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Please tell my why I shouldn't return the M9 for an S6!

I've had my M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?

Base on the reviews, only the hardcore HTC fans are going to choose M9 over the S6.
Quite honestly if you have a chance to return the phone I suggest you should.
I have a feeling this phone will be a complete flop and will probably put the nail in the coffin.
I'm personally going to wait a few weeks after this phone hit the bargain bin before I make a purchase.

ledvedder said:
I've had my M9 for 2 days now, and I'm starting to see things that are disappointing to me. Especially for such a high end, pricey device. Battery life is not very good at all compared to my old LG G2. And it takes forever to charge. The camera is, for lack of a better word, horrible.
I'm trying to decide if I should return it to T-Mobile in exchange for a Galaxy S6. All the reviews I've read and watched lean toward the S6.
Tell me why or why not?
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Have you ever had a Samsung phone? I have a Galaxy S4 and from I've experienced, touchwiz has got to be the most laggy skin. I can't go ten minutes without my phone freezing up for a few seconds. Not to mention, the battery life on it is awful. Also, if you ever want to root or flash your phone, I'd stay away from Samsung. Rooting is possible if you have an unlocked bootloader (which you should because it's T-Mobile) but since the GS6 is using an in-house processor that is locked down, roms like Cyanogen mod aren't supported. Lastly, you have to pay much more to get a higher storage capacity GS6 because there's no SD card slot. Of course, all of these things may not matter to you but I for one am tired of buying phones but not owning them. I will be buying an unlocked HTC One M9 straight from HTC. That way, I don't have to put up with the carriers anymore and I can truly do whatever I want with my phone. Hope this helps.

It's always a risk getting a new phone, but have to say the M8 was a more solid phone than the M9 in many ways.
As for Samsung, they are very laggy and tend to annoy me over time. The camera of the S6 will blow the M9 away, so if that's your focus then go for it.

*drum rolls* looks like M8s is on the way. Just when you thought the party was almost over. I have lost words for HTC by now.
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All the reviews I'm reading say that Samsung has optimized touchwiz and it's very fluent now, and the battery, although smaller than the M9's, is much better due to the CPU.

Sense man.. For me it's always been that that has cut the decision...
I can't go on any other launcher, i just don't like them.. Used to Sense (and TouchFlo) so much now that i just cannot switch anymore..
Guess you could call that a reason for you too if the launcher is anything important to you.

Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT

I think if I could put the M9's speakers into the S6, my choice would be a no brainer.

The LG G2 is an anomaly when it comes to battery life. Heck, they couldn't even replicate it with the G3. If battery life is your singular focus then stay with the G2. But you can't expected the G2 to be the baseline going forward for comparison.
I've had the G2. I've had the Nexus 5 and I'm on day 2 of the M9. The M9 blows those 2 phones out of the water in terms of the smoothies of operation. It isn't even close. I'm sure the hardware of the S6 will provide for similar possibilities but I am going to have to read a lot of reviews the says that this is a new TouchWiz for Samsung before I believe that that phone will not bog down in software over time.
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shook187 said:
Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT
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Subpar in every category? That's nonsense.

Samsung Galaxy S6 vs HTC One M9: Turning the Tables: https://youtu.be/z5tqAaXkRv8

Just one thing to add: If you're looking to the S6 for battery life, look again. My S6 has some HORRIBLE battery drain, and it seems like most people have it. Software updates are definitely needed.

shook187 said:
Sense, really? Choose a sub par device in pretty much every category because Sense is really that good? NOT
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I would choose an HTC any day over that hideous mess they use to call touch wiz.
Gs6 has an exynos processor. Good luck getting bug free aosp roms on that. Many devs stopped deving for exynos devices because of how closed they are. Things need to be hacked together pretty badly and even then it doesn't work fully. Samsung is much more closed than qualcomm is. So I would pick what you call a sub par device that has a processor that a lot of devs are familiar with deving for (qualcomm in general not the 810) and quite honestly I'd pick an iPhone over a Samsung device. That's how much I despise their UI.
shook187 said:
Base on the reviews, only the hardcore HTC fans are going to choose M9 over the S6.
Quite honestly if you have a chance to return the phone I suggest you should.
I have a feeling this phone will be a complete flop and will probably put the nail in the coffin.
I'm personally going to wait a few weeks after this phone hit the bargain bin before I make a purchase.
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I went with the M9 and I'm not a HTC fanboy. Yes I have had the m7 and m8 but also during that time I've owned countless other phones. I'll give anything a shot except Samsung. I don't mind using a Samsung note 10.1 but I will only use it for notes. But not for anything else

graffixnyc said:
I would choose an HTC any day over that hideous mess they use to call touch wiz.
Gs6 has an exynos processor. Good luck getting bug free aosp roms on that. Many devs stopped deving for exynos devices because of how closed they are. Things need to be hacked together pretty badly and even then it doesn't work fully. Samsung is much more closed than qualcomm is. So I would pick what you call a sub par device that has a processor that a lot of devs are familiar with deving for (qualcomm in general not the 810) and quite honestly I'd pick an iPhone over a Samsung device. That's how much I despise their UI.
I went with the M9 and I'm not a HTC fanboy. Yes I have had the m7 and m8 but also during that time I've owned countless other phones. I'll give anything a shot except Samsung. I don't mind using a Samsung note 10.1 but I will only use it for notes. But not for anything else
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Say what you want but me and most consumers I'm not going to pay a premium for device with 2014 hardware.
I'll wait 2 or 3 months and wait for the carriers to slash the price of this humongous flop of a phone.
And if you think developers are going to develop for the M9, good luck. The M9 won't sell enough units to warrant any development.

shook187 said:
Say what you want but me and most consumers I'm not going to pay a premium for device with 2014 hardware.
I'll wait 2 or 3 months and wait for the carriers to slash the price of this humongous flop of a phone.
And if you think developers are going to develop for the M9, good luck. The M9 won't sell enough units to warrant any development.
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It will for sure get a more stable AOSP build than the S6 will. But THB I'm happy with Sense. For the first time I can say I like a skinned version more than stock. I'm not a fan of the overall look of stock lollipop(love stock KK though) and I think HTC did a nice job with Sense. The only way I would consider an S6 if there could an almost bugfree build of AOSP like many of the qualcomm devices. With Samsung, the camera will never work right, other UI things will never work fully because of how closed Samsung keeps it. And I don't need anyone else to develop for it. Anything I want to do I can do on my own just fine and if I can't... I learn . I was making a point that people pick phones for many reasons, I personally hate touchwiz. I look at Samsung's UI and I just want to puke. I do think it's a really nice piece of HW, It would have been better with a Qualcomm chip that way you can ditch TW and at least have a decent stock experience but that won't happen with the exynos chip.

M9 has faults yes. But tweak ability is great. I have the m9 in my hands and my gf the s6. Ill take the m9 anytime over the s6.

ledvedder said:
All the reviews I'm reading say that Samsung has optimized touchwiz and it's very fluent now, and the battery, although smaller than the M9's, is much better due to the CPU.
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Not the first time Samsung has made that claim. Touchwiz is an abomination.

fernando sor said:
Not the first time Samsung has made that claim. Touchwiz is an abomination.
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First in my experience the M9's battery is very decent (haven't looked at stats or sot) but I'm a heavy user and it lasts me the day which is all that matters.
The Camera on the M9 is not terrible but the optics on the S6 are better.
The build & design of the M9 is subjective obviously we all have different likes, but for me HTC still has the S6 beat here. The S6 is a huge step up from any previous Samsung phone though.
The fluidity well when I tested side by side both are very nice here and are very very fast, Samsung has the better option to quick launch the camera.
Sense & touchwiz well for me who is tired of the latter sense is the better of the two, and blinkfeed is also better than I forget Samsung's thingie lol
Theme manager this is miles ahead of Samsung's attempt.
Storage, well the M9 being 32gb base storage is fantastic & expendable, S6 you loose this option.
Boomsound & audio, well obviously HTC has this as front facing audio is always going to be better, but the quality is the best I have experienced on any phone & I have had quite a few. Headphones this applies to but can't compare with the S6 so I don't know, but assume the M9 is better.
Each phone has plus points and negatives, for me though the M9 was the better choice for my liking.
I have had a lot of Samsung devices and just think all round despite the M9's flaws its the better phone (for me).
Both are great devices and Samsung has done very very well with the S6 & Edge.
If a phone doesn't meet your needs or you think its poor then your under no obligation to keep it, return for what will put a smile on the face

Anybody planning to switch from S7 Edge and why?

I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger screen
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
- Better screen colors in basic mode, brightness
Cons:
- TouchWiz, UI not as fluid as Nexus
- All glass desgin and the edges are nice but not practical at all
- Root voids the warranty
- Exynos can be rooted but I doubt we will see custom ROMs
HTC 10
Pros:
- Better build, metal
- Better fingerprint scanner in terms of NOT having to press the button as on S7 edge
- Closer to Nexus in terms of UI and fluidity
- Better development and custom ROMs, to my knowledge root does not void warranty
- Better audio
Cons:
Nothing major so far I see, the items listed in pros in the S7 edge part are of a better quality but the HTC 10 is acceptable there as well.
I know both are great mobiles. Interested in your opinions as I have never owned an HTC before so do you think it is worth it? I can still return sell my S7 edge that I got at a good price which is equivalent to the price of HTC 10.
Thanks

Heck no.....

ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice

My wife is on her 3rd S7 since launch. I'm sure its just a bad batch of phones she's gotten. Specifically, her signal is so bad, that even the verizon tech when logged into her phone was mystified that she could do anything. Don't get me wrong, my wife likes the phone, physically. But that is about it. Its been nothing but a pain in the Arse. She almost switched to an Iphone. Its that bad.
Again, this is just one situation. YMMV,
Me, I'm dropping the LG V10 to get this phone. and the V10 is a beast, but I've come to realize, that HTC is where its at.
thanks for reading. Good luck with your decision.

Sammy Exynos versions are already getting developer support, with a few roms out.
It's the US versions that aren't getting any love.
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samitro said:
I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:

hTC is where its at!!!![emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] OIS front and back and SOUND. That's all I need. Hehe

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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:
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clearly that says S7 and not S7 edge...
I am having a hard time deciding, I do like the S7 Edge a lot, I dont have to do stupid crap to limit my battery, and with my variant, I can tweak the sound to be louder or dual speaker (obviously not as good as HTC speaker)
It also IP68 which is pretty cool if you go to the beach and want to take picture near the water.
its gonna be a hard challenge for sure for me, I order the HTC 10 and I currently have the S7Edge for about 2 months running renovate rom, its really smooth, anyone who says Touchwiz is clunky and slow obviously hasnt touch the s6 or S7, even if they are clunky and slow, nothing custom roms wont fix, that being said, I do love HTC blinkfeeds. That exynos processor is the best to date and I'm not talking about benchmark score, I'm talking about battery life, day to day performance and thermal control. It's gonna be tough deciding, however if you know your priority of what you want, it shouldnt be a problem, unfortunately for me, I'm a phone whore.
dont let anyone here influence you by saying HTC 10, theres a reason why the S7 edge getting so much praise from everyone. Use both phones and see, HTC and Sony forum/thread are notorious for having employees coming in and prop up their phone (like that guy who post a video that is completely irrelevant to your questions and he clearly does not know anything about the S7 and S7 edge, there is custom roms for the exynos S7/S7edge), I mean let's be honest, they arent exactly doing well and who can blame them, if they dont do it, sales gonna go down, and they be out of business.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice
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you know you talking about a very extreme case...putting the phone on display at max brightness, for 12-24 hours a day is not a typical scenario of an average user and even that it takes a while for it to burn in.

Thanks all for the comments. I love the s7 edge and I'm not having any main issues with it so logically should stay with the edge as no phone is perfect. I guess I'll wait before I can hold the 10 in my hand to decide.
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I just didn't get if you want nexus, buy nexus xD
Sadly I really like the edge version of Samsung and the glass... For HTC I liked the sense... Witch can't say now. So still not sure with what will upgrade. Marshmallow for M8 just ducked it up really bad... So the updates won't be problem . And what's the point to have 1208588 custom roms cuz when basically are all the same. (Except 1,2)
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I get lag on my s7 edge from time to time which is really annoying. But I don't want to downgrade in screen size either so I might go to Nexus 6p. I really wanted this phone but I wish it came in 5.5.
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I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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20degrees said:
I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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Have to agree, s7 edge screen is dismal tbh.phone often freezes and key pad is awful especially anything on the edge.
Ordered the 10 today..

I have switched from the edge to the 10. Imo the 10 feels much better in hand. With the edge I often had trouble with the sides registering my hand. Also I don't see the screen as a downgrade, it's beautiful.
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I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.

Triavius said:
I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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mouth-watering

Really like the size of the standard S7...
HTC should've had a better form factor, the S7 fits more confortably in the hand its not too tall nor is it too wide.
The 10 size is making be hesistant, but theres nothing really smaller worth having other than the S7 and the iPhone 6S (Which I've looked into also).
Like easy one handed use.

I haven't made my mind up yet but I really wish the 10 would have had a 5.5 in display. In terms of display quality I like them both the same. I just wish the HTC got brighter in direct sunlight than it does. I'm also worried that I won't be able to achieve the kind of battery life I'm getting on the S7 Edge which is why I will wait and see what others get when the phone becomes more widely available. Right now, I can get close to 8 hours SOT or 2 days of light/medium usage with the S7E.
I guess I'm just going to wait another couple weeks to see what happens after more people get the 10.

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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Hah, we'll see. Knowing myself I'll continue to say no to constantly trying out new ROMs at the same time as I'm downloading a new one.

Any Nexus 6P owners upgrading to the Note 7?

Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.

PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.

i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did

I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.

Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.

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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.

ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.

Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7

I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring

borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.

BarryH_GEG said:
Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.

gekkehenkie11 said:
I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.

yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...

Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.

The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.

I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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Nitemare3219 said:
if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here

I got the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge but is tired of it. Should I change?

Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance

no it will be a wise move as well you could save some bucks.

One is awesome but no community for software and modding. The other is cheaper and not as good hardware wise but hey you can flash to your heart's content.

Madhawk1995 said:
One is awesome but no community for software and modding. The other is cheaper and not as good hardware wise but hey you can flash to your heart's content.
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Even better hardware wise . Only the camera is a little bit less. but not bad!

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance
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How much would you sell? You can trade with my op3 tho . Mine is considerably mint in condition, no scratch or whatsoever.

Yep, i get rid of my s7, didn't like the small screen and the feel of it, felt like i was holding a dense rock everytime. Also, got hot and there were no roms for it. OP3 is faster too, one downside is the OP3 doesn't have a comparable screen or camera. The screen colors and resolution are a bit better on the samsung. S7 is also waterproof.

Get a OnePlus 3 if you like tinkering with your smartphone: you'll have good times together.
Stay with S7 Edge if you're anal about display and camera.

Faspaiso said:
Hi
I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone? There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
Do you think it's a stupid move to sell my S7 Edge and get this phone? Do this phone have any advantages over the S7 edge?
Thanks in advance
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S7 edge is far too superior in terms of cam and battery life. Also screen is way better. I can recommend Op3 if you are planning to buy new phone. I can't surely recommend as replacement of s7 edge. I own both phones!
Another point to add. If u are flasholic love to root and mess around with the phone then Op3 is the best choice. Lots of custom ROMs, no warranty issues if phone is rooted

Giocarro said:
Get a OnePlus 3 if you like tinkering with your smartphone: you'll have good times together.
Stay with S7 Edge if you're anal about display and camera.
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Excuse me sir, anal?

Oneplus3 has a high performance-price ratio.

Faspaiso said:
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I wonder if I should sell my S7 Edge for this phone?
There is much more development going on with faster updates and so on.
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NO ! There is a lot of dev but at the same time there are a lot of people who have issues with their phones after using those new releases
They released a Community Build 3.5.2 and told people to upgrade and try it but nobody could downgrade from that to their stock, people got stuck on 3.5.2 which was not working properly so then they had to release another build after few weeks to fix it as you can see from their official log: 'Fixed community build cannot flash back to official build issue' http://downloads.oneplus.net/devices/oneplus-3/

emptyragnarok said:
S7 edge is far too superior in terms of cam and battery life. Also screen is way better. I can recommend Op3 if you are planning to buy new phone. I can't surely recommend as replacement of s7 edge. I own both phones!
Another point to add. If u are flasholic love to root and mess around with the phone then Op3 is the best choice. Lots of custom ROMs, no warranty issues if phone is rooted
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Well S7 edge is not too superior in term of anything, camera can have slight advantage, but everyone is not a pro photographer to differentiate between the two, and it is not the main thing for most to select a phone, battery life of S7 edge is marginally better but dash charge which is 3 times faster than S7 charger, can give you 50% charge is around 15/20 minutes, which is a real edge.
Screen for both are same, one cannot differentiate which is which, if they dont tell you one is 2k and one is 1080p, its just spec.
OP3 is better looking, no screen accidental touches, no edge real estate loss, no image bending waste, 5 times smoother UI, touchwiz lag avoidance, easy to root and flash and come back to stock, CM 14 and other roms and so on.

AcidNoteZ said:
Excuse me sir, anal?
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Yes, it should mean "very picky" in a funny and informal conversation.
No offence intended, I'm read that expression a few times and thought it was widely known.

Giocarro said:
Yes, it should mean "very picky" in a funny and informal conversation.
No offence intended, I'm read that expression a few times and thought it was widely known.
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Oh okey, my bad then.

Wait for the pixel xl before you decide. If it's sux sell your s7 edge get the oneplus 3

why would you sell your S7 for OP3 - a phone that has a worse screen, battery & camera?

Who is Getting the New S9 and Why?

Also, tell from which device you are upgrading or staying...?
Big news!
quote from http://bgr.com/2018/02/25/galaxy-s9-preorder-pricing-best-deals-t-mobile-vs-verizon/
"Best Buy’s preorders will open on Friday, March 2nd, and Best Buy has a big headline offer to try and entice customers. Best Buy customers save $100 when preordering on a Verizon, AT&T or Sprint plan, on top of saving up to $350 when trading in a qualified smartphone. That’s total savings of $450, although as we note below, Verizon and AT&T are charging significantly more than Samsung for the device, so assuming Best Buy is using Verizon and AT&T’s pricing, the savings compared to buying from Samsung are not as great as it might seem."
That's 390 for S9+ and 270 for S9
What!

Currently have S7 Edge and i'n thinking to get the S9+, but i'm very disappointed with the design.
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I'm coming from a Oneplus 3, i really like this phone(i've tryied s8) but i'm not sure because of modding barriers like locked bootloader and knox counter

Nah!!! Sticking with the best phone...One Plus 5t....

If it doesnt come with the OEM unlock issue the note 8 has (talking about exynos, i dont waste money on crapdragon versions) i will get one.
If it does then ill pass on it like i did not on the note 8.
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In all likelihood I'll be going to the S9+ from the Essential PH-1. The Essential was a terrible choice for me but I couldn't justify over $1000 for a pixel 2XL. I'll likely get the S9+ through my carrier. I've gotten quite used to stock Android over the years so a skinned version on the Galaxy will be different. We'll see....

I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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I'll be getting the S9+ at the beginning of 2019, when the price starts to decrease a little. I'll be upgrading from my S7 Edge which just turned a year old few weeks ago.
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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high

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Dont do it.
I got a S8+ last december and i regretted it. battery was the worst (3,5-4h sot max) and the software lag too annoying. samsung is good for the first 6 months, then they begin to age rapidly
everybody knows that so i had sell my s8+ for a lot less than i bought it for. got me a mate10pro, happy now.
if u want s9 so badly, try to look for second hand around 2 months after launch... i think thats the better choice if you still want to experience the high
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I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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grumpycoder100 said:
I would have to agree on the first part, where Samsung's software does not age beautifully most of the time (my S7 edge thankfully is still running well and has maintained it's fluidity even after a year). Samsung still needs to learn to prioritise on optimisation IMHO. They focused wayy to much on the UI/UX till they forgot about the core system itself.
And yeah. I might also consider going for a second hand S9+ if the reviews don't go according to my expectations. I'll be waiting for MKBHD's (popular tech guy) review and will be watching it the moment it becomes available.
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I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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shah22 said:
I will agree, upgrading from a s7e is useless, the only reason that can be is a little more processing power, but still it isn't enough, and s7e for me too is running smoothly although there had been issues with build quality, but i really don't think mate 10 is more in performance than s8, maybe in other areas like ui etc it could be. I will pass on s9 and wait until there is a phone with real upgrade not some marketing gimmicks.
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True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)

0alfred0 said:
True, the mate10pro has exceptional battery life as well as lag free UI though. Before s8 I had a huawei Nexus 6p, had great battery life too (got warranty replacement after 1.5 years with fresh battery) so the s8 kinda feld like a downgrade.
I think the CPU speed is highly overrated nowadays and does not make a real impact on everyday use. (Apples Chip ist supposedly 2x faster than 835 but does the iPhone feel 2x faster?
All in all I upgraded for the bezelless screens... Anything else my Nexus 6p was almost as good at.
Anyone else who has a 2016 flagship (s7e or mate 9 or iPhone 7) should not upgrade for another reason than the larger screens... Anything else in the new phones has only improved a little and does not justify the price in my opinion (unless having the latest tech is part of your lifestyle)
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Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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shah22 said:
Agreed , but iphone 8 and X is almost 2x faster in real life too, so yes cpu power does impact in real life, search for their app loading times and video editing times on web, the fastest android phones were note 8 and then s8, they were lagging almost 1.5x.
And yes mate 10 got excellent battery life too thanks to its 4000 mah battery, i think every phone should have atleast 4000 mah battery these days,
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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff

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Well I don't know anyone who is editing video on his phone... That's what I mean with everyday a friend friend of mine has iPhone 8 and it doesn't feel significantly faster in my opinion, it's more about ram keeping apps for running (so you don't actually need to look for launch speed) and internet speed
Yes I think the biggest Upgrade in the future needs to be bigger batteries in order to keep up with the screens and all the other new stuff
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You know I have the s7 edge since release, it is still a beast. Can handle any game on the play store, lags here and there. But dont thing upgrading is worth it imo. Maybe when foldable phones come lol

Which custom rom & kernel developers will be getting the S9/S9+ ?
If not, will they be getting the Note 9 instead ?

I think i would be upgrading because this sounds like a perfect replacement for iphone-7. As for performance , I think it depends individual to individual on his config and usage patterns. There are 3 galaxy phones in my house including an aging s6 edge and all seem to be working fine.
Yes, its hard to match iphones in their speed and zero-lag but there are so many trade-offs that purchasing a iphone ahead of a s9 or a note-8 is not a worthy option.

I'm on Galaxy Note 4 and LineageOS 14.1. UHD video recording is not working and I need it. Better low light performance too on S9+. I don't like the curved glass though. I'd also much rather take a removable battery over any kind of IP rating but gotta move along with the times, I guess. I don't undertsand the all-glass exterior idea at all - it's slippery and a protective case is a must, adding to the cost.

Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.

I will stay on my S8 for now... S9 designed so bad... ?

Illrigger said:
Definitely getting an S9 as long as there's no down payment on Jump on Demand. On a v30 now, and the thing is just crap. It stutters - literally. As in the sound stutters and I have to reboot to fix it. It also has all kinds of lag on bluetooth stuff. 8 years on Android and never had anything this bad. Going back to Samsung and not looking at LG for a long time again.
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I wouldn't buy a US or Canadian version, the bootloader's will be locked again...total waste of money.
Go exynos for sure, the OEM unlock issue is a helluva alot better to have than have the device be totally locked down.
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