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Hi All !
I'm just about to get new phone and decided it to be SE. I love Arc but also like Neo cuz is smaler and fit better in pocket but i have few concerns.
Image quality - is it same as Arc's ?
Speed - is it as fast as Arc ?
and because smaler screen will battery life be better ?
Regards
Marek
Read here:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=200485&start=420
Pics quality AFAIK is a bit worse than Arc.
Personally I would take Arc.
Both handsets use exactly the same camera module, so the quality of the photos they take should be broadly similar.
Obviously every individual handset will vary slightly, not every Arc will perform exactly the same but there's no reason why the Neo should be any worse than the Arc.
Same goes for speed, both handsets use the same CPU/SoC and have the same amount of RAM.
As for battery life, I doubt there'll be much difference.
Yes the Neo has a smaller screen and that's an advantage but it's not a colossal size difference.
What's the difference between Neo and Ray?
The Ray has a smaller screen and an aluminium body.
All three (Arc, Neo and Ray) use basically the same hardware.
I would choose Ray over Neo because Ray looks stunning.
ray will be available in August and i like neo.
Q: why Neo screen is not as good as Arc's ? apart from size what specs are different ?
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Q: why Neo screen is not as good as Arc's ? apart from size what specs are different ?
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Who says it's not as good?
It's the same tech, just a smaller panel - which means it has a better pixel density.
I was reading few reviews and apparently Neo screen is not as bright as Arc screen.
I don't know what reviews you've been reading but GSMArena's measurements of the two screens have the Neo's display as brighter than the Arc's.
for me, Arc is the best one. I'm still don't know with Neo...
Get the arc... It's beautiful and has a premium look . I am very happy with it. Great headphone quality too . You will love it for sure
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Arc for it's looks and only that...other same sized AND priced phones out there that have twice the ram and double the cores.
Neo for size, front facing camera, and hdmi out (that looks terrible on big screen)
Ray for front facing camera and portability with power. Ray gets my vote!
i got Neo and i very happy with it ! lovely phone !
I am interested in Arc S.
So far i've had HTC devices made out of hard metal and they really felt quality.
However, HTC's screens are pure rubbish.
So, will I get a screen just as bright as the Galaxy one (which I like) in the Arc S ?
And is it built tough, with no squeaking cheap plastics or cheap design ?It sure looks nice.
A build quality comparison between the Arc and the Galaxy would be good if you've had both.
Thanks !
both are plastic so no comparison there. Its build quality is good I think ,I dropped my phone once with just a really small scratch. Brightness is very good too bright imo. I half it set at about 30% and its perfect.
the build in general is better the samsung, is more solid and dont make noises when you apply pressure, but the ARC is very lightweight in a drop test the arc you can get the same scratches you can get in the samsung (carcass, but in screen the weight of the arc reduce the % of suffer a scratch in the screen)
Build quality of htc is better, however SE has put one of the best LCD's in the arc, and it shows. As long as your not throwing your phone around, the better screen quality should more than make up the inferior build quality.
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Hey xda
I have a Xperia Z3 Black (1 Week old)
And i saw the LG G3 in a review and now im kinda interested in it.
What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
Im a poweuser im doing
-LOTS OF MANGA READING
-Lots of news reading
-Listen to a lot of music
-And i often like flashing new roms and mods
-Using it very often so battery is important too but if i can switch it i will buy 1 extra battery
whats not important
-camera
-waterproof (i dont need it)
thanks and regards your
RainbowSix
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Hey xda
I have a Xperia Z3 Black (1 Week old)
And i saw the LG G3 in a review and now im kinda interested in it.
What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
Im a poweuser im doing
-LOTS OF MANGA READING
-Lots of news reading
-Listen to a lot of music
-And i often like flashing new roms and mods
-Using it very often so battery is important too but if i can switch it i will buy 1 extra battery
whats not important
-camera
-waterproof (i dont need it)
thanks and regards your
RainbowSix
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Now we have BUMP, so very soon LG G3 will be a monster.
If i was you i will not ask that question, just do it.
well my two last device was from sony the xperia z and the mighty z ultra so i don't have the z3 but i knew sony device.
well we can start fron the material a sony is much better
we can go on with stock interface and sony is a lot better
but for all the rest the g3 is a beast
now with the new rom/mod, i use Androidhd 1.6 the 2 major issue of the g3 are solved.
the issue are the battery drain, well is not a powersaver device but with it's fantastic 2k display it's impossible to do better, i'm not an intense user bur from i buy the g3 stock to now with the new 1.6 android hd rom the battery last for me the double and for me is enought to have a nearly 2 days device but this depend to many personal use.
the second issue was the microlag/refresh of the lg stock luncher, well i use apex now not stock but also in stock this issue is gone.
the camera is a good quality smartphone camera, fast as hell in focus and with the right photo app, i use lg xcam, it's a good everyday camera.
the display is fanatstic, when play 2k or 4k video give very rich detail and a great deepness, seems nearly a 3d, you see the different position of the subject as in real life.
the audio quality is good and with viper become very good.
i use the quickcircle case and for me is great idea, you can answer a call, read text message, shoot a photo without opening the case and do more.
i use also the g watch and for me i great duo.
i forget an other isssue that some people report, the signal reception, well for me is not an issue , yes if you look the signal bar it gos from minum to max very often but i haven't had no signal lost or lost call.
so in the end is the best smartphone in value for money and it has the better screen i ever see and when the developer will have the possibility to have some bump image this g3 will be a masterpiece foe a long time
I'd keep z3. I havent yet tested one,but from what ive read:
Better battery
More ram (depending on version of g3).
Better performance
Basically its better and newer device. The big plus of g3 is its screen to size ratio. The biggest downsize for me is QHD. It ruins the experience. To summarize... We should swap!
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What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
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Well, that's interesting because many bash G3 to the point that it is not up to par with XZ3. They say it is worse than Z3 in battery life and interactive performance.
I would suggest to fast forward browse topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772242 and seek for Xperia Z3 people's comparisons. Than borrow or buy somewhere G3, flash latest ROM, compare with your Z3 and tell us which phone you'll keep and which you return.
luca73n said:
well my two last device was from sony the xperia z and the mighty z ultra so i don't have the z3 but i knew sony device.
well we can start fron the material a sony is much better
we can go on with stock interface and sony is a lot better
but for all the rest the g3 is a beast
now with the new rom/mod, i use Androidhd 1.6 the 2 major issue of the g3 are solved.
the issue are the battery drain, well is not a powersaver device but with it's fantastic 2k display it's impossible to do better, i'm not an intense user bur from i buy the g3 stock to now with the new 1.6 android hd rom the battery last for me the double and for me is enought to have a nearly 2 days device but this depend to many personal use.
the second issue was the microlag/refresh of the lg stock luncher, well i use apex now not stock but also in stock this issue is gone.
the camera is a good quality smartphone camera, fast as hell in focus and with the right photo app, i use lg xcam, it's a good everyday camera.
the display is fanatstic, when play 2k or 4k video give very rich detail and a great deepness, seems nearly a 3d, you see the different position of the subject as in real life.
the audio quality is good and with viper become very good.
i use the quickcircle case and for me is great idea, you can answer a call, read text message, shoot a photo without opening the case and do more.
i use also the g watch and for me i great duo.
i forget an other isssue that some people report, the signal reception, well for me is not an issue , yes if you look the signal bar it gos from minum to max very often but i haven't had no signal lost or lost call.
so in the end is the best smartphone in value for money and it has the better screen i ever see and when the developer will have the possibility to have some bump image this g3 will be a masterpiece foe a long time
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Thanks for the big answer
I hate using cases and i dont use one on my Z3 either if it breaks i dont have a problem because i have something called advanced warranty (doesnt matter what i do with it will be repaired for free and all that just for 5 € per month)
foxracer89 said:
I'd keep z3. I havent yet tested one,but from what ive read:
Better battery
More ram (depending on version of g3).
Better performance
Basically its better and newer device. The big plus of g3 is its screen to size ratio. The biggest downsize for me is QHD. It ruins the experience. To summarize... We should swap!
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Screen to Size Ratio is something that i like about the G3
We should swap ? were are you from ?
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Well, that's interesting because many bash G3 to the point that it is not up to par with XZ3. They say it is worse than Z3 in battery life and interactive performance.
I would suggest to fast forward browse topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772242 and seek for Xperia Z3 people's comparisons. Than borrow or buy somewhere G3, flash latest ROM, compare with your Z3 and tell us which phone you'll keep and which you return.
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I heard the battery life from the G3 is now close to the one from Z2/Z3 ?
If it lasts a day its okay for me
How is the handling of the phone without a case ?
The problem with the Z3, its really SLIPPERY like with a cable connect it fell from my table after some minutes i didnt even notice it till it made big bump noise
thx for all the answers
I got the LG G3 32 GB Titan Grey now
I wold have kept the Z3 for the simple reason it's newer and it would technically get more support if you wished to keep it for longer.
What's your opinion on the g3?
I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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Yo man lol sold my e980 for this d850 .... You running one ? Which variant ...
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LG-D850 AT&T model...
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Nice :thumbup:
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rainbowsixpro1 said:
Screen to Size Ratio is something that i like about the G3
We should swap ? were are you from ?
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I'm from Poland, so close, but still troublesome. I can go through the hassle if you are up for it too.
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I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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9000 lol
America and Germany is quite distance haha
Will D855 even work in USA ?
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Nice :thumbup:
2SHAYNEZ
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YES.
foxracer89 said:
I'm from Poland, so close, but still troublesome. I can go through the hassle if you are up for it too.
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That would be too much trouble...
I found a guy like in the next city he gave me LG G3, Wireless LG Thing to Charge, Circle Case with QI and everything sealed so only phone reset and good to go
with warranty !!!!
Too late, but thanks
Had the Z3 for a couple weeks and swapped it for an LG G3...a few things I noticed...
Z3 has awesome battery...I could
go 2 nights without charging and still by the 3rd day I was on 30% with moderate usage.
Z3 build quality is a lot better...fit and form top class...and the screen is really nice, especially outdoors
Z3 interface is FAST. Butter smooth. G3 is a little bit laggy and I noticed it more coming from a Z3 but doesn't really bother me now.
Z3 cons - I didn't like the long shape and top bottom bezels...way too big...speakers are a bit quiet too but it is stereo and front facing.
Z3 - there was (and currently still is) no supported root for it without loosing your DRM keys. Without the DRM keys your low light camera performance is terrible. Not worth it for me.
Z3 is a lot more pricier... Although waterproof I found it more annoying - as the flaps to charge via micro usb, you have to keep doing/undoing.
LG G3
A lot easier to MOD/root/update (currently). I like the size a lot better, more natural shape. Fits better in hand.
With some tweaking LG battery not *too* bad though, and you get the spare battery swap out option. I might be able to push 2 days with the G3.
Screen quality not as good as the Z3 (esp. outdoors), but still decent...I love the thin bezels and design of the G3.
Honestly I can't really notice the QHD resolution difference but I notice more the bigger sized screen with better ratio.
G3 is a fair cheaper for IMO as good a handset (as good as with different positives and negatives compared to Z3)
colche said:
Had the Z3 for a couple weeks and swapped it for an LG G3...a few things I noticed...
Z3 has awesome battery...I could go 2 nights without charging and still by the 3rd day I was on 30% with moderate usage.
Z3 build quality is a lot better...fit and form top class...and the screen is really nice, especially outdoors
Z3 interface is FAST. Butter smooth. G3 is a little bit laggy and I noticed it more coming from a Z3 but doesn't really bother me now.
Z3 cons - I didn't like the long shape and top bottom bezels...way too big...speakers are a bit quiet too but it is stereo and front facing.
Z3 - there was (and currently still is) no supported root for it without loosing your DRM keys. Without the DRM keys your low light camera performance is terrible. Not worth it for me.
Z3 is a lot more pricier... Although waterproof I found it more annoying - as the flaps to charge via micro usb, you have to keep doing/undoing.
LG G3
A lot easier to MOD/root/update (currently). I like the size a lot better, more natural shape. Fits better in hand.
With some tweaking LG battery *too* bad though, and you get the spare battery swap out option. I might be able to push 2 days with the G3.
Screen quality not as good as the Z3 (esp. outdoors), but still decent...I love the thin bezels and design of the G3.
Honestly I can't really notice the QHD resolution difference but I notice more the bigger sized screen with better ratio.
G3 is a fair cheaper for IMO as good a handset (as good as with different positives and negatives compared to Z3)
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Your just right about EVERY fckn point here !
I had a magnetic cable for Z3 so no problem opening the flap
and screen is not as bright on the Z3 but still okay to use...
G3 Lags but next updates will help
BUT i have reception problems with G3 is there an update/fix for that ? im on L FW
I had the same dilemma, especially considering how much cheaper the G3 is right now. Honestly though, I know they improved the UI on the G3 but on my LG 8.3 pad it is just a cluttered mess.
Anyone here came from Sony Z3?
Was it worthy?
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Csetoue said:
Anyone here came from Sony Z3?
Was it worthy?
Thanks
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Came from Z3 compact, and, yes, more than worth it. Great phone the G4.
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Came from Z3 compact, and, yes, more than worth it. Great phone the G4.
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Why? Everything is better? Is it smoother? What about battery life? Thanks
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Why? Everything is better? Is it smoother? What about battery life? Thanks
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Smoother, better screen, battery life similar in my usage situation (plus battery is swappable), much, much better camera (auto and manual).
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Coming from Z3 to G4 from 3 weeks
Z3 with international firmware:
- Screen is less bright (less nits) than Z3 and it is difficult to read text under sunlight
- Audio is louder than dual channel in Z3
- Battery is very weak, it is the phone that lasts me less than other I had (Z3 and Note 4 were beasts in battery life)
- Camera is very very good, much better than Z3 BUT photos are oversharpened and there's not a good timeshift or timelapse
- Ergonomy is very good, Z3 was more little to handle but G4 wins
- Smoothness is better in G4 than Z3 but both are slower than other phones I tried (1+1, Nexus 5, Xiaomi Mi4, HTC M8 (the best))
Change from Z3 to G4 if you would take better photos and listen to music in the bathroom (where sound power is the best feature you need).
I used the Z3 (D6603) previously. "Is it worth it" is a bit subjective, but here's my two cents anyway.
I much prefer the look and feel of the Z3 to the G4. The Z3 is a very attractive device, and the build feels very solid in your hands. The G4 feels like any other plastic device you've ever held. If you've played with a Samsung device prior to the GS6, then you know how the G4 feels. The leather back helps a bit, but it still doesn't make me feel like I'm holding $500 in my hand.
I like the camera, and I find that the camera is better than the Z3. There are far more options in manual mode, and the Auto mode doesn't take shots that look like they were from a 2010 flip phone, like the Z3. If you aren't using Manual Mode on the Z3, you are pretty much guaranteeing a terrible picture. The G4 offers a lot more in the way of lighting adjustments, exposure settings, and balancing options. There's also RAW support too, if you're into that.
Software wise, LG's skin is pretty ugly, and I wish they would just stop. Sony did a pretty good job of keeping things reasonable and attractive with their skin. Neither one is a lightweight skin, and there are heavy modifications to the Android framework on either side. This mostly affects root and Xposed options in regards to what works and what doesn't.
In terms of performance, I'd say the G4 is in the lead, but this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but the G4 is clearly a faster device. I prefer the thermal management on the G4 over the Z3, which heats up to uncomfortable levels when under pressure. I like that I can record more than 5 minutes of 4K video with the G4 without the camera app shutting down. I do miss the waterproofing of the Z3, and I actually brought my Z3 with me on a trip recently where I knew there would be splashing. I would have needed to keep the G4 in a plastic bag or something.
The battery life on the G4 is pathetic compared to the Z3. I was getting over 5 hours of screen time with no issues on the Z3, and I'd put it on the charger at night with 40% or so left. The G4 struggles to make it through the day with a full charge and 2-3 hours screen time. This isn't really bad battery life. It's more like average, but I was spoiled with the Z3. Having a spare battery to swap into the G4 is handy to fix this, though I'd rather that I didn't have to.
Overall, I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm elated over the change, but it's a situation where you win some and you lose some. My opinion is "meh".
I came from z3 international.
Camera is a big plus. However the battery life is really not as good as the Z3, also Z3 software is closer to stock.
G4 feels better in the hand though - so I actually like it a fair bit more than my z3.
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Anyone here came from Sony Z3?
Was it worthy?
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From dual sim Z3, worthy yes in terms of battery life and screen on time but nothing else... Lg g4 is an upgrade in everything except for the battery section.
Still I prefer having a removable battery so it works for me ?
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i just saw this phone on amazon.com for 212$, and looking this specs (snap 820 & 4gb ram) its a deal! but i wanna know about the materials and build quality. the phone feels cheap ? ( i know that for 211 i can't expect much but coming from a nexus 5..) the back is glass or plastic?
another thing , i read that the phone always come with modded roms (not stock zui) so i wanna know if indian stock comes with google play services?
Lfcamara said:
i just saw this phone on amazon.com for 212$, and looking this specs (snap 820 & 4gb ram) its a deal! but i wanna know about the materials and build quality. the phone feels cheap ? ( i know that for 211 i can't expect much but coming from a nexus 5..) the back is glass or plastic?
another thing , i read that the phone always come with modded roms (not stock zui) so i wanna know if indian stock comes with google play services?
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Build quality is good, but I think glass back is fragile and attracts fingerprints and scratches and maybe will break if falls from a good height
Indian Stock comes with Play services
Lfcamara said:
i just saw this phone on amazon.com for 212$, and looking this specs (snap 820 & 4gb ram) its a deal! but i wanna know about the materials and build quality. the phone feels cheap ? ( i know that for 211 i can't expect much but coming from a nexus 5..) the back is glass or plastic?
another thing , i read that the phone always come with modded roms (not stock zui) so i wanna know if indian stock comes with google play services?
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I used to own a Nexus 5 and the Zuk Z2 reminds me of it in many ways - great value, fast performance and a sizable custom rom community so that you can always flash something different. Build quality is pretty good (though I do prefer the soft touch back of the Nexus 5 to the slippery glass back of the Z2), camera isn't better but the battery life is a big, big improvement. I loved my N5 and am very happy with the Z2.
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I used to own a Nexus 5 and the Zuk Z2 reminds me of it in many ways - great value, fast performance and a sizable custom rom community so that you can always flash something different. Build quality is pretty good (though I do prefer the soft touch back of the Nexus 5 to the slippery glass back of the Z2), camera isn't better but the battery life is a big, big improvement. I loved my N5 and am very happy with the Z2.
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is really the back of the zuk z2 made from glass? , N5 is a great phone, mine runs pretty well but has some issues ( has been my main phone since its release and i'm a heavy user )
i really looking for a cheap phone because in my country there are many thieves in the street (Venezuela is right at brink of a civil war)
how about the camera ? you said that isn't better , but N5 always had a "meh" camera
Lfcamara said:
is really the back of the zuk z2 made from glass? , N5 is a great phone, mine runs pretty well but has some issues ( has been my main phone since its release and i'm a heavy user )
how about the camera ? you said that isn't better , but N5 always had a "meh" camera
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The back really is glass, so I've put a case on and don't have any real issues. The z2 camera is also "meh" - probably pretty much the same as the Nexus 5 except that it does capture more detail due to the higher megapixel count. It's not too bad in good light, but struggles in low light. If you're not looking for an upgrade over the Nexus camera, you should be happy.
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The back really is glass, so I've put a case on and don't have any real issues. The z2 camera is also "meh" - probably pretty much the same as the Nexus 5 except that it does capture more detail due to the higher megapixel count. It's not too bad in good light, but struggles in low light. If you're not looking for an upgrade over the Nexus camera, you should be happy.
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well i use the camera mainly for college task (taking photos of a documents, blackboard or such) and it's very rare when i use it for something else (well birthdays, events and such but you get the point). i think i will buy this one, seems pretty powerful with that snapdragon 820 and 4 gigs of ram. i hope it really last as long as my N5
Good luck! My only parting comment is that you probably need to be comfortable with flashing a custom ROM, because the stock versions are very different from a Nexus experience. It's not difficult to do, though, and you'll be able to end up with a phone that looks and feels very much like your Nexus - just one whose battery lasts a whole lot longer!