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Would this help any dev or no?

So i have an evo that i am sending back because i got my replacement.. So i dont care if it gets unrooted in the process...
According to this: http://support.sprint.com/support/a...e-wh164052-20100527-115429?&INTNAV=SU:DP:HDIA
I should be able to manually update my phone to froyo....
If someone could walk me through how to get the image and files off the phone and post i would be more than happy too (if that would help anyone.. i just dont know)
Let me know!

yeah it would help but i dont think its available yet been trying to download all day no luck...

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drumdude said:
Wrong Forum.
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How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.

Ha!
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.

Sprockethead said:
How is this the wrong forum? He's asking the developers if his downloading Froyo, extracting it, and sending it to them would be a help to their development of Froyo-based ROMs.
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[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
Wrong Forum.

I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Hay man your posting in the wrong section of the forum. Enjoy!!
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk Pro.

Wouldn't the update download into /cache? Or Is this still the wrong forum?
Sent from your mom's house.

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Dude, Wrong forum.. The Rants and Raves forum is down the block....

zbend said:
I swear to God 80% of all posts on XDA are people replying to other people, telling them they are posting on the wrong forum (without even telling them where they 'should' be posting) Very Hilarious but also far far more annoying then the supposed misplaced post itself. p.s. please reply to this telling me I'm posting in the wrong forum, it will make my day.
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Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!

Thank you!

Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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thenewguy821 said:
I wouldn't be too surprised. Drumdude has 3 posts, all of which are just to talk down to other members.
Momma must have weened him off the t!t a little too soon and he's having withdrawals.
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Are you a wizard? Or just another kid who has also started a thread in the wrong forum?

echoside said:
Haha. I bet if op posts this is q&a they will say its the wrong forum. I have seen that a couple times. Man how this place has changed in the past couple years
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Hey, it's ok. Half of the members finally started going through puberty, and their formerly carefree tween personalities have been beset by emotional volatility and hormonal fluctuations. Most of them are probably confused, wondering what those hairs are for.
Sent from the wrong forum.

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5 posts of "Wrong Forum". You're just as cancerous as the threads that you post in.
to OP, Thank you for willing and waiting with the rest of us and yes if you do get your hands on that OTA it will help tremendously. Do post here if you get it.

Really?
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.

drumdude said:
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SEE BELOW
Unknownforce said:
[FLAMEOFF]In basic terms, This is a Question. There is a forum for Questions/Answers. This forum is mainly for Releases of development and testing of ROM's, Modifications, etc. You guys don't think devs check the Q&A, but they do...[/FLAMEOFF]
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You 2.. see below..
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Welcome to XDA. Please notice the nice place set up for questions like this, conveniently labeled "Q/A." See all the question marks there? It's for questions, just like this! The devs read that forum too! Now take a look around this subforum. Notice threads with content, downloads, changelogs - in essence, development.
I hope this was helpful. Have a great day!
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idiot
First of all.. anyone that has less than 20 posts telling me that this is the wrong forum is.. well.. DUMB... (even if you have more than that, this still applies)
ITS A SPECIFIC DEVELOPER RELATED QUESTION AND I WAS TRYING TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY IF POSSIBLE..
ITS ASSWIPES LIKE YOU THAT MAKE FORUMS BULL****... IF YOU LIFE SUCKS SO BAD THAT ALL YOU CAN DO IS GO AROUND TO FORUMS AND TALK CRAP.. SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE HEAD AND BE DONE WITH IT....
I have been DL'ing roms and posting here for a while and i wanted to try and give back if i could even though i am not a dev!

Adanedhels said:
Ok first drumdude are you a moderator? Have you done any development ever? Do you post anything other then nasty remarks? If I were a moderator I would ban hammer you not the person offering to help.
Seriously people just because you have anonymity behind your user name doesn't give you the right to be rude. Stop jumping on a post and yelling at the poster, if the moderators have a problem they will move the post you are not the police and all you are doing in potentially scaring off help!!! Which correct me if I'm wrong a development forum is DEPENDENT on.
I for one have been taken aback and offended by some of the blatant rudeness on this forum.
We never know who is new or who is posting something. What if a HTC dev was posting a question with the intent to leak info to us and you blasted him like this? Do you think he would want to help after that? Or what if someone who was posting a question also happened to be at HTC legal and got pissed enough to force all our nice developers to stop using anything HTC with a cease order (which they can legally do whenever they want) all because of some rude poster.
Please people be responsible and think before you speak the world and this forum will be better for it.
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You might want to step back and take a deep breath or two (jeez probably three.)
You're not a mod either, so how about you calm down and go outside or something?

Check to see if the PRI updates from 1.34_003 to another one.

[Q] Why do you guys keep posting [Q]'s in development?

seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting? Did you not understand them? IF YOU AREN'T POSTING UP DEVELOPMENT MATERIAL (e.g a new ROM, a new kernel, a system hack, a new radio) STOP STARTING THREADS IN THERE.
the q and a forum is for questions.
and, if you are having an issue with a particular kernel, rom, radio, troll the thread concerning that particular item. chances are that someone else has had the problem, and that another person solved it. if it hasn't been solved, post in that thread, with specifics to your issue.
you do not need to start a thread. in fact, when you start threads that have to be moved, your leftovers have to be cleaned up behind you.
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and no, i don't need some person (db, i'm looking at you) to come in here and say "blah blah blah you're just a wanna be mod", or some other non-helpful comment. the fact of the matter is that there is a place for everything. please keep it in its place. you're more likely to find your answer by searching first, and posting in the correct place. you will also find that you are not starting a load of silly flaming as people bicker and fight about stupid crap.

Wanna be mod.
Thanks.
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I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
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If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
I personally think the PRI question should be a sticky over there until resolved...but that would be too easy I guess?

nvm.............

r.mauldin said:
I agree with you. But why do you always have to be that guy who complains about eveyones posts. It gets kinda old also.
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why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.

timothydonohue said:
why am i complaining? because why should i have to sift through 8 tons of crap because someone else can't read? the development forum is busy enough. if 15 threads weren't moved every day, you'd have to sift through page after page after page of complete nonsense just to find the actual things that belong in there.
sorry. i don't have the time to baby step someone through a complex process when they don't bother to read the simple things.
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I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".

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I did say I agree with you. But you make yourself "that guy".
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But "that guy" isn't alone. Lately I've noticed 8+ of us that are "those guys" and growing.
A simple analogy would be comparing parking in the handicapped space at the mall, not worth the risk so you don't... on XDA there is no risk so people park their Q's in the handicapped space (dev) all day long. Neither scenario is right, nor should be tolerated.

timothydonohue said:
seriously, folks....
Did you not read any of the forum guidelines before you started posting?...yada yada yada and blah blah blah
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I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?

cardiox said:
If more developers came in here instead of developer wanna b's answering in such a way as to post boost, then we wouldn't have to...
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I think a developer wouldn't want to answer the question of some fool who can't even post in the right forum.

Crotchety said:
I could honestly be missing the point here, but by posting your complaint in the Q&A aren't you just griping to those of us who are already in the correct place for general EVO questions instead of in the dev forum where the offenders actually are?
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yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.

I'm with you OP, its irritating and actually disrespectful to the community
BTW, this should have been posted in dev.. lol

timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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I hear you and I just joined XDA not too long ago at all. A few things I learned right away:
- USE THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON
- READ READ READ READ READ READ
- If you can't find an answer using the search button, open a new tab and Google it
- Still can't find an answer? You'd better search through the other threads before starting a new thread
- These threads wouldn't be so long if people would simply read the OP
- Kittehz r dyin cuz u dont no how 2 reed
Seriously though, I hate to see a great community become angered over lazy people. It ruins it for those of us who do heed the rules.

I am with the OP and to the persons aying if more devs came and answered there questions in QA they wouldnt ask in dev .... most of the people answering questions in DEv arent the DEVS. the DEVS are busy developing things and shouldnt be expected to waste there time answering the same 3 questions everyday all day.
Many people on the forum DO come to the Q&A and try to provide insight. Some are less helpful then others but in general you will get flamed less, you will get the answer and you wont cause issues with the "neatness" of the forums.

timothydonohue said:
yes, but what point would i be making by posting it in there? and, as mauldin pointed out, i answer enough of those threads.
however, unless i'm grumpy, i try to both answer their question AND point out that it should be posted in the appropriate place.
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Fair enough. As a seasoned XDA vet of a whopping 3 posts (including this one), I would defer to you on this issue, but I just think it looks like you're complaining to the wrong people. We're already in the Q&A which means we're already doing what you devs have been trying to get the offending posters (who are over in the dev forum) to do. They're not gonna see your OP in here because they're too busy bypassing the Q&A and heading over to Dev to annoy you guys with generic questions again.

Basically what has happened is the Evo and other somewhat likfe phones have blown up. Word spread like wildfire that XDA was the place to get any and all help with your phones. (Which don't get me wrong 99% of the people here are more then willing to help.) This brought a lot of new people on the scene and wanting information and help. Unfortunately some of those people don't want to play by the rules of the road.
Maybe it's just me but it seems like over the past couple months this is what's happened. I seem to remember another thread this was brought up and a suggestion was made about being a member for a certain period of time before being able to create a new thread. I'm not saying this needs to happen because I don't think that would solve anything actually.
Ok...my rant's over now too.
*Just my 2 cents*

Need Moderators in Vibrant section..

I have noticed that there is a large amount of double posting & people simply not following the rules in this section. There is like one moderator for that section & he is a developer, and of course spending his time on that, all of the rest are retired.. We need more mods there (At least two of them)
So please add a some mods there, I would even be more then happy helping out. It is just needed..

Master™ said:
I have noticed that there is a large amount of double posting & people simply not following the rules in this section. There is like one moderator for that section & he is a developer, and of course spending his time on that, all of the rest are retired.. We need more mods there (At least two of them)
So please add a some mods there, I would even be more then happy helping out. It is just needed..
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completely agree. having to fish through 20 pages of arguing and name calling is becoming slightly obtrusive. I would also be willing to help out

Thanks for pointing this out, can you please help us by reporting these posts by clicking on the "!" this will alert other moderators to take action.
Thanks again,
Mr. Clown

Flagged this one for discussion with the mods.

jumaaneface said:
completely agree. having to fish through 20 pages of arguing and name calling is becoming slightly....
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I'm SO glad someone is doing something about this! Thank you.
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willcwells said:
I'm SO glad someone is doing something about this! Thank you.
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Pulser has brought the issue to our attention, and I can assure that within a week or so there will be significant improvement.
@All: As the clown said, please use the Report Post option for threads that need to be dealt with. All Senior and Forum mods are notified when reports come in, so someone will act swiftly.

Just so everybody knows...I started moderating this forum a week ago...and I am doing my best to keep up with things...and I would say I am doing a pretty good job so far.
I agree with the OP things are bad right now but we are working to change that.
If you want to help send me a PM with anything you see that I can help with.

krook6023 said:
Just so everybody knows...I started moderating this forum a week ago...and I am doing my best to keep up with things...and I would say I am doing a pretty good job so far.
I agree with the OP things are bad right now but we are working to change that.
If you want to help send me a PM with anything you see that I can help with.
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Yeah I'm just saying there are a ton of people in that one section.. And your basically the only one because the other is a dev.. I just don't think 1 mod can handle all that, because like you said.. It is pretty bad

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Yeah I'm just saying there are a ton of people in that one section.. And your basically the only one because the other is a dev.. I just don't think 1 mod can handle all that, because like you said.. It is pretty bad
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I will be going into the vibrant forum now as well, to help out where possible in the clean-up operation

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I will be going into the vibrant forum now as well, to help out where possible in the clean-up operation
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Okay, Thanks!

I tried to PM mikechannon about the issue that is still occurring on the Vibrant forums.
Instead of it getting better, it seems to be getting worse..
"There is constant flaming/off topic going on there. I have posted about this issue before, and the MOD's just said to report those post.
Even though I have been reporting those post that contain cursing/advertising/off topic/spam/etc they some how don't seem to get moderated.
In some threads there have been several "Clean Up's" yet there still seems to be flaming & off topic.. Once again :/
I know there is one moderator that is for that section specifically (Krook6023) and there is sometimes another moderator that comes around, I can't think of his name at the moment.."
Is there any more we can do?

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I tried to PM mikechannon about the issue that is still occurring on the Vibrant forums.
Instead of it getting better, it seems to be getting worse..
"There is constant flaming/off topic going on there. I have posted about this issue before, and the MOD's just said to report those post.
Even though I have been reporting those post that contain cursing/advertising/off topic/spam/etc they some how don't seem to get moderated.
In some threads there have been several "Clean Up's" yet there still seems to be flaming & off topic.. Once again :/
I know there is one moderator that is for that section specifically (Krook6023) and there is sometimes another moderator that comes around, I can't think of his name at the moment.."
Is there any more we can do?
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The latest Android sections are a mess, plain and simple. The sheer number of users with Galaxy devices in general is a lot. We have many mods scattered throughout the site who are not online 24/7, so if we don't catch something, simply report it and be patient. We cannot stop the flaming from happening, but we do our best.
We see all Reported Posts, no exceptions but we evaluate the severity and act based on it.

egzthunder1 said:
The latest Android sections are a mess, plain and simple. The sheer number of users with Galaxy devices in general is a lot. We have many mods scattered throughout the site who are not online 24/7, so if we don't catch something, simply report it and be patient. We cannot stop the flaming from happening, but we do our best.
We see all Reported Posts, no exceptions but we evaluate the severity and act based on it.
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My question is why not to open moderator applications for those sections?
I see stuff in there that I reported last week, and is still there.

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My question is why not to open moderator applications for those sections?
I see stuff in there that I reported last week, and is still there.
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Can you point me to it? I don't see anything reported by you in the Reported Posts. As for the applications, they are closed at the moment and we do have mod(s) in that forum: 1 full time (krook as you mentioned earlier), as well as me, and a couple of others who swing by every so often.

Well one problem is we can't really report threads within the app
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I have another tab open, I am going through all the things I reported..
Right now I have 11
But the search function closed, so I will wait for 10 minutes

I have offered to Mike to be CoMod of the fora. Hopefully I will be able to clear up issues you guys have been having in coordination with Krook

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Can you point me to it? I don't see anything reported by you in the Reported Posts. As for the applications, they are closed at the moment and we do have mod(s) in that forum: 1 full time (krook as you mentioned earlier), as well as me, and a couple of others who swing by every so often.
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Flaming/Language:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8818168&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8609894&postcount=11
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8443643&postcount=24
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8445059&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8916560&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8558127&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8007080&postcount=8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8860408&postcount=29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8602177&postcount=17
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8605661&postcount=29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8753377&postcount=30
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8008585&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8008972&postcount=21
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8009632&postcount=24
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8293273&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8293557&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8308154&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8318862&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7876315&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8962431&postcount=768
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8887289&postcount=110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8851999&postcount=44
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8577161&postcount=13
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8248888&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8961973&postcount=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8948492&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8902506&postcount=7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8830399&postcount=23
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8962535&postcount=769
Off Topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8916762&postcount=16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8781120&postcount=9
That is just a scratch off the top.
And not to offend you.. But even if there are MODs in that forum, we still need more. If there is still constant flaming/off topic, then isn't that a hint to get more mods?

Why not make master vibrant mod?
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Alex530 said:
Why not make master vibrant mod?
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I wouldn't mind helping out..

what does a kernel actually do for your phone?

I see people using different kernels with different roms. Why so many kernels and whats their use?

Kernels basically run the back end of your phone. A lot of people make different/ update the kernels because they find a different way to improve battery life and make the phone run smoother and faster. Also, SBC kernels implement trickle charging which makes it so your phone is at or near a 100% when you take it off the charger

This question belongs in the Q&A section, not in the development section.

it posts in the correct section for starters....or does some research as this question has been asked a million times already

Looks like XDA needs to make a 20 post min now.

This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.

-viperboy- said:
This is going to by my new trademark...
ROM Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Oh, and please post your new kernel that you must be developing. I must have missed that somewhere in the OP.
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Better late than never, I suppose Quoting because I like Big Red chewing gum.

Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didn't know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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There are many forum police. You can either abide by their law or be stoned.

bostonsbrash2 said:
Wow. Thanks for the awesome feedback. You guys must be King at your lunch tables huh? Sorry for cramping your style. Though, I didnt know smug and condescending had a style. I asked a simple question and a bumch of hack elitist get butthurt over a thread in the wrong topic section. Wow.
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Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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Your skill in 'White Knight' increases by 0.3.
Level up! You are now 'White Knight' Level 02.

One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.

Nutzy said:
One more reason people dont come to XDA anymore..... good job the the seasoned "grumps" who at one point asked questions as well. You guys have forgotten what the forums are all about and why your here.... FAIL.
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Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.

agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
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well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol

theoottesen said:
This made me LMAO!!! All that had to be said was, "Hey this is the wrong section, do a search in the Q&A forum and if you can't find it let people know you aren't having any luck with searching and someone should be able to point you in the right direction." Instead you get "**** OFF FNG!!!!" Good reason to stay apart of XDA huh. But of course everyone is a hard ass on the internet, duh.
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This is my theory... maybe this will scare and annoy people enough that they will actually think twice and possibly search before posting in the wrong section. They should be scared to come in here and start a thread about a non-development topic.
Saturn2K said:
Wow, you got us. To stick with your lunch table metaphor, imagine this subforum as a lunch table in a cafeteria. You and your friends are enjoying a nice conversation when out of nowhere 500 people run to your table and start vomiting all over it.
This subforum is set up so that they don't need to sticky legitimate development threads. Instead, they created other subforums for questions like these.
Yeah, it looks kind of bad when ten people run in going "wrong forum! wrong forum!," but they're trying to help in whatever way they can since this forum doesn't have a downvoting system.
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LMAO!!! +609783469078409 on this post, sir!
Comrade P said:
Rule number 1
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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QFT
klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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My post actually clarified what this section was for. I think it should be clear enough where NOT to post topics like this. I think it was helpful
deathsled said:
well if he had to ask what a kernel is and what it does then at least we know if he doesn't come back the Development section won't be losing a great asset lol
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Exactly.

klubhead said:
agreed.. way to contribute to xda.. bash new users who will probably never come back, job well done.
there's ALWAYS new thread's by someone that doesnt search, whether new to forums in general or just didnt take the time to search.. steer them in the right direction rather than away from the forums...
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Spoken like a true White Knight. +1 to your Divine powers.

jeebuz.....
Way off topic, lock the thread already...

If it were one person, people probably wouldn't jump all over you, but its multiple threads daily, so people are a little less patient.
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Dualboot

Is there any way to dualboot a desire? Like dhd?
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wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot

^ Haha
but yeah man this should be in Q&A! getting sick of all these questions in the development forum

Easy solution: only devs should have permission to create new threads in dev section (duh!).

Wrong section but its a great idea that would not work too little memory on the phone inself to run a dual boot. so could a Mod just close this as it is completely pointless.

@howdid, You made my day lol

m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here

howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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you could read forum rules too

This looks like a start of a war between the defenders of n00bs and fighters against n00bs. Mods, how about returning from Tahiti and dealing with this situation?
m1l4droid said:
That's a good idea, but it also has a problem, a new developer without a recognized developer badge, can't open a thread and share his work.
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How 'bout reviewing new threads by mods? (Hypocritical suggestion, I know).

That's a fairly standard option on a lot of forums, in some sections only specific categories of posters can start a new thread ( Mods and recognized developer should cover it here). Everyone else has to submit a new thread for mod approval. If implemented it would stop these "random questions" and d******s who post "hey i'm using this rom but can't be a***d reading the rom thread and gosh this is so important i'm gonna start a new thread

nickislauw said:
oeps accidently thanked you ghehe, my opinion is someone below 300+ or 500+ posts cant open a new thread here
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Good idea but don't forget not all people with low post counts post before they think, also i have seen noob type mistakes from senior members with 500+ posts before now.
The better idea is devs only being able to make new threads.

Maybe giving to top 3 devs mod status for entire Desire section. I'm confident they're capable more than enough to keep this place tidy.

with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534

Hmmm maybe 2 moderator per section is not enough we need more then 4...that's all...personally I don't have any prob. with noobs but at-least read the section rule....
BTW let see... does how desire is capable to run dual.boot...

I clicked that with expectations.

well I posted in the apps section for beta testers for a multiboot app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325 since it's not rom development but then saw this thread and figured i'd link here if anyone's interested...

howdid said:
wrong section dumbass and no there is no dualboot
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Wrong
EDIT: Sorry for not reading the second page @Conap beat me to it

N3m3515 said:
with some basic search he could find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15442534
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Granted the OP could have searched and found his question has been asked already,
BUT
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
2. The Desire has the same size nand as the Nexus one, we have apha rev with custom MTD partions and Hboots. One would think that if this is possible on the Nexus one, it should be on the Desire.
3. As someone else said, post count and join date do not necessarily reflect one's amount of knowledge. Some people lack common sense about where to post, others are lazy. No matter what the forum rules are that will never change.
Respectfully,

jmitr said:
1. Was this originally posted wrongly in the Dev section then moved???? If not, why in the h** are people freaking out about ANYONE asking a question in the Q&A (QUESTION and answer) forum?????????????????????
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Yep it was, although it could be better said to just be moved in the Q&A Forums, instead of feeding this post with 15+ responds about the same fact.
Anyway I think this thread should either be continued on the topic or closed.
Sorry for off-topic.

to answer the op question, at the moment no, but uncorrupted has been working on dual booting but hasnt had much joy, there is a thread about it, he'll be starting work again soon
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