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Hi:
Just got a new phone and used MyPhone to restore sms etc. to my new phone.
Well, it did restore all sms, but it restored them in a crazy, erratic order . Out of date, out of time (for example an sms from 10/25 shows after one from 10/26, and one from 10pm shows after one from 10am etc). Is there anything I can do about arranging them? I did of course try the view by MESSAGE TYPE, FROM etc (in the upper right of messaging), which only rearranged the main/last visible sms in the thread.
Also, the restored texts only show sent texts in TF3D sms tab (TF3D 2.1, WM6.5 stock ATT), but it does not show received texts.
Please help, as everything is a MESS now.
Thanks!
That's a good point. I noticed that too. Also my mms don't get restored with their pictures attached.
I've been having this problem for a bit now, wow, thought it was only me. However, when I log onto myphone on the net, everything is there, very strange
I've suffered the same problem as you guys, but I found a solution. Here are the steps I had to take to ensure the proper order of my SMS.
On your previous device you have to disable SMS threading. Here are the steps to do it (Assuming its WinMo 6.1):
1.) In your registry go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\
2.) Create new DWORD value name: SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
3.) Set the value for that DWORD to 1
4.) Exit and soft reset device
Now you have to install Jeyo Mobile Companion to back up your SMS on your old device. You can use it as a trial for 30 days. Here is the website: http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp
1.) Connect your previous device to the software and backup your SMS only (you will be given options to backup contacts and e-mail as well) using the software. It should be self-explanatory to do this. This creates a local backup file on your PC.
2.) Hard reset your Tilt 2
3.) Make sure in your Task Manager that Messaging is not in there
4.) Connect your Tilt 2 to Jeyo Mobile Companion. Choose the restore option to restore your SMS
5.) When the process is complete, go your SMS Inbox. If you see your Inbox sorting out your messages, then your job is complete. If you have a lot of SMS's this process can take a very long time. Do not interrupt the process at all! Just leave the phone idle for a while. If you do not see your Inbox sorting the SMS's continue reading.
6.) Delete all your SMS's on the Tilt 2. Make sure drafts, inbox, and sent items are empty. It can take a while to delete all the messages.
7.) Repeat steps 3-5
This is all based on my experience of restoring the SMS in the right order. If anyone has a simpler and more efficient way of doing this, please post.
Hi:
Thanks for your reply. Sadly I no longer have my old device.
Is there any other way of fixing this problem?
Thanks again!
From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
There were many complaints of this on the MyPhone forums and last I checked, Microsoft said that this was a known issue based on when the device was inserting a given message into the message store.
They said that they were working on it.
das-man said:
From my experience, the only way around it is converting your SMS backup to non-threaded SMS backup. I haven't tried this method but you can see if works for you.
I am not sure if AdvancedConfig 3.3 is compatible with WinMo 6.5, but I assume it is. Please research if it is beforehand because I couldn't find confirmation. You can download that app from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
Use that app to disable threaded SMS. Soft Reset and if all went well, your inbox should not have threaded SMS anymore. Then start following my steps from where you install Jeyo Mobile Companion. The only difference is that in the first step, you will be backing up your SMS from your Tilt 2.
Let me know if that works out for you if you decided to try it out.
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Hi:
Thanks so much for your replies
So, after restoring with Jeyo, can I then turn threading back on? I can't live without threaded messages lol.
Thanks again!
Oh I am sorry I forgot to mention that. After you backup your messages without the threading, you should hard reset your phone. Then just follow the steps like I mentioned. So yes, your threading should be enabled again by default so you don't have to worry about that on your part.
BTW, please don't forget to keep copies of your old backups (any backup files you had before I made my suggestions).
Hi:
Well when I disabled threaded messaging for some reason it caused my phone to become unresponsive. SMS tab was no longer loading in TF3D, and all of TF3D was basically unusable.
I had to hard reset, and restore with Sprite.
So, now I am back to the messed up SMSes.
Sorry to hear that. Yeah I was lucky enough to still have my old phone to mess around with so I am not sure how get your SMS in order. If you still feel like messing around I still have a few ideas in mind lol.
Forget trying to disable the threaded SMS all together. This time try backing up your SMS on your Tilt 2 using Jeyo. Once it's backed up, look in Jeyo and see how it is arranged. If you see all your received SMS in "Inbox" and sent SMS in "Sent" I guess that is a good sign. Then perform a hard reset on your phone and try restoring your SMS from Jeyo's backup file.
If after the first restore from Jeyo, your message is still out of order, don't panic. Like I mentioned earlier, delete all your SMS's(Not Hard Reset!) and perform the restore a second time. (I don't know the reasoning behind that, but hey it worked for me.)
Das-Man,
I have the HTC Touch Pro 2 with Verizon as my carrier and I tried your method.
I downloaded all my messages back onto my phone via My Phone. They were all out of order. So, I then downloaded Total Companion and edited the registry value as you said, so that they became unthreaded. Went to Jeyo's website, downloaded the program, backed them up.
I deleted all messages in my folders, deleted the registry values, made sure my mms was closed, etc. Then restored my messages. They went back on but they are still unthreaded in my windows sms windows.
I already had my contacts, etc backed up. So, I decided to reflash my rom thinking that it would definitely get rid of my threading edits. That went smoothly, and I tried again.
In the windows txt app they're still unthreaded, but in order. In HTC's texting window, all texts are now separated by author. IE. All of mine are at the top, with all of my correspondents at the bottom. Though they are in the correct order, this still isn't very helpful.
You have any more ideas of what I could do or where I might have gone wrong?
First of all, the HTC's texting Window is a mystery I have not solved yet. Yes, mine also has the same nonsense with the the messages I sent on top while the messages I received on the bottom. I am still researching into it, and if i find a solution, I'll definitely let you know.
Now for your Windows txt app; after you reflashed the rom you said your msgs are still unthreaded after you transferred them. I am not sure if I had the same problem but I remember something was wrong the first time I transferred. That is why I deleted all the text messages and did the transfer process a 2nd time w/o reflashing the rom. In other words, the first transfer usually doesn't work for some odd reason but the 2nd time it does. If you see messages being sorted, then you are good to go, and don't touch it til you are certain it is done. I hope I didn't confuse you lol. BTW is it WM 6.5?
Ugh, this is the most frustrating thing ever.
After reading your post, I reflashed my rom again. Put the txts on once, it was a no go. No sorting happened. I deleted all of them, reconnected to Jeyo, and went to restore again.
Jeyo got through all the inbox and about 1/2 the sent box. Then it errored and closed out, not completing the restore. I went into my inbox to delete this incomplete transfer, and lo and behold what was there began to sort. I left it alone to make sure and everything rethreaded. It was fantastic. But as I said, 1/2 my sent messages were misssing and thus did not get rethreaded in. So, I deleted all my messages again. Repeated process, jeyo didn't error this time.
But of course, now they refuse to rethread. I have deleted/re downloaded probably about 10 times now and not once did it begin to resort my txts. I even reflashed the rom, hoping that it only would work the 2nd time, still no cigar.
I just don't understand what makes the windows messaging app want to rethread or not. Are there special options I should select in the restore? Am I supposed to be checking that overwrite box?
And yes, this is WM 6.5.
When I was doing the transfer, I did not have the overwrite option checked off. The best thing i could suggest, is reflash your Rom. Make sure in task manager that messaging is not in there. Use Jaya to transfer all your SMS to the phone. If it did not thread, make sure you delete all your text messages. Don't use Jaya to delete the SMS's but use the phone. Make sure you delete your sent box, inbox and even drafts. If you have a lot of messages, it can take quite a while to delete so don't panick. When you see everything is clearn try the transfer process again and hopefully it threads. I'm sorry if I'm repeating exactly what you did, but that is the best I can think of.
I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
I don't seem to have the problem you are all facing. I tested many different scenarios without turning off Threaded Messaging. First synced all the messages, then archived only a few that were part of a threaded message. they obviously got deleted from the phone. Later I restored the same messages from the archive and voila, they were all back perfectly.
I'm not sure, but many of you might not be aware that there is a new version of MyPhone available. The one that came with my ROM wouldn't work unless I upgraded it, which I did.
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I got it to work. I had to turn of the threading option when I transferred the texts over. Once they were one, i went and renabled threading. All threaded perfectly. =)
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Good to hear. BTW, were you able to get the HTC Messaging to thread properly?
When I delete a text, it should really be deleted and not hidden away for somebody to find later. That is what's happening on my Tilt 2 phone (stock rom, wm6.5).
When using the "search phone" feature, it found every text I have ever deleted. I click on a message and it opens up. Afterwards, I can go to touch-flo messaging, click on all messages, and the initial screeen will be ipm.root with all my messages that were supposedly deleted months ago. If I click on ipm.root drop down tree at the top, the screen shows the normal email accounts and folders (inbox, draft, outbox, etc). The only way to get the ipm.root to display again is to do another "search phone" and open a message that was supposedly deleted, then go back to the touch-flo ->all messages screen. From there, I can truly select and delete all of them.
I've searched and can't find anything on this issue. Is there a fix to make sure that sms messages delete when you tell it to instead of hiding them. They can build up over time and take up memory space. It's annoying that delete really means hide on this phone.
I'm watching this thread with interest
same here! i supposedly deleted a bunch of sms text messages and through sktools search message files i found them and was able to read them!
I too would like to find a solution to this. One of the tweaking tools (I think it is Advanced Config Tools) has an option to set the max number of texts saved in the deleted folder. I set this to 0 so now I don't have to manually delete the files from that folder too (although the deleted files still go to the deleted folder and for some reason it irritatingly sometimes takes a while for the files to actually disappear from there). Now I find that the files are still taking up space somewhere else.
Anyone know how to stop this behavior?
Hummm...I just did a search using Search Phone and the only thing that came up were messages that had not yet been deleted.
I'm using a Verizon TP2 with MightyROM's latest official ROM (released 5-24-10).
Maybe this is just an issue on T-Mobile?
ps. I think I figured out why the texts sometimes don't disapear from the deleted folder right away with max allowed set to 0. I think you have to close out WinMo text (not just minimize it or close the Sense message screen) for them to go away.
The problem is not going to fix itself
Well, I was hoping that someone may have a fix for this by now. It's just not right for these messages to pile up in a hidden place, when I tell it to delete.
I guess it's not bothersome to most people.... since it's hidden.
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When I delete a text, it should really be deleted and not hidden away for somebody to find later. That is what's happening on my Tilt 2 phone (stock rom, wm6.5).
When using the "search phone" feature, it found every text I have ever deleted. I click on a message and it opens up. Afterwards, I can go to touch-flo messaging, click on all messages, and the initial screeen will be ipm.root with all my messages that were supposedly deleted months ago. If I click on ipm.root drop down tree at the top, the screen shows the normal email accounts and folders (inbox, draft, outbox, etc). The only way to get the ipm.root to display again is to do another "search phone" and open a message that was supposedly deleted, then go back to the touch-flo ->all messages screen. From there, I can truly select and delete all of them.
I've searched and can't find anything on this issue. Is there a fix to make sure that sms messages delete when you tell it to instead of hiding them. They can build up over time and take up memory space. It's annoying that delete really means hide on this phone.
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they are not actually deleted because of the patriot act george w. bush passed...it is very sad...
After deleting from the inbox I will go to tools and empty the deleted folder. I've done searches and haven't been able to find them after that. I also Run Memmaid and that might purge them as well.
* first, install sms backup & restore.
* next, open app, select preferences, select Backup Folder then select External Storage.
* next, in preferences go to Backup Preferences, check Selected Conversations Only, then select “Select Conversations" to select whose text messages you want to save.
* The text messages backup pretty fast but if your phone does not give you enough time to backup all the messages you want, you can backup certain people's texts in one backup, then backup other people's texts in the next backup. It will save the backups to different folders (rather than over-write previous backup).
* on your phone, install sms backup & restore, your sd card and you are set to restore your text messages.
I have a very strange bug since downloading and installing the latest OTA update. I'm just running a stock system if you need to know.
Basically after the update I went to messages and some old messages I have are shown as being received from the completely wrong person :S These messages were not originally received on my desire HD but I put them all on it when I got the phone. The original person who sent them is in my contact list and linked with their facebook account and all that. Before the update it was showing the messages as being sent from the correct person.
Is there any way to fix this...it's very frustrating as there are over 50 messages which it has done this for.
I cannot say if it's doing it with new messages as that person is away on holiday so I can't check but messages received on my DHD from them seem to be ok...it's only happened with the messages I transferred onto the phone.
Thanks
Also I've now tried backing up all those messages to my gmail account using the SMS Backup+ app. They appear on my gmail from the original sender, then I deleted them off my phone and restored them using the app but it goes back to being shown as the wrong person (it keeps linking it to the same wrong person). The only details I have of the wrong person are what has been sync'd from facebook. There is no connection between them and the original sender (and I've checked all the contact links).
Also I wanted to try deleting that wrong person and then restoring the messages but I cannot figure out how to delete them off the phone. They are only on the phone because of the facebook contact sync so when I try delete contact it gives me a list of my contacts which they are not on as they're only in the 'people' section. I guess deleting them of facebook would work but I don't want to do that if possible.
Sorry if this is getting confusing.
well, tried to unlink facebook contacts with your contacts ?
I have this problem as well, only happened after the latest update.
I think to rectify this a new update will be released from HTC as this bug was also present on the original Desire phone, and resolved with a update.
Very annoying I agree, lets hope its fixed soon.
Just out of interest which country are you in and which network are you on?
Im in UK and on T-Mobile.
ricocchet said:
I have this problem as well, only happened after the latest update.
I think to rectify this a new update will be released from HTC as this bug was also present on the original Desire phone, and resolved with a update.
Very annoying I agree, lets hope its fixed soon.
Just out of interest which country are you in and which network are you on?
Im in UK and on T-Mobile.
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I'm in the UK on o2 but the phone was bought new unlocked.
I even went as far as deleting the person off facebook. The messages then appeared as they should from the original contact but I then re-added that person and as soon as they accepted it linked the messages back to them. Its so strange as these people have nothing to do with each other, their names aren't even similar.
ccart said:
I'm in the UK on o2 but the phone was bought new unlocked.
I even went as far as deleting the person off facebook. The messages then appeared as they should from the original contact but I then re-added that person and as soon as they accepted it linked the messages back to them. Its so strange as these people have nothing to do with each other, their names aren't even similar.
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I rectified this problem by conducting a hard reset.
Probably not the news you want to hear, but it solved the problem for me.
ricocchet said:
I rectified this problem by conducting a hard reset.
Probably not the news you want to hear, but it solved the problem for me.
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Well I thought about it but decided to contact HTC support first. They suggested that I backup all my contacts to my SD card then delete them all off the phone. I really didn't see how this would help since the person being linked to the messages wasn't a 'contact' he was just added to the People app by facebook.
Also another thing I noticed is that on facebook some people choose to put their phone numbers up which get put on the phone when you sync your facebook contacts with the phone. This particular person decided to be clever and instead of putting actual numbers they put things like 'Mobile: I'm not telling you' so the number was saved on the phone as 'I'm not telling you'. I decided to go in and edit these on the phone (cause you can't delete them) to just numbers i.e. '12345' so that none of his numbers were text.
Then in desperation I went and did what HTC recommended, deleting my contacts and restoring them and the problem was fixed!!!!
Unfortunately I can't confirm which of the 2 methods I tried actually work cause I did them without checking to see if they problem had been fixed in between.
So for anyone else with this problem. Check the person who the messages are being linked to, if they have text for their phone numbers, edit them to numbers (any numbers). If this doesn't work go to People>Menu>Import/Export>Export to SD card, then select all the contacts. Then in People go to Menu>Delete>Menu>Select all and confirm. Then restore the contacts by going to People>Menu>Import/Export>Import from SD card and that should do it!!
I was deleting a 'thread' of text messages and I received 2 while the phone was taking its time deleting. I never viewed the text messages and I keep getting notifications!
When I get 1 text message it notifies me that I have 3. 2 were from the other day when I was deleting. It is like they are stuck in queue but my phone can't retreive them. I hope this makes sense.
I have the droid incredible with jermaine151 stock+ rom.
Is there a way to hook up to the pc and get into the text message queue and remove these that are stuck? Any ideas? I have tried re-installing the rom, the texts I got before I 'restored' using titanium backup didn't have the message! But after the restore, the problem came back...
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I was deleting a 'thread' of text messages and I received 2 while the phone was taking its time deleting. I never viewed the text messages and I keep getting notifications!
When I get 1 text message it notifies me that I have 3. 2 were from the other day when I was deleting. It is like they are stuck in queue but my phone can't retreive them. I hope this makes sense.
I have the droid incredible with jermaine151 stock+ rom.
Is there a way to hook up to the pc and get into the text message queue and remove these that are stuck? Any ideas? I have tried re-installing the rom, the texts I got before I 'restored' using titanium backup didn't have the message! But after the restore, the problem came back...
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Probably the only way would be to go to Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage applications, find the messaging app on the list, click on it and then clear the apps data. This should work, but it will also delete all of your other saved texts, and the messaging aps saved settings.
still working on it
Hi! Thanks for the input. I did that and I am still getting the notifications. I just went through deleted all old backups in titanium and made a new titanium backup excluding anything that said sms or mms. I am hoping this will eliminate the notifications.
I will keep updating. Please let me know if you have any other suggestions.
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I got it fixed! Here are the steps I took.
To be clear on what went down: I was deleting many text messages from multiple people... while the phone was thinking and doing its thing, I received 2 text messages but they got deleted with the rest!... I would receive notifications for those texts meanwhile they were deleted... It was like they were stuck in limbo but the phone didn't know that and would keep scrolling them in the status bar as if they were new... I couldn't get rid of the notifications. I made a titanium backup, factory wipe, but when the data was restored, the notifications returned too.
I noticed the texts were attached to the contact that sent them.
I made sure I had the most recent copies of titanium backups saved onto the computer.
I deleted that contact from my phone.
I deleted all titanium backups on the phone and created a new one but took caution to make sure that mms/sms items were not going in the batch(there were 3 total I think plus the widget just to be safe).
Then did the factory wipe and re-installed the jermaine151 rom again. When I restored the data and apps this time, my messages were clear! No notifications! Re-installed the contact too into the phone.
Hi, i have whatsapp and no problems, but when i installed telegram, i checked the contact list and telegram removed around 20 contacts of my phonebook! why¿?¿?¿?
Not just that, but i also checked back whatsapp and now all the contacts appear as phone numbers, like if they where not in my phonebook, but they are!
i talked with some poeple and they tell me they have no problem in they phones having both programs, maybe its something related to the rom i am using? anyone having same problems? i am using quark rom of 4.4
i am having my contacts JUST in the phone, not in the google account or SIM
thanks
Hi, I'm using CM11 on my Defy+. I always use Telegram and recently (about a month) installed WhatsApp. I got no problems doing this. All the contacts are still. All applications are working normally.
I'm also using gapps and Google contacts sync.
Make backups to prevent erros that led to caos such as lose contacts.
I think it's easier to make backups from the cloud (to a csv file) than use android special software (such as Titanium backup) to backup/restore from the phone specially if you have other devices with contact sync.
Hope you figure out how to fix it in your case and also got all the contacts back.
Hi! I have both installed and the only problem is if you move to the sd card Telegram because Telegram contacts will not be synchronized.
Similar problem, but so much more confusing!
I have whatsapp. One of my whatsapp contacts sent me a telegram invite. In telegram, the contact name doesn't show up, just the phone number. We chat for a millisecond but then switch back to whatsapp. We stick to whatsapp for months. I recently remembered that I had telegram and logged back in. THe contact was still a phone number. "Weird," I think. So I manually add that number to my whatsapp contact's info. Now I realize, the number is off by one digit. Maybe one is personal and one is business. The addition to my phone book generates a second whatsapp contact. Still following?
So, two whatsapp accounts. Whatever. Ok, could still be one business and one personal. But the secondary number has weird motivational quotes for the profile pic. And the profile pic changes multiple times (my friend has the same landscape type profile pic and leaves it up for months at a time). And the secondary acct seems...feminine. Weird, I'm thinking. And suddenly there is a selfie that is decidedly a woman. But it disappears within a couple of minutes. The activity on both accounts is sporadic and weird. This is a guy I've been friends with for a long time, and I am fairly familiar with his online activity, so I'm kinda scratching my head at this point. And also a little concerned bcs I haven't really heard from him. And now I'm confused too, bcs both numbers have his name attached to them (bcs I added the second one to my address book) and I had recently cleared all my chats...so now I'm not even sure which acct is his primary acct...bcs at some point BOTH profile pics had changed.
Had to dig up his original contact info from somewhere else to straighten it all out. Deleted the secondary number (since he never gave me that one, no point keeping it.). Now when I go back on Telegram, it's back to just a phone number, but it's the same old number he's always had. WTF is going on?? And his time stamp on telegram is still from a couple of weeks ago, so it's not like he's on there changing things up.
I should probably just ask, but at this point I feel like I've playing detective and have way oversleuthed it. So although I'm still curious (and would love some insight), I'm just leaving it alone.