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Is the Note 8 the best phone ever or are you tempted by competition?

I traded in my Note 5, which I loved for the Note 8 and the Note 8 is clearly the best phone I've ever used. That said, 2017 has finally brought compelling competition worth considering.
What I love about the Note 8:
-Hands down the highest quality screen of any phone
-6 GB RAM makes multitasking great
-The camera takes awesome pictures
-The battery life is incredible
-The theme engine allows dark theme without root
-Call quality is outstanding
-The phone is blazing fast 98% of the time
-Headphone Jack
What I don't love about the Note 8:
-The height and weight of the phone. I have large hands and could always manage the Note 5 one handed, but the height of the Note 8 with added weight make it awkward to use in certain situations. I think if the phone were wider, it might balance the weight distribution. Using a Pixel 2 XL and V30, both are much manageable in the hands.
-The forced white navbar is a nuisance for dark themes. Couldn't Samsung offer grays or faded navbar icons to minimize burn in? I use a 3rd party app to mostly mitigate the problem, but not all apps work properly with it.
-The Bixby button. Again, I've used a 3rd party app to mitigate the problem, but it doesn't seem like a polished solution. Samsung just needs to give us options to remap it.
-The curved screen. Yes, it looks great, but the shadows and light refraction make it annoying at times.
Obviously, the pros of the phone greatly outweigh the cons but every time I see someone using a Pixel 2 XL, I am jealous of the more manageable size, the fast and fluid UI that gets updated faster, and the even bigger battery. I am well aware that both the Pixel 2 XL and V30 have far more problems than the Note 8, namely their screens and bluetooth. Being on Verizon, the OnePlus 5T isn't an option, though I love the thought of a phone that has 8 GB RAM and custom ROM capabilities. Maybe I'm just dreaming of a Note 8 running stock Android, and with a flat 18:9 screen ratio instead of 18.5:9 (which seems to account for the length and narrowness). I'm not actually considering switching phones, but I've been tempted to get another flagship to replace my Nexus 6 as a business line. Thoughts?

I got a note 8 and my wife broke the screen of her s7 edge so of course she wanted fixed or a new phone. Gave her my note 8 and got myself an LG V30 thinking that my note 8 was still too big. After 4 hrs I decided I wanted the note 8 back. The note 8 is a superior phone in all ways except for the audio. I traded the v30 for a new blue note 8 in Bestbuy with 300 dollars off. If I have spare money for another phone I would probably get a pixel 2 xl. I watch a lot of videos and YouTube and the 2 speakers in the front appeal to me. For a daily driver I would get bored right away of the pixel. The note 8 could be customized in so many ways that I haven't even installed Nova launcher yet which has been a most in all my previous phones. If you have a note 8 you have the best Android phone currently and period.

Ha, what competition. Note 8 plays in it's own world. It's a beast.
Also with Oreo update it's only better

I had an ASUS Zenfone AR that I got in September. Nothing but problems - which probably explains why VZW pulled it in less than 6 months. After going through 3 Zenfones, I finally convinced VZW to buy it back and got the Note 8 last week.
Size is very good
Wireless charging FTW
Agreed with above points on speed, screen resolution, etc.
First thing I did was install Nova Plus
I played with the advanced Audio settings - including the hearing test and my LG BT Headset sounds amazing!
Theme engine???????
Disabling Bixby and downloading Google Assistant, finding an obscure setting that I can't find again that selects GA as the default and now it works perfect, but it took me a week to get it to work right.
The one thing I DON'T like about the curved screen is that in 2 weeks, I've had 2 tempered glass screen protectors crack and I have to think this is because of the curve. This second one is just a minor hairline at the bottom but the first one was worse.
The other was being reminded that you can't just connect a Samsung to your computer and transfer files >: Still looking for the best way to do that or break down and pay for Wondershare Mobile Go - which may be worth it since you can browse system files

I've only had it a few days.....had to root and debloat and amend some things (adblocker, viperFX...) It's sure is a beautifully designed thing. It's also like having a Mercedes made out of glass. First thing I did when I ordered it was to order a case and screen protector. No way I would go without it, even walking around a carpeted house. But the key reason I got it was that it was rootable and a high end phone. I was coming from a quirky but great V10 and a Note 3 before that. I will simply not have a phone that I can't root.

I like it a lot incredible battery life using a disable of course most crashes are caused by wonky apps..not blazing fast but not real important. I still prefer it over my iphone 6s plus.. not sure which phone is faster, but for a phone, I choose android.. previous phone was LG10,Note4,galaxys4....way better than those
I'm just looking for a upgraded spen device then I'll be content with the note 8

I'd possibly go to a Pixel 2 XL

I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Ive been using Samsung for years. Started with the s3 then note3 then note5 and now pixel2xl.
So far pixel2xl has been great. The colors were a bit dull before the update giving us saturated colors, which fixed it for me. But other than that performance wise its a dream. My personal experience i have yet to experience studder or lag. Performance is the best ive ever experienced with any previous phone and the battery life is second to none. I average 8hr sot with watching YouTube, games, calls, internet.
The note3 and note5 were bought through Verizon so i haven't been able to flash roms or anything since my s3 and currently enjoying trying different mods and whatnot.
Overall this phone is amazing. Im not sure about the button to answer, as of right how it's swipe but could be a way to change that. If you get a chance to get this phone you won't be disappointed.

I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.

The pixel 2 XL was good enough to replace my note 8. And that's says a LOT! ?
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daviddem said:
I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.
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That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good

Love my Pixel XL 2 better than my S8+

Reuben_skelz92 said:
That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good
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Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.

I've been a Samsung fanboy since my Samsung Galaxy vibrant with T-Mobile. I've had every Samsung Galaxy S phone up to the Galaxy s8+. I don't miss it one bit. I was on the fence for several weeks. I ordered it, cancelled multiple times because of all the bad press. I eventually pulled the trigger and bought the 64gb in black, but I forgot to get the premium coverage. So I returned it and got a 128gb. I don't regret purchasing this phone outright at all. To be honest. I don't think I'll go back. Not until Samsung comes out with something unbelievable. The way that I look at it. Samsung is like a Lamborghini or Ferrari of Android. But they can throw all the best parts, displays, whatever bells and whistles they want. But what good is a Lamborghini or Ferrari with a bad tune? Although the pixel 2 XL may not be the best looking device. It's tuned specifically for this phone and you can tell. Also, I sort of prefer the "natural" colors of this display. If you're going to look for issues, your going to find them in any device. But as for the phone calls. When somebody calls and your display is off. It will pop up a a screen with a circle. You can swipe up to answer the call, or down to ignore it. If your screen is on. A small box will pop up with the contact calling and you can take answer or ignore. I'll try to send some screen shots.

Some reason I couldn't update my previous post. But the attachments are what the call screen looks like from both perspectives.

Ive had my Pixel 2 XL for a week now and I have never had any lag/stutter even when syncing in the background. Battery is superb, 5-6hrs screen on time is easily achieved. Speakers are loud and clean. What can I say more about the camera? Camera is beast!
I used Samsung from S2 to S6 and there is always this delay/lag when opening apps. I guess its just the animation. I find Samsung chargers easy to have problems (slow charge). I am not sure with the S8 now. AMOLED is nice, but hurts my eyes. These are the reasons I went away from AMOLED to IPS LCD (pre-Pixel2XL). I was hesitant at first getting the Pixel 2 XL with all these display issues around it. But personally, the Boosted display settings is just right. I do not like the Saturated settings because it reminds me of Samsung. Too vivid for my liking. The Boosted colors are not washed out, people are just used to/spoiled seeing punchy AMOLED displays, looked unnatural.
As for your concern, a little adjustment when taking the call would be the best move.
So, if youre looking for a phone with the best performance, updates, camera, go get the Pixel 2 XL.
Display is subjective. For the missing headphone jack, im ok with it, they provide a c-3.5mm converter. Thats about it! Hopefully I have contributed something to your decision.

daviddem said:
Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.
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That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.

I've had a LOT of phones over the years, usually switching every 6 months selling off whatever I had to get the absolute latest, but slowed down once I got my OnePlus 3T... It's an AMAZING phone for the price. I was done with Samsung after the 6 series. That said, I went to the Google Pixel 2 XL instead of the 5T because of the dual front facing speakers as well as a few other Pixel only features and I do not regret it at all. The blue-shift isn't too bad once you adjust the colors a bit on the screen (I'm rooted and using EX Kernel / KCal).
My girlfriend has the Samsung S7 Edge and a few friends have the S8s and all want the Pixel 2 XL now after checking it out. It's hard to match the software experience you get on a Pixel device, that's for sure. You can't beat having dual-speakers on a phone, makes for daily use, hearing calls, music, watching videos all the better. I do recommend the 5T for those not worried about camera or dual-speakers as it's got a nicer out-of-the-box looking screen and is much less expensive to purchase, it's no slouch overall. In the end, the Pixel 2 XL was worth every extra penny for my use... make a list of things you need from a phone and see which works best for you as you're all that matters with your phone purchase. Our opinions aren't here to sway you away from what's best for you.

Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?

pbman1953 said:
Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?
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Depends on what you want. For me 100% it is. Adaway, themes, terminal em, titanium backup, root browser.

Besides the themes, can you explain what the others are for

I've used Titanium when I had the note 4. I don't know how a root browser would be different

mlin said:
That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.
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I agree. Saying it's double the price is an exaggerated. And I was surprised. When I was using the oneplus 5t my wife's pixel 2 did seem even more fluid and smooth
All the little things for me have been working better on the pixel 2 as well. I get better mobile signal...and sometimes the oneplus would refuse to turn on my mobile data so I had to restart it
The vibration motor is much nicer on the pixel
Screen is on par if not better in some areas on the pixel
Dual speakers. Amazing camera
Don't get me wrong the oneplus 5t is a great phone for the price but when you switch to the pixel you do feel the price difference in pretty much every area
..even in the small things

At this point I can't imagine going back to a non-Google phone. My first smartphone was a Nexus One and I loved it. I then went to a Galaxy S2 which was a piece of ****. Since then I have yet to see much improvement from Samsung software and the software from other phone makers isn't much better. I'm pretty much on an every other year cycle of whatever Google puts out because even if it isn't perfect it's still better than the alternative.

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Can I add that the ambient display with time and date is soooo fine?
When notifications arrive, they're below the always on time and date.
Plus there's "what's playing now", showing artist and song name for whatever
you're listening to. These capabilities make this phone perfect for me.
Battery life does not seem to take a hit for this luxury.

The active Edge (squeezing it) allows me to turn on the torch with screen off, which is awesome. Like when getting my keys out at night. The phone is spectacular and I've had an s8+. It's my fav. You prob could map the squeeze to answer phone. But I know you could answer with push of a button. Just remap the fourth hidden nav button maybe.

Note 8 to Pixel 2 XL?

Am typing this from note 8.
Has anyone done this switch and repenting?
Am getting someone who is happy to exchange his pixel 2 XL with my note 8!
Is it worth?
I have at least 3 people who are willing to get note 8 in exchange with pixel XL Even though pixel is priced higher here in India!!
Please advice asap
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ayaskant12 said:
Am typing this from note 8.
Has anyone done this switch and repenting?
Am getting someone who is happy to exchange his pixel 2 XL with my note 8!
Is it worth?
I have at least 3 people who are willing to get note 8 in exchange with pixel XL Even though pixel is priced higher here in India!!
Please advice asap
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I may be of assistance. I've had my black Note 8 since release, preordered when announced. Order direct from Samsung. Its a fantastic phone as you already know. I also just got my first pIxel, the Pixel 2 XL 128GB in Just Black 2 days ago. It is also a really nice phone. Sooooo freaking snappy compared to the Note 8 or my S8+. You really have to get the Pixel in your hands and actually use it doing your normal day to day stuff to see the difference.
Pixel 2 XL feels WAY smaller than the Note 8. Like a huge difference feel in the hand. That may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. Naked Note 8 feels way more premium in the hand. Its solid, heavy, glass and metal, delicate feeling almost. Pixel 2 XL feels a lot better naked in the hand, easier to manage and use with one hand, nice and grippy and durable feeling, not as delicate feeling and that can be a good thing.
I would say if your had the Note 8 for a while and you are ready to try something new go for it. The Pixel 2 is looking to be a great phone, love the UI and stock Oreo screams compared to 7.1 on the Note ,and finally the ablility to unlock the bootloader and flash some ROMs. Its been too long.
Theres no doubt in my mind In the long run the Pixel 2 XL is going to be the better phone to have, with 1st day updates and always silky smooth bloatware free OS. However if your honeymoon phase is not over with the Note 8 I think you'll regret it. Thats just my personal opinion having owned many different phones.

Exactly my scenario.
Have been using s8 plus then jumped to note 8
Note 8 with 6gb RAM is really Fluid. S8+ was laggy.
Note 8 always smooth.
But hate waiting for updates now.
Haven't had a pure Google Device ever so afraid if I will miss the software features of Samsung.
Headphone jack. Though I have airpods but still use Sennheiser wired ones at night
My biggest concern is lag of dual SIM.
My bank accounts use different Sims so it will be a pain in ass
Camera has been as good as I want. Have a Fuji XT1 for photography.
So really confused
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Namolas said:
I may be of assistance. I've had my black Note 8 since release, preordered when announced. Order direct from Samsung. Its a fantastic phone as you already know. I also just got my first pIxel, the Pixel 2 XL 128GB in Just Black 2 days ago. It is also a really nice phone. Sooooo freaking snappy compared to the Note 8 or my S8+. You really have to get the Pixel in your hands and actually use it doing your normal day to day stuff to see the difference.
Pixel 2 XL feels WAY smaller than the Note 8. Like a huge difference feel in the hand. That may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. Naked Note 8 feels way more premium in the hand. Its solid, heavy, glass and metal, delicate feeling almost. Pixel 2 XL feels a lot better naked in the hand, easier to manage and use with one hand, nice and grippy and durable feeling, not as delicate feeling and that can be a good thing.
I would say if your had the Note 8 for a while and you are ready to try something new go for it. The Pixel 2 is looking to be a great phone, love the UI and stock Oreo screams compared to 7.1 on the Note ,and finally the ablility to unlock the bootloader and flash some ROMs. Its been too long.
Theres no doubt in my mind In the long run the Pixel 2 XL is going to be the better phone to have, with 1st day updates and always silky smooth bloatware free OS. However if your honeymoon phase is not over with the Note 8 I think you'll regret it. Thats just my personal opinion having owned many different phones.
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Awesome clear reply.
Very thankful to you
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I went from the note 8 to the iPhone 8 plus then back to the note then to the iPhone X then back to the note then I got the pixel 2 then the XL and I never felt like there was something missing. Did not go back to the note 8 so I think it's a valid switch.

ayaskant12 said:
Am typing this from note 8.
Has anyone done this switch and repenting?
Am getting someone who is happy to exchange his pixel 2 XL with my note 8!
Is it worth?
I have at least 3 people who are willing to get note 8 in exchange with pixel XL Even though pixel is priced higher here in India!!
Please advice asap
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Hopefully I can shed some light on this for you. I have both phones and switch between them. Had note since it was released and great device! Was super pumped for pixel and now 7 phones later after a number of problems I still love it!
Pixel Camera is superior to note
Pixel Battery is superior to note
Pixel software is superior to note
Pixel fingerprint reader is perfect placement
Downsides for pixel,
Note screen is superior
Note has more function, s-pen, multitasking/multiwindow etc
Since I have got a good pixel it has been my daily for the simple fact its battery & camera are better and it feels better in hand. I always thought note 8 was a hair too tall and narrow. Pixel is just about perfect. I say give it a go! Right now I would pick pixel over note for the simple things I just described

oneandroidnut said:
Hopefully I can shed some light on this for you. I have both phones and switch between them. Had note since it was released and great device! Was super pumped for pixel and now 7 phones later after a number of problems I still love it!
Pixel Camera is superior to note
Pixel Battery is superior to note
Pixel software is superior to note
Pixel fingerprint reader is perfect placement
Downsides for pixel,
Note screen is superior
Note has more function, s-pen, multitasking/multiwindow etc
Since I have got a good pixel it has been my daily for the simple fact its battery & camera are better and it feels better in hand. I always thought note 8 was a hair too tall and narrow. Pixel is just about perfect. I say give it a go! Right now I would pick pixel over note for the simple things I just described
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Multitasking?
Doesn't Pixel 2xl have it now with Oreo?
Or you like Samsung implementation more?
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I have the Note 8 and my brother has the Pixel 2 XL. I spent 4 days using the 2 XL to try it out, and while the software is cleaner and slighlty smoother, I found it to have more random glitches and reboots than the Note 8. The screen is slightly grainy and the blue shift is annoying. I do like the smaller form factor, slightly better battery life, and the amazing front facing speakers. that said, the Note 8 is a superior device in almost every other way in my opinion. Once the Note 8 is on Oreo, I think it will be near perfect.

ayaskant12 said:
Multitasking?
Doesn't Pixel 2xl have it now with Oreo?
Or you like Samsung implementation more?
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Yes they have it but I like multi window better on note but I think the YouTube pip that works in any screen on pixel is pretty slick too
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Guyinlaca said:
I have the Note 8 and my brother has the Pixel 2 XL. I spent 4 days using the 2 XL to try it out, and while the software is cleaner and slighlty smoother, I found it to have more random glitches and reboots than the Note 8. The screen is slightly grainy and the blue shift is annoying. I do like the smaller form factor, slightly better battery life, and the amazing front facing speakers. that said, the Note 8 is a superior device in almost every other way in my opinion. Once the Note 8 is on Oreo, I think it will be near perfect.
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In my usage the note has never rebooted in 6 months. Yes it has sometimes heated and caused battery drain. After the recent February update it's staying real cool and very smooth.
No lags nothing till date.
But as someone said going into for the pixel will be the better Device due to its software updates
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Guyinlaca said:
I have the Note 8 and my brother has the Pixel 2 XL. I spent 4 days using the 2 XL to try it out, and while the software is cleaner and slighlty smoother, I found it to have more random glitches and reboots than the Note 8. The screen is slightly grainy and the blue shift is annoying. I do like the smaller form factor, slightly better battery life, and the amazing front facing speakers. that said, the Note 8 is a superior device in almost every other way in my opinion. Once the Note 8 is on Oreo, I think it will be near perfect.
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Lol

Guyinlaca said:
I have the Note 8 and my brother has the Pixel 2 XL. I spent 4 days using the 2 XL to try it out, and while the software is cleaner and slighlty smoother, I found it to have more random glitches and reboots than the Note 8. The screen is slightly grainy and the blue shift is annoying. I do like the smaller form factor, slightly better battery life, and the amazing front facing speakers. that said, the Note 8 is a superior device in almost every other way in my opinion. Once the Note 8 is on Oreo, I think it will be near perfect.
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I have to disagree. I feel the Pixel 2 XL has a superior camera to the Note 8 camera. I have both phones and the difference is very noticable. Also the front facing camera on the Pixel 2 XL blows the Note 8 front facing camera out of the water. The one major advantage the Note 8 has over the Pixel is it's gorgeous screen. It's not even a debate that the Note 8 screen is far superior to the Pixel 2 XL screen and to any screen of any other phone. So Note 8 has a better design, form factor and screen and Pixel 2 XL has smoother software, superior battery life and camera.
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ayaskant12 said:
Am typing this from note 8.
Has anyone done this switch and repenting?
Am getting someone who is happy to exchange his pixel 2 XL with my note 8!
Is it worth?
I have at least 3 people who are willing to get note 8 in exchange with pixel XL Even though pixel is priced higher here in India!!
Please advice asap
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I would make the switch if you are seeking high performance and the pure Android experience. Only thing you will really miss is the Note 8 gorgeous screen and vibrant colors. But if you heavily depend on your phone for emails and work then the Pixel 2 XL is the phone to go with.

thdaddy34 said:
I have to disagree. I feel the Pixel 2 XL has a superior camera to the Note 8 camera. I have both phones and the difference is very noticable. Also the front facing camera on the Pixel 2 XL blows the Note 8 front facing camera out of the water. The one major advantage the Note 8 has over the Pixel is it's gorgeous screen. It's not even a debate that the Note 8 screen is far superior to the Pixel 2 XL screen and to any screen of any other phone. So Note 8 has a better design, form factor and screen and Pixel 2 XL has smoother software, superior battery life and camera.
I went in the other direction Pixel 2XL to Note 8
Yes camera is better on P2XL. THE N8 has port of Gcam which greatly improved N8 photos.
N8 is better in design and feel. When in hand you know it. The P2XL feels like one of those demo smartphone, you know the one without any GUTS.
As far as the battery comparison I didn't notice any difference. Infact I think the N8 battery lasts longer.
And to end with after debloating of the N8 crap apps and Oreo I wouldn't even think of going back.
Oh did I forget to mentioned the display is terrible and even worse outdoors!
P.S. before the P2XL owned a N6P. How many Nexus/pixel fails?
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From one reluctant Note fan to more confident ones

I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
Edit: Forgot to mention, I live in Dallas. So I'd have access to Sprints 5G, as rudimentary as it is now. Hence the fence sitting

marky310 said:
I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
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Depends on how much you take selfies as well. The S-pen is good for snapping pictures like a remote that I enjoy. Also Dex to put the phone folders on the desktop is something that's cool. You're right though. Nothing beats the Samsung AMOLED screen. The screen is a little larger it looks like with the 6.8" than the One Plus at 6.67". Looks like the One Plus doesn't have wireless charging if you used that. Only other main differences is the battery on the Note 10+ is larger at 4300mAh vs the One Plus at 4000mAh. 91% screen to body ratio on the Note 10+ vs the 88.5% on the One Plus. I wouldn't worry too much regardless on which phone you get with 5G since 5G is very limited and very finicky right now. Sure, it might be better next year but they said it's a lot harder to maintain a 5G signal since it uses millimeter waves and much harder to penetrate through walls. I don't see 5G really getting steam until probably the end of next year going into 2021.

Water resistance. I own a pool that I use all the time and snap pictures of the family. The One+ it is t an option. Is this a few $100 to me... Yes.

marky310 said:
I'm sitting on a fence I've been scooting on for the past 2 phone upgrades. I currently have a Note 9 and in my head, the natural choice would be a Note 10+. That had been my thinking until Sprint released the OP7 Pro 5G. I know all the specs and all the differences between both on paper. I guess maybe I'm trying to get someone to convince me one way or another. I don't think I've seen a screen better than the ones on Samsung flagships and I'm afraid I'd be trading down if I went OP7. I know about the 90hz screen but since I've never seen it on a phone, I could live without it since I wouldn't know what I'm missing out on. At the same time, my s-pen use has dropped dramatically since I first used on on the Note 4 and honestly, I never use it unless I'm cropping a screenshot, which is rare. Someone just slap the ish out of me and tell me what to choose -_-
Edit: Forgot to mention, I live in Dallas. So I'd have access to Sprints 5G, as rudimentary as it is now. Hence the fence sitting
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10+ 512GB 5G. When using 5G, it's like you are in a different planet. Truest me. And, as everyone else dumps their cell phone because it doesn't support 5G, you'll already be where you want to be.
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Note10+. I had the same battle basically, in my mind. Screen, DeX, s-pen, IP68, wireless charging, WAY better camera (that's what made up my mind), most premium feeling and looking phone around... Samsung just has an amazing thing going right now. This phone is the most incredible piece of technology I've ever owned. I'm coming from a Note9, which I previously thought was basically unbeatable (only upgraded due to the amazing deals). SO glad I chose this phone.

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Note10+. I had the same battle basically, in my mind. Screen, DeX, s-pen, IP68, wireless charging, WAY better camera (that's what made up my mind), most premium feeling and looking phone around... Samsung just has an amazing thing going right now. This phone is the most incredible piece of technology I've ever owned. I'm coming from a Note9, which I previously thought was basically unbeatable (only upgraded due to the amazing deals). SO glad I chose this phone.
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I appreciate all these answers. Its definitely reinforcing a lot of the feelings I have for the Note series. I really do feel like if I choose the 10+, I'd be just as happy as this. But I've always had an itch to try something new once the shine of a new note wears off. Part of me feels that may be due to the almost insignificant jump from the note 8 to 9 and I have a feeling going from 9 to 10+ would be a lot more impressive. I still have time to decide, but I really wanted to put feelers out whole I could. Thanks so much, dudes :laugh:

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I appreciate all these answers. Its definitely reinforcing a lot of the feelings I have for the Note series. I really do feel like if I choose the 10+, I'd be just as happy as this. But I've always had an itch to try something new once the shine of a new note wears off. Part of me feels that may be due to the almost insignificant jump from the note 8 to 9 and I have a feeling going from 9 to 10+ would be a lot more impressive. I still have time to decide, but I really wanted to put feelers out whole I could. Thanks so much, dudes :laugh:
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Thing is, you'll get the opposite answer from OnePlus 7 forums. They'll tell you to get the OP7 Pro because of the 90Hz screen, no hole punch camera, faster updates, faster overall UI (I sincerely doubt that any UI could be faster than this Note10+ on performance mode, Nova launcher, and 0.5 scale animations though... This is INSANE), and Oxygen OS instead of Samsung's bloated UI. That's what they'll say, whether true or not. So I hope you put out feelers on both sides or the battle wasn't fair! Either way, this phone is better for ME. Not sure what's better for you.

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Thing is, you'll get the opposite answer from OnePlus 7 forums. They'll tell you to get the OP7 Pro because of the 90Hz screen, no hole punch camera, faster updates, faster overall UI (I sincerely doubt that any UI could be faster than this Note10+ on performance mode, Nova launcher, and 0.5 scale animations though... This is INSANE), and Oxygen OS instead of Samsung's bloated UI. That's what they'll say, whether true or not. So I hope you put out feelers on both sides or the battle wasn't fair! Either way, this phone is better for ME. Not sure what's better for you.
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That's exactly what I did, lol. Made basically the same thread on the OP7 forum to gauge both sides. I think I'll come down to me trying both out in store and getting a feel for both.

I might be able to offer another opinion for you, but with the same results.
I was a pretty loyal iPhone fan for the longest time since the 3GS. I had a couple of forays into the Android world, with the OnePlus One and LG V20, because like you, I wondered what it was like on the other side. I really liked the OnePlus One, but a bad customer service experience turned me off to them until the 6T came out and I decided to try them again. I had the phone for less than 48 hrs before I brought the phone back for another iPhone.
Fast forward to August 2019 and I fell in love with the Note 10+ instantly. I had always wanted one but the Note 7(?) fiasco turned me away. I went in to Best Buy one day and got some hands on time with it, and I was hooked. It's the first time I've ever pre-ordered a phone, it was very exciting. Now that I've been using the phone for awhile, I can honestly say it's been a great experience. Camera, screen and the Samsung ecosystem are all top notch. And, no buyers' regret!

Anything but the Note 10 or 10+ It's not all rosy as it seems, the camera quality is sub par and you'll be constantly disappointed when you open the camera to take a pic. Call quality is not great because of the weird placement of the speakers. 60Hz display seems retarded compared to 90Hz, huge difference. Now I don't know One plus 7 camera quality but Pixel 4XL will definitely have much better camera. So coming from another Note 10+ owner don't buy this iteration, it's basically crap. I owned a note 8 and 5 prior to this. My next phone will definitely be a Pixel or One Plus.

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Anything but the Note 10 or 10+ It's not all rosy as it seems, the camera quality is sub par and you'll be constantly disappointed when you open the camera to take a pic. Call quality is not great because of the weird placement of the speakers. 60Hz display seems retarded compared to 90Hz, huge difference. Now I don't know One plus 7 camera quality but Pixel 4XL will definitely have much better camera. So coming from another Note 10+ owner don't buy this iteration, it's basically crap. I owned a note 8 and 5 prior to this. My next phone will definitely be a Pixel or One Plus.
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The camera is not sub par. It may not be the best, but it is definitely in the top 3 or 4. Also I have never, ever had a problem with call quality although I think that front facing speakers do sound better, but call quality and sound as it pertains to music or video are two different things. Fact is, it is only loudmess is only slightly less strong compared to the S10 (+), which has front facing speakers. This iteration isn't crap, but is different. If you are yearning for the productivity of yesteryear, wait for next years Note (or maybe the year after that). The S line and the Note line will probably be merged and the Fold will more than likely inherit the S-pen and become the new productivity device. Remember, even though the Pixel and OnePlus are great phones, the screens and the technology everyone is raving about, comes from Samsung. They also made the screens for the 3 and 3a. As for the 60Hz v. 90Hz debate, yes it is a noticable difference, but does that mean the Note experience sucks. No it doesn't suck and the fast charging is comparable to the OP7 Pro and it also offers fast wireless charging, as well as reverse wireles charging. While not necessary, wireless charging is extremely convenient. You can find wireless chargers in coffee shops resteraunts, airports and even in a lot of newer cars. Its great to be able to just throw your phone on the dash while driving across town and still have all of its fuctionality while its charging. In my opinion the Note 10+ is a great phone; overpriced, but a great phone none the less. BTW, I do own both Pixel and One Plus devices, as well as Xiaomi, Vivo and Huawei. So I do have several phones that I can compare against.

Pixel 3 or 3 XL?

I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?

The XL has a nicer Samsung screen. The 3's screen is an LG.

Quasar83 said:
I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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I use the Pixel 3 XL, when I saw the Pixel 3 it looked too small for me, though for some people that can be a good matter. I think both screens are at an equal fighting ground For more context the the larger one uses a Samsung OLED panel, while the smaller one uses and LG OLED panel. The colors appear to maybe pop a little more on smaller one, however the larger one has a more true to life panel. I like the screen screen on my Pixel 3 XL it does look a little warmer than cooler. Hiding the notch is so easy and I think Google did it the best way because the top partially virtual bezel looks equivalent to the bottom. Nearly all apps mostly work with that, very rarely the UI looks weird these days. I get 5 hours screen on time with around 20ish left on a average day. Battery life should improve over time, I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.

Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.

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Thank you for responding. Maybe it's best to buy the XL and just hide the notch.
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Go for the Xl. Better battery and nicer overall. I think it's also had more development as far as ROMs.
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I must warn you the bloody ide drain is ridiculous and to correct I only found by using scripts.
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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable

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Any chance you'd be interested in PMing me those scripts. I'm coming from an LG V20 and it was a pretty mediocre phone but it's idle drain was phenomenal. Lowest I've been able to get my 3XL is 1.7% so far.
I concur on the XL over the regular version. Unless you specifically want a phone that is smaller and like to use it 1 handed then the battery life alone is worth the XL. The screen is better on the XL but it's not night and day difference and is not that noticeable
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Check the forums for Blackened Mod, and to further elaborate I just mean that with these scripts, I drain 2%-3% over night I have not calculated per hour metrics.

Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?

Gregzi said:
Still 3 XL in 2020?
Came across a very good offer for Pixel 3XL and don't know what to do...
I had 2 XL and enjoyed it tremendously. Gave it to my wife, since her Gemini Pro died.
Bought used Note 9, but I couldn't get used to it - somehow....
Why the hell I couldn't synchronise S Notes data, with my computer, why Samsung ditched support for nearby places in dialer, why the hell Galaxy Watch needs so many permissions, why Galaxy watch plugin draining the battery - on Samsung device (!), bad BT range on Note 9, etc...
I ended up with the project to replace all stock apps with Google ones and had double of most of them. I found out that when you integrate most of the Google services, than the battery is not that good anymore. I ended up selling it.
Since I am used to Google services and I use them also on my computer, the Pixel line is the only good choice, I think - but I might be wrong...
I need:
Exceptional Camera, Google Photos backup in original resolution, wide phablet, not so tall, decent speed (I don't play games), good battery (Blackened Mod ???), reasonable amount of storage (128 GB?), front stereo speakers, monthly security updates and: I know that I can expect system updates to Android 11 and 12....
More demanding stuff will be only Office, Acad and that sort of app...
I am not planning to spent 1000 EUR on 4XL, 2XL costed me that much back then....
.... Maybe Oneplus 7T (it has an average camera...don't like it + an issue of not saving videos in appropriate format to use them elsewhere)??
What do you guys think?
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The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.

Go with the XL
Pixel 3 has better in hand feel, built a little sleeker and is a great phone. The battery was the deal-breaker for me. My 3 XL gave me drastically better battery life, so much better that I'm ignoring the hideous notch. They say you get over it but I never really did. I do like the edge to edge display though. The difference in battery makes me strongly recommend the XL.
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I just came across a offer on the Pixel 3 and 3 XL 128GB, but I can't decide between the 3 or 3 XL.
How is the screen quality on the 3 compared to XL? Is it brighter, and is it easy to hide the notch on the XL?
Is the battery life noticeably better on the XL?
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RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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I was even thinking about the 7 Pro, all sorts of things were crossing my mind...
But after reading This, I think that 3XL will better suit my needs.
Oneplus are great devices but as that guy said: Pixel line has "a little magic" over everything else...
The 3XL is on its way here, managed to get it for less than 400 EUR - open box and tested only....Will see if I made a mistake when it arrives...

RagedElimanator said:
The Pixel 3 XL can be defined as fitting those requirements. The screen reminds me of a refined Nexus 6P, more phablet rather than tall. Blackenmod will better the idle time, there are other ways to increase battery like greenify. Original photo quality backups still exists for it and the camera is still exceptional today due to the nature and refined sensor. CAD software and Microsoft Office should run fine, I have used both not too long ago on it. The OnePlus 7T has more ram/storage if you really need it, and the battery is larger. I would say chose one based on what you value more/more updated hardware or a more optimized experience, both devices are great options though I personally would still chose a Pixel.
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Apparently you missed the exceptional camera part lol

OK I got the 3XL 64GB .for 370 EUR (someone tested it and returned it back to the Shop) practically new, hadn't found a single micro scratch
First impressions vey positive, no issues whatsoever, battery health OK (98%).:good:
I think that his phone is still a good buy in the middle of 2020, especially since it is the last Pixel with unlimited photo storage for original photo resolution until 2022
I am easily getting 6 hours of SOT, AOD included, full stock, unrooted.

Bought used 3XL. Great device for the money that it cost at the moment. Even with a notch

I can get the 64gig version brand new from sprint for $300 plus tax to buy it outright.
I'm sure this would be a huge upgrade from my LG G6,
Is it still worth it for this price??????
I considered the 4xl when it was on sale for 600, but I really like the fingerprint sensor over face unlock