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Hello, its my first post and i hope its not the last one. I would like to know if there are any apps that reduce the battery usage from the screen. Most of the time when i check my battery use in the setting, it always shows me that the display is using more than 50% and sometimes 80% of the battery. My phone brightness is always set to the minimum, also the life of my battery runs out so quickly. So any recommendation will be great thanks.
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Hello, its my first post and i hope its not the last one. I would like to know if there are any apps that reduce the battery usage from the screen. Most of the time when i check my battery use in the setting, it always shows me that the display is using more than 50% and sometimes 80% of the battery. My phone brightness is always set to the minimum, also the life of my battery runs out so quickly. So any recommendation will be great thanks.
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Black background, use Launcher Pro, hide notification bar, slide away your page and dock, totalblack screen when on.
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1. Turn off ambient mode
2. Set brightness to 1
3. Limit screen on time by disabling notifications on apps you don't really need to view from the watch, and always covering the display to turn off manually when you are done looking at it.
tcollum said:
1. Turn off ambient mode
2. Set brightness to 1
3. Limit screen on time by disabling notifications on apps you don't really need to view from the watch, and always covering the display to turn off manually when you are done looking at it.
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thanks!
Also, if you leave it in its charger, and don't use it, it's battery will stay at 100%.
Use a watch face that doesn't have a second hand.
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1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter
Alcoholic said:
1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter
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Actually getting a 3rd party watch face that doesn't have a second hand or animation helps battery life a lot.
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Actually getting a 3rd party watch face that doesn't have a second hand or animation helps battery life a lot.
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I concur! Installed custom watch with no "seconds hand", ambient mode is ON, 8am to 10pm drains to 30-35%! Standard Minimal watch face with the same options = 10% at the end of day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/moto-360-2-day-battery-test-graphs-t2880565/page2
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Has anyone tried Wear Battery Saver app?
http://tinyurl.com/lkua8dk
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1. Don't use a watch face that didn't come from motorola pre installed. Wait for google to open it up to developers. Right now the way the watch faces work is through apps and that uses more battery.
2. Ambient off
3. Turn off any crazy notifications you get on your phone that you dont care about like twitter
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Actually the notification I care more about it is Twitter.?
kandelai said:
Has anyone tried Wear Battery Saver app?
http://tinyurl.com/lkua8dk
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haven't tried it...doesnt seem too convincing to me.
Try downloading mini wear launcher. If you swipe left to right twice you can dim the screen to super dim. I use it when i'm in the office so i dont have a super bright screen for no reason.
The only thing that's made a noticeable difference for me has been turning off ambient mode. For the last week I've been wearing the watch for about 17 hours / day. At the end of the day I usually have 25 - 40% left in the tank. Today I decided to try it with ambient mode on. I'm 10 hours in and I'm already at 38%. So it makes a big difference to me. That's still not bad since I'm averaging 6% / hour so I could potentially make it last my normal 17 hours. But it's a bit too close.
Also, I know I can drop it on the charger for 10 minutes and I'll pick up another 10 - 15% or 2 hours of ambient or 3 - 4 of non-ambient time.
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haven't tried it...doesnt seem too convincing to me.
Try downloading mini wear launcher. If you swipe left to right twice you can dim the screen to super dim. I use it when i'm in the office so i dont have a super bright screen for no reason.
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I've tried that super dim mode. It seems to be pretty good indoors, but I can't see ANYTHING outside. I wish the auto-brightness was able to use it though so I don't have to manually switch it.
With ambient off, how accurate the watch screen will wake up when you bring your wrist up see the screen?
Stop using your watch like a phone
Can you tell us what watchface from 3rd party you use that doesn't have second end
Thx.
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Can you tell us what watchface from 3rd party you use that doesn't have second end
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If you are using facer, here are a few hundred to choose from: http://facerepo.com/app/
PsychDrummer said:
I've tried that super dim mode. It seems to be pretty good indoors, but I can't see ANYTHING outside. I wish the auto-brightness was able to use it though so I don't have to manually switch it.
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Autobrightness does use the super dim mode for me. If I'm indoors and there's not a lot of lighting changing the brightness to 1 will usually make my screen brighter.
Even if you use a face with a second hand in facer, just delete the second hand layer and all is good
http://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2la6cg/noticed_i_can_get_my_moto_360_to_last_24_days/
A rudamentary discussion is over at the link above about an idea a couple of us have. The short of it is that with the ability to build profiles from an app on your phone, you could disable notifications/bluetooth (on the phone)/ ambient/ etc and that has been shown to dramatically improve battery life ( up to 3 days ). I'm curious if a developer with a Wear device would entertain the idea of putting something like this together. I would be happy to pay for an application that could make these types of adjustments through definable profiles, and I suspect many others would as well.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Quick update. Battery life on the watch is improved by ~40% in a controlled test by disabling bluetooth on the paired phone. More details on the thread at Reddit.
Wtf is the point of disabling Bluetooth on the phone? The watch can't do what it's supposed to do then?
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I don't think that can be accurate. I've found that my watch has much worse battery life when not paired, as it is constantly searching for a bluetooth device to pair with... Maybe they mean airplane mode. But if that's the case, the watch is barely more featured than any normal old watch....
As discussed in the thread @ Reddit, the idea is that we're often in a situation where you don't need the watch. If I'm sitting at my desk, I have Chrome open, have my phone in front of me on a dock, etc. Using the watch is cumbersome if I already have my hands on a keyboard and mouse. Therefore, draining 7-12% per hour is a waste. If you consider that many of us are in a position for 6-8 hours a day where the watch will not be used, and the lifespan of the watch is anywhere from 12-18 hours, than turning off bluetooth can mean your watch may last longer than 24 hours and be more effective when you do require it.
This may not apply to you. But it will for many.
As for its effectiveness, I've done it two days in a row now. Using Wear Battery Stats, the results are consistently 40%+ reduction in battery discharge.
so what would be the conditions for matching the profile? meetings? GPS location? times of day?
also, you'd have to have an app present on the watch itself to make this functional, which would limit you to solely duration of time. so technically you'd be limited to the appointments on your calendar - but if you're in airplane mode, is this even possible?
i think the phone could issue a command to the watch to go to airplane mode, but how to get it back out is a bit more complicated. time is the only factor that i can think of. if you move locations, leave your desk, etc., you'd have to manually set it out of airplane, which is not something that interests me.
i'm still waiting for the ability to turn off teh motion sensor.
I just did a logical cheap DIY. (it does not put a stress in the battery)
I put my charger dock to my TIMER wall plug.
I wake up everyday at 05:45. When I go to sleep I have about 25% battery life, I put the watch on my dock and do not charge it.
At 04:00 my wall charger turns automatically ON and starts charging my watch, When I wake up it's 100% . Moto 360 did NOT charge all night, and it goes from about 10% - 20% (witch is almost best ) to 100%.
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I just did a logical cheap DIY. (it does not put a stress in the battery)
I put my charger dock to my TIMER wall plug.
I wake up everyday at 05:45. When I go to sleep I have about 25% battery life, I put the watch on my dock and do not charge it.
At 04:00 my wall charger turns automatically ON and starts charging my watch, When I wake up it's 100% . Moto 360 did NOT charge all night, and it goes from about 10% - 20% (witch is almost best ) to 100%.
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1. not sure how this relates to the OP.
2. isn't the battery "sweet spot" 80-40%? theoretically reducing the battery to 10% puts more wear on the battery than charging overnight? what if you switched your timer to charge first, then disable?
Yes. What I'm envisioning at bare minimum would be:
- An application on the smart watch that can disable bluetooth locally. That way you can keep it on the phone for your car stereo, headphone, etc features. This could be used through Google Voice (Tap screen and say "Open Sleep Now" or whatever). Also have the ability to open from any standard launcher such as "Wear Mini Launcher" or a Swipe command so you can quickly enable it when you sit down at your desk.
- The application on the smart watch includes the ability to force dim the screen or show a black screen like Slumber until you press/hold the button or press the screen to wake it.
- The application on the smart watch would have a feature to keep bluetooth turned off/screen turned off until the watch detects feedback from the accelerometer that there is significant and consistent movement over X period of time. This would help some people configure it not to go off while at their desk but while walking around the office/home/etc.
A more advanced version could offer additional features from the smartphone such as location awareness based on Wifi/GPS, but my understanding is that such a feature would burn through the smartphone battery. If not, then the ability to disable bluetooth on the smartphone based on location or detection of wifi APs would be another way to approach this. However, I believe that many people would find the first few feature recommendations above beneficial enough.
i hadn't considered the accelerometer but i think it will be tricky to get it right. i feel like the watch would be turning off/on the BT a LOT. sorry to sound so pessimistic - i think some test cases are warranted here.
your last point i just don't see feasible given the limitations of the watch. sacrifice the phone battery for the watch battery doesn't sound like an ideal situation and I'm not convinced it would be effective at reducing battery usage on the watch either.
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i hadn't considered the accelerometer but i think it will be tricky to get it right. i feel like the watch would be turning off/on the BT a LOT. sorry to sound so pessimistic - i think some test cases are warranted here.
your last point i just don't see feasible given the limitations of the watch. sacrifice the phone battery for the watch battery doesn't sound like an ideal situation and I'm not convinced it would be effective at reducing battery usage on the watch either.
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Agreed. Again, at bare minimum, if I had a bluetooth/wireless toggle switch on the smartwatch, that would be a huge benefit. I could turn it off while driving and sitting at my desk.
Also, as discussed on reddit, it does not only apply to bluetooth on and off. With profiles, you can turn off HR monitor, step counter, etc when you're seated at the office and just turn it back on when you leave. It can also be scheduled (if you leave office at 5pm, start the profile that enables most services by 4:30pm).
For me, the 8 hours a day that I work, I don't need email or social apps notifying me on my watch since I have a computer in front of me the whole time. I also don't need the HR triggering every so often. At the bare minimum, I just need calendar reminders and SMS via hangouts. If there is a way to set "Office" profile scheduled every 9am to 5pm then revert back to the default profile outside of those times, it would be great.
All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
frigidazzi said:
All I can find are vague descriptions. Nothing saying what exactly it's doing. From my experience thus far it's doing nothing. I am not getting better battery.
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From what I know it lowers the CPU clock speed and decreases brightness. All with the intent of saving battery.
I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I read that while it DOESN'T limit the CPU, it does lower the brightness and cuts out your data/BT/location/NFC in order to preserve the little bit of battery.
Edit: And syncs.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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I don't think it actually does any of that though. I have been using it a lot the past few days half on half off. I still get all MMS and emails right away plus my photos are syncing with google. My brightness doesn't change (auto or not). plus I have BT and WIFI on all the time for smart watch and of course data usage . Maybe the processor, but im not even sure of that. Guess I could do benchmarks with it on and off and see. I just feel like this feature is doing nothing at this time. On my nexus 5 I could really see the processor throttle and brightness him with battery saver.
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Mine only does that under 15% battery. Seems like its doing nothing over that.
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The default is under 15% and when it kicks in, i definitely notice a difference in the phone.
You can change it to immediately from 15% and i bet you will notice a difference at any battery percentage.
Cpu speed is not affected, just checked this.
Brightness was indeed cut off considerably, haven't checked for other things yet :good:
I figured out why it wasn't working for me. Simply clicking the icon to green in the pull down only enables it when it gets before 15 percent. Didn't force it on now like I thought it was.
Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Why is there so little discussion on this feature? I found very few threads on this and this was the most active conversation even though it is so old. I found out today I could enable this feature at anytime, not just at 5 or 15%. So I have it enabled at 100% battery and testing today. Upon enabling battery saver mode and restrict idle apps, the screen immediately went dim. I turned it back up slightly. I also noticed apps acting different. Toggling between apps is quicker and the animations are gone. Also, I'm using chrome and it's acting different. It's hard to explain, but if I'm navigating from one website to another, it is feels like it is refreshing every time, it doesnt feel faster. Im not sure what it is doing but someone with more experience will probably be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It's not standard chrome behavior.
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Not sure with the Chrome part of it. I use a different browser. With FireFox everything feels about the same as before.
I also noticed the animations are removed so there is no fancy domino effect or sliding going on. It's all instant and to be honest it feels heck of a lot quicker this way.
Screen is much more dim and is extremely conservative for the most part.
Clock speed is the same. Although I wonder if there is some sort of under the hood change such as MPDecision switching over to battery saving mode. It personally makes no sense to leave it as is considering in the past it use to cap the clock speed.
So using battery saver today along with restrict apps in background, the former definitely shuts down background data. I noticed Google play store not authenticating paid for apps. I had to go to the play store to launch the app and re-authenticate. That is where I received the warning that background data is off. I have a weather widget and that does not appear to be updating as that uses background data. I have a barometer widget and that does appear to be working as that uses sensor data. All that is required to re-enable background data is to uncheck restrict background apps under the battery saver mode. As of right now, I am at 71% battery and 2 hours 14 minutes screen on time, 3 hrs 53 minutes on the battery. I'm mostly using chrome while screen is on and podkicker and listened to about an hour of audio and a little bit of teamspeak usage with my Bluetooth headset. Brightness is at 37% which is pretty dim in this mode. I'd say it's equal to 15% in regular mode bit good enough to see.
Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
It saves battery
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Update, I went all the way to 25% battery remaining yesterday and I had right at 5 hour SOT. In my opinion, this mode is not worth the hassle. Background data is off and that breaks a few things. Screen is pretty dim and I ended up turning it up anyway. I have had similar battery life in the past anyway. I have had 7 hours 20 minutes of SOT before without this mode on and all my widgets working. I'm going to leave this mode off.
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yup..i feels like the batrey saving mode is draining more batrey life than not using it..is there a solution for this ?
I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Edit: Based on responses below, it has been fixed.
Here is exactly what I did that solved my battery life issues after 5.1.1 update. I don't know if all steps necessary but is what worked for me...
- Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Forget Watch at bottom of screen
- Phone App Manager in Settings, Select Android Wear - Clear Data, Clear Cache, Uninstall App. Also uninstall Moto Connect app.
- Check Bluetooth, unpair watch if still there. Turn off Bluetooth.
- Reboot Phone (Do this, I missed this step and had issues)
- Do a factory/hard reset on Watch from Watch Settings
- On phone, turn on Bluetooth after rebooted.
- Install this version of Android Wear (this may not be required but is what I did)...
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...roid-wear-1-1-1-1956917-android-apk-download/
- Setup as if new watch
- Check battery level over time and hopefully 'Watch Idle' is on top of list
- After confirming battery drain resolved....
- Goto Android Wear, Settings>Moto360 Connected>Resync apps
I now get well over a 24 hours battery life with many apps installed and complex Watchmaker Pro face - everything turned on except WiFi, ambient screen. Watch Idle shows as top item in Battery level screen.
I eventually let Android Wear app update under Google Play and all was fine. It may not be necessary to install older version first but is what I did.
I have had the same results. I used to sleep with my watch on and the battery would drain about 18% in 7 hours. Since installing 5.1.1, my battery life is much worse. This morning i woke and only had 2% charge left. Today I went from 8:30am to 2:30pm and had 39% charge left with minimal use, so it burns around 10% an hour.
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I had good battery life before 5.1.1 despite many apps loaded including WatchMaker Pro. Was able to get through end of day and then some.
After 5.1.1 update can't get more than 7 hours. I tried completely resetting watch, removing/reinstalling Android Wear/Moto apps from phone and clearing BT. Tried removing many apps, turned off WiFi, turned off card flip, ambient off, even turned off flip to wake which I had on before. There are less battery munching things installed and more functions turned off yet much lower battery life.
Battery Level indicator shows...
- Android Wear 8%
- Bluetooth 6%
- Android System 4%
- Screen 3%
I saw post about clearing everything off phone and starting over, which I've done.
Any suggestions?
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Is there an app syncing data to your watch (Play Music) or anything? Here are my stats so far today:
- Idel 8%
- Android Wear 4%
- Android System 3%
- Screen 3%
- Bluetooth 2%
- Wifi 1%
(I had 4 other apps at 1% each that I did not list)
I have had my watch off the charger for 9 hours and lost 37% battery (4.1% and hour). The only thing I see is that your Bluetooth and Android Wear seem high, which would make me think there is some app syncing data to the watch.
Unninstall the Android wear APK that updated on June 18 on your phone, install the May 26 APK and deny the auto update feature, this worked for me.
With the update the watch lost 10% in 1 hour now it loses 10% in 7 hours
the link for the android wear apk is:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/
Thanks all. I reset watch again, installed older version of Wear above and rebooted phone (important step I didn't do before). Am now getting 24+ hours even with a complex Wacthmaker Pro face I created that shows heartrate/steps/weather and 10 other stats. Am happy camper again. Watch Idle is now highest on battery activity.
BTW, Android Wear updated in Google Play to latest version and still great battery life.
7 hours is great. Mine died in 45 minutes. I got up - took it off the charger - it was at 100% - 45 mins later it had 12% left and a minute later died. I'll see how it goes tomorrow but 45 mins of battery time for a relatively new device is insane. It says that 98% of the battery is used by Android Wear.
The battery drained in 3 hours of no use, wtf happened? any idea?
I posted exactly what I did to solve my problem in the second half of the first post.
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
hoangtu2410 said:
how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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Go to Android Wear app on phone, Settings gear icon>Moto360 Connected>watch battery
edit: Seems odd it's so deeply hidden but the reason is because they now support multiple Wear devices so you have to select which device you want to see stats on even though most only have one.
I just bought it today but my batery life is just horrible. I updated to 5.0.2 and I don't think I should install 5.1.1.
This is what happends:
- I charge to 100%
- after 1 hour its dead.
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how can i see the battery level ??/ Just bought a new one
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drop down on the watch or open the android wear app tap the gear at the top right then select moto 360 and there is an option that reads watch battery.
Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
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Since the update I can't seem to get to bed with the 20 per cent of battery I used to. I have tilt, ambient, gestures, wifi and auto brightness on. Should I turn off wifi or something?
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Check battery level in Wear app and if Screen is high, it might be tilt, ambient, auto brightness. I'm not sure where WiFi shows up, maybe as Android System. I have WiFi turned off, would think it would be biggest battery muncher. Ambient also known to munch.
do you know how to remove moto heart rate software without root ?
I've been having really good luck with battery life considering. I lose about 3% an hour on Bluetooth and about 4% an hour on WiFi. I can't take my connected phone to work so I use another phone to create a hotspot. My watch spends about 9 hours straight on WiFi and I am having better than expected results. Tilt on. Ambient off. 180 min WiFi timeout. Stock rotate watch face. Auto brightness.
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I've got no issues with the watch on 5.1.1, but my Samsung S6 has been hit hard with the latest Android Wear app... fk me.. I used to get almost 5 hrs SOT, but now its just on 3.5hrs..
I think the watch/software is just buggy. Like today I got out at 10AM and it's now 11PM and it still has 58% battery. The other day it died in less than an hour.
PS: Perhaps it should be restarted every now and then. Reminds me of old times with Windows 98. Restart usually fixed lots of problems.
After doing the whole process of deleting apps, resetting the watch and pair the watch to the handset the battery lasted 2 and a half days