!!

I am also loving my S3. I was gonna hold of on the note 2 but have a nexus 7 and didn't really want a phone that big. Really wish the US S3 had the quad core though

Apple strikes again - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEy2u2n_XTQ
They've actually GOT the patent GRANTED.

I have been an android user for several years now. I have been burning roms for my Inspire 4G with regularity. Now I have an s3 and I love it just the way it is. Although I couldn't resist rooting and adding CWM.
My employer makes me carry a iphone 4s for mail and phone purposes. After growing accustomed to touchdown, I really feel handicapped by the built in exchange support apple gave me. It sucks quite simply.
Tonight I got an email from our IT department telling me to not use my phone to respond to any meeting invitation as it could delete the invite for ALL recipients. I must wait for Apple to release an update for ios 6.
What I detest about the iPhone? The store- I have to enter my password each time. Tiny screen, crappy auto-correct, no back button. What do I like? Delete mail animation.
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What model Shure's are you using?
Would love to hear what kind of setup you had with the iphone and now the GS3. Can't help you with the volume, but you can get a cable with a mic. Lol. But seriously, when I'm listening to music I don't want a mic, I don't think I'd use the volume but if i could advance a song that would be nice.
Current setup:
Shure SE315, paid version Equilizer and fiio E6 portable amplifier. (fx music off) I can rock and I'm about to really upgrade.
If you don't have your Shure's running through a portable amplifier, your missing out.
Thanks
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thanks!

G-Man. said:
Apple strikes again - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEy2u2n_XTQ
They've actually GOT the patent GRANTED.
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This is just disgusting.....

Loving my Galaxy s III (i747)
I was going to stick with my GS2 but finally caved and upgraded to the Galaxy SIII (i747). I still miss the size of the GS2 (fit better in my hand), but the features (screen clarity, camera app, motion features, etc) on the GS3 are amazing. After 4 months of running stock, I finally went on a flashing spree and have finally settled on Ariel 2.10 ICS Stock/Moded ROM.

GS3 vs iPhone
I've always been an Android user and the GS3 is by far the best. My wife, due to following trend, insisted on having an iPhone 4S. After her and I doing a side by side comparison, she wishes she had gone with a GS3 as well. I enjoy flashing, rooting, customizing, and getting under the hood of my devices. It is interesting to see that Apple has played catch up on iPhone 5. It will also be interesting to see how their reputation continues to hold up within the next few years with their attempts to dominate the market through litigation.

Anyone check out the Xperia Ion? My mom had gotten it yesterday and said she didn't like it. The phone has a 12MP camera, but in my opinion that's the only good feature. The shape of the phone itself (big square with a rounded back) makes it uncomfortable to hold. The speaker is horrible. You have to hold the phone to your ear to hear things from the speaker. Software wise it isn't terrible. They give you a good amount of theme options straight out of the box.
Stock ICS on my S3

much mminemp
the i5 has better drop test results then the s3 they need to make more sturdy phones

My first android was the S2 SR. The phone was perfect save for the music player, I just couldn't find one I liked so I just tote my iPhone 4 around for music. Apple makes good music players but that's where it ends for me. Since I've used Android, iOS just doesn't cut it for me and I probably won't ever use another iPhone as a primary phone again.
Stock ICS on my S3

S3 Better than iPhone 5
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the i5 has better drop test results then the s3 they need to make more sturdy phones
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the S3 has a curvy feeling with being thin rather than boxy which is where it makes the sides and enclosure of the gs3 as a whole weaker.
If it was a box like the iPhone 5 it'd be better enclosure-wise yes...but than not as many people would love the s3
sly-tendencies said:
Anyone check out the Xperia Ion? My mom had gotten it yesterday and said she didn't like it. The phone has a 12MP camera, but in my opinion that's the only good feature. The shape of the phone itself (big square with a rounded back) makes it uncomfortable to hold. The speaker is horrible. You have to hold the phone to your ear to hear things from the speaker. Software wise it isn't terrible. They give you a good amount of theme options straight out of the box.
Stock ICS on my S3
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The Ion isn't too bad but I agree on the shape. Xperia's interface doesn't flow as well as TouchWiz does at all. Media-wise yes it's great but otherwise it doesn't
appeal as nicely as the s3 would. Xperia rooting also is more of a pain than samsung has ever been. Their camea's megapixel is higher, and always has been but
I dont see it being the solid reason to get one.

I started with the Blackberry Bold, then went with a cheap Windows Phone for a while, and now have the Galaxy S3. First time Android owner here.
I think I will grow to love Android. My first impression was that, out of the box, my Windows Phone was better. It felt quicker and did the things I wanted to better. I absolutely LOVE how much customization is available for Android phones, though, so I have a feeling that I will definitely love this phone, once I've tinkered around with it.

So when does Samsung think it'll be right to let all of us android virgins in on some of their secrets? Here's one of my favorites - No app to sd UNLESS the app is "at least 1 gig in size" (so why sell the device with the external sd slot?)
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paws61 said:
So when does Samsung think it'll be right to let all of us android virgins in on some of their secrets? Here's one of my favorites - No app to sd UNLESS the app is "at least 1 gig in size" (so why sell the device with the external sd slot?)
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lol, I know when I was doing research on the s3, I found a custom rom that would switch the interal and external sd cards

Oh yeah? Will you share, please? I'm not rooted - yet. Thinking I'll wait until my factory warranty is up - then again...
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Well said. My first smarty was blackberry - no joke - I thought I was made, man. Then HTC Inspire blew my socks off. In a couple months I was up for an upgrade. Did my research and got the powerful sgs3. OMG and all that! But now I'm sooo bummed. No sd recognition other than memory capacity. Sammy says it's just the way they made it. When I said their promotions didn't reveal the fact that there was no "app2sd" capability UNLESS the app used 1g+ (I found that tidbit out only days ago), the response was something close to 'sorry about your luck.'
I dunno how this looks to others, but I feel that the sgs3 was misrepresented. Whether deliberately or not, that's not my issue. I'm no dev or geek, so when you sell me on the monster memory, unequaled personalization, and myriad other bells n whistles, I'm gonna expect that ability. But don't tell me it's mine with an after-the-fact 'btw just the phone and some of its power are yours; you'll never be the 'administrator' unless you wanna void our warranty... ' I'm just saying...
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paws61 said:
Oh yeah? Will you share, please? I'm not rooted - yet. Thinking I'll wait until my factory warranty is up - then again...
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Well said. My first smarty was blackberry - no joke - I thought I was made, man. Then HTC Inspire blew my socks off. In a couple months I was up for an upgrade. Did my research and got the powerful sgs3. OMG and all that! But now I'm sooo bummed. No sd recognition other than memory capacity. Sammy says it's just the way they made it. When I said their promotions didn't reveal the fact that there was no "app2sd" capability UNLESS the app used 1g+ (I found that tidbit out only days ago), the response was something close to 'sorry about your luck.'
I dunno how this looks to others, but I feel that the sgs3 was misrepresented. Whether deliberately or not, that's not my issue. I'm no dev or geek, so when you sell me on the monster memory, unequaled personalization, and myriad other bells n whistles, I'm gonna expect that ability. But don't tell me it's mine with an after-the-fact 'btw just the phone and some of its power are yours; you'll never be the 'administrator' unless you wanna void our warranty... ' I'm just saying...
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Stop crying about apps to sd-card here is what you need : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849857

I hear this is the place to ask so, I'll take a swing. SG3 vs HTC OX+? I'll be picking one up tomorrow. I've read the reviews. Each seems to have pros and cons. The HTC is much faster, the SG3 has a memory card slot, removable battery, and a bigger support base. I'm hoping for some real world input please..

Why I don't want anymore HTC

I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this brand. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymore HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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Robotukas said:
I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this phone. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymoy HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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For me this points are really useless points.
I just ask a question. Do you even want to control your phone with your eye?
Or want a laggy TW?
May only the updates is really slow, but nothing other.
Samsung in your hand feel like a plastic toy phone. The HTC in your hand feel like a boss.
So I think this ponit are only matters for children. Sorry, but this is true.
The only bad ponit for HOX or other HTC phones is the support.
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Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.

Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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miHah said:
Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.
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Of course I agree. Thing that I discovered, that I was using HTC products for more than 2 years. But I didn't see that phone is getting better. Plus, they made some restrictions. I thought that I can use in business and for casual. But I can see, I can give this phone to child, where he can play with phone and always keep charging. If I will start use all HTC futeres, so I need a battery bank. Do you buy car which 40 litres petrol for 50 miles? When you can buy better car and it uses less petrol.
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miHah said:
Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.
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One thing about me. I like technologies and I like watch how they progress. In beginning HTC made a lot good stuff, but for now I don't see advantages.
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Robotukas said:
Of course I agree. Thing that I discovered, that I was using HTC products for more than 2 years. But I didn't see that phone is getting better. Plus, they made some restrictions. I thought that I can use in business and for casual. But I can see, I can give this phone to child, where he can play with phone and always keep charging. If I will start use all HTC futeres, so I need a battery bank. Do you buy car which 40 litres petrol for 50 miles? When you can buy better car and it uses less petrol.
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I don't really know what you are talking about
If you think you will be happier with Samsung or any other phone, go ahead. I am not here to stop you.
All I want to say is: good luck with some other phone than HTC and I hope battery will last longer for you and you will be pleased to use gestures on your phone. It is not like any major science or usability about that for me. I could download software that is similar but why? I am pleased with what my phone can do and there is nothing about other phones that can do something completely new that would blow my mind.
About the cars.. than on your opinion Fiat 500 (or something you like) is better than ..lets say.. Aston Martin Vanquish? Because it uses less petrol?
It is ok if you think so, but people have different opinions about everything. Have that in mind!
Have a nice day deciding what to do next
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Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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Yea, and HOX and S4 are made at exact same time and are both same years devices? Ofcourse there are differences! What would be the point having multiple high-end phone brands if all were the same.

I also don't want HTC next time round, but not for these reasons.
My reasons:
1 - They shut down dev's for no reason
2 - They shut down dev's site with no warning and stump the community
3 - They don't care about customers
4 - They LIE to customers
5 - They replace parts under warranty with generic crappy alternatives and hope the customer doesn't realize
I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

Robotukas said:
Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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Yeah, the HTC not improve OS and hardware. That's why we get the 4.2.2 soon..
Btw, why do you compare the s4 and the HOX?
Compare s4 and One or s3 and HOX.
The ponit which I said is, the Samsung just improve features which looks good in the commercial and not a real life useable features.
In HTC Sense there are a lot of usable features, and don't forget this is one of the (if its not the) best skins. Not like a TW which lagg all day.
Yeah, the Samsung improve the OS more. But for why? Place useless features for why?
For people ,like you. Want to buy an S4 more than One.
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Wilks3y said:
I also don't want HTC next time round, but not for these reasons.
My reasons:
1 - They shut down dev's for no reason
2 - They shut down dev's site with no warning and stump the community
3 - They don't care about customers
4 - They LIE to customers
5 - They replace parts under warranty with generic crappy alternatives and hope the customer doesn't realize
I could go on, but I'll leave it there.
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1,2 - Are you talking about http://www.htcdev.com/ ?
3 - They do care about us. I had a problem with many of my phones and got the support every time I wanted.
4 - They did not lie about anything to me
5 - I worked at official HTC service center and I really can't agree with you
As I said, every person has its own opinion. Everything you said I believe you. That is Life and "life-experience" and you will act regarding to what you think and want at that time.
I hope you will have better experience with some other brand

miHah said:
1,2 - Are you talking about http://www.htcdev.com/ ?
3 - They do care about us. I had a problem with many of my phones and got the support every time I wanted.
4 - They did not lie about anything to me
5 - I worked at official HTC service center and I really can't agree with you
As I said, every person has its own opinion. Everything you said I believe you. That is Life and "life-experience" and you will act regarding to what you think and want at that time.
I hope you will have better experience with some other brand
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1,2 - No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about RUU Sharing sites, and Personal dev sites that they shut down without warning and for no reason.
3 - No they don't, they'll replace it for you because thats what they have to do as statutory law.
4 - They lie about more than you'll know, you just have to find it. Have a quick Google and you'll see a vast array of people complaining that they've been given generic parts sub-par standard to originals, which they can't deny as part numbers don't lie.
5 - This is why you're sticking up for them, you have personal/emotional ties to their service centers.

Wilks3y said:
1,2 - No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about RUU Sharing sites, and Personal dev sites that they shut down without warning and for no reason.
3 - No they don't, they'll replace it for you because thats what they have to do as statutory law.
4 - They lie about more than you'll know, you just have to find it. Have a quick Google and you'll see a vast array of people complaining that they've been given generic parts sub-par standard to originals, which they can't deny as part numbers don't lie.
5 - This is why you're sticking up for them, you have personal/emotional ties to their service centers.
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As I said, everyone has his own point of view.
It is not like i'm emotionally attached to service center at all. From users point of view I never had any problems with HTC.
I am sorry to hear about your poor experience. Are you a developer and HTC did something to you that hurt your feelings? Too bad. Go get Samsung than, maybe they will treat you better.
About HTC in my opinion: small company that makes awesome phones (design and SW) in comparison to "mainstream" and "boring" big companies like Apple and Samsung. That is why I like them - they are not afraid of changing things, design and everything. They are struggling but they are still donating money (http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/3488/china-sichuan-earthquake-donation/ AND http://www.slashgear.com/htc-chairw...ts-to-young-women-in-southeast-asia-28279650/). That makes me feel like I am part of something good and although all companies have their lacks and you have to choose between all of them..I choose HTC.
You can choose among others. And I hope you will be satisfied

Now I only said one thing.
If you are not pleased with the premium materials for body. ( so you want a plastic toy phone). And you all the time want the brand to lick your a.ss. Just go to the Samsung, they will do. The HTC not, for why? Because this phones not need to be upgraded. Yes it's good if its upgraded, but not needed because this phones are awesome for now and for many years with stock system.
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Robotukas said:
I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this brand. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymore HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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This is my answer for you:
1. They don't improve performance - Better performance than Samsung, LG and Sony (Tested)
2. They do update just for one year - that's not true, HOX have more than a year in market whit many updates and coming more
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery. - My hox is cool like my frezeer doing everything.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone. - new Google politics, and others like sony are doing the same.
5. Where not a lot accessories - there is the necesary accessories, what they don't have?
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work - Hox is a very resistive phone, much than samsung and iPhone (I had an accident on my motorcycle and my hox went flying to the asphalt and absolutely nothing happened.)
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it - you can remove the app you want, if you do not know how to do it is another thing.
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence - we dont need it, we have Google services and Dropbox, why more?
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable - usb socket is the right place (side), only samsung and iPhone used at the bottom of the phone
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave. - HTC sense has many features, but points more to the social and multimedia platform, is a choice. According steven Kondik (Cyanogen) Touch wiz on the s4 seems froyo, but HTC sense 5 as more friendly, modern and pleasant to use.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock- m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket. - again: m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
to finish, if you see the reviews the Best phone at the moment is a HTC phone, The HTC One.

jamm513 said:
This is my answer for you:
1. They don't improve performance - Better performance than Samsung, LG and Sony (Tested)
2. They do update just for one year - that's not true, HOX have more than a year in market whit many updates and coming more
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery. - My hox is cool like my frezeer doing everything.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone. - new Google politics, and others like sony are doing the same.
5. Where not a lot accessories - there is the necesary accessories, what they don't have?
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work - Hox is a very resistive phone, much than samsung and iPhone (I had an accident on my motorcycle and my hox went flying to the asphalt and absolutely nothing happened.)
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it - you can remove the app you want, if you do not know how to do it is another thing.
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence - we dont need it, we have Google services and Dropbox, why more?
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable - usb socket is the right place (side), only samsung and iPhone used at the bottom of the phone
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave. - HTC sense has many features, but points more to the social and multimedia platform, is a choice. According steven Kondik (Cyanogen) Touch wiz on the s4 seems froyo, but HTC sense 5 as more friendly, modern and pleasant to use.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock- m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket. - again: m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
to finish, if you see the reviews the Best phone at the moment is a HTC phone, The HTC One.
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I could not agree with ANY of this more!!! Very nicely put!

TO THE OP, have a little read around these threads and you will realize these htc hating threads are not allowed. Go and take your rants somewhere else!
see your point and that but xda isnt for ranting and crying over how much u hate htc!!! go and rant on there forums if u feel the need to. These threads p#ss me off somewhat rotten!!!! reported!

I don't see how this thread is a relavent discussion topic for the device. Thread Closed

A few issues i noticed right away with the HTC 10

I've done extensive testing and comparisons between phones and found the following issues with the HTC 10:
- Above average operating temperatures (37-42c)
- Weak Wifi Reception

The above average temp is because of full metallic construction and the position of the cpu on the back of the phone, just under the aluminum plate, therefore, the heat radiation is much faster (you will feel it like heating up compared to plastic phones).
I have not noticed any issue with wifi.

Things I really dislike about my HTC 10:
- Average Operating Temperature between 37-42c (gets warm way to quickly)
- Camera is average at best
- Power Button is flimsy
- laggy as hell, especially typing with Swiftkey is nearly impossible!!!!
I tried the following phones extensively in the last 2 months:
- Nexus 6P
- S7 Regular
- S7 Edge
- Nexsus 5x
Out of them all I liked the S7 regular the best so far.
I am not sure if I am going to keep the HTC 10. Not too impressed...
Anyone else having the same issues?

My phone isn't laggy at all. Sounds like maybe you got a lemon. Only thing is the battery life hasn't impressed me. It's not bad just not as good as I had hoped.
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exxi said:
I am not sure if I am going to keep the HTC 10. Not too impressed...
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Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.

Build construction better than the 6P, better wifi and signal reception (6P was absolutely horrid) and battery life on the 10 imo is also leaps and bounds better than the 6P. Really couldn't be happier with this phone.

nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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Straight SAVAGE, lol
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nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!

i have the s7 edge and the htc 10 the 10 is a nice phone batteries life so so layout is good its fast i still think s7 has a better camera just my 2 cents

exxi said:
nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!
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High maintenance alert!
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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nobnut said:
Please keep us updated. I think I am speaking for all of us here when I say that until you are happy with whichever phone choice you decide on, none of us will be able to sleep.
I don't mind what time of the day (or night) it is. Just email me or call my direct line. I will make sure everyone else knows within moments of receiving your update.
This is heart-breaking.
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thegrants82 said:
High maintenance alert!
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Really?

exxi said:
Really?
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No I was just kidding.
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

Ahahahahaha, I am just so sad and astonished that half of you asperger syndrome ridden geeks don't even get a good bit of sarcasm.
nobnut, the donation is real tho; for the sake of staying original but this is just hopeless.
Anyway, I wasn't trying to rant about the 10; just asking if someone else is having the same issues. Other than that, I had really high expectations for the 10 as i returned all other devices. I was really happy to make the jump away from samsung.

Heat. Only when I'm charging? I don't play games though. Just casual browsing and facebook. And music.
Lagging? Through the whole UI?
I get no lag, at all. I've also typed this with swift just to try it out.
Camera, definitely not as good as the S7. I had the S7E for two months. Took the best pics. But this one isn't a slouch. Just requires a lot of adjustments when wanting to take a good shot (typical HTC)
Sent from my HTC 10 using XDA-Developers mobile app

my issue with my HTC 10 was the subtle backlight bleed all around the panel's frame.
I loved the phone, up until noticing said effect on a green background. It wasn't the same as a light leak on a dark screen - this, I noticed on a green.
It was like the screen's borders where lighter in hue up to half a centimeter in width - I know it's too much, and I know I have OCD with such things, but for me was super distracting
Other than that, I loved everything about the device - camera, layout, colour reproduction, speed, sound. Everything

ro_explorer said:
The above average temp is because of full metallic construction and the position of the cpu on the back of the phone, just under the aluminum plate, therefore, the heat radiation is much faster (you will feel it like heating up compared to plastic phones).
I have not noticed any issue with wifi.
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yup its because of the aluminum body, was the same with the m9. there was a mod to take the device apart and apply thermal paste if you search the m9 forums. its risky but i did it before, helped alot. would for sure void warranty.

exxi said:
nobnut, I am so delighted that such caring and compassionate individuals are part of the XDA community.
After all, that is what makes this board such a great place for the fringe and disillusioned individuals (such as me) who are crying for attention.
Who in the wold can undestand the pain and suffering that comes with a less than perfect smartphone? Your message filled me with hope.....
Now, may I please have your full contact details to make use for your generous and selfless offer?
Thank you so much!
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You guys are hilarious love xda rofl

Has anyone tested the YouTube uploading on the HTC 10?
Here's what I've noticed:
* if I shoot a video in landscape mode, all is good and the video is updated correctly, in landscape mode - as expected
* if I shoot a video in portrait mode, the video uploads as a landscape video
I've tried different camera apps with the same result.

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Oh!
I love you. However, I feel like a fraud. I must admit now to a rare genetic condition called 'advertisements suck disease'. As such, I have been a long time proponent of blocking all ads. I never knew therefore that XDA pushed them on us.
I tell you what... I am now making a donation to Doctors Without Borders in order to pay forward your generous act of kindness. I hope it meets with your approval.
In the meantime, let's say a silent prayer for exxi and his problems.
Shabba.

LG G6 or HTC 10

Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320

DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.

Sorry but why get the HTC 10? The u11 will be getting viper. Getting the 10 makes no sense.
Besides cost [emoji6]
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The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it

dladz said:
Getting the 10 makes no sense.
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Your post makes no sense :angel:
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Maik268 said:
Your post makes no sense :angel:
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You have no sense
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pomponazzo said:
The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5

dladz said:
So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
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I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...

DJGREEN1980 said:
Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320
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Phone size is a big factor for some people, camera performance too. But if customization is all you want then you already know the answer.

pomponazzo said:
I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...
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Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:

dladz said:
Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
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Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.

Tarima said:
Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.
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It makes sense to me. Buying a last gen phone does not. LG G6 perhaps but development will be lacklustre, I suggested it because it DOES make sense and it is what I would do, either that or the one plus five which I've just bought about two hours ago.
Do what you will op you have my two cents.
Now I must be gone because the mediocrity of this thread and it's responses hath caused me to obtain Forrest Whittaker eye and I fear it may be permanent should I remain.. eth.
Good luck to you on your last gen quest, I hope it is fruitful....eth [emoji106]
Leaves room.
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I would get the One Plus 5 if I were in your position. Love the 10 won't get rid of it until it breaks or I get bored of it.

lamplighter13 said:
DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.
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I got my HTC 10 2months ago. LG G6 was the other phone I was considering. Eventually I picked the HTC, because I wanted a compact device with capacitive buttons and fingerprint scanner on the front. So it's mainly due to the usability concerns. Also the $200 price gap between the HTC and LG (DS version with DAC which I was considering) mattered.
I don't think that the speed difference would be noticeable in the daily use. The HTC's camera is on pair. LG has double back lens, but HTC has rear OIS which is nice.
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.

Luminance said:
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.
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Just the materials used mate, should still be within it's limits.

dladz said:
You have no sense
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5
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Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.

comstockload said:
Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Two phone numbers on the same phone is pretty cool.

I have a HTC-10 which I purchased second hand for a family member, it has been rooted and I installed LineageOS on it, apart from that I haven't used it all that much but compared to my Nexus 6P my initial thoughts are
Pros:
HTC-10 feels a little faster
Memory card slot
Cons:
Too small (personal preference I guess but I welcome the extra screen real-estate)
Not all stock features are supported in custom ROMs (for example slow motion video)
the speakers aren't as loud as the 6P,
The home button seems to have a slight delay between pressing and registering
The fingerprint sensor is in a terrible spot
I was looking at a LG G6 but the lack of community support means it's not an option for me.
I couldn't recommend either of them really... I'd find it hard pressed to recommend any phone at the moment (I am particular)

comstockload said:
Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Have the 1+5 in my hand, got it today, don't know what all the bad reviews are about, it's a beast.
Selling my HTC 10 now Cheap I want rid of it.

U11 feels too plastic for me compared to the 10, my 10 on Leedroid is very fast, never had an issue, great sound, good camera etc. Going to look at LG V30 when it comes out, 10 will take some beating. I've dropped it 4 times and still looks awesome

I wouldn't buy the u11.
It's too big for me. and that is a big factor. Sure, I'd get used to it, but I want to use the device with 1 hand. The 10 I can still do this, the u11, I wouldn't. Also, a lot of wasted space that I hate. Samsung is winning in that perspective.
I don't like the plastic nor the missing headphone jack, either. I want these things, like the IR blaster, I miss that.
If I was to break my htc 10 tmw, and I do have enough $$ to get the u11 outright, I'd still buy a used 10 off swappa.
Also.. Verizon.. Doesn't have full support, is my understanding, which for that $$, I want.. and need.
my worthless .2 cents, lol