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From Z2 to G3 worth it?

Got the sony z2 right now is it worth it to switch to G3? All I care for is instagram, camera, battery life that's it. Thanks please share
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sofia-captivate said:
Got the sony z2 right now is it worth it to switch to G3? All I care for is instagram, camera, battery life that's it. Thanks please share
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If it's just about that, stick with the z2, the camera of the g3 is pretty nice, but the one of the z2 is as well, they just have different strong and weak points there. Battery life is better on the z2, out of the box, i guess, because the qhd display at the g3 draws more juice, but, well, except if you are willing to swap batteries, than the point goes to the g3.
If you're happy with the z2, stick with it, if not, swap it, but be aware, it's not an upgrade, but a switch, both phones are decent and have their up and downsides.

I switched from the Z2 to the G3.
The camera works a lot faster, and shots sharper photos.
About the battery endurance, I can´t talk lot about, because my G3 is toooo new.
But actually it seems to be better.
The Display is blazing sharp and amazing!
No competition for the G3....

BigBSES said:
But actually it seems to be better
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That is impossible.

toncij said:
That is impossible.
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Your argument seems nearly legit...
But maybe its a little bit squishy.....
My g3 holds nearly two and a half day.
My z2 max 2 days. so lg does something better with energy handling.
And I use exactly the same apps on both phones. nothing except the phones is different

Camera is slightly better on the z2, when it comes to battery you get 1 day + 4-5h SOT on the G3 while on the Z2 you get 1 day + 5-6.5h SOT, I'd say stay with the Z2

Did the switch and never regretted. g3 is so much better.

I gave up on the Z2. I was on my 4th phone (all with defects) and the IPS lcd screen was pretty poor IMO.
The G3 is a brilliant phone, albeit there is probably more lag than the Z2, but I forgive it because the screen is way better, and the cam takes instant pics which are way better in low light.

i switched from a Z2 and in my opinion both phones are super great!! however few things i didn't like about the Z2 was that feeling that ill drop it and break the glass on either side. This fear was always present in my mind when handling the phone.
On the brighter side, the battery of the Z2 was amazing hands down. I am not talking about the tests posted on various websites etc, this is only MY opinion. I am a heavy user and play a lot of games on the phone, constantly checking for messages, FB, pulse etc. The Z2 would last me easily a day with some juice left.
For the G3, the screen is superb and the size of the phone ratio to the screen is a plus. The phone doesnt feel cheap and in my opinion is less slippery than the Z2. In other advantages i think removable battery is always a plus IF you keep a spare on you. I have used the phone for 4 days now and i must say the battery didnt impress me. Its just OK nothing more ill add to that.
Both phones are good imo, if you want to have a future proof phone then i guess G3 is a safer bet specially the 855 with 32gb and 3GB ram keeps you at par with the current offerings.

Had a Z2, and could never eek out more than 5 hours of SOT. I can easily grind out 5.5-6 and over doing the same things on the G3. It's a pretty fantastic phone. I'm not quite sure, but I believe it still has GRAM that the G2 had, and that helps it with battery life.
I'm a super heavy user, and the Z2 just didn't cut it for me.

TheAfroGuy said:
Had a Z2, and could never eek out more than 5 hours of SOT. I can easily grind out 5.5-6 and over doing the same things on the G3. It's a pretty fantastic phone. I'm not quite sure, but I believe it still has GRAM that the G2 had, and that helps it with battery life.
I'm a super heavy user, and the Z2 just didn't cut it for me.
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Where is your G3 from if you don't mind me asking? Like tmobile? Or unlock international version? Thanks
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sofia-captivate said:
Where is your G3 from if you don't mind me asking? Like tmobile? Or unlock international version? Thanks
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I have an AT&T D850. It's white (I'm not sure, but the white ones seem to have less problems. Just a conspiracy ?)

Had the Z2 and loved so many things on the phone which made the switch to the G3 difficult at first.
Z2
Pros:
Battery
Waterproof
Dedicated Camera Button
Cons:
Awkward to hold
All glass looks nice but drop the phone at your peril.
Awkward SIM Card Slot.
No replaceable battery
G3
Pros:
Screen oh that screen
Feels great to hold in the hand
Unique software configuration ~ Design your own button layout, other custom changes and Easy Home that actually works.
Brilliant Auto camera ~ Never thought I would be happy using an Auto setting.
Superb use of Quick Circle implementation.
Cons:
Camera software has no manual controls, you have to download and use additional software.
I'm sure I could find many other reasons to like both phones but whilst great tools are a winning factor it's how the device feels in the hand which will always be your first and last impression. Here the G3 wins absolutely hands down against the Z2.

TheAfroGuy said:
I have an AT&T D850. It's white (I'm not sure, but the white ones seem to have less problems. Just a conspiracy ?)
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I ended up ordering a Black one from Amazon and received a White one. With all the people having issues with shutdowns, overheating, etc. I just kept the White one since it's performing beautifully.

Z2 has issues with sound quality and voice quality. If you truly only care for the things you've listed then stick to the Z2. But things such as weight, voice quality, etc. may matter later on, so you'll never know.
I'm coming from a Z1. Quite possibly the most aesthetically pleasing phone but was paired with horrible software support and issues that could not be easily fixed because of rooting issues.
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BigBSES said:
Your argument seems nearly legit...
But maybe its a little bit squishy.....
My g3 holds nearly two and a half day.
My z2 max 2 days. so lg does something better with energy handling.
And I use exactly the same apps on both phones. nothing except the phones is different
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Impossibru!
Please check attached picture? SIM free run, 60% brightness and full WiFi.
The 7 hour picture is from video streaming and gaming plus social networks...
I don't understand how you get hours similar to G3? You probably run a very bad signal on you networks and that drains your devices...
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sofia-captivate said:
Got the sony z2 right now is it worth it to switch to G3? All I care for is instagram, camera, battery life that's it. Thanks please share
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No point of switching from z2. It has everything good camera good battery only resolution and laser focusing is what g3 has over z2. Not a big deal
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Enddo said:
I ended up ordering a Black one from Amazon and received a White one. With all the people having issues with shutdowns, overheating, etc. I just kept the White one since it's performing beautifully.
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Yes I ended up with the white one as well. I've never had any restarts or any problems out of the phone. Everything works great!
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htc fan89 said:
No point of switching from z2. It has everything good camera good battery only resolution and laser focusing is what g3 has over z2. Not a big deal
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Do you really think it is not worth it? Here are the reasons why you should upgrade. Let me break it down for you
-true hd lcd 144x2560 5'5inch 2.5k display
-32gb internal and 3gb of ram
-1 watt speaker
-removeable battery
-2.5ghz
-ir blaster
-better battery
-better camera
-and probably more things that I forgot

F4M0U569 said:
-better battery
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Better what?
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[Q] Z3 User interested on a LG G3

Hey xda
I have a Xperia Z3 Black (1 Week old)
And i saw the LG G3 in a review and now im kinda interested in it.
What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
Im a poweuser im doing
-LOTS OF MANGA READING
-Lots of news reading
-Listen to a lot of music
-And i often like flashing new roms and mods
-Using it very often so battery is important too but if i can switch it i will buy 1 extra battery
whats not important
-camera
-waterproof (i dont need it)
thanks and regards your
RainbowSix

rainbowsixpro1 said:
Hey xda
I have a Xperia Z3 Black (1 Week old)
And i saw the LG G3 in a review and now im kinda interested in it.
What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
Im a poweuser im doing
-LOTS OF MANGA READING
-Lots of news reading
-Listen to a lot of music
-And i often like flashing new roms and mods
-Using it very often so battery is important too but if i can switch it i will buy 1 extra battery
whats not important
-camera
-waterproof (i dont need it)
thanks and regards your
RainbowSix
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Now we have BUMP, so very soon LG G3 will be a monster.
If i was you i will not ask that question, just do it.

well my two last device was from sony the xperia z and the mighty z ultra so i don't have the z3 but i knew sony device.
well we can start fron the material a sony is much better
we can go on with stock interface and sony is a lot better
but for all the rest the g3 is a beast
now with the new rom/mod, i use Androidhd 1.6 the 2 major issue of the g3 are solved.
the issue are the battery drain, well is not a powersaver device but with it's fantastic 2k display it's impossible to do better, i'm not an intense user bur from i buy the g3 stock to now with the new 1.6 android hd rom the battery last for me the double and for me is enought to have a nearly 2 days device but this depend to many personal use.
the second issue was the microlag/refresh of the lg stock luncher, well i use apex now not stock but also in stock this issue is gone.
the camera is a good quality smartphone camera, fast as hell in focus and with the right photo app, i use lg xcam, it's a good everyday camera.
the display is fanatstic, when play 2k or 4k video give very rich detail and a great deepness, seems nearly a 3d, you see the different position of the subject as in real life.
the audio quality is good and with viper become very good.
i use the quickcircle case and for me is great idea, you can answer a call, read text message, shoot a photo without opening the case and do more.
i use also the g watch and for me i great duo.
i forget an other isssue that some people report, the signal reception, well for me is not an issue , yes if you look the signal bar it gos from minum to max very often but i haven't had no signal lost or lost call.
so in the end is the best smartphone in value for money and it has the better screen i ever see and when the developer will have the possibility to have some bump image this g3 will be a masterpiece foe a long time

I'd keep z3. I havent yet tested one,but from what ive read:
Better battery
More ram (depending on version of g3).
Better performance
Basically its better and newer device. The big plus of g3 is its screen to size ratio. The biggest downsize for me is QHD. It ruins the experience. To summarize... We should swap!

rainbowsixpro1 said:
What do you think ?
Should i switch ?
What are the Cons so far from your aspect ?
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Well, that's interesting because many bash G3 to the point that it is not up to par with XZ3. They say it is worse than Z3 in battery life and interactive performance.
I would suggest to fast forward browse topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772242 and seek for Xperia Z3 people's comparisons. Than borrow or buy somewhere G3, flash latest ROM, compare with your Z3 and tell us which phone you'll keep and which you return.

luca73n said:
well my two last device was from sony the xperia z and the mighty z ultra so i don't have the z3 but i knew sony device.
well we can start fron the material a sony is much better
we can go on with stock interface and sony is a lot better
but for all the rest the g3 is a beast
now with the new rom/mod, i use Androidhd 1.6 the 2 major issue of the g3 are solved.
the issue are the battery drain, well is not a powersaver device but with it's fantastic 2k display it's impossible to do better, i'm not an intense user bur from i buy the g3 stock to now with the new 1.6 android hd rom the battery last for me the double and for me is enought to have a nearly 2 days device but this depend to many personal use.
the second issue was the microlag/refresh of the lg stock luncher, well i use apex now not stock but also in stock this issue is gone.
the camera is a good quality smartphone camera, fast as hell in focus and with the right photo app, i use lg xcam, it's a good everyday camera.
the display is fanatstic, when play 2k or 4k video give very rich detail and a great deepness, seems nearly a 3d, you see the different position of the subject as in real life.
the audio quality is good and with viper become very good.
i use the quickcircle case and for me is great idea, you can answer a call, read text message, shoot a photo without opening the case and do more.
i use also the g watch and for me i great duo.
i forget an other isssue that some people report, the signal reception, well for me is not an issue , yes if you look the signal bar it gos from minum to max very often but i haven't had no signal lost or lost call.
so in the end is the best smartphone in value for money and it has the better screen i ever see and when the developer will have the possibility to have some bump image this g3 will be a masterpiece foe a long time
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Thanks for the big answer
I hate using cases and i dont use one on my Z3 either if it breaks i dont have a problem because i have something called advanced warranty (doesnt matter what i do with it will be repaired for free and all that just for 5 € per month)
foxracer89 said:
I'd keep z3. I havent yet tested one,but from what ive read:
Better battery
More ram (depending on version of g3).
Better performance
Basically its better and newer device. The big plus of g3 is its screen to size ratio. The biggest downsize for me is QHD. It ruins the experience. To summarize... We should swap!
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Screen to Size Ratio is something that i like about the G3
We should swap ? were are you from ?
Billy Madison said:
Well, that's interesting because many bash G3 to the point that it is not up to par with XZ3. They say it is worse than Z3 in battery life and interactive performance.
I would suggest to fast forward browse topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772242 and seek for Xperia Z3 people's comparisons. Than borrow or buy somewhere G3, flash latest ROM, compare with your Z3 and tell us which phone you'll keep and which you return.
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I heard the battery life from the G3 is now close to the one from Z2/Z3 ?
If it lasts a day its okay for me
How is the handling of the phone without a case ?
The problem with the Z3, its really SLIPPERY like with a cable connect it fell from my table after some minutes i didnt even notice it till it made big bump noise
thx for all the answers

I got the LG G3 32 GB Titan Grey now

I wold have kept the Z3 for the simple reason it's newer and it would technically get more support if you wished to keep it for longer.

What's your opinion on the g3?

I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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esimon311 said:
I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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Yo man lol sold my e980 for this d850 .... You running one ? Which variant ...
2SHAYNEZ

LG-D850 AT&T model...
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Nice :thumbup:
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rainbowsixpro1 said:
Screen to Size Ratio is something that i like about the G3
We should swap ? were are you from ?
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I'm from Poland, so close, but still troublesome. I can go through the hassle if you are up for it too.

esimon311 said:
I wish we lived near each other. Because I'm interested in the Z3. I'd swap with ya so we both could test drive each other's devices...
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9000 lol
America and Germany is quite distance haha
Will D855 even work in USA ?
shayneflashindaily said:
Nice :thumbup:
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YES.
foxracer89 said:
I'm from Poland, so close, but still troublesome. I can go through the hassle if you are up for it too.
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That would be too much trouble...
I found a guy like in the next city he gave me LG G3, Wireless LG Thing to Charge, Circle Case with QI and everything sealed so only phone reset and good to go
with warranty !!!!
Too late, but thanks

Had the Z3 for a couple weeks and swapped it for an LG G3...a few things I noticed...
Z3 has awesome battery...I could
go 2 nights without charging and still by the 3rd day I was on 30% with moderate usage.
Z3 build quality is a lot better...fit and form top class...and the screen is really nice, especially outdoors
Z3 interface is FAST. Butter smooth. G3 is a little bit laggy and I noticed it more coming from a Z3 but doesn't really bother me now.
Z3 cons - I didn't like the long shape and top bottom bezels...way too big...speakers are a bit quiet too but it is stereo and front facing.
Z3 - there was (and currently still is) no supported root for it without loosing your DRM keys. Without the DRM keys your low light camera performance is terrible. Not worth it for me.
Z3 is a lot more pricier... Although waterproof I found it more annoying - as the flaps to charge via micro usb, you have to keep doing/undoing.
LG G3
A lot easier to MOD/root/update (currently). I like the size a lot better, more natural shape. Fits better in hand.
With some tweaking LG battery not *too* bad though, and you get the spare battery swap out option. I might be able to push 2 days with the G3.
Screen quality not as good as the Z3 (esp. outdoors), but still decent...I love the thin bezels and design of the G3.
Honestly I can't really notice the QHD resolution difference but I notice more the bigger sized screen with better ratio.
G3 is a fair cheaper for IMO as good a handset (as good as with different positives and negatives compared to Z3)

colche said:
Had the Z3 for a couple weeks and swapped it for an LG G3...a few things I noticed...
Z3 has awesome battery...I could go 2 nights without charging and still by the 3rd day I was on 30% with moderate usage.
Z3 build quality is a lot better...fit and form top class...and the screen is really nice, especially outdoors
Z3 interface is FAST. Butter smooth. G3 is a little bit laggy and I noticed it more coming from a Z3 but doesn't really bother me now.
Z3 cons - I didn't like the long shape and top bottom bezels...way too big...speakers are a bit quiet too but it is stereo and front facing.
Z3 - there was (and currently still is) no supported root for it without loosing your DRM keys. Without the DRM keys your low light camera performance is terrible. Not worth it for me.
Z3 is a lot more pricier... Although waterproof I found it more annoying - as the flaps to charge via micro usb, you have to keep doing/undoing.
LG G3
A lot easier to MOD/root/update (currently). I like the size a lot better, more natural shape. Fits better in hand.
With some tweaking LG battery *too* bad though, and you get the spare battery swap out option. I might be able to push 2 days with the G3.
Screen quality not as good as the Z3 (esp. outdoors), but still decent...I love the thin bezels and design of the G3.
Honestly I can't really notice the QHD resolution difference but I notice more the bigger sized screen with better ratio.
G3 is a fair cheaper for IMO as good a handset (as good as with different positives and negatives compared to Z3)
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Your just right about EVERY fckn point here !
I had a magnetic cable for Z3 so no problem opening the flap
and screen is not as bright on the Z3 but still okay to use...
G3 Lags but next updates will help
BUT i have reception problems with G3 is there an update/fix for that ? im on L FW

I had the same dilemma, especially considering how much cheaper the G3 is right now. Honestly though, I know they improved the UI on the G3 but on my LG 8.3 pad it is just a cluttered mess.

Xperia ZL and LG G4

For anyone else wondering. G4 is a nice upgrade over the ZL. Pretty much better in every way. Very little smudging on the G4 display; for those who have removed the ZL screen protector know how bad the display is with smudges. G4 display has noticeably better brightness and viewing angles. Camera is really nice, focus/detail is pretty good as a 2 year newer phone should. Quick charge and removable battery is a big plus. The ZL was my first phone with a sealed battery and always bothered me as it could fail at anytime or develop horrible life on a single charge (lucky for me the battery was never an issue). Double tap to wake and sleep is a great feature as well.
The ZL is a great phone. I will miss the dedicated camera button, the cool LED notification light (plain ole circle LED on the G4), Charge port location (though this is just preference), and the overall smaller form factor. I did change my LG G4 ringtone to the ZL Xperia ringtone... Nothing the G4 has sounded as good.
One feature I like the most on the G4 is the Smart Unlock. When I'm home (trusted location), the phone stays unlocked, but can be forced to lock also. When I leave my house it automatically switched back to my regular locking mode (locks automatically when screen sleeps). Not sure if this is an Android 5.1 feature or a LG feature, but great feature none the less. There are a couple of third party apps that does this, but I never trusted those.
Overall I'm pretty with the upgrade. If anyone is thinking about switching to the G4 its great is you can live with the bigger size. Took a not so great picture of the G4 and ZL together, attached. G4 has a Spigen Hybrid case, and the ZL has a Incipio Dual Pro Case. Getting an Incipio Dual Pro for the G4, much better design for impact like the ZL case

really? man, ZL is a 2013 model, G4 is the newest smartphone for LG
how could we compare these smartphones?
you shold compare G4 x Z4, than it would be wise
but ZL still a good smartphone

H4NC0OCK said:
really? man, ZL is a 2013 model, G4 is the newest smartphone for LG
how could we compare these smartphones?
you shold compare G4 x Z4, than it would be wise
but ZL still a good smartphone
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agree with you, Xperia ZL still a good smartphone until now..
one thing it's impressed me is how a two years old phone can perform awesomely in performance ( start from Android 4.3, phone work so smooth and become smoother in Android 5 )
as a proof, i still kept my Xperia ZL although i already moved to LG G4... (urgghhh.. not G4, it got stolen by some pickpockets! i can't forgive those a**hole).. i'll moved to LG G3 now..

i recently had to upgrade from the zl, and it was between the g4 and z5. ended up with a z5 mainly because of the sony UI. the 3 things that really bothered me on the G4 was the UI, the slight curved shape, and the unnecessary qhd resolution. but these were almost offset by the really nice design (thin borders and leather battery cover), and excellent camera app.
but damn. nothing beats the zl. it's perfect in every way minus the limited capability of the camera. damn phone still works perfectly except for the GPS, which was why i had to get a new phone :/.

Try Cyanogenmod 12.1 and soon enough, u will know what's the real definition of buttery smooth.
Though the things i dont like about the ZL are horrible battery life and my main microphone is broken
Still using ZL as my daily driver cuz couldnt effort those awesomer out there LOL

Thoughts and opinions on Sony Xperia Z5 Premium

Hello,
Im considering buying the new Sony phone. Any thoughts on it? Is it worth buying over other premium/flagship phones?

I plan on buying it as ive found the best phones for my self to have are Nexus, LG or sony
I find that its a worthy upgrade to my Z2 and has that typical sony quality, although i had some problems with my Z2 its still an awesome device and i'd be happy to take a Z5 Premium over a LG V10 (my alternative choice)
Benefits over most phones:
4K Screen
Typically decent battery life
Decent camera (i dont care about megapixels)
Nice design and shape
(not sure about fingerprint sensor)
I REALLY like the demo units ive used

I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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psygnosi said:
I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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How would you compare the V10 and Z5p? Which one is better?

I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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Hi please would you tell me how you find speaker phone of Sony z5 premium ? Also while calling someone.....is it clear and high volume in earphone and speakers volume on songs Rgrds

psygnosi said:
I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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My choice is probably between these two phones and then also waiting for the samsung galaxy s7 or rumored Lg g4 pro. Any thoughts on what would be the better choice?
If you where to choose between the V10 and Z5p what would you choose?

Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
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Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little

riz157 said:
Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
SD Card
Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little
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Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?

Xabuk said:
Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?
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If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!

riz157 said:
If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!
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Any official leaks about the s7?

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Any official leaks about the s7?
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I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.

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I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.
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The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.

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The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.
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That is the biggest dowside.

riz157 said:
That is the biggest dowside.
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Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.

You can easily change the DPI on the phone to full 4k full time without root...it can be done a few different ways...but honestly, wouldn't you prefer using 1080p when just browsing the web and mundane tasks? It automatically uses 4k anytime your using the camera or watching videos...what else could you possibly need 4k for? And remember, if it bothers you, just change the DPI and it can stay 4k permanently
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Xabuk said:
Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.
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You won't see the difference between 2k and 1080p either...its not the resolution that matters...it's the quality of the display panel that matters...there are 2k screens on many phones yet some look sharper and crisper than others...the Sony Z5P has a superior panel that looks fantastic regardless of the resolution... That's what matters.

Hand on heart, this looks sharper at 1080p than the S6 edge at 2k.
At 4k this thing looks amazing
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It does look sharp even with 1080p due to 4k screen, everything seems upscale.
I must say I can't tell the difference between this and other QHD screens.
Other 1080 screens don't look as sharp.

For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....

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For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....
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I've had my z5p since monday. I have not had any issues with battery, call quality, screen, or speakers. I like the z5p a lot, its not as huge of an upgrade over my note 3 that I would have liked. But in all there is nothing wrong with getting the z5p. I suppose a small argument could be made about the 4k screen utilization. I think a lot of people realize that it takes a lot to push 4k and it should not surprise you the phone doesn't do 4k all the time. Be smart with your money, if the price difference between the regular z5 and the z5p is too much, then cool go with what you want.

Still worth buying?

Hi,
I just wonder if you guys would refer to still buy this smartphone in 07/2017...
Also question:
Are there active ROM/Kernel Developers?
I would be happy if anyone could answer, thank you

4r44444 said:
Hi,
I just wonder if you guys would refer to still buy this smartphone in 07/2017...
Also question:
Are there active ROM/Kernel Developers?
I would be happy if anyone could answer, thank you
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Yup it's worth buying if you do less photography in low light, but in the day light you won't see any difference..
Ans yes there are varieties in ROMs

i think it is. it has a bigger battery than the new models.

It is definately still worth buying.
I come from a Sony Xperia Z5 compact and when I compare pictures taken, I am surprised by Moto Z Play camera.................................................when sufficient light
Most of the reviews have mixed feelings about the camera, but I find it to be ok. Some issues with focusing, but you will get used to it.
I also use SnapCamera app as I find this to be very useful with the camera.
In low light, the camera is as bad as Z5 compact
Battery is excellent.
Screen is very good.
Phone respons very good, very fast and reliable.
Fingerprint sensor is brilliant.
Talk volume and sound is very good.
Music volume headphones (Bluetooth) is a bit low but it might as well be my BT headset causing this.
All in all a very good phone and cheap (at least compared to what is on the market here in Norway).

Sure. Bought last week this device for my wife too.
Love this device. It's so much better as our older x play.
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Still one of the best battery phone with good performance and no lags in day to day usage.
Don't know about others but i love this Camera!!
Reviews say that it's good in day light but not so in low light.
You just need to know how to take a good shot.
See this shot taken in lowlight with stock camera.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4j9V686UmfbSlNrd1pvMGFhRUk/view?usp=drivesdk
(Open the link and see, i have uploaded the image in drive)
Cheers!!

Thank you all for your help... I'm at the moment to decide to get this one or the Honor 8... Anybody got both and know which is "better"?

4r44444 said:
I just wonder if you guys would refer to still buy this smartphone in 07/2017...
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I would definitely still have the Z Play on my short list. Had mine since November, and have been extremely happy with it. But if I was shopping today, I'd also give the Moto G5+ a close look. From what I've read, the G5+ has similar hardware to the ZPlay, including a nice fat battery, but the one big thing it is missing is the Moto Mods. I honestly don't use Moto Mods much at all (I have a battery mod, but rarely use it.) And the G5 is $100 cheaper (at current Amazon prices for 64GB G5). Both of these phones would be an excellent choice. Happy shopping!

The Moto Z Play... I went to the shop yesterday ready to buy it. I've been reading every review, every video, so I have a good idea of what to expect. Well, the phone is on one of those stands, inside a store, with what I consider OK visibility and I decided to take a few photos while the phone is on the stand as it provides very good stability. Let just say that the word APPALLED comes to mind. My opinion of the photos I took:
Positives:
- Good color reproduction
- Good dynamic range (from what is shown in the phone screen)
- Blazing fast
- Awesome photo app in terms of the GUI
Negatives:
- Horrible and I mean 50 Euro camera quality horrible detail capture. It was like a joke, I could not believe my eyes. I focused on a 4K TV display maybe 4 meters from where the phone was, and if I wouldn't zoom, the photo was average to OK at best. I took several photos, played with the settings, tried to focus on different things to see if it would make a difference, but no avail. It was that bad. I then took few photos with my Z3 and other than the richness in color, my phone from 2014 blew it out of the water. I was devastated. After so much buying intent and hours upon hours of reviews, the photo quality is as bad as people say it is. I've read that using a different camera app does help, but I would like to see a live comparison.
- The auto-focus is annoying AF. That thing kept trying to focus even though it was on a stand and I've already selected the focus point. I bet this is one of the reasons so many people get bad photos.
Under the light that was there, my Z3 took good photos if a little washed out, but this has been an issue with the Xperia brand and their camera app since they were introduced. The other phones I tried for camera like the Huawei with their Laica camera, were uninspiring. The S8 and the G6 blew everything out of the water, amazing photography. I could't test the P2's camera as someone had done a factory reset and the phone was in the settings out of box mode. The P2 is a beautiful phone.
I decided not to buy the Moto Z Play and wait on how the Moto X4 turns out before jumping ship. I want to mention that I have the original Moto X and that phone across the board (except on battery life and to some degree on camera quality) is exceptional. Also, my Moto X takes better photos than the Moto Z Play. Another thing that turned me down was the size, weight and shape of the Z Play. It is not the most comfortable phone to hold, specially when I had the Lenovo P2 right in front to compare. I really wanted to love this phone because of it's battery life. Plus I love the Moto Android interface. I can only recommend to anyone wanting to buy it to play with it in real life and take a few photos with it and hold it in your hand and decide. If taking photos is not your main thing, then I would consider it, but for me the balance of good to OK photos and the battery life are a must and sadly, the Z Play failed miserably on the camera department.

Do you check the settings? Do u tried the Profimodus (short press on the lower right cam icon)
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Yeah Moto cameras are crap,it's almost a meme now.I don't buy phones for their camera though so I can't really comment.Other than the "appalling" camera there is still a lot to love about the Z play
I guess it comes down to what you want from the phone.

Ebrahim Ali said:
Yeah Moto cameras are crap,it's almost a meme now.I don't buy phones for their camera though so I can't really comment.Other than the "appalling" camera there is still a lot to love about the Z play
I guess it comes down to what you want from the phone.
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I love a lot of what I read and the Moto Android implementation is the best for me aside of a Pixel/Nexus. I will go again with my old Moto X (which still works like charm, it was just not good ever in the battery department) to take some photos again and see if I can ignore that part of the phone. Still, considering that the Moto X4 is around the corner, I may wait. Could be the new Moto X4 will have good enough battery.
I mean, is it too much to ask to have a phone like the Moto X (original) with a camera like the S8 the G6 and a battery like the P2?

It actually kinda is .I would assume to keep costs down manufacturers give and take things