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Why I don't want anymore HTC - HTC One X

I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this brand. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymore HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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Robotukas said:
I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this phone. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymoy HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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For me this points are really useless points.
I just ask a question. Do you even want to control your phone with your eye?
Or want a laggy TW?
May only the updates is really slow, but nothing other.
Samsung in your hand feel like a plastic toy phone. The HTC in your hand feel like a boss.
So I think this ponit are only matters for children. Sorry, but this is true.
The only bad ponit for HOX or other HTC phones is the support.
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Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.

Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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miHah said:
Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.
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Of course I agree. Thing that I discovered, that I was using HTC products for more than 2 years. But I didn't see that phone is getting better. Plus, they made some restrictions. I thought that I can use in business and for casual. But I can see, I can give this phone to child, where he can play with phone and always keep charging. If I will start use all HTC futeres, so I need a battery bank. Do you buy car which 40 litres petrol for 50 miles? When you can buy better car and it uses less petrol.
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miHah said:
Good to know, every phone is for that person that wants it.
If you don't want it, don't use it.
Not everybody drives Mercedes because it is not made for everyone.
Have a nice day.
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One thing about me. I like technologies and I like watch how they progress. In beginning HTC made a lot good stuff, but for now I don't see advantages.
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Robotukas said:
Of course I agree. Thing that I discovered, that I was using HTC products for more than 2 years. But I didn't see that phone is getting better. Plus, they made some restrictions. I thought that I can use in business and for casual. But I can see, I can give this phone to child, where he can play with phone and always keep charging. If I will start use all HTC futeres, so I need a battery bank. Do you buy car which 40 litres petrol for 50 miles? When you can buy better car and it uses less petrol.
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I don't really know what you are talking about
If you think you will be happier with Samsung or any other phone, go ahead. I am not here to stop you.
All I want to say is: good luck with some other phone than HTC and I hope battery will last longer for you and you will be pleased to use gestures on your phone. It is not like any major science or usability about that for me. I could download software that is similar but why? I am pleased with what my phone can do and there is nothing about other phones that can do something completely new that would blow my mind.
About the cars.. than on your opinion Fiat 500 (or something you like) is better than ..lets say.. Aston Martin Vanquish? Because it uses less petrol?
It is ok if you think so, but people have different opinions about everything. Have that in mind!
Have a nice day deciding what to do next
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Robotukas said:
Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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Yea, and HOX and S4 are made at exact same time and are both same years devices? Ofcourse there are differences! What would be the point having multiple high-end phone brands if all were the same.

I also don't want HTC next time round, but not for these reasons.
My reasons:
1 - They shut down dev's for no reason
2 - They shut down dev's site with no warning and stump the community
3 - They don't care about customers
4 - They LIE to customers
5 - They replace parts under warranty with generic crappy alternatives and hope the customer doesn't realize
I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

Robotukas said:
Is not that thing that I mean. Read carefully. Samsung is improving hardware and OS. They do updates even for 2 years older phones. Samsung S4 use less RAM (like 200 MB) than HOX. So I want pay money for work and ideas. But not for ideas which make phone don't last and which doesn't work properly.
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Yeah, the HTC not improve OS and hardware. That's why we get the 4.2.2 soon..
Btw, why do you compare the s4 and the HOX?
Compare s4 and One or s3 and HOX.
The ponit which I said is, the Samsung just improve features which looks good in the commercial and not a real life useable features.
In HTC Sense there are a lot of usable features, and don't forget this is one of the (if its not the) best skins. Not like a TW which lagg all day.
Yeah, the Samsung improve the OS more. But for why? Place useless features for why?
For people ,like you. Want to buy an S4 more than One.
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Wilks3y said:
I also don't want HTC next time round, but not for these reasons.
My reasons:
1 - They shut down dev's for no reason
2 - They shut down dev's site with no warning and stump the community
3 - They don't care about customers
4 - They LIE to customers
5 - They replace parts under warranty with generic crappy alternatives and hope the customer doesn't realize
I could go on, but I'll leave it there.
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1,2 - Are you talking about http://www.htcdev.com/ ?
3 - They do care about us. I had a problem with many of my phones and got the support every time I wanted.
4 - They did not lie about anything to me
5 - I worked at official HTC service center and I really can't agree with you
As I said, every person has its own opinion. Everything you said I believe you. That is Life and "life-experience" and you will act regarding to what you think and want at that time.
I hope you will have better experience with some other brand

miHah said:
1,2 - Are you talking about http://www.htcdev.com/ ?
3 - They do care about us. I had a problem with many of my phones and got the support every time I wanted.
4 - They did not lie about anything to me
5 - I worked at official HTC service center and I really can't agree with you
As I said, every person has its own opinion. Everything you said I believe you. That is Life and "life-experience" and you will act regarding to what you think and want at that time.
I hope you will have better experience with some other brand
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1,2 - No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about RUU Sharing sites, and Personal dev sites that they shut down without warning and for no reason.
3 - No they don't, they'll replace it for you because thats what they have to do as statutory law.
4 - They lie about more than you'll know, you just have to find it. Have a quick Google and you'll see a vast array of people complaining that they've been given generic parts sub-par standard to originals, which they can't deny as part numbers don't lie.
5 - This is why you're sticking up for them, you have personal/emotional ties to their service centers.

Wilks3y said:
1,2 - No I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about RUU Sharing sites, and Personal dev sites that they shut down without warning and for no reason.
3 - No they don't, they'll replace it for you because thats what they have to do as statutory law.
4 - They lie about more than you'll know, you just have to find it. Have a quick Google and you'll see a vast array of people complaining that they've been given generic parts sub-par standard to originals, which they can't deny as part numbers don't lie.
5 - This is why you're sticking up for them, you have personal/emotional ties to their service centers.
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As I said, everyone has his own point of view.
It is not like i'm emotionally attached to service center at all. From users point of view I never had any problems with HTC.
I am sorry to hear about your poor experience. Are you a developer and HTC did something to you that hurt your feelings? Too bad. Go get Samsung than, maybe they will treat you better.
About HTC in my opinion: small company that makes awesome phones (design and SW) in comparison to "mainstream" and "boring" big companies like Apple and Samsung. That is why I like them - they are not afraid of changing things, design and everything. They are struggling but they are still donating money (http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/3488/china-sichuan-earthquake-donation/ AND http://www.slashgear.com/htc-chairw...ts-to-young-women-in-southeast-asia-28279650/). That makes me feel like I am part of something good and although all companies have their lacks and you have to choose between all of them..I choose HTC.
You can choose among others. And I hope you will be satisfied

Now I only said one thing.
If you are not pleased with the premium materials for body. ( so you want a plastic toy phone). And you all the time want the brand to lick your a.ss. Just go to the Samsung, they will do. The HTC not, for why? Because this phones not need to be upgraded. Yes it's good if its upgraded, but not needed because this phones are awesome for now and for many years with stock system.
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Robotukas said:
I think that HOX will be last phone from HTC. I was around 3 years with this brand. And is started to be annoyed. Why I don't take anymore HTC:
1. They don't improve performance
2. They do update just for one year
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone.
5. Where not a lot accessories
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket.
Main thing why I started hate this phone, they add some apps, small futures which I don't use and they don't improve OS performance. I mean HTC sence performance.
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This is my answer for you:
1. They don't improve performance - Better performance than Samsung, LG and Sony (Tested)
2. They do update just for one year - that's not true, HOX have more than a year in market whit many updates and coming more
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery. - My hox is cool like my frezeer doing everything.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone. - new Google politics, and others like sony are doing the same.
5. Where not a lot accessories - there is the necesary accessories, what they don't have?
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work - Hox is a very resistive phone, much than samsung and iPhone (I had an accident on my motorcycle and my hox went flying to the asphalt and absolutely nothing happened.)
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it - you can remove the app you want, if you do not know how to do it is another thing.
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence - we dont need it, we have Google services and Dropbox, why more?
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable - usb socket is the right place (side), only samsung and iPhone used at the bottom of the phone
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave. - HTC sense has many features, but points more to the social and multimedia platform, is a choice. According steven Kondik (Cyanogen) Touch wiz on the s4 seems froyo, but HTC sense 5 as more friendly, modern and pleasant to use.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock- m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket. - again: m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
to finish, if you see the reviews the Best phone at the moment is a HTC phone, The HTC One.

jamm513 said:
This is my answer for you:
1. They don't improve performance - Better performance than Samsung, LG and Sony (Tested)
2. They do update just for one year - that's not true, HOX have more than a year in market whit many updates and coming more
3. Phone is heating when you doing simple tasks, like web browsing. So when phone is heating so it drain battery. - My hox is cool like my frezeer doing everything.
4. Is hard to replace battery or open phone. - new Google politics, and others like sony are doing the same.
5. Where not a lot accessories - there is the necesary accessories, what they don't have?
6. Gorilla screen brakes so easy and if brakes, touch screan doesn't work - Hox is a very resistive phone, much than samsung and iPhone (I had an accident on my motorcycle and my hox went flying to the asphalt and absolutely nothing happened.)
7. Plenty app which I don't use and this apps drains battery. You can't remove it - you can remove the app you want, if you do not know how to do it is another thing.
8. Where no online service, like HTC sence - we dont need it, we have Google services and Dropbox, why more?
9. Usb socket is in wrong position. Isn't comfortable - usb socket is the right place (side), only samsung and iPhone used at the bottom of the phone
10. Where is no many future comparing with samsung s4. Like eye tracking, like answer call with hand wave. - HTC sense has many features, but points more to the social and multimedia platform, is a choice. According steven Kondik (Cyanogen) Touch wiz on the s4 seems froyo, but HTC sense 5 as more friendly, modern and pleasant to use.
11. Phone unlock itself even then you have pin lock- m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
12. Sometimes phone shutdown when is in pocket. - again: m8 your phone have serious problems that others dont have
to finish, if you see the reviews the Best phone at the moment is a HTC phone, The HTC One.
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I could not agree with ANY of this more!!! Very nicely put!

TO THE OP, have a little read around these threads and you will realize these htc hating threads are not allowed. Go and take your rants somewhere else!
see your point and that but xda isnt for ranting and crying over how much u hate htc!!! go and rant on there forums if u feel the need to. These threads p#ss me off somewhat rotten!!!! reported!

I don't see how this thread is a relavent discussion topic for the device. Thread Closed

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Ive had my One X for a couple of days now after upgrading from a desire and its not all it lives up to be for me. Heres what im experiencing so far:
- laggy UI
- sense crashes after using an app for a long period of time
- for a quad core phone it doesnt seem that fast, the browser is slow to zoom / drag and crashes sometimes
- APN settings are locked so i cant set up tethering
- i randomly get no signal in places where i know theres fantastic coverage
- movie maker has a bug where if the phone goes to sleep/standby whilst a movie is rendering then the program crashes and is very difficult to stabilise the phone
- limited mobile network settings
The desire is just so much more perfected and bug free, i can count the number of crashes and problems for the 2 years i had it on one hand. Brilliant phone. The one X on the other hand is starting to do my head in already..
Saying that, i did buy the desire at least 6 months or so after it was first released. The one X is a VERY new device only being a few days from release at the time of this post. Im hoping updates etc sort this phone out and turn it into a stable powerhouse that it claims to be.
Thoughts / advice on any of the issues ive mentioned? Maybe ive just got an iffy handset? Its on orange, and the limited white edition from phones 4 u.
Sam

I switched from the desire and am not missing the limited internal memory. On my desire I went to a custom rom to do anything when I ran out of space.
Only down side is battery life with screen on is so far about 4 hours but standby power usage is amazing, hardly drops with 4 email accounts syncing and countless other sync jobs.
I wasn't sure drop box integration would work. But it makes managing pics so easy.
Wait for HTC update that should sort some of the early adoption issues. Use chrome browser for internet. So smooth.
One x screen is the best I have experienced on any phone. Have you forgotten you couldn't even see the desire screen in daylight.
I still have my rooted if you want to swap.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

You said it all in your last sentence.
if you don't want a phone with teething problems, don't buy a phone on day one. If you do buy on day one, expect issues. I have had 10s of phones from Windows to Symbian, IOS to Android to Meego. Not 1 phone that i got when it first came out did not have issues.

i wonder if quad core has any thing to do with this...meaning old software may not work as well with a quad vs a dual core

HTC need to send the update out which people say improve battery life. I had a custom ics on my old desire and some app crashes is just that apps need to work better with ICS things like threading background tasks etc. I think it's an ics feature so you don't have apps keeping battery awake
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I have a hunch it is the orange bloatware messing things up if your phone is branded.
Otherwise, check firmware version, what is it?
What do you mean limited mobile network setting?

just because its quad core doesnt mean you arent going to experience any issues, as ppl think ooo quad core and its the fastest and if its not im throwing dummy out,
as mentioned about a day one release phone= many issues to start with ....
its an amazing phone

thxs 4 your opinion.okay.bye!

hetalmp said:
One x screen is the best I have experienced on any phone. Have you forgotten you couldn't even see the desire screen in daylight.
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The desire screen must be the most useless mobile screen ever made for daylight use. It's truly terrible
vennards said:
- laggy UI
- sense crashes after using an app for a long period of time
- for a quad core phone it doesnt seem that fast, the browser is slow to zoom / drag and crashes sometimes
- APN settings are locked so i cant set up tethering
- i randomly get no signal in places where i know theres fantastic coverage
- movie maker has a bug where if the phone goes to sleep/standby whilst a movie is rendering then the program crashes and is very difficult to stabilise the phone
- limited mobile network settings
The desire is just so much more perfected and bug free, i can count the number of crashes and problems for the 2 years i had it on one hand. Brilliant phone. The one X on the other hand is starting to do my head in already..
Sam
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I am having the same issues, and also came from a desire. Give this phone time, HTC can't be relied upon to produce the software, so wait for non-HTC root and turn to the community to fix the phone
So much for a new start, nothing worse than receiving a £500 device which is flawed due to buggy and rushed software implementation.
Not quite quietly brilliant....

stop stop stop this getting too ridiculous
do you really expect a device on a new major OS revision and Skin and a completely new SOC vendor to work bug free from day one? ur kidding, then why did they make the very idea of OTA if a bug free software is achievable from day one
I agree its disappointing to have this much defects and s major Tegra3 bug but comeon already the One X is just begining of a long journey
have some patience do you remember how ridiculous the desire was on android 2.1??

hamdir said:
stop stop stop this getting too ridiculous
do you really expect a device on a new major OS revision and Skin and a completely new SOC vendor to work bug free from day one?
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when the company you are purchasing from tells you they've sorted themselves out and are releasing a new flagship product, then i'd expect 1 or 2 defects, yes. That's not what's happening here is it?
guy: wow, that the new one x?
me: yeah
guy: ewww.. look at that lag, my sensation doesn't do that! and look at that stupid camera, that's going to get scratched in no time... oh, is your screen flashing? wait, it's falling off! ...did you charge this? it's 11am and you have like 30% battery!
me: yeh, err, there's a patch coming that err, might fix it! but we only have the chinese version and I can't root without voiding my warranty!
guy: how much was it again?
apple guy (interject): LOL
...underwhelmed

I agree the one x is going to get better and better as did my hd2 and every android phone I've owned,let's give it time..but to the people reporting a loose volume button if u shake the phone really hard come on how often do u shake it phone about? Love the X
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

I must agree with zombiefly here... The bugs should be in the small parts. Not in the main parth of the phone, like games, screens and browser... glitching, lag and... Should be minimilised. And these factors are the biggest problems on the one X however.
Problems like a calendar with over 20 appointment doing weird is a bug that no one would really go crazy abouth. And that this is a bug that made the first release is understandable. The first part of the problems I mentioned, isn't...

two things I don't understand
90% of the reviewers were floored by the device and believe me the same sites that used to slaughter HTC for the past year and yet no one complained about one bug, in fact most said its bugs free
in the poll thread u have around 80% saying their device is perfect, I myself bought two and found non
so you tell me who should I believe? 10% if the reviewers, 20% of the users in the general section or lie to myself?
you know what it just hit me, I'm willing to bet most complaints are coming from previous iPhone and Samsung users just because are different than what they r used to
my iBoss once decided to buy my old desire out of curiosity and man he almost committed suicide, he didn't last two days and said everything is broken and not working, hek his face started to deform
the very same Desire that our OP in here said is better than the One X
besides the genuine factory defects and the Tegra3 bug I call every other complaint subjective

hamdir said:
two things I don't understand
90% of the reviewers were floored by the device and believe me the same sites that used to slaughter HTC for the past year and yet no one complained about one bug, in fact most said its bugs free
in the poll thread u have around 80% saying their device is perfect, I myself bought two and found non
so you tell me who should I believe? 10% if the reviewers, 20% of the users in the general section or lie to myself?
you know what it just hit me, I'm willing to bet most complaints are coming from previous iPhone and Samsung users
my iBoss once decided to buy my old desire out of curiosity and man he almost committed suicide, he didn't last two days and said everything is broken and not working, hek his face started to deform
the very same Desire that our OP in here said is better than the One X
besides the genuine factory defects and the Tegra3 bug I call every other complaint subjective
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Tegra 3 bug?

r_a_c said:
I must agree with zombiefly here... The bugs should be in the small parts. Not in the main parth of the phone, like games, screens and browser... glitching, lag and... Should be minimilised. And these factors are the biggest problems on the one X however.
Problems like a calendar with over 20 appointment doing weird is a bug that no one would really go crazy abouth. And that this is a bug that made the first release is understandable. The first part of the problems I mentioned, isn't...
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Agreed: Now I do understand bugs are there in just about every phone and to be honest they are normally bugs you can live with until an update; the problem here is that the bugs are completely preventing the use of the device and/or making the use of the device very difficult. No phone should be released with this being the case.
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hamdir said:
in the poll thread u have around 80% saying their device is perfect, I myself bought two and found non
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That thread is about built quality though not about the actually OS of the phone and the issues when using the device. The majority of bugs are not acceptable to be honest... We all understand there will be bugs (i said this above) but they should affect the actually ability to use the phone.

If you come from a Desire, then you must remember how it was in the beggining... the Desire matured really well with updates, also had its fair share of problemas in the beggining. Was a great phone though, as is the One X.
Give it time, the phone is already awesome, but with AOSP + a good custom kernel this is going to be even better

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If you come from a Desire, then you must remember how it was in the beggining... the Desire matured really well with updates, also had its fair share of problemas in the beggining. Was a great phone though, as is the One X.
Give it time, the phone is already awesome, but with AOSP + a good custom kernel this is going to be even better
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Agreed the phone is an amazing device; no doubt the best I have used. Some of the bugs are easy to be patient with (providing they will be fixed), some of them though are serious and do cause major issues. I guess it all depends on how quickly an update will be out; I mean lets be fair in the UK this phone has only been out for just under 2 weeks now SIM Free and just over a week on carriers and no doubts its sold shed loads!
My issue is how quickly will an update come out? Also will it come out on SIM Free first; and if it does how long after will it be before the carriers release the update? The last thing I want is to be sat using a phone with bugs for the next month or two and I think most people would think the same. If its a matter of a week or two for most/all the bugs to be fixed then everyone would be happy to wait.
It's a shame there has been no reports from HTC on this...

can i just say that i have had the phone a week
no bugs
no juddering display
no lag in apps or Chrome
no crashes
and battery lasts me over 24 hours no problem since day 1 (was careful with first 3 charges)
i am very pleased with my first Android handset having had Blackberrys/iPhones for past few years and i hope to remain an Android user for many years to come.

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Tell them to come back to you after 1 or 2 months when the custom ROMs are starting to come in droves and your battery is broken in properly, we'll see who's the daddy
Seriously people: early adopters = beta testers. It seems to be the norm these days. I'm not saying it's OK, just that it's happening, like it or not. Give the phone a little time.
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have some patience do you remember how ridiculous the desire was on android 2.1??
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^^The man's right. 2 years ago I bought the flagship phone of the time: the Desire, and I still vividly remember how terrible it was when I got it, both software and battery wise; 3-4-5 hours out of the box, like the One X now. The battery got a LOT better with use, over the course of a couple of weeks, and most of the software problems were sorted, albeit by custom ROM chefs. Don't know about official HTC soft though, as I rooted within a week of getting the Desire and put on a non-Sense ROM - I never looked back. It'll be the first thing to do again when I pick up the 1X, I hate Sense with a passion.
To be honest, this whole "omfg crap battery" and "omfg buggy software" thing is a bit of a storm in a teacup. I suspect immature Tegra drivers in the background, also the 4 main cores do a lot more work than they're supposed to, probably because most of the apps out there still need to be optimised for ICS. I'm confident it'll get sorted and I still plan to buy the 1X once I get the finances sorted, it's the first phone I'd consider replacing my Desire with.

Hi frnds here are sm issues that needs a little thinking to cm to the face "WERE THEY PREPARED"?
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
5. HTC scny and htcsense.com on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
Can sm1 plz add to this what they feel....
Personally i feel this device is a hasty step to catch market before "S3".

lalitsehgal21 said:
Hi frnds here are sm issues that needs a little thinking to cm to the face "WERE THEY PREPARED"?
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
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Although I haven't actually seen this issue on any HOX yet, it seems to be a big quality control problem.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
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I don't think they ever actually said they were going to give urBeats with every phone.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
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Which isn't always a problem. It's quite common.
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
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Hardly that big of an issue.
5. HTC sense on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
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HTC Sense on PC?
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
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They had unlocked bootloaders from day one. They never promised anything about S-OFF.
Tbh... the only thing that the phone needs is a software update. It won't take forever.

1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
Hardware/Software, we don't know. Until we hear from Nvidia or HTC we don't know. As of now take HTCs advise and keep replacing until you get a good one.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
Beats are poor full stop. No one said they will be bundling the headphones with the phones. Beats Audio is just an EQ.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
Cheaper costs?
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
Give it time.
5. HTC sense on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
No comment, don't use this. I use AirDroid.
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
You can unlock via HTC Dev.

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Although I haven't actually seen this issue on any HOX yet, it seems to be a big quality control problem.
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I don't think they ever actually said they were going to give urBeats with every phone.
Which isn't always a problem. It's quite common.
Hardly that big of an issue.
HTC Sense on PC?
They had unlocked bootloaders from day one. They never promised anything about S-OFF.
Tbh... the only thing that the phone needs is a software update. It won't take forever.
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As per vodafone the hox premium pack will have beats headfones as well....so why this partiality.... N htc sense.com to manage fone via pc is also useless....n yes quality control has been big failure...bt thnx for participating mate...really helpful
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nikzDHD said:
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
Hardware/Software, we don't know. Until we hear from Nvidia or HTC we don't know. As of now take HTCs advise and keep replacing until you get a good one.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
Beats are poor full stop. No one said they will be bundling the headphones with the phones. Beats Audio is just an EQ.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
Cheaper costs?
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
Give it time.
5. HTC sense on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
No comment, don't use this. I use AirDroid.
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
You can unlock via HTC Dev.
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Hi bro jst an update htc dev gives unlocked bootloader not actual s-off... So fight still on n they void warranty... Whereas during sensation they promised that all devices after thia will have unlocked bootloaders
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Meh, I'll join in too, why not
lalitsehgal21 said:
Hi frnds here are sm issues that needs a little thinking to cm to the face "WERE THEY PREPARED"?
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
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Personally, I don't have this issue. If it's a hardware problem, then HTC will replace it for you. If it's a software problem, it will probably be fixed in future updates.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
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They are under no obligation to give you beats headphones with the device. Just because the software is included doesn't mean the headphones will be. The various networks that are giving the headphones away are only doing it as a promotional gift to draw in more customers. The headphones HTC supplied are actually rather good anyway, and 'Beats' in nothing more than an over-hyped, over-priced EQ setting with sub-par quality headphones to go with it.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
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Many companies do this with devices. It's probably to cut costs and/or to get large quantities of the screen made faster.
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
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I agree, I thought this was a little strange. I know more things will be added over time, but it just seemed odd to include the hub from the start when there's literally nothing there.
5. HTC sense on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
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Not entirely sure what you mean by this, but I absolutely love Sense. It's not laggy anymore and the animations are absolutely fantastic. Failure is the last word I'd use to describe it.
If you are referring to the HTC sync thing on the PC, then yes, it's terrible. You can do everything you need to without it though, so simply don't use it!
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
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We can easily unlock the bootloader via HTCdev. Unlocking your bootloader is NOT the same as having 'S-OFF' and they never said anything about giving us that option. S-OFF has to come from an exploit, I believe, which we will most likely get over time.
Can sm1 plz add to this what they feel....
Personally i feel this device is a hasty step to catch market before "S3".
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I think you're probably right about them rushing to release it before the S3, but almost every single high-end phone is the same. They always push for an early release to beat whichever phone is considered the main competition, whether it be an Android device or an iPhone. But as rushed devices go, this one is very solid indeed. No software or hardware problems (for me, at least) and the build quality is fantastic. There's the overheating issue and battery life problems, but no phone is ever going to be perfect and will only get better over time

My previous phone was the lg optimus 2x, had that from day 1 it came out, the same as this phone! If HTC have rushed it they have done a mighty good job in my opinion, cos the o2x is still a pile of ****e and its been out over a year. I would never get another LG.
Just give them time to iron out the creases
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lalitsehgal21 said:
Hi frnds here are sm issues that needs a little thinking to cm to the face "WERE THEY PREPARED"?
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
5. HTC scny and htcsense.com on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
Can sm1 plz add to this what they feel....
Personally i feel this device is a hasty step to catch market before "S3".
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1. Can you please post a photo/video of how your screen shows the flickering. I just want to make sure that mine has the same problem or not.

lalitsehgal21 said:
1. As per lot of threads more of people including myself have been running around for replacement for flickering screen issue.
2. The beats headfones were not included in the BOX means the logo and enhancements were half given not the full package to customers.
3. Jst like in sensation the screens are by two manufacturers.
4. when u open HTC hub no theme, wallpaper etc , means nothing ready as of now. where as in sensation all was ready.
5. HTC scny and htcsense.com on pc is still useless after much proven failure.
6. They promised unlocked bootloaders and here we are again after sensation on same work "S-OFF".
Can sm1 plz add to this what they feel....
Personally i feel this device is a hasty step to catch market before "S3".
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1.Just today a friend of mine bought an HTC One X because he saw mine and he love id.Didn't had any problems with it,i don't have any problems with it.If you have screen problems why don't you go and replace it?
2.Actualy the Beats audio are some enhacement brought to the phone so people can have quality sound when they are listening to headphones.Nowere was written that HTC will provide Beats headphones.You have to realize that only the phone itself without contract and any other deals like that costs like 800 Euro.Imagine how much will it cost if you put in the package some Beats headphones,and honestly most people i don't know if they ever heard of Beats.If you want you can buy a pair of Beats.
3.And the problem with that is....what?Did you know that the Iphone 4S had 2 types of display?The first Iphone 4s (the first lot) had the screen manufactured by Samsung,the other lot (since January 2012) had the screen manufactured by Sony.I don't realy see what the problem is here,is the same type of display,only different manufacturer.
4.Wallpapers you can find all over the web,or you have apps like Zedge where you can download wallpapers,notification sounds,ringtones,etc.Here as well i don't see a problem.And pardon me,do you think that the themes will be so different?You have to realize that all themes have the same icons,the same widgets and so on.If you want to realy customize your phone you have to download Apps that are capable of changing the appearance of the phone.
5.I don't use HTC Sense because is verry limited.You can find a lot of apps out there on the web which are free ( Wondershare Mobile GO,Moborobo,etc).Again i don't see the problem here.
6.You can unlock the bootloader at htcdev,nobody sayd anything about S-OFF.It's quite a difference between unlocking your bootloader and S-OFF.
You have to realize that the phone is brand new,some of us barely started to get used to it.I only got it 9 days ago.You just need to be pacient and HTC will solve eventualy all of the problems (or at least the big ones that are now with some phones).You can't expect that in 3 weeks since the lauch of the phone HTC can solve all the problems.It is absoluthy impossible.Imagine that there are some versions of the OS out there (1.xx.401,1.xx.209,etc),so,for that every version they have to came up with updates to fix them,not to mention that are even branded phones which the software updates are pushed trough the operators first to inspect them,and after that they are lauched for users.

abhi897 said:
1. Can you please post a photo/video of how your screen shows the flickering. I just want to make sure that mine has the same problem or not.
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Hi bro...i did on my previous fone..then i went to service, center and got replacement then i checked the handset n the new one does not flicker...else there was flicker in all scrren in cam, colours etc... If u have go for replacement its hardware fault
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jeyml said:
1.Just today a friend of mine bought an HTC One X because he saw mine and he love id.Didn't had any problems with it,i don't have any problems with it.If you have screen problems why don't you go and replace it?
2.Actualy the Beats audio are some enhacement brought to the phone so people can have quality sound when they are listening to headphones.Nowere was written that HTC will provide Beats headphones.You have to realize that only the phone itself without contract and any other deals like that costs like 800 Euro.Imagine how much will it cost if you put in the package some Beats headphones,and honestly most people i don't know if they ever heard of Beats.If you want you can buy a pair of Beats.
3.And the problem with that is....what?Did you know that the Iphone 4S had 2 types of display?The first Iphone 4s (the first lot) had the screen manufactured by Samsung,the other lot (since January 2012) had the screen manufactured by Sony.I don't realy see what the problem is here,is the same type of display,only different manufacturer.
4.Wallpapers you can find all over the web,or you have apps like Zedge where you can download wallpapers,notification sounds,ringtones,etc.Here as well i don't see a problem.And pardon me,do you think that the themes will be so different?You have to realize that all themes have the same icons,the same widgets and so on.If you want to realy customize your phone you have to download Apps that are capable of changing the appearance of the phone.
5.I don't use HTC Sense because is verry limited.You can find a lot of apps out there on the web which are free ( Wondershare Mobile GO,Moborobo,etc).Again i don't see the problem here.
6.You can unlock the bootloader at htcdev,nobody sayd anything about S-OFF.It's quite a difference between unlocking your bootloader and S-OFF.
You have to realize that the phone is brand new,some of us barely started to get used to it.I only got it 9 days ago.You just need to be pacient and HTC will solve eventualy all of the problems (or at least the big ones that are now with some phones).You can't expect that in 3 weeks since the lauch of the phone HTC can solve all the problems.It is absoluthy impossible.Imagine that there are some versions of the OS out there (1.xx.401,1.xx.209,etc),so,for that every version they have to came up with updates to fix them,not to mention that are even branded phones which the software updates are pushed trough the operators first to inspect them,and after that they are lauched for users.
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Thnx for the sharing the view mate... Bt its not personal... Bt if u see ppl like me travelled over 200 km in first week of purchasing fone to service. Center .. N me paying frm my pocket over n above the fone price... Do we deserve it??
why such loose n failed quality check? U r lucky u got working one else if u wld have travelled like us exchanging moment again n again u wld hv been uncomfortable as well.....
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Holy ****, blue text and mega fonts. There should be a rule against this...

ArmedandDangerous said:
Holy ****, blue text and mega fonts. There should be a rule against this...
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why so mate.... anyway amended

The screen flickering issue is a graphics drivers issue and is also most likely behind the notification corruption and funky banding in the camera app. None of the professional reviewer's units had it and, based on polls, 75% of production phones don't have it. Personally, I believe the chips Nvidia provided for early testing were more uniform than production chips and that this whole issue caught HTC off guard. Hopefully the delay in releasing a fix is HTC being thorough so they don't have to release four updates for Teg3-releated issues the way Asus did. The S4-based XL and S are having no similar issues so if you want to assign blame look to Nvidia. And those devices were no more or less "rushed" than the X.
Outside of that the build issues can be chaukled up to production line teething pains and should go away fairly quickly.
None of this should be foriegn to any of those that got one of the first XEU SGS2's last year.
Sense 4.0 is surprisingly tight considering it's a re-write vs. an update. That's also probably why there aren't more themes available right now. You don't hold up the launch of a product for non-necessary cosmetic features.
The inclusion or exclusion of Beats headphones is a marketing and financial decision and has nothing to do with the timing of the One X's launch.
I wish more threads were started to discussing things that work rather than things that don't. I traveled with my phone this weekend and varying conditions are a good test to see if h/w and s/w hang together well. It peformed better than my SGS2 which has been updated at least a half dozen times. If you guys tracked the launches of the GN, Prime, and Xperia S, outside of the flickering issue, the One X is holding its own just fine.

i don't know about these htcsense and hub things, and i probably wouldn't use them if they worked right. the different screen thing is a problem because a lot of people may want the one they don't have. Beats Audio is garbage to me. i would put Beats headphones in the trash. i use $500 Sennheiser and play lossless audio files. Beats may be good for you if you play mp3s and have free headphones, but i'm a musician. i hope the s-off thing gets fixed so we can have custom kernels. was it rushed? most things are. if you aren't happy, then get a refund and buy something else. mine gets here Tuesday and if i have a serious problem with it, i won't be typing on xda, i will be at my bank filing refund paperwork.

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the different screen thing is a problem because a lot of people may want the one they don't have.
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Right or wrong, this is a decision HTC made and has made in the past. It shouldn't surprise anyone and plays no role in the timing of the release of the phone. From a logic perspective, sourcing from two different vendors helps reduce supply chain issues in the event one of them has a problem. I saw a warm display and if it wasn't next to a cool display would have been fine with it. The non-XDA masses probably don't care.
i would put Beats headphones in the trash.
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Like Beats? Max out the bass in an equalizer. It's a marketing gimick just like Monster cables at three times the price of ordinary high-quality cables that are produced side-by-side in the same factories.
if i have a serious problem with it, i won't be typing on xda, i will be at my bank filing refund paperwork.
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I'm a little more patient than you. I'd give an HTC update a chance first. But I don't martyr myself on forums because sympathy can't fix problems.

1. QC is bad. It is a rushed production for sure. My phone works perfect. Even when I was on 1.26. Yet, I am aware many others have issues. Make HTC pay for poor QC by asking for an exchange. They will oblige.
2. Beats is not my cup of tea but your argument is like saying buying a game that has the label 'Compatible with Windows 7' should include Windows 7 just because it bears the label.
3. Many companies get supplies of LCDs from different manufacturers. It's normal everyone is doing it. I was an iPhone 4 user and used 2 handsets. Trust me, the difference in quality (color temp) was so massive it is startling. And there is nothing Apple could do for me because its just how supply chain works.
4. Never bothered with HTC hub.
5. S-Off is being worked on by 3rd party people. Be patient.
TLR - If you have bad screen issues get a replacement. If you feel cheated, get a refund. The bottom line is you have to be happy.

BarryH_GEG said:
The screen flickering issue is a graphics drivers issue and is also most likely behind the notification corruption and funky banding in the camera app. None of the professional reviewer's units had it and, based on polls, 75% of production phones don't have it. Personally, I believe the chips Nvidia provided for early testing were more uniform than production chips and that this whole issue caught HTC off guard. Hopefully the delay in releasing a fix is HTC being thorough so they don't have to release four updates for Teg3-releated issues the way Asus did. The S4-based XL and S are having no similar issues so if you want to assign blame look to Nvidia. And those devices were no more or less "rushed" than the X.
Outside of that the build issues can be chaukled up to production line teething pains and should go away fairly quickly.
None of this should be foriegn to any of those that got one of the first XEU SGS2's last year.
Sense 4.0 is surprisingly tight considering it's a re-write vs. an update. That's also probably why there aren't more themes available right now. You don't hold up the launch of a product for non-necessary cosmetic features.
The inclusion or exclusion of Beats headphones is a marketing and financial decision and has nothing to do with the timing of the One X's launch.
I wish more threads were started to discussing things that work rather than things that don't. I traveled with my phone this weekend and varying conditions are a good test to see if h/w and s/w hang together well. It peformed better than my SGS2 which has been updated at least a half dozen times. If you guys tracked the launches of the GN, Prime, and Xperia S, outside of the flickering issue, the One X is holding its own just fine.
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Flickering is not softwae issue i can bet on that... i replaced my handset same series but different lot.. and the flicker now is absent..it is indeed faulty hardware used issue....

brent8577 said:
i don't know about these htcsense and hub things, and i probably wouldn't use them if they worked right. the different screen thing is a problem because a lot of people may want the one they don't have. Beats Audio is garbage to me. i would put Beats headphones in the trash. i use $500 Sennheiser and play lossless audio files. Beats may be good for you if you play mp3s and have free headphones, but i'm a musician. i hope the s-off thing gets fixed so we can have custom kernels. was it rushed? most things are. if you aren't happy, then get a refund and buy something else. mine gets here Tuesday and if i have a serious problem with it, i won't be typing on xda, i will be at my bank filing refund paperwork.
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But mate if u see and compare both screens side by side there is huge image and quality output difference... one is yellow tinge and one is sparkling white.... i personally prefer single type white atleast no matter who makes it... Dt u agree??

lalitsehgal21 said:
Thnx for the sharing the view mate... Bt its not personal... Bt if u see ppl like me travelled over 200 km in first week of purchasing fone to service. Center .. N me paying frm my pocket over n above the fone price... Do we deserve it??
why such loose n failed quality check? U r lucky u got working one else if u wld have travelled like us exchanging moment again n again u wld hv been uncomfortable as well.....
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Indeed i would be a little pissed if i had some problems with it because i'm kinda of a lazy person when it comes to do the same thing over and over again,and i'm reffering here to copying contacts,setting up mail,etc.I'm so lazy i haven't reinstalled windows 7 on my PC since it camed out just because i'm to lazy to reinstall al the drivers,and setting up again how i like it,etc.
I think that the quality check was done,but as far as the screen flickering i think is a transport issue.Maybe the companies that transport this phones just throw them in the trucs and the screen gets affected somehow?I don't think that HTC is so dumb not to make a good quality check before releasing a product.

So I have never considered the S3 before, but I have two weeks left to replace my One X (Second One X with dodgy compass) and I am wondering whether to just give up and ask for a S3 instead.
First of all let me say that I LOVE the One X, and the better screen and sleeker looks are more than enough for me to pick it over the S3 with it's otherwise stronger specs - were it not for the faults with the device.
Build quality is iffy, and I have had two HOXes now, both of which have had dodgy gps which just don't work (they show me spinning around on the spot and moving around rapidly on the map when I am standing still). But perhaps getting another replacement would fix that.
But that isn't all. The fact that wi-fi turns off when the phone goes into stand-by is a huuge inconvenience, as I have to keep on interacting with the phone whenever I am down/uploading a large file, so it doesn't stop half way through. I shouldn't have to do this.
Also, the multi-tasking is pretty awful and doesn't seem to have been coded well at all.
Now my question is, do you guys foresee these problems being sorted out in the not-too-distant future, or are you considering switching over to the S3 as well? Also, do you expect the S3 to have similar problems when it comes out?
I just want to reiterate that I love this phone and really don't want to slag it off, but the combined problems are really getting me down, and I don't think an expensive top-end mobile should should be so flawed.
TY for any thoughts and opinions in advance.
EDIT: Ok well. Two of the biggest problems I had with the One X seem to have been solved already.
First of all, the 1.29.0.11 (??) patch has apparently fixed multi-tasking.
Also, some genius has managed to show me a fix for the wi-fi turning off when the phone is in standby.
Crabitpig said:
There's an app on the market (power saver settings by Derek r Randall)that let's you into the hidden HTC power settings from there untick the WiFi auto disconect and also keep never sleep selected from the advanced WiFi menu.hit thanks if this helps
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I tried this out, and my phone's wifi now stays connected even when the screen is turned off!! Woop!!!!
Still leaves the factor of a dodgy GPS, but I am more than happy to get a replacement HOX as the other main problems have been alleviated

Same question for me. I got 2nd one atm and still got probs with it. Like the GPS like you, gap on the side, WiFi turnin off....... I like this thing and I want it workin but now I'm in the role that I could change to another device on Vodafone Germany because its getting the 3rd replacement. I don't know what to do too... Greetz
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I am !

does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?

mox123 said:
does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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I own a sensation but when I'm not dling, the WiFi goes off when screen is off.
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does the wifi go off when the screen is off whether u r downloading or not?
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Yes.
But even if it stayed on until the download was finished, that wouldn't be OK in my opinion.

I am for at least 12 months. As much as the lack of s-off is annoying it isn't the deal breaker so long as HTC are releasing pretty regular updates for the bugs found. As far as my devices build quality is concerned I have no problems. Just not worth using htcdev until half way through my contract risking the loss of warranty.
The device itself should entertain me as is for 12 months. Hunting S-OFF is a side attraction until then post that date root via htcdev will see me the latter half of the contract by keeping me interested.

Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.

You can set a longer screen off time when downloading, also I'm sorry to say I don't have the same problems :/
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as much as i hate to say this i am undecided as well..now if my carrier comes back to me and they say i can replace my handset then i will go for the s3. now do not get me wrong i love my one x. but at the same time with all the issues going on kinda puts me off. hence how do i know i will not get another dodgy one..if they say they can only repair it then i will hold off sending it as it is still fully functional and were i have the creaking i stuck a case over it and it has stopped for now..so it goes like this
replace it for me then i am going for the s3
if they say no then one x it is and still a great device and i have recommended it to a few of my friends and hoping they get a good batch

pewpewbangbang said:
Sticking with One X for now unless something real enticing comes. SGS3 was a disappointment IMO. Maybe the Sony GX or the next Nexus I'll upgrade. Maybe even iPhone 5
SGS3 has multitasking problems also according to a reviewer/user if we're talking about the same problem.
Wi-Fi should be fixed, One S had it fixed I believe.
I personally haven't run into wi-fi problems recently. For a a little while when running a new build of ARHD, I all of a sudden got the wi-fi problems ppl were talking about. Didn't have the problems before that. Switched over to LeeDroid and haven't run into the wi-fi problem since.
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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?

im selling mine when i borrow a camera for pics. i made a mistake leaving Samsung. i might get the nexus though. Google wallet might actually work. i have never seen so many duplicate threads, clueless users, and mods choosing when to enforce rules and when not to.

I'm selling mine as soon as it comes back from HTC, should be a brand new one. I won't open it and will sell it straight away and buy a S3.
f.
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Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol

muamers said:
Are you guys really sure the Samsung will not have bugs ?
I will stay with my OneX ... i am sure it will be better and better ... and i dnt want such a ugly phone in my pocket lol
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Yeah it is pretty nasty looking isn't it! I also don't like the idea of having 16gb base memory even if it is expandable. I much prefer the 32gb internal memory of the One X over Micro SD as it is so much quicker - and I dont need to fork out even more money for an SD card.
Hmmmm..... This is really annoying. Why couldnt you just get the phone right HTC!!??

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you aren't serious about the iPhone, aren't you ?
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Depends if its actually good. I have an upgrade with att. Will probably use it either way and if it doesn't look good ill just sell it off.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

The question is no different than asking "which should I buy, a M-B E Class or BMW 5 Series?" Both have strengths and weaknesses and neither is immune from issues.
The same applies to the One X vs. SGS3 comparison.
Here's a list of reasons why not to get a One X over a SGS3.
1) You like SAMOLED displays.
2) You need better battery life than the 1800mAh non-removable battery in the One X can provide.
3) You want removable storage.
4) You don't like the One X design or are partial to the SGS3's.
5) You like TouchWiz better than Sense.
6) HTC's new warranty policy for flashing third-party ROMs either scares you or pisses you off.
7) You fancy some of the s/w features like Direct Talk, S-Voice, and Smart Stay.
8) You use $300 plus headphones or have several thousands of dollars’ worth of home A/V equipment and the Wolfson DAC's important.
Here's a list of things that are going to be the same.
1) Initial build quality issues.
2) Initial s/w problems.
3) Variations from display-to-display.
4) Durability and longevity.
5) Excellent development support.
Voice calls, e-mail, MMS, social, and web browsing make up 70% of what people do with smartphones. In those areas it would be hard to tell the two phones apart. Happy decision making.
P.S. – For those on their 9th exchange, now hate HTC for whatever reason, or have expectations no phone ever produced could meet; there’s no need to re-post what you’ve most likely already posted a dozen times. I, and I’m sure others get it; the One X has some launch issues and because of that your life is forever altered.

sticking with it.. does everything I need and it's the sexiest phone on the market right now. so why would I need to move? Plus I'm on a 2 year contract so doesn't justify me breaking my contract or selling my phone for less than its actual worth.

@BarryH I think that's a little unfair. I wasn't trying to run through faults that have already been covered at great length elsewhere on the forum. Nor was I asking for a basic tally of pros and cons of S3 versus the One X.
My aim was to gauge the community's loyalty towards the One X given the faults and flaws that the device shipped with, and whether many would be making the switch over to the S3.
Also, the majority of the problems with the One X are not examples of people being overly picky or entitled - they are cases of the phone simply not doing what it was designed to do. Now I have no idea if or how long it will take HTC to fix them, but that is why I asked what peoples' thoughts about that where in the original post.
Thanks for responding

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@BarryH I think that's a little unfair.
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I wasn't faulting your original question. Sorry if it came across that way. The One X vs. SGS3 comparison/debate will be ongoing for most of the year. I was just trying to provide a check list for people on the fence. I'd guess most people leaving the One X would be going to the SGS3 anyway. I never did answer your original question. I'm getting a SGS3 and using it for a week or two before deciding which phone to keep. And not because I think there's anything wrong with the One X.

Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!

I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.

Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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Battery Life
Mouselik said:
Thanks for the info!
I'm testing it tomorow or the day after.
Whats your thoughts on the battery life?
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Battery life is surprisingly good for me. After the first couple days i easily get over 12 hours before reaching 20%. Must say i love that the phone drains almost no battery when listening to music in my experiences.

HyBry said:
I have had no problems with my One X, but from what I have read there are a few things you should check out before buying.
Check the wi-fi signal, GPS signal consistancy.
I think those 2 are the most common problems and the most annoying ones. I read also something about a gap between the screen and case, but not sure about it.
All of those can be checked out easily (10-20 minutes) before buying, so make sure you do that! You would not want to shell out 300 to find out wi-fi does not work, or you GPS is incredibly inacurate.
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The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.

Battery life there are days I think not bad and on others I ask myself what the hell? Despite having my phone for around 4 or 5 months I still do notice drops of 3-5% in battery life. I can't really make my mind up for this device. I can't tell if htc is going to improve anything on this device anymore or if that's just as good as it gets. It'll be best if you just end up expecting nothing from HTC. That will save you from having expectations that wont be met anyway.
Edit: by the way there is a battery life thread with a trillion posts in it. Just open it and come up with a conclusion yourself. Be warned though, you might see people with around 5 to 6 hours of screen time which seems really questionable to me. I would say the people posting screen times of anywhere between 2 to 4 hours 30 minutes screen time are legit.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
averygagaanroid said:
The wifi issue normally doesnt substantiate until a couple of weeks in use, and so does the screen flickering issue. So far popular know issues include:
1) Bad battery life (~ 2 hr of screen time)
2) Over heating after 5-10minutes in use
3) GPS issue
4) Screen flex issue
5) Screen flickering (mostly solved)
6) Antenna issue
7) 3G connection
8) Gaps
9) Sense issues
And before you buy this you should pray to your lucky star that you wont get a dud one. I've seen people on this forum going thru so much stress w HTC and this phone.
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One X user (Tegra version) since one week. Switched to the CM10 preview this weekend. Very good phone, battery life is on par with the rest. If you check the points mentioned above (also make sure the power and volume buttons are responsive), that sounds like a good deal. ROM community is very active, JB support already almost flawless. Also, the screen is the best I have seen on a phone so far.

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Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
Well, I come from the LG world of not giving a Sh!t about costumers...
How's the HTC support treating those cases?
You think it is a bad buy?
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Honestly I think HTC has been playing the blame games and time buying strategies to the extent of ignoring customers and treating like crap. But still better than LG as far as I have known. And as someone has said, if you want a better chance of getting a drama free phone better get the SGS3, as much as I hate Samsung. But you're not gonna have that beautiful hardware and AMAZING screen (funny how i say this since I dont own it lol).

This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
shadehh said:
Just go get a sgs3. You can expect a crappy design plus a display not as nice as the one x in my opinion. But you also get to have a better performance, little to no lag, much better battery life.probably less hardware faults etc. (You at least know what you can expect and you actually get it)
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Mouselik said:
This is a co-worker who's selling its ONE X, so no S3 option for me...
I'm having a lot of trouble in knowing what to focus on, because from what I see (read), there are issues (as with every single phone), and I think the important part is the support by HTC being good.
On that point (HTC support), what do you think? Any experience with them?
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Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been with htc for a much longer time. They seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper

Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
shadehh said:
Long term htc users: "HTC supporrt is great, they might lack a little at first, but sooner or later(probably they mean later) they will just nail the update properly and it will all function nicely."
first time HTC user(myself): i've yet to see any of the support and i honestly feel like i'm not in good hands but i'm still open for them to prove it. The only reason i haven't completely given up on htc is because of the people who have been using htc for a much longer time , they seem to have a much different opinion of HTC and their updates and what not.
Oh yeah, not to forget, rooting/flashing can void your warranty *HIGH FIVE*
in my opinion to have your HOX function properly, you're gonna want to root.
edit: since it's a co-worker you're probably going to be getting it cheaper, right? Which will probably make the OneX more worthy of its price.
First thing you're going to want to do is check if his bootloader says "unlocked" or "relocked" or "locked" - this would make it possible for you to lower the price and get it even cheaper
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Mouselik said:
Well on the update point, I think LG just trumps every single brand on the market... They simple don't give us any... LOL
Regarding the list of possible issues, do you think it can be easily observed? or its more of a wear-by-time kind of thing?
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Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo

Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
shadehh said:
Honestly! When i got this phone i was the happiest person on earth until i noticed a few problems here and there and this just ruined the overall user experience. There's something about this phone that tells me i want to keep it. Design is gorgeous, sometimes i just turn the phone around just to admire the awesome look of how it's built. When the problems start to pile up, however, you get really unsatisfied.
With later batches i heard the phone is supposed to be pretty good and problem-free. I believe the main issues that you won't see immediately is the WLAN issue and maybe a bit of a screen gap. Haven't really been hearing much of the flicker issues anymore.
How to notice the WiFi issue i'd suggest a google search or for you to look around @ xda forums. I don't really feel like explaining it. Actually, youtube should help you in this case --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKCJ4Ab2tIo
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Mouselik said:
Well, being a smartphone user for some time, I can relate with that feeling...
I'm going to buy it, sell my O3D, and may the gods of smartphone be with me!
Thank you so much for your help.
P.S. It will cost me €300, being that here in Pt, a new unlocked one costs €700...
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In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion

Hehe. It was my jedi mind trick to allure you guys to the discussion!
shadehh said:
In this case, the phone is well worth it's price. Had you stated that in the beginning i think no one here would have even wanted to start a discussion
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, anything that goes wrong will be covered by the warranty anway.

Mouselik said:
Hi everyone!
I'm a LG O3D user (with great regrets...) and I have the possibility of a (almost) new ONE X, unbranded for €300.
I know that every phone as its issues, and I've read the foruns in search of those issues in the ONE X, but wanted to have a deeper insight on the everyday life with this one.
I really like HTC and having owned a Hero, and knowing the support (at least here in Pt) is good, I'm really thinking of it.
Thank you very much!
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Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Well,
The seller (co-worker and friend) reports none of the liste issues. No wi-fi problem, no screen problem, and general usage with no hick-ups.
Is used it for about a month. And, furtunatly for me, he's more of an iPhone guy hehe
theDroidfanatic said:
Buying a new one will have less chances of defects, as new models are more bugfree
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
What is happening?

seriously a new post for this? its been discussed in many threads
everyone hates HTC for the lack of SD expansion despite the big storage, the battery issues despite rushing for the slim SGS2 last year which seems to have confused HTC about which is more imporant, they also hate it for not providing OTA faster than google
and the defects on the One X early launch and the US import block from apple on the One series
finally HTC can't afford the mass advertising of samsung
so yea, we all wanted HTC down and it is going down

SweDunda said:
HTC Phone sales: 7,3 m
HTC Pkone sales drop: -42,5%
This is only in the Q3 2012 !
What is happening?
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You wonder about it? I don't. HTC does the same mistakes over and over again, losing customers, maintaining their bad image.

its ok they are going back to their windows root as you can see by their 8x

Also S-On. That alone has caused many to not buy HTC devices anymore. I won't be buying their devices that are S-On ever again. (Not that you care what I think, just if enough people think like I do....their sales will drop even more)...
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Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

I am really sorry I honestly don't find the point about this thread.
If HTC goes bankrupt that is their thing, or are you their spy sent here to discuss and try to convince us to buy more of "your" product?
Too bad you fai....

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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:good: super post

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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oh my god this guy is spot on. exactly what i wanted to say for a long time, to be honest i think they died mostly because of marketing, i dont see much of HTC's marketing compare to Samsung, everyone agree the HOX is an awesome phone but not so many people know about it, combined with the money lost from buying Beats. I'm kind of tired of people *****ing about sense, 32gb is not much, no sd card, removable battery, seriously MOST normal user (not the geek like us here on XDA) dont care about those things, oh yeah and one more thing, i love sense. LOL

Possibly also gonna be one of my last phone by HTC - for now... My phone is getting repaired for 250 euros and then i'm going to sell it for 250 euros (basically giving it away without profit). I already have a buyer and i will get the nexus 4 from google for only 300 euros. (i'm only doing this because it costs me 50$ more to get a nexus 4, since i have to get it repaired either way, eh?). If the nexus4 didn't have such a great money/specification ratio i would have probably stayed one x.
pros: I love htc's design, i love sense, it does feel different.
cons:
Their UI is good, but it comes with consequences, sadly due to my screen breaking i don't think i'll be experiencing sense with jelly bean. As good as 2.17 has gotten, IMO it's not there yet in terms of performance. I can't describe how much the app drawar annoys the living crap out of me. (I think JB fixes it though)
Display is wonderful, but why in their right mind would they put a 1800 mAh battery in a quadcore phone with a 40nm processor? I monitor my battery whenever i use it as if there's no tomorrow. You end up reaching a point where you think, okay can't touch this or that. Might get a sporadic % drop that will leave me with nearly no juice at all.
Even before rooting my phone, it would drop by 5 sometimes even more % at a time. This fault seems to not only be in the one x, but it also seems to show same crappy stats on the HTC Cha Cha(given to me by my provider) which i'm using now till my one x comes back.
IMO they seem to be doing a lot of things right and well, but if you are doing more wrong than right then that's where a company has two think twice about what they are doing.
That's not to say that other companies do not have their problems. Samsung has its faults too. But i feel as though with that company the wrongs don't outweigh the rights. I feel as though they(HTC) still haven't learned about simple things. I remember reading their blog about how important a thin phone is. It is important, but those 0.2~3 mm for the sake of a little bit more battery would satisfy users much more than having a device with 0.2~0.3mm less thickness and therefor less battery.
There's a reason they are not earning money and they should look into it asap.
edit: this seems like a rant. No! I honestly have not seen a nicer screen than the one on my ONE X. But despite the gorgeous screen i can't see it justifying those few faults by htc. (One thing i must admit - once i went SLCD2 i can't convince myself to go back to amoled that's one of the only main reasons i've also considered for going with the nexus4 is also because of the IPS screen which is said to be good. If it were amoled i honestly would have canceled this decision and stayed with the one x this round)
This is my first HTC device, and this is the opinion of a first time HTC user. Me and a friend had WiFi issues and screen gap etc. etc.
This doesn't leave us with a good taste in our mouth. I can really imagine long term users wanting to stay with HTC and that's understandable. This small mistake at the beginning though, has left people still worried about buying an htc one x to date. Still posts pop up about concerns. The first impression is the most important - especially to users wanting to convert to a new company - and as a company that was already in a bit of a trouble they really messed it up this time around. Lets hope htc does it right with tegra 4 a15s. Maybe faith can be restored. Hope it gets back on track because a world with samsung and apple only would suck major balls.

Zlotin said:
Just to be clear with s-off and sh-t.
I have 3 android devices now, and I have had over 10. Now I can say, that flashing on HTC is pretty easy. And I really mean easy. I mean, go and flash Acer iconia tab a500. If you'll back in 3 hours, I'll give you a cookie.
If you really bothered, that you need to connect phone to PC every time you flash it, go and buy nexus. It will make much more sense.
HTC is the best manufacturer in my. Sammy has access to the crank accessories like displays, memory, CPUs, but HTC still can fight Sammy. All other manufacturers are half dead now (Sony, Nokia, Motorola, LG).
There some massive problems in the management, some troubles with quality control.
And you believe me, if HTC would grain access to s-off, it will make 4,3% of users happy. And if they'll push jb 4.2 ota a week before Sammy, it will make 2% more customers happy.
Again, HTC's problem is getting "adult" phone manufacturer, and not the geek-smartphone designer it was 5 years ago. And it can be, that one of the reasons of it, are the people like you, guys, who are most visible in Internet, who want f-cking mega-wunder-device with fastest updates.
Period
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One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.

always wise my friend shehadeh

HTC used to be the top...
My kaiser, my N1,, and now my Senny, are all real good phones.
The sensation form factor with the curve edge screen and removable battery/entire case should have been the standard going forward.
Unfortunately, they are not pushing out anything ground breaking anymore, just following the curve, not creating it, not to mention, their ads really suck compared to the Samsung ones.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk 2

omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
thekillingroad said:
One thing, dunno if any of you agree.
Those 4,3% and 2% customers are the ones who talk on and on about smartphones on the internet.
Which causes, rumours.. self advertisement.. and I think the resources spent on granting the happiness of these communities will do no harm, in finance or whatsoever.
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It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
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No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.

thekillingroad said:
No sorrys, I called all of us nerds couple of times in the JB thread =)
I did recommend an iPhone to my own sister, to her husband, to a random guy who just asked stuff about my HD2 in an elevator of a mall.. etc Of course what I meant was not misleading ppl, but I think you did get the idea of what I meant by saying the self advertisement.
exactly what I was trying to say that they are coming from geek area, and they should not lose this while trying to sail into oceans.
Ok staying in the geek area is not that profitable at all for a large company, but forgetting it also is not a good way too.
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You know, in marketing theory, it`s even needed to have fanbase of market`s pioneers, but mobile area is to specific. You see it with apple. They going straight to the consumers, passing all the pioneers

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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I'm assuming hox is HTC one x ?
Ads are very influential in certain ways for the mainstream. I remember seeing the ad for the sensation, with the little girl playing the piano, wondering what the point was. Samsung is doing very well at being the anti-Apple.
Another problem is that Samsung and lg make other products besides phones, which can influence their buying decisions, like TVs and washers. What else does HTC make?
I love HTC, but honestly, in a month or so, I'm picking up either an N4, or a GN2.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using Tapatalk 2

Its just the marketing, you all hate iPhone but that makes the most money does it run android no, but people still buy it you lot are not the average tech consumers. HTC is doing bad because of marketing due to the lack of spending money. They spent their money on the wrong things. You cannot compare apple and samsung to HTC, a smartphone manufacturer you idiots. Someone said they are not doing well because of the lack of sd card and s-off you must be seriously stupid. After reading all of these comments I can tell you all one thing business lessons didn't do you a favour did it. I'am a business student I have experience believe me it's just marketing and brand image.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

After service very suck in my country.
You can only sell me one time!
Repaire part very expensive!
Used to love this brand but not anymore.
Wifi problem,broken color in phone's body,USB problem,battery sucker.
No warranty cause unlocked bootloader but you never check my phone yet but only telling unlock you will never check anything.
Bye bye.

Zlotin said:
omfg, i even came to the laptop due posts in this thread...
It is only half of the truth. Yeah, the people like us are irl usually pioneers of technologies, but the half of us are nerds. I`m sorry, but it so. And those who are posting all 2 minutes in jb thread are the worst of them.
As for me, i allways recommend those phones, which pass to the person, whom I recommend it. And, if you believe or not, I do even recommend iPhone some times.
HTC is the manufacturer, who came from geek area and they are still trying not to loose those auditory. If they do it good is another question...
@mrbkkt1
Man, don`t You know, marketing and management are not only the ads?
Look, the worst move in my eyes was bringing hox so early to the end user. They could take one month extra and release it with a firmware equal to 2.17. In his first month, HOX was one of the worst phones out there: Screen Flickering, VERY bad battery times, many issues in perfomance...In most benchmarks it is still listed with old software, with newer builds it blows SGS3 and all other phones out there.
Another failure was to go after the slimness. I think, it was a wish of top managers, making the hox so slim and light. I would really LOVE my HOX, if it was 3mm thicker with 2300 battery. I would even pay extra, and the most non-emotional buyers would do it to, i think.
Sense is another point, where htc is in their own sh-t. The widgets are very nice, i even prefer the lock screen, but the notification and app drawers are far behind of ICS. They could save money or let programmers work on the new updates, instead of working on porting this crap. Although there are some really great features like get started...
So, like You can see, the problems are much deeper, than ads...
And You can`t say new HTCs are worse than the old ones. HTC Neo was a big fail in my eyes, Universal or Touch Cruise. They where all not good. But at the same time there was Blueangel, a masterpiece, or htc hd2...
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Maybe we are a small percentage of users...but as someone else mentioned, we do influence family and friends buying habits. Not only that but I've seen quite a few devs drop HTC devices for Samsung BECAUSE of the locked bootloaders.
There are 4 million xda users. If a small percentage of us influence others it does add up. All of these decisions add up.
Sent from somewhere....if I could only remember where....