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Hi all,
Was just looking around the internet for keyboard options for the Pixel C (I'm not a huge fan of Google's ones) and came across the Brydge Air .
Granted the Pixel C is slightly taller (179mm) and thinner (5.5 mm) than most iPads, but pretty close to the iPad pro 9.7 (it's 9.5mm taller).
Size differences aside, would the keyboard work for android? it is after all just a Bluetooth keyboard.
I'm also open to suggestions too.
Thank's everyone.
have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3358417
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Hi All,
I saw a video review of the new c pen Samsung released for the tabpro S windows tablet. I can't embed a link, but it's on youtube. Turns out, it works very well with the S7edge. With the price of the S7 edge dropping and samsung essentially re-releasing this phone with a pen (Note7), I thought maybe for some users it might be worthwhile to consider buying the cheaper S7 edge plus the c pen. You save money, can port the grace UX rom and basically have a note7. Yes, the pen does not fit in the phone, but aside from that and the restricted iris scanner, is this a bad idea? I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
cheers,
Rekil
Bad idea is not a good way to put it. I'd say more so that it is comparing a mouse to a elephant. The note 7 has features that the s7 does not have the s pen functionality is priceless if you need it. The iris scanner is for security of unlocking the device itself, also for protection of passport banking ect in a folder you can only access and even hide. I would say the note 7 is the better of the two.
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matsuyamakaze said:
Bad idea is not a good way to put it. I'd say more so that it is comparing a mouse to a elephant. The note 7 has features that the s7 does not have the s pen functionality is priceless if you need it. The iris scanner is for security of unlocking the device itself, also for protection of passport banking ect in a folder you can only access and even hide. I would say the note 7 is the better of the two.
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I think you're grossly exaggerating. The hardware is 100% identical. Hardly befitting of a mouse vs elephant. With the Grace UX rom you get all the same pen features, just select manually. So, nothing missing. Finally, for one to believe the hype regarding the first gen tech of iris scanner, which samsung themselves point out is extremely restrictive,is highly naive. How good was the first gen fingerprint tech on the Note 4? Besides, the security can probably be achieved using the fingerprint anyways.
Having said all that, I'm still getting the Note7!
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Nope. You're comparing a capacitive stylus using s/w to approximate pressure and location to a Wacom digitizer. The display not the pen is what makes a Note a Note. More here.
http://www.howtogeek.com/177376/not...ual-capacitive-wacom-and-bluetooth-explained/
Yeah your Edge screen isn't going to suddenly sense 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity and let you hover your pen over the screen to access drop down menus, etc.
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As long as i know is the answer is No! S Pen stylus won't work on others than Galaxy Note series itself. Because all the Note series have an additional screen layer in their LCD Digitizer which allows the S Pen stylus that comes with them to work. So the answer is NO LAYER NO STYLUS SUPPORT.
I am going to change my Nexus 5X this month and I was wondering what it the best option for me; my main interest is the camera; Pixel 2 shows an amazing camera, S8 too, and it include manual controls from scratch (thats a plus).
By the other hand the S8 has more Ram, SD slot and a very interesting display, plus, in my country the S8 is cheaper than the Pixel 2 (5" 64gb)
The Pixel 2 has a classic 16:9 display, more bezel, that is not a problem for me, but Im not fan of the black navbar in amoled (oled in this case) displays, the S8 has a white navbar and I guess that it helps to avoid burn in; Im sure that the Pixel 2 will be super fast and I love the stock android experience (I have been using Nexus since Galaxy Nexus, so, stock Android is basically the UI that I love haha))
This is a hard choise for me, I could go for more "flexible" and maybe interesting technology (S8) or I could go for an amazing user experience in a really nice design with and amazing camera and more simple options.
Whats your opinion? Pixel 2 XL should be perfect but it is way more expensive here and for that money I could just go for the S8 plus.
For me:
S8: *more atractive display design
*white navbar that helps prevent burn in
*more ram
*Sd slot
*really nice design, compact and accessories easy to find everywhere
*manual camera built in
Pixel 2: *amazing camera
*stock UI
*(maybe) faster in terms of usage
cons: - less screen-to-body ratio than my actual 5X
- no SD
- no manual controls
- black navbar
- no wider display
- less ram (and more expensive device)
Get S8! Vendors will give you almost all the features of stock android plus additional features that only they can provide. Pixel2 camera must be good, but S8 camera is not less than any other smartphone camera. Water resistance, infinity display, iris scanner, headphone jack and wireless charging are some of the features that you won't get in pixel2.
RAM is 4GB for both
iris scanner, and all that stuff it is cool to show off but after a week all go back to finger print
manual controls only drain battery
SD card is cool, can't argue with it
UPDATES - pixel will get updates for a couple of years, s8 will get updates until s9 is released
pixel is not that good looking but if you are happy with a nexus 5x I don't see a reason why you can't get used to pixel 2
Thank you guys and thanks for clarify the ram info.
Yes, both phones are amazing, Pixel 2 doesnt have a really long life (I know it cuz Im a Nexus user since 2013); a plus for the S8 is that in my country it costs 100 less than the Pixel 2 (5")
Manual camera is a feature that I really like (I have the upside down problem with the N5X with third party camera apps haha, kinda annoying and long exposure almost always fails and force close the app)
I love my Nexus 5X but I had a problem with it and the guarranty gave me back a 16Gb version WHEN I bought the 32gb version, and well, sometimes when I take pictures in HDR the camera doesnt respond that fast and sometimes HDR pictures doesnt save (Im sure that is due to ram memory) Im absolutly sure that with S8 or Pixel 2 the camera will always works like a charm; but anyways is a hard decition, I have a few day to decide, maybe i could check some reviews of the Pixel 2 first before decide, I tried the S8 and I had a really nice experience, but I want to know how it will works with a lot of apps, my N5X work flawless all time, the little problem with the camera is not always, just sometimes when I use ZSL HDR.
I'm all for a vanilla experience. When I used HTC and Samsung's phones before I would install close to stock ROMs all the time. However, if you can get the S8 for same or less than the Pixel 2 then yeah it's a better deal. Personally, I went with the Pixel 2 XL.
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for the beginning you will love the s8 and the Samsung features but it does not take long time and you will miss the pure Android and the possibilities of developers. after a few months, you do not feel like the hundreds of Samsung apps that monitor everything and run in the background.
you can install pure Android on the s8 too
but for that you do not need the s8.
for me would be the pixel 2 the favorite phone [emoji6]
In my book, the S8 beats Pixel 2 because for one, the S8 proves that you can have have an incredibly thin, light, bezel-free, waterproof phone with a headphone jack. S8 proves that the arguments presented by Apple and Pixel apologists are false. You can have it all, and a headphone jack. On the other hand, I am not a fan of S8's screen because its curves on the edges. So we have a phone that has a high native resolution resulting in such dpi that the human eye won't discern against either QHD or FHD, and yet we have to put up with the incredibly bad and clearly visible distortion at the edges of the screen? Where is the logic?
So I'd personally get myself a Oneplus 5 or the original Pixel, specially if Google offers good deals on it, now that they need to clear the space for Pixel 2.
Im still waiting for a full review of the Pixel 2 / Pixel 2 XL and a real usage camera review.
Right now I would like to buy the Pixel 2, but seems that the S8 is a better option and at least in my country, way cheaper
I would definitely choose pixel 2. I love the google experience!
I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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Who's going to have an opinion on a device that has not been released yet?
For me it came down to durability. I work in construction, so an all-glass body like the Note8 would be less durable and more prone to breakage than the Pixel 2's aluminum body.
Pixel 2 XL just because of better performance becasue of stock Android.
Touchwiz (Samsung Experience) is biggest crap with micro laggs and big laggs after time ..
Never gonna buy samsung in the near future again.
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I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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I don't think you can go wrong with either. It will pretty much come down to vanilla, timely and guaranteed updates or the extras the Note 8 brings to the table. Note 8 is an amazing device and I'm sure the P2XL will be amazing too.
Well, the decision was easy for me. I don't like TouchWiz and I demand prompt, regular updates. Samsung is getting better about their updates, but they are nowhere near Google. My vote goes to the Pixel 2 XL.
Pixel. Any day of the year
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The New 8 is a beast, but I'm into Google devices like this badboy Pixel XL 2!
I had and returned a Note8. The phone is ridiculously fast and I have always liked the Samsung skin. However I greatly disliked the curved screen because I found things near the edges harder to see. Also the phone is crazy fragile with the curved glass front and the glass back. Dropping it once would probably destroy my $1,000+ phone. In the end I sent it back.
I had the s7e, pixel xl, s8+, and now currently have note 8, I've grown to like Samsung skin quite a bit as it does have a lot of useful features, but my short time with the pixel I really enjoyed it also but missed VoLTE was I was with att at the time. But now I'm with tmo and preordered the pixel 2 xl, but only time will tell if I'll end up canceling it as I really do love my note 8 but it's frigging heavy! But I don't think the poled screen will compare to samsungs super amoled, and I would really really miss the micro sad card
I've been using note since it came out and I've loved every second of it. I'm curious if pixel XL 2 that I have ordered can bump it out of the daily slot
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I've got the note 8 now, thinking about getting the pixel 2 XL. Wanted to come on here and get your opinions. I've watched tons of videos, I loved the original pixel, but I also love my note. I miss vanilla Android though, so I'm thinking about switching back too the Google phone.
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For me the pixel wins over the note 8 in pretty much every category except for the storage, not offering a 256gb version in 2017 is ridiculous..get with the times google.
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I pre ordered my N8 and I like it as a daily driver. We just got root for it.
That said, my trading in my Pixel XL for a Pixel XL 2.
Not sure what everyone's fascination is with manufacturer's bloatware and in contrast labeling the purest android phones to ever be made as vanilla.
The whole idea behind android is that you can do more with it, google simply (finally) made an android phone how it was meant to be made. Hardware and software that work flawlessly together but yet offer so much more that iOS does.
People still want phones that the true android experience such as , quickness, flawlessness gets mutilated by so many manufacturer's getting their greedy little hands on them and pretty much ruin what android is supposed to be. And don't get me started on the carriers crapware.
I have had a note 2, note 3, s6, s7 edge, HTC evo, mottoX.........all of which get glitchy and turn to crap slowly after each new android/manufacturer/carrier update. BUT NO MORE I TELL YOU!
Go buy a Pixel 2 XL and see how flawless everything works for you, very similar to iPhones. With the major difference is still being able to do soooo much more than iPhones.
There is no comparison between google phones and other android using phones and iPhone anymore. Hell google won hands down lol.
Mine will arrive on Oct 24th at my door step. I will post about the experience I have with the phone later.
force70 said:
For me the pixel wins over the note 8 in pretty much every category except for the storage, not offering a 256gb version in 2017 is ridiculous..get with the times google.
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Every category except water/dust resistance, display size, features, screen quality and wireless charging. ?
I have an s8+ which I really like, but I cant deal with having to debloat the device, deal with bixby and all the other branded garbage, so I'm willing to take a slightly more ugly phone (imho) and screen in order to get more timely updates. I honestly would stick with the s8+ if they had a non touchwiz edition. The general public does not care, and I think pixel will remain niche because of it. I'll miss samsung pay, which is really nice being able to use old machines and not wondering if they have NFC or not.
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I have an s8+ which I really like, but I cant deal with having to debloat the device, deal with bixby and all the other branded garbage, so I'm willing to take a slightly more ugly phone (imho) and screen in order to get more timely updates. I honestly would stick with the s8+ if they had a non touchwiz edition. The general public does not care, and I think pixel will remain niche because of it. I'll miss samsung pay, which is really nice being able to use old machines and not wondering if they have NFC or not.
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I have an unlocked S8 plus on Verizon. Last year I had the pixel and switched back to Samsung for the water proofing. I missed the pixel. The camera on it was great and even my wife loved it, she is all about social media and photos.
I ordered a Pixel 2 XL this year because I'm used to the larger screen. I feel that if the Pixel 2 XL is the same as the Pixel it will be a good phone. For me greatness will be a better camera from last year and battery life on par with the S8 plus. I guess by the end of the month we will be either singing it's praise or complaining.
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Every category except water/dust resistance, display size, features, screen quality and wireless charging. ?
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Well luckily for me i dont care about the IP rating or wireless charging.
The extra screen real estate granted would be nice for sure but id rather have a slightly smalller screen with front firing speakers.
Screen quality on any flagship these days will be great...sure if you want to not pick the note 8 is better but Im sure the pixel will be just fine to look at.
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Well luckily for me i dont care about the IP rating or wireless charging.
The extra screen real estate granted would be nice for sure but id rather have a slightly smalller screen with front firing speakers.
Screen quality on any flagship these days will be great...sure if you want to not pick the note 8 is better but Im sure the pixel will be just fine to look at.
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The Pixel 2 is water and dust resistant no different then the Note 8. IP67/68 is for all intent purposes the same, the only difference is IP68 can go to 1.5m instead of 1m. Unless you go swimming all the time with your phone I do not see an issue. Wireless charging and an SD card slot would have been nice, but after dealing with all the bloat and problems with other MFGs, I am ready for a pure Android experience and timely updates.
I thought I'd put my thoughts on this as well.
I had the Note 8 for 4 months or so, and have recently switched over to the Pixel Xl 2.
As choices go, it was one of the hardest when it comes to choosing between phones. In the end, the Pixel XL 2 won me over on points, some of which were personal, some of which were facts.
Battery - (It's better on the Pixel XL 2, than the Note 8. It's a fact)
I am a heavy user (Spotify, chatting, a lot of syncing apps + a garmin vivosmartHr+). Unplugged at 7 AM, the Pixel's battery is at about 20% at around 23:30 (11:30 PM). To me, this is spectacular. Leaving work at 6 PM, it's almost always at 50-55%, and that is with me using it for streaming music as I work, chatting with my partner between job tasks, and using it on my lunch break. The Note 8 never gave me this sort of longevity. I almost always had to charge at around...2-3 PM, when the battery was at about 30% or such. The Note 8 never filled me with confidence that it could easily last me a day. Same thing with standby mode. The pixel simply does not leak batter in standby. My note 8 always did, even after factory resets, even after using it on a factory reset with no apps used (as a test)
Camera - (The image processing is better on the Pixel Xl 2, than the Note 8 (opinion). However the Note 8 offers a dual lens setup, which is more convenient for people interested in zoom photography. (Fact))
The Note 8 does have the better camera setup - two cameras are better than one, hardware wise. When it comes to the images that come out of the phones though there is no comparison. The Pixel's image processing is out of this world. My cat was my test subject, and I took pictures of my cat in normal-lit environments with both phones. Samsung's processing made his fur look muddy on zoom. The Pixel had preserved 90% of the texture, as well as realistic colors. Portrait mode is also better with the pixel. Given how I almost never use the telezoom lens, I decided to stay with the Pixel (personal preference), but the fact is that picture quality from the Pixel is better.
Updates/Software version - (The Pixel blows anything else out of the water. Fact)
I care for such things, and once more there is no comparison. the Pixel gets updated far more frequently.
Things that the Note 8 just does better:
- Screen (Note 8 wins, hands down. Fact)
Here is where the note 8 obliterates the pixel. The pixel does suffer from rainbow effect (my unit not to an extreme), it does have a bit of banding tough nowhere near as bad as the V30 or previous generation OLED panels. The black smearing/smudging (whatever you call it, the fact that blacks smudge when you scroll), is there. First I saw it on the Pixel I was like - is this for real? I got used to it by now, but for people who do care about such things - stay away. In comparison, the Note 8 screen is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Bright, colorful, my unit had absolutely ZERO banding. There was a light red tint around the edges (Which I am guessing is due to the curved display), but nowhere near enough to be distracting. The Note 8 wins here, hands down.
- Build quality (Note 8 feels better int he hand - This is my opinion)
Both phones are well built, but the Note 8 is a class of its own. I prefer heavier phones (the Pixel feels a bit too light for me). Holding the note felt like you were holding onto a ton of technology in the most compact of packages. IT was a pleasure to hold. Personally, I don't feel the same for the Pixel but yet again - this comes down to personal preference.
- Tech/Pen (Note 8 packs far more tech. Fact)
I never much used the pen, so I can't comment on that. I won't deny though that the ability to keep notes on the fly is amazing. The Note 8 gives you that out of the box, and is a much better working tool than the Pixel or any phone. Useful in meetings, presentations, etc. Iris scanner was also useful, but I found myself using the fingerprint reader more in the end.
So why did I choose the Pixel XL 2? Well, the bits that the Pixel XL 2 does better were more important to me as a user, that's all. Mainly battery life, software version and camera (remember - I almost never used telezoom lenses in my photography life, but I always loved bokeh photography as well as street photography).
You can't go wrong with either phone. What you can do is tailor the choice on what fits -you- best personally.
I'm currently using an iPad Air 2 looking for an upgrade, my 2 options being the iPad pro and the Samsung tab S4. If anyone has switched from on ipad onto the Tab S4, I want to know whether the change was good or not? I use my ipad for reading books and digitalized notes plus videos from YouTube, Netflix, Prime video. How does Tab S4 fare as a book reader(pdf)?
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I'm currently using an iPad Air 2 looking for an upgrade, my 2 options being the iPad pro and the Samsung tab S4. If anyone has switched from on ipad onto the Tab S4, I want to know whether the change was good or not? I use my ipad for reading books and digitalized notes plus videos from YouTube, Netflix, Prime video. How does Tab S4 fare as a book reader(pdf)?
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I switched from an iPad pro 2017 to a Tab S4 with no regret.
The iPad is a well built device but I wanted something with more possibilities (root) and being consitant with my android phone (Pixel 3)
With Vanced Youtube, no more annying ads
To read pdf I simply use google pdf reader, no problem to open pdf files as big as 450mb so far.
I think this is he best Android tablet you can buy at the moment
Hey,I switched from ipad 6 gen (2018) to tab s4 and I'm dissapointed,I would rather take ipad pro. The screen color saturation is great tho,but it is slower and more laggy. Ipad pro 2,3gen processor has much better performance and I like the interface more on ipad. But I don't use device as a ebook reader.
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Hey,I switched from ipad 6 gen (2018) to tab s4 and I'm dissapointed,I would rather take ipad pro. The screen color saturation is great tho,but it is slower and more laggy. Ipad pro 2,3gen processor has much better performance and I like the interface more on ipad. But I don't use device as a ebook reader.
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I switched from an iPad Air 2. I do miss the iPad Form factor but this is a great tablet. But I have been leaving the Apple ecosystem and the iPad was the last thing I had. I moved to a Pixelbook from a MacBook Pro. I believe this is the best Android tablet on the market today like was mentioned earlier. The 16x10 display is good for movie watching and I have felt no lag like previous Android tablets I have used.
I think this is a pretty good video to take a look at: https://youtu.be/q24uD5UgT-0
I've had 2018 ipad pro, but send it back to Vodafone and got myself tab s4. No regrets.
Ipad is certainly nice looking and powerful, but all that power is restricted by IOS.
I mostly use my tablet for netflix, youtube and such, so 4:3 aspect ration on ipad was annoying. 16:10 on tab s4 is much better, minimal black bars on screen.
Only thing I miss from ipad is face id. It works on day and night unlike gimmicky iris/face unlock of Samsung that struggles in dark or if you wear glasses.
I have both the 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 and the Galaxy Tab S4. In my opinion the 16:9 aspect ratio and the vibrant AMOLED display are much better for media consumption as mentioned in the comments above.
There is no denying that the iPad Pro is very quick with the A10x Bionic SoC and 120Hz display but what can you really do with that power? The Galaxy Tab S4 is not quite as fast but it is certainly no slouch and performs very well in most tasks. It would not have any issues for the purpose that you have described.
In addition, the Tab S4 LTE version (T835) can do phone calls and SMS's as well as WhatsApp and various other mobile apps. (Something that iPad has never supported). It also has support for Bluetooth mouse and keyboard which is very handy if you need to do some basic tasks and don't want to carry a notebook with you.
Finally, the USB-C port on the Tab S4 is more versatile due to the Android OS which is less restrictive than iOS. (For example you can access files on an external drive)
I had the Galaxy Tab S3 before and tend to use my Galaxy tablet more often than the iPad simply because of the flexibility. (For example, I wanted to copy photos and videos onto my tablet to show to some family and friends the other day and just couldn't find an easy way to do that with iPad because once the file were transferred, I wasn't able to find them in the video and image viewer, whereas with the Galaxy Tab, I just connected it to my PC and dropped the files onto the memory card, Done!)
its sad they wont make a flagship tablet. theres no reason for it to be slower than their flagship phones. it would be one thing if it was just a little slower than the ipad in benchmarks, but in some areas its like half the perfomance!
An update on this, I finally got myself the Tab S4 and I'm really happy with it!
•The S pen is awesome to use
•the screen is amazing
•UI and animations are smooth
•Speakers are okayish, could have better bass
•All the apps I need work well with the tab and dont look silly/unoptimised
•Battery backup is nice, although havent timed it yet
•Heaphone Jack!
•Youtube in 1440p!
•Better communiction with my Pixel 2( vs ipad)
•Gaming is smooth(Tested Mortal Kombat X, GTASA, PUBG)
This is quite an underrated tablet TBH, most people see SD835 and 4Gb Ram and trun this down but I think its well worth the price. Samsung has promised pie update in March, lets see. So far so good!
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I am a really fan of iPad
I really want to buy an iPad or just to try it once
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