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Since the update to Froyo is coming out in a few days, do you expect that we'll see a fully working ROM shortly?
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Since the update to Froyo is coming out in a few days, do you expect that we'll see a fully working ROM shortly?
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Exactly. I hope that this will improve Cyanogen's rom. Other than that all new roms will be based off of the new Froyo release, and as such they will work perfectly.
NicholasRoge said:
Since the update to Froyo is coming out in a few days, do you expect that we'll see a fully working ROM shortly?
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/insert facepalm pic here/
Wrong section. This belongs with 1 of the other 20 threads that were created and merged. This question has been asked and answered at least 10 times already......in the correct section.
bluebeast213 said:
/insert facepalm pic here/
Wrong section. This belongs with 1 of the other 20 threads that were created and merged. This question has been asked and answered at least 10 times already......in the correct section.
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Are all 5 of your posts this condescending or is it just that time of the month for you??? The OP was just trying to get some active dialog going, regarding the upcoming release. Which is more than anyone can say for you. Let the mods do their job, as they are far more qualified than you. And if you're going to insist on playing moderator, try to be less of a D:[email protected] when doing so.
Thanks,
Jeff
Thnx Jeff. I'm sick of the negativity too.
This thread is relevant to development.
jeffhbo said:
Are all 5 of your posts this condescending or is it just that time of the month for you??? The OP was just trying to get some active dialog going, regarding the upcoming release. Which is more than anyone can say for you. Let the mods do their job, as they are far more qualified than you. And if you're going to insist on playing moderator, try to be less of a D:[email protected] when doing so.
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Well Said!
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/insert facepalm pic here/
Wrong section. This belongs with 1 of the other 20 threads that were created and merged. This question has been asked and answered at least 10 times already......in the correct section.
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uhhh well said
can someone say Q&A section
[email protected] said:
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do u really believe that?
FAIL!! Whats deal does everyone need there own thread?
To those who don't like what they think are unnecessary, redundant, or misplaced threads: Every time you reply with your contemptuous or insulting comments, the thread gets bumped up and more people see it. Quit poking it, just let it die on its own if you don't like it.
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FAIL!! Whats deal does everyone need there own thread?
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so it seems... i know ppl are excited about this but i was reading this same thing yesterday and then realized this was a whole nother thread... that facepalm comment was the only one that made sense and to my amazment noone agreed... huge fail
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To those who don't like what they think are unnecessary, redundant, or misplaced threads: Every time you reply with your contemptuous or insulting comments, the thread gets bumped up and more people see it. Quit poking it, just let it die on its own if you don't like it.
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And every time it gets bumped the chances of it getting moved to the correct section increase.
I see people using different kernels with different roms. Why so many kernels and whats their use?
Kernels basically run the back end of your phone. A lot of people make different/ update the kernels because they find a different way to improve battery life and make the phone run smoother and faster. Also, SBC kernels implement trickle charging which makes it so your phone is at or near a 100% when you take it off the charger
This question belongs in the Q&A section, not in the development section.
it posts in the correct section for starters....or does some research as this question has been asked a million times already
Looks like XDA needs to make a 20 post min now.
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
-viperboy- said:
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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Better late than never, I suppose Quoting because I like Big Red chewing gum.
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didn't know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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There are many forum police. You can either abide by their law or be stoned.
bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Your skill in 'White Knight' increases by 0.3.
Level up! You are now 'White Knight' Level 02.
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
Nutzy said:
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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This is my theory... maybe this will scare and annoy people enough that they will actually think twice and possibly search before posting in the wrong section. They should be scared to come in here and start a thread about a non-development topic.
Saturn2K said:
Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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LMAO!!! +609783469078409 on this post, sir!
Comrade P said:
Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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QFT
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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My post actually clarified what this section was for. I think it should be clear enough where NOT to post topics like this. I think it was helpful
deathsled said:
well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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Exactly.
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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Spoken like a true White Knight. +1 to your Divine powers.
jeebuz.....
Way off topic, lock the thread already...
If it were one person, people probably wouldn't jump all over you, but its multiple threads daily, so people are a little less patient.
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Is there any way to dualboot a desire? Like dhd?
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wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
^ Haha
but yeah man this should be in Q&A! getting sick of all these questions in the development forum
Easy solution: only devs should have permission to create new threads in dev section (duh!).
Wrong section but its a great idea that would not work too little memory on the phone inself to run a dual boot. so could a Mod just close this as it is completely pointless.
@howdid, You made my day lol
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That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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you could read forum rules too
This looks like a start of a war between the defenders of n00bs and fighters against n00bs. Mods, how about returning from Tahiti and dealing with this situation?
m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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How 'bout reviewing new threads by mods? (Hypocritical suggestion, I know).
That's a fairly standard option on a lot of forums, in some sections only specific categories of posters can start a new thread ( Mods and recognized developer should cover it here). Everyone else has to submit a new thread for mod approval. If implemented it would stop these "random questions" and d******s who post "hey i'm using this rom but can't be a***d reading the rom thread and gosh this is so important i'm gonna start a new thread
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
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Good idea but don't forget not all people with low post counts post before they think, also i have seen noob type mistakes from senior members with 500+ posts before now.
The better idea is devs only being able to make new threads.
Maybe giving to top 3 devs mod status for entire Desire section. I'm confident they're capable more than enough to keep this place tidy.
with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
Hmmm maybe 2 moderator per section is not enough we need more then 4...that's all...personally I don't have any prob. with noobs but at-least read the section rule....
BTW let see... does how desire is capable to run dual.boot...
I clicked that with expectations.
well I posted in the apps section for beta testers for a multiboot app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325 since it's not rom development but then saw this thread and figured i'd link here if anyone's interested...
howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Wrong
EDIT: Sorry for not reading the second page @Conap beat me to it
N3m3515 said:
with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
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Granted the OP could have searched and found his question has been asked already,
BUT
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
2. The Desire has the same size nand as the Nexus one, we have apha rev with custom MTD partions and Hboots. One would think that if this is possible on the Nexus one, it should be on the Desire.
3. As someone else said, post count and join date do not necessarily reflect one's amount of knowledge. Some people lack common sense about where to post, others are lazy. No matter what the forum rules are that will never change.
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1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
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Yep it was, although it could be better said to just be moved in the Q&A Forums, instead of feeding this post with 15+ responds about the same fact.
Anyway I think this thread should either be continued on the topic or closed.
Sorry for off-topic.
to answer the op question, at the moment no, but uncorrupted has been working on dual booting but hasnt had much joy, there is a thread about it, he'll be starting work again soon
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Nice. Now I see suggested threads popping all over the place as I type this. I find it very indicative.
Oxygen tips&tricks is inactive as most users go rather to their forums. I mean, c'mon, 14 runnymede threads on the first two pages of Q&A (and counting) looks ridiculous and makes all of us look silly. Release Oxygen and place this instead when apparently dedicated rom threads are not enough for some people.
What do reputable members think about this?
Define reputable members.
Also, I count 4 threads on the front page.
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Define reputable members.
Also, I count 4 threads on the front page.
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You defined yourself. Read again.
Right.
So, people post a question on the development forum, and the usual suspects jump at them for doing that (understandably so). THEN, they post the same question on the Q&A forum, and you jump at them again?
Get a life and be more polite in the future. No one is forcing you to answer to their threads.
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Right.
So, people post a question on the development forum, and the usual suspects jump at them for doing that (understandably so). THEN, they post the same question on the Q&A forum, and you jump at them again?
Get a life and be more polite in the future. No one is forcing you to answer to their threads.
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What level of politeness you expect? You come barging in, you do what is called selective reading and completely irrelevant to the topic at hand as you have done it before, and now I turn impolite?
So, let me make a summary of what you wrote - someone opens a thread in development section where the only thing someone developed is brain hemorrhaging, they get bashed (understandably so), mods intervene and move it to where it belongs (I concur), while at the same time that very rom has it's own dedicated thread for the inquiries like that?
Actually I won't jump on them but I agree. They're all about the same thing so the ops should be tagging on to the end of the thread. That's just forum etiquette really
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I can't understand what you are trying to say. First of all, I've never said anything irrelavant to any topic. Or ever started one (like this). And secondly I've never started a thread in the developement section in general.
island3r said:
I can't understand what you are trying to say. First of all, I've never said anything irrelavant to any topic. Or ever started one (like this). And secondly I've never started a thread in the developement section in general.
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C'mon, stop trolling. I know there is no possibility someones abstract thinking can't comprehend what I tried to say, but in case there are people like that, I'll edit that out of courtesy so that anyone could understand it.
erklat said:
C'mon, stop trolling. I know there is no possibility someones abstract thinking can't comprehend what I tried to say, but in case there are people like that, I'll edit that out of courtesy so that anyone could understand it.
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I still don't get what you're saying. Nevertheless you are right, this forum is not for discussing personal disputes, so I'll leave the rest of the discussion for the more... reputable members.
You know, it's because users are afraid that if they push "Search" button their PC will explode. Either that or they are just simply stupid.
Terepin said:
if they push "Search" button their PC will explode.
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Shhhh! Who told you about that script?
Terepin said:
You know, it's because users are afraid that if they push "Search" button their PC will explode. Either that or they are just simply stupid.
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Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
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mistaliu said:
Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
Sent from my HTC Desire LeeDrOiD Ed.
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They have important matters to attend to. We without lives have time to roam endless threads. They don't.
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when apparently dedicated rom threads are not enough for some people.
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not sure whether I understand your point. anyway, for me, I was not allowed to post in the dedicated threat. xda server told me that I first need 10 posts to be allowed posting in developer, which btw is for developers only, and instead I should post in Q&A
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Reading hurts brain too...can only read back 1 page
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Some of them can't do even that.
erklat said:
They have important matters to attend to. We without lives have time to roam endless threads. They don't.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using XDA App.
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Which is highly hypocritical from them, because if they do have important matters to attend to they wouldn't bother posting here in the first place.
A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
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...did you even read my post...?
riahc3 said:
...did you even read my post...?
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I most certainly did.
...did you even click on the link and find out what thread I asked you to post in...?
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@riahc3, instead of making new threads, please consider posting your recommendations in this thread dedicated to that purpose.
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ИΘΘK¡€ said:
I most certainly did.
...did you even click on the link and find out what thread I asked you to post in...?
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You are redirecting me to a similar thread with the same problem; It is a bit more understandable as the staff should read every single suggestion and respond to them.
The device thread is stupid because it is by members for members. There is no obligation.
Basically you are answering my request for a solution to a thread with a problem by redirecting me to a thread with the same problem. Thats why I doubt you read my post.
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You are redirecting me to a similar thread with the same problem; It is a bit more understandable as the staff should read every single suggestion and respond to them.
The device thread is stupid because it is by members for members. There is no obligation.
Basically you are answering my request for a solution to a thread with a problem by redirecting me to a thread with the same problem. Thats why I doubt you read my post.
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Ah, I see your point. Touché, my good sir.
I just recommended you posting this request in that thread because as moderators and admins frequent that thread more than the About XDA forum as a whole, your opinion might get seen and considered more quickly than in this individual thread.
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A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
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Firstly, there are 3 threads dedicated towards this subject. You're well aware of this because you've been told this, and have posted in one. And now you're complaining again, because your question, which you have already asked wasn't immediately after you posted it after the majority of people qualified to (re)answer your question are in bed, asleep.
Secondly, your "solution" of dedicating a forum for individual threads is hardly a solution. Your complaint is that posts get buried and never get answered. For one thing, this is not true. For another thing, if this is your complaint, what the heck makes you think that dozens of individual threads won't get buried? With the combined amount of posts in these threads, every day would create a new page or 2 in a subforum if they were made as individual threads. It's the same "problem", only multiplied and organized into a subforum rather than a few dedicated threads. Furthermore, it's very easy for me to read through new posts in a thread, but far more tedious to open multiple threads to read and perhaps reply individually, whereas in a single thread I can multi-quote and make several replies easily and in a tidy manner.
I think it's fine just the way it is. If anything, 3 is too many threads, since 2 of them are quite redundant, but since they're both in Q&A sections, (one General, one Android), I can see the reasoning for having one in each, if only to keep down on the clutter you insist you're entitled to making.
Wanna know what device to get? It is simple. Do your research and pic a device that fits what you need it to do. Flashing roms are not important, what devices works for others is not important. It is all up to you and what you plan on to do with the device. If you main plan is to flash roms with it then you might want to rethink the need for it.
There is no need for another forum.
If your not willing to read threw threads then you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you have an issue with said device and dont search and read threw to find the answer and then ask it anyway you are asking to be flamed to no end.
Remember this is a developers site.
zelendel said:
Wanna know what device to get? It is simple. Do your research and pic a device that fits what you need it to do. Flashing roms are not important, what devices works for others is not important. It is all up to you and what you plan on to do with the device. If you main plan is to flash roms with it then you might want to rethink the need for it.
There is no need for another forum.
If your not willing to read threw threads then you shouldn't be here in the first place. If you have an issue with said device and dont search and read threw to find the answer and then ask it anyway you are asking to be flamed to no end.
Remember this is a developers site.
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Well said.
riahc3 said:
A thread dedicated to this has its problems.
First off, its huge. You cant look at someone that maybe has the same requirements as you and see what other people said about it. A typical example is a lot of people that want to switch to a Nexus phone. It would be easier to search for that in that section, see what people say and then not have to make the same thing again
Second, way too many posts. Similar to one but if the thread is on page 1000 and some posts a thread saying "What phone do I get?" later another 10 people post the same thing and we are on page 1001. Everything on page 1000 gets lost because noone looks thru them. You would have to double post.
A dedicated section where people can post threads on what device they are look for wouldnt clutter the forums and would let everyone express what they are looking for.
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Second (clutter) thread I have addressed of yours...
Why not post your thoughts here to the Admins & Moderators, vice making a new thread (clutter)....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1976627
And or read Zel's Post #8 of this thread.