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[Q] Where are the moderators?

It seems like the forums have gone to complete hell lately with flames junk topics like "lol, socks" and "omfg 2.2 root!!???".
Is xda-devs short of moderators to lock and delete crap topics and flames? I thought the forum rules spoke against this.

perdurabo2 said:
It seems like the forums have gone to complete hell lately with flames junk topics like "lol, socks" and "omfg 2.2 root!!???".
Is xda-devs short of moderators to lock and delete crap topics and flames? I thought the forum rules spoke against this.
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Hey, great thread...
2.5 MILLION members
100 or so moderators
Care to calculate the member to moderator ratio?
Maybe you could start a new thread with the answer..

nebenezer said:
Care to calculate the member to moderator ratio?
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You were being facetious I assume. I'd be more than willing to do that math, but since you were able to find letters on a keyboard I assume you also can do it
P.S. I came in when I saw "lol, socks" in the preview. I still don't get it.

nebenezer said:
Hey, great thread...
2.5 MILLION members
100 or so moderators
Care to calculate the member to moderator ratio?
Maybe you could start a new thread with the answer..
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It would be more accurate to calculate the # of forums/moderator ratio.
I'm interested in any alternative suggestions you might have. If you care to look at the threads, it's only a relatively small handful of trolls and junk topic creators.

perdurabo2 said:
It would be more accurate to calculate the # of forums/moderator ratio.
I'm interested in any alternative suggestions you might have. If you care to look at the threads, it's only a relatively small handful of trolls and junk topic creators.
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My point is threads like this do nothing to help the situation.
We had a day long "town hall" meeting several months ago where the mods and users came together to discuss ways of improving things.
If you think a thread is junk or is in the wrong forum USE THE REPORT BUTTON
The mods don't have time to read every single thread and determine if it is legit or a waste of space. They asked us members for our help and said the best thing we can do to help is use the report button as it is intended.
Not to mention that with all the bullcrap threads that get started every day you are going to complain about the mods???
If you are going to complain about anyone it should be about the jerks that come in here with tunnel vision on the "New Thread" button and start new threads without reading ANYTHING
Is it an inconvenience? Does it clutter the forum in a HUGE way?
Yes and Yes, but complaining about the moderation is the wrong perspective.
Reminder: The mods here are V O L O U N T E E R S ! ! ! Help them out, go on a bullcrap thread reporting frenzy.

nebenezer said:
My point is threads like this do nothing to help the situation.
We had a day long "town hall" meeting several months ago where the mods and users came together to discuss ways of improving things.
If you think a thread is junk or is in the wrong forum USE THE REPORT BUTTON
The mods don't have time to read every single thread and determine if it is legit or a waste of space. They asked us members for our help and said the best thing we can do to help is use the report button as it is intended.
Not to mention that with all the bullcrap threads that get started every day you are going to complain about the mods???
If you are going to complain about anyone it should be about the jerks that come in here with tunnel vision on the "New Thread" button and start new threads without reading ANYTHING
Is it an inconvenience? Does it clutter the forum in a HUGE way?
Yes and Yes, but complaining about the moderation is the wrong perspective.
Reminder: The mods here are V O L O U N T E E R S ! ! ! Help them out, go on a bullcrap thread reporting frenzy.
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Calm down. Having a bad day?
Also, if you're going to spell out "VOLUNTEERS" at least spell it correctly.

perdurabo2 said:
Also, if you're going to spell out "VOLUNTEERS" at least spell it correctly.
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LMAO!! I literally spit my lunch out hahahahahaha

perdurabo2 said:
Calm down. Having a bad day?
Also, if you're going to spell out "VOLUNTEERS" at least spell it correctly.
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Having a great day, I just dont understand why you complain about the mods regarding a problem that you are contributing to with this very thread.
Take your own advice:
perdurabo2 said:
Please don't start new topics to make random comments, use one of the many existing threads covering this topic.
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I think this is my 5th reply to this type of topic.
Your just adding to what your complaining about. A thread like this pops up almost daily.....
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perdurabo2 said:
Where are the moderators? I seem not to know how to use this forum?...
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The moderators are out not making new threads in a wrong place.
Alternative to thread-making altogether, just send them a personal message to get your issue resolved.
I like to type things... And you are reading this...
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perdurabo2 said:
It seems like the forums have gone to complete hell lately with flames junk topics like "lol, socks" and "omfg 2.2 root!!???".
Is xda-devs short of moderators to lock and delete crap topics and flames? I thought the forum rules spoke against this.
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hey why did you edit the original post?>

Tilde88 said:
hey why did you edit the original post?>
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I'm not sure that I did. Is there a way to see a version history?

im right here, everyday and night. i would suggest reporting posts that are in violation of forum rules. i do my best to read as many threads i can and at least drop in and check out the conversations taking place. that said i cant read every post in every forum. the solution to this isnt to start a thread in the spirit of complaining about things not going the way u want them to. the solution would be to take action and report the posts that are out of line. this is a community and every member of the community can report people. at the second a post is reported most likely a moderator will handle the situation.
so please instead of complaining. do something to help out. contribute something to the community. dont add to the problem by flaming back or starting threads to complain about it.
that said... this thread is closed and ill leave my answer for everyone to see. i alone cant see everything. but we all together can bring those who are here for the wrong reason to light, so they can be dealt with.
PS this was posted in the wrong section. Questions need to be posted in Q&A. hence the title of the subforum(Q&A)

Lock Dev sections

Really Really wish that XDA would lock everyday peeps from posting in ROM threads.
No matter how many times it is said, seems most do not follow directions then ask why, or ask if they do need to follow directions, or ask why some BS app like netflicks wont work with a different carrier on new ROM.
250 pages of posts and 248 are spam and crap from peeps that evidently should nopt be messing with their phones in the first place.
Sigh ok I feel better now....

What is the point in stopping the users of ROMs from posting about them?

I agree with the above posting, if you deny people from posting their questions, what they learned, what oddity they discovered in a new rom.......... well then, you stymie progress. And, after all isn't THAT what these forums are about? improving our experience and improving our learning ?

If you really look at ROM threads these day there is very little good information or even helpfull information being posted by the masses.
Create a spam thread for the ROM in general, and GOOD information can be transfered to the actual ROM thread in the Dev section.
Everyone is told to search and read first, and I have spent the last few years doing that with out having the need to repost questions that have already been posted. But I will admit that lately with as much growth as this sight has had, Threads are being crapped up so bad it makes it hard to do so, leading to a vicious circle.
Seriously in one ROM thread alone you have 280+ pages now in a fairly new thread, and 270 of the pages are junk posts.

and now how can i download new updates to americandroid rom???

Posting, not downloading.

So we know this is a problem, and we're willing to go to great lengths to protect the development parts of the site as per the announcement.
It's a tough balance, but we think restricting new replies for those with under 10 posts, and new threads for those with under 50 posts will help a lot.

svetius said:
So we know this is a problem, and we're willing to go to great lengths to protect the development parts of the site as per the announcement.
It's a tough balance, but we think restricting new replies for those with under 10 posts, and new threads for those with under 50 posts will help a lot.
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That could work. It really doesn't take long to post 50 times.

There has been a severe surge in noob activity and the search function has lost all use as they do not use it.
We get 10000000000000 threads all about the same problem.
There must be a way of getting them in control.
The worst is noobs in dev threads as they don't know **** and there for fill dev threads with utter spam and trash.
Help us obiwan kenobi your our only hope.

What if we make it so that you can "down-vote" replies, similar to reporting, and when 3-5 people down-vote the same post or user, it removes/hides the post and bans the user from posting in the thread for a period of time, while displaying a message saying so.

¤ you're ¤ our only hope
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Product F(RED) said:
What if we make it so that you can "down-vote" replies, similar to reporting, and when 3-5 people down-vote the same post or user, it removes/hides the post and bans the user from posting in the thread for a period of time, while displaying a message saying so.
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Could be abused..

OmegaRED^ said:
Could be abused..
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That's why I said 3-5 votes and also banned from posting in that thread for a period of time (ie 15 minutes). If we, the responsible members can't be trusted with something this simple, then there's no hope of fixing this.
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The OP should have used the search also. There is a very similar thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070421

This whole topic is stupid if u don't like peeps posting stuff then don't read stuff or get off this sit. Now I feel better
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*[VOTE-YES] For XDA To Add A [SOLVED-BUTTON]*

* MODS PLEASE CONSIDER *
Double Post Sorry!!!
First off I'm Posting this in Q & A because this where I Waste ALOT my Time Trying to Help people, to just Later Find out that the Problem has Already been Solved! Lol...
I Can't even Count the number of threads I read from day to day from users that need Help of some sort with their phones, and that's No Problem! After all that's one of the many Purposes of XDA...
But anyways, after seeing how Useful the [Thanks Button] turned out I've been thinking why Not Add a [Solved Button] Also? This way people like me Won't try to Help Users that No Longer Need Help!!
I Mean it'll Save Space and Time Both! If this was Posted somewhere else I Apologize, but I Haven't come Across it!
I Really think this may also Help the Mods Close some of the Dead Threads that are No Longer being used!
Please Give Feedback...
Thank You!

I'll second that.
This is a signature.

ZBigT said:
I'll second that.
This is a signature.
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Now if only 100 More people Felt like us... Lol!

Moved to the appropriate forum.

I believe there is a 'Resolved' feature available to OPs in the Q&A forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't get a lot of use. Perhaps wider awareness is needed.
Also, I'm not 100% sure on this but if, when creating a new thread, you choose 'yes, this thread is a question!' tickbox at the bottom, the option for 'resolved' becomes available in all forums? That may not be correct.
I wouldn't say it was a waste of time to help someone and find they'd already found the answer, but I do agree that it can be annoying at times, especially if you're subscribed to the thread and awaiting their response or other questions.
You have my vote

juzz86 said:
I believe there is a 'Resolved' feature available to OPs in the Q&A forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't get a lot of use. Perhaps wider awareness is needed.
Also, I'm not 100% sure on this but if, when creating a new thread, you choose 'yes, this thread is a question!' tickbox at the bottom, the option for 'resolved' becomes available in all forums? That may not be correct.
I wouldn't say it was a waste of time to help someone and find they'd already found the answer, but I do agree that it can be annoying at times, especially if you're subscribed to the thread and awaiting their response or other questions.
You have my vote
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Thank you, Appreciate the Detailed Reply also!

mee too. . . . . . .

good idea
if nothing else at least this helps to boost my post count

+1.
10 chars. Don't read this because I just go on and on to fill up space. Really, stop reading. This end bit is useless, me babbling about me trying to look like I know what I'm doing..

ikingblack said:
+1.
10 chars. Don't read this because I just go on and on to fill up space. Really, stop reading. This end bit is useless, me babbling about me trying to look like I know what I'm doing..
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Lol... I Guess I just Don't follow Directions that well, The Rebel in me Kept Saying just Keep Reading! Lol...

Good idea.
Ubuntu forms handle this pretty well. Just do it the same way
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[Q} Question for Mods

Is there any info to be made public about why another Developer was banned from XDA?
Comment from Mod:
Closing this as OP has been banned for a significant amount of time.
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Not trying to be mean or anything just trying to help answer your question a bit better so the trolls don't eat this up, as these types of threads always seem to just turn into to flame wars and *****ing. I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about and it has been discussed several times in other threads. I guess they may have been closed, now that I think about it, either way i'd recommend just a pm to dec3dace (I think thats how you spell it) he's our new epic only mod. He's pretty good and should get back to you.
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Thank you, I searched, but its very possible I just missed them, though the thread was locked at 5am or so this morning.
Pretty much just looking for an official comment, not really a discussion.
In a perfect world, a mod would post up the "why" then lock this thread

Another developer, how many have been banned thus far?
And maybe thats why I can't find the rom I'm looking for. I guess it dosnt matter. So this seems like a friendly place?

I am a little surprised because I had heard he had talked things out with them. The Roms are all over, it'd suck if the forum went empty or shifted somewhere else.

I heard his thread was mistakenly closed then he cussed out the mod, then I think it was reopened then he got banned for the cus out.
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Taking things online personally and disrespecting MODs shows lack of character on one's part.
Want respect? then give it instead of demanding it.

xopher.hunter said:
I heard his thread was mistakenly closed then he cussed out the mod, then I think it was reopened then he got banned for the cus out.
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Thanks.
I wanted to know if it was a XDA Rules issue, (not a concern) or an issue with the software he posted (major concern)
Wish mods would just post a little note letting the community know the basics.
Don't need all the details, but a basic, a XDA rule was broken, or there was an issue with sw, or some such, which would be hugely helpful.

Android 4.2.2

Does any dev plan to make a rom for our device anytime soon? It seems there are official updates only for Gnex and few other devices at present time. I am guessing maybe a week before SamMobile releases something. Thoughts? Ideas? Answers?

Yes its a question
photolarry said:
Does any dev plan to make a rom for our device anytime soon? It seems there are official updates only for Gnex and few other devices at present time. I am guessing maybe a week before SamMobile releases something. Thoughts? Ideas? Answers?
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But it is relevant to Android development that is why I posted it here not QA forum

still wrong on where to post. And a search would've gotten you your answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728750

That is rules not answer
mt3g said:
still wrong on where to post. And a search would've gotten you your answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728750
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I do not see the answer there...Only how to TAG things with {MOD} or so on. And devs are reading THIS forum more! So I do not agree. And I am now an OP so leave my thread ALONE!

i agree wrong section, this is a question therefore it deserves to be in Q&A or just locked and deleted some people are still noobs

Lol, I like the idea of the thread, it's pretty neat, and friendly competition is great. The poll is a great idea but all your devs in it aren't even working on making any AOSP roms, except Jamison with AOKP but he is still dabbling with source and such. The link I gave you are the rules of what you can post in this sub-forum, none of the bunch include asking a question at all. Calm down a little and learn the rules my friend. Oh and I'm already running a 4.2.2 rom

photolarry said:
I do not see the answer there...Only how to TAG things with {MOD} or so on. And devs are reading THIS forum more! So I do not agree. And I am now an OP so leave my thread ALONE!
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Meh. Reported.

I reported it before I posted in it to help the guy out. Mods are busy with the announcement of 4.2.2. I'm sure there are about a 100 posts being made a minute in the wrong sections all over the world.

mt3g said:
I reported it before I posted in it to help the guy out. Mods are busy with the announcement of 4.2.2. I'm sure there are about a 100 posts being made a minute in the wrong sections all over the world.
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Yeah. I wouldn't have bothered with it if the OP hadn't decided to announce that he is free to post wherever he feels like because "I'm an OP now"

So Smart Azz...where did you get 4.2.2???
mt3g said:
I reported it before I posted in it to help the guy out. Mods are busy with the announcement of 4.2.2. I'm sure there are about a 100 posts being made a minute in the wrong sections all over the world.
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I do not see you answering this question. And if they wanna move it to QA...they will. I dont care at this point. I just want an idea of when we get in on this since it seems lately its only days after an announcement that someone has access to a build or source. So again, instead of whining at me....answer me! And if a Moderator is reading...go ahead...move this to Q/A...makes me no difference at all. I think this is relevant to development/developers. So if any Moderator disagrees...please move the thread. Again I do not care nor do I have that ability. I am just OP but do not have such functions on my interface.

From the moderator
Do not post this kind of thing here......... it belongs in Q & A not Development........ IF anything ends with or implies a "?" mark...... then it goes to Q & A
Next time posting non development related topics here will get infracted......
Thread moved to Q & A
Thanks ~~ oka1

Again...I said I dont mind
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Do not post this kind of thing here......... it belongs in Q & A not Development........ IF anything ends with or implies a "?" mark...... then it goes to Q & A
Next time posting non development related topics here will get infracted......
Thread moved to Q & A
Thanks ~~ oka1
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Nothing wrong with enforcement. I just thought it might get MORE views in DEV area is why I posted it. If the rule is strict (ends in ? ) then I will not post again. So apologies if they are warranted

photolarry said:
I do not see you answering this question. And if they wanna move it to QA...they will. I dont care at this point. I just want an idea of when we get in on this since it seems lately its only days after an announcement that someone has access to a build or source. So again, instead of whining at me....answer me! And if a Moderator is reading...go ahead...move this to Q/A...makes me no difference at all. I think this is relevant to development/developers. So if any Moderator disagrees...please move the thread. Again I do not care nor do I have that ability. I am just OP but do not have such functions on my interface.
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My previous post
Lol, I like the idea of the thread, it's pretty neat, and friendly competition is great. The poll is a great idea but all your devs in it aren't even working on making any AOSP roms, except Jamison with AOKP but he is still dabbling with source and such.
Why are you so angry haha? I gave you some insight and if you search a little OP you will get an idea of who might be dropping a 4.2.2 rom. I will not give you any other insight or links to such threads that might be only a couple away from your thread. Because you are simply not polite but demanding, and your tone is unheard of in these threads. I say good day.

Isn't asking for etas against the rules too?
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Not ETA question
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Isn't asking for etas against the rules too?
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It is question as to if they have access to builds...and where those might be. I am not asking for timeline for anybody to MAKE a rom at all. I basically wish to know idea of when there will be something out there for us to use on S3 devices in USA. Pretty much an information thing not ETA thing. Understand??

Why don't your reply to me?
I gave you information and you no reply to me? Why?

photolarry said:
I do not see the answer there...Only how to TAG things with {MOD} or so on. And devs are reading THIS forum more! So I do not agree. And I am now an OP so leave my thread ALONE!
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this kind of attitude is why no dev wants to listen to you.

If you'd read in the dev section your answer is there
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Spoon fed ....... open wide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37953635
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