So I have the 10 for about a week now. Awesome phone, but I really dislike the speakers and video camera
Speakers sucks with both boomsoud mods. Hope it's gets better with updates and Audio mods.
Video cam focus is slow and why it's not 60 FPS like my 2 years old iPhone. Common HTC.
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Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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markwebb said:
Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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Maybe you have a dud. That certainly doesn't seem to be the norm.
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So I have the 10 for about a week now. Awesome phone, but I really dislike the speakers and video camera
Speakers sucks with both boomsoud mods. Hope it's gets better with updates and Audio mods.
Video cam focus is slow and why it's not 60 FPS like my 2 years old iPhone. Common HTC.
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I haven't tested a lot of video, but I thought I read the video would be 60 fps at 1080p and 30 at 4k.
For me the biggest drawback so far has been the screen quality. The resolution is nice, but it has this weird shine effect that is bugging me. You can only see it when it's text on white, and it is more pronounced when you tilt slightly, but it is also there when you're looking straight on.
Didn't see it at first but now I can't look without seeing it and it's killing me.
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I haven't tested a lot of video, but I thought I read the video would be 60 fps at 1080p and 30 at 4k.
For me the biggest drawback so far has been the screen quality. The resolution is nice, but it has this weird shine effect that is bugging me. You can only see it when it's text on white, and it is more pronounced when you tilt slightly, but it is also there when you're looking straight on.
Didn't see it at first but now I can't look without seeing it and it's killing me.
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I've noticed a bit of red tint here. Hopefully this can be calibrated by software in the future(like sony). But the viewing angle is pretty average though.
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Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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According to all the reviewers, it is.
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According to all the reviewers, it is.
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According to reviewers Galaxy S6 and S7 are also stutter-free. Main reason I returned my S7 is because it was so laggy. But I guess most people really don't care. Doing a little search on google I only see people who used a nexus phone complaining about stutters on devices like S6, S7, etc.
Btw I did a little test here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66729920&postcount=226
Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Really? Could you do a test with your s7 with the graphical bars option turned on from dev options.
Btw my S7 was indeed very fast, but just stuttery in chrome (with ads blocked) and apps like YouTube.
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Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Are you keeping both the edge and 10?
I noticed that by default Boost+ will "automatically clear memory in the background", which I had disabled since day one. Perhaps it causes stutter?
Boost+ -> Settings -> Smart Boost
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Are you keeping both the edge and 10?
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Probably give up the 10: the edge is the better phone for me and I don't mind not having root believe it or not. It does what I want it to do quite well.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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It's pretty strange more than one people report this problem since my HTC 10 is very smooth in settings(most of time it's 60 fps by looking at GPU profiling). Would you like to upload a screenshot of settings with GPU profiling turned on?
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It's pretty strange more than one people report this problem since my HTC 10 is very smooth in settings(most of time it's 60 fps by looking at GPU profiling). Would you like to upload a screenshot of settings with GPU profiling turned on?
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Could you do similar tests with settings, YouTube, twitter, playstore
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Could you do similar tests with settings, YouTube, twitter, playstore
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This is my result. In settings and youtube, the stutter is less often than yours (it happens), however Play Store is a lagging hell(sometimes worse than the screenshot below).
Not sure if it's a hardware fault or what.
As far as I know htc got their own cpu scheduling implementation, maybe that's the problem.
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I noticed that by default Boost+ will "automatically clear memory in the background", which I had disabled since day one. Perhaps it causes stutter?
Boost+ -> Settings -> Smart Boost
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For what it's worth, my phone came out of the box with Smart Boost disabled.
I played with one today and im not impressed. felt semi slow and i dont like the capacitive buttons. ill keep my nexus 5x and wait to see if and what the htc nexus is all about in the fall.
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This is my result. In settings and youtube, the stutter is less often than yours (it happens), however Play Store is a lagging hell(sometimes worse than the screenshot below).
Not sure if it's a hardware fault or what.
As far as I know htc got their own cpu scheduling implementation, maybe that's the problem.
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Yep it's definitely not stutter free. Once you've used a device where the bars stay below the line, these micro stutters are very noticeable.
I hope custom kernels gonna fix it.
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Yep it's definitely not stutter free. Once you've used a device where the bars stay below the line, these micro stutters are very noticeable.
I hope custom kernels gonna fix it.
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Considering I couldn't find any reason that this phone will perform worse than the competition, with same SoC and same DDR4 memory, the only logical explanation is that htc have a stricter frequency control (persumbly GPU) for a better battery life.
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Hey guys,
I know this may sound like a broken record, but after some pretty extensive use, the lag still exists, and is fairly consistent. I am not Sure if it is just that I am spoiled by my note 2 and its ultra smoothness, but I am testing the crap out of this tablet and in and out of programs back to the home screen and swiping left to right, I am having very consistent lag or stutter. What is everyone elses tablet working like? I only am using 3 screens with minimal widgets and am always monitoring my background running apps and processes. Hands down best tablet I have used just wish it was Smoother
What lag?
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What lag?
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Like lag while swiping screens left to right. Pulling down the notification bar. Opening applications. Etc.
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Like lag while swiping screens left to right. Pulling down the notification bar. Opening applications. Etc.
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I don't get any of that lag. Did you take the OTA updates? they may help.
its not that bad, i bearly even notice the lag.
After installing both OTA updates, doing a factory reset, and rooting, I get no lag whatsoever, except when I wake the device. For some reason, if I haven't used it in a while, when I press the home button, the power button, or pull out the pen, it takes about 3 seconds to wake.
Ridiculous.
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After installing both OTA updates, doing a factory reset, and rooting, I get no lag whatsoever, except when I wake the device. For some reason, if I haven't used it in a while, when I press the home button, the power button, or pull out the pen, it takes about 3 seconds to wake.
Ridiculous.
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Thats weird, Mine powers on within a second
I did both OTA updates, I have not rooted yet. Have you OC yours with STweaks? Or stock
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I did both OTA updates, I have not rooted yet. Have you OC yours with STweaks? Or stock
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Stock. I'm not sure I want to overclock. I don't want to do anything that will drain the battery faster. Are you thinking of OC'ing? And if so, to what?
My region had none of these new updates and I don't have any lag, unless in the crappy Android internet browsers. I use my iPad for that. Also switched to Apex launcher (which has a decent Free version).
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Hey guys,
I know this may sound like a broken record, but after some pretty extensive use, the lag still exists, and is fairly consistent.
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I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
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I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
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I had lag when search index was scanning my SD card for few days. One bad pdf or document may force to do it.
Wow..... just wow lol.
I agree with the OP. This was not supposed to lag, and I have it too. Love the tab, but I didn't have to have it. Now that I do, I won't get rid of because I like it. But it was supposed to be lag free, per say. Rooted and both ota's, hasn't gotten better or worse out of the box. Just has that typical Sammy lag. Slightly disappointed with that.
I've noticed terrible lag in theoldreaer.com. it is worst on chrome but better if I hold it portrait. the marking item read as i scroll kills the tablet. smooth as butter on my exynos 4 gn8. overall this tablet is the best android tablet I've owned but it does have its issues.
also, scrolling long websites take far too long for a device with 3 gigs of RAM to redraw. It should be able to keep the entire page in memory .
Lag...
I don't get an unreasonable amount of lag EXCEPT when opening the floating keyboard in a Web browser. I really like that keyboard for swipe typing with the Spen. Unforgivable? Yes. Definitely.
The thing that irks me more than anything is the ungodly huge notification drawer lagging when you swipe down. Maybe if they designed it like stock Android with two smaller ones it might work better. That drop down should be and is butter on a lot of other devices. I don't get it.
I'm not getting rid of the tablet but I will complain until they fix it in 4 months or however long it takes. Or until somebody makes a sweet TouchWiz ROM.
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I'm not getting rid of the tablet but I will complain until they fix it in 4 months or however long it takes. Or until somebody makes a sweet TouchWiz ROM.
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i feel the same way. it's almost like a marriage, lol. talk crap about it all day, but won't leave.:silly:
GeorgeP said:
I don't have any lag. I'm comparing this to an ipad 2, which this replaced, and a Galaxy S4. This tablet is a tad quicker than the Galaxy S4.
Perhaps you have misbehaving app running in the background?
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Not that I am aware of. At times it is very smooth , others it is catching up to itself, not sure why. I have seen you tube reviews of it acting the same and many people commenting on it,
Try turning off animations in developer option, it always work for my Samsung note 2 & 3.
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I've had m9 for a week now and at first thought it was great but as the week has gone on I've notice the performance of the phone been a bit lacking, so I benchmark the phone, and to my shock the performance was a joke on the benchmarks ( I know benchmarks or not the world)
I all so own Sony xperia z ultra, I all so benchmark it and m9 just beat it, but every day use the Sony seems to wipe the floor with the m9 apart from high graphic games but web browsing and YouTube and opening and multi tasking my Sony wins easily.
Just want to know what people are experiencing with there m9 and do they find the performance the new 64bit falgship from HTC.
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I've had m9 for a week now and at first thought it was great but as the week has gone on I've notice the performance of the phone been a bit lacking, so I benchmark the phone, and to my shock the performance was a joke on the benchmarks ( I know benchmarks or not the world)
I all so own Sony xperia z ultra, I all so benchmark it and m9 just beat it, but every day use the Sony seems to wipe the floor with the m9 apart from high graphic games but web browsing and YouTube and opening and multi tasking my Sony wins easily.
Just want to know what people are experiencing with there m9 and do they find the performance the new 64bit falgship from HTC.
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It's very fast phone and UI is smoothest and fastest I've used coming from an LG UI.
My M9 score over 60927 in AnTuTu so it is really the cheapest and fastest Android phone I've had.
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It's very fast phone and UI is smoothest and fastest I've used coming from an LG UI.
My M9 score over 60927 in AnTuTu so it is really the cheapest and fastest Android phone I've had.
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Iam finding the m9 fast but now and a again theres tiny little lag on the UI and on web browsing the phone has little lag, it's nothing major but for a 2015 64bit flagship phone from HTC maybe I was expecting a little to much, iam even finding my self missing the the m7 which I replaced with the m9.
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Only thing after a while of use now that annoys me with this phone is the battery life. Performance is good enough. Most lag free phone there is.
The HTC Internet app is faster and smoother than chrome so I use that for browsing.
Same issue here. No problems at all until about 2 days ago, and now in some apps (Up, Play Music, Mint) scrolling through lists is not smooth anymore. Sometimes opening the app drawer stutters a bit too. Sometime late in the day yesterday the issue seemed to almost go away, but not all the way. It's driving me crazy.
Totally stock. Guess I'll need to factory reset before I decide something is for sure wrong.
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Only thing after a while of use now that annoys me with this phone is the battery life. Performance is good enough. Most lag free phone there is.
The HTC Internet app is faster and smoother than chrome so I use that for browsing.
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?? The M9 doesn't come with an Internet App. HTC went with Chrome for the M9.
I've got the unlocked model and it's got HTC browser. Download it from market. I disabled Chrome, Big Brother in disguise
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I've got the unlocked model and it's got HTC browser. Download it from market. I disabled Chrome, Big Brother in disguise
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Ah, you downloaded it, that explains how it got there.
The performance does suffer due to throttling as system heats up, which it tends to do when running benchmark.
For example I ran Basemark os II and scored a not very impressive 1116
Then after cooling phone (placed in freezer for a minute)
I run same benchmark and got 1561
Which is quite respectable.
All Android phones I have owned have code that will slow down soc and gpu by dropping clock rate when temps rise.
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I had to do the same and got this.... Once we get a better custom kernel all will be good
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I had to do the same and got this.... Once we get a better custom kernel all will be good
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Which benchmark app are using?
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Antutu
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Antutu
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Iam lucky if my m9 hit 48.000
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Wish we could just remove the thermal
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Ah, you downloaded it, that explains how it got there.
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Mine came with the same browser my m7 had pre-installed on an ATT variant
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Mine came with the same browser my m7 had pre-installed on an ATT variant
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Then AT&T installed it for you. My TMO version does not have it.
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Iam lucky if my m9 hit 48.000
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I ran antutu yesterday on mine. With the power save feature OFF it was around 52000. It was almost exactly 10K less with the power save enabled.
Essentially, it is as fast as the M8 while using power save.
Don't know if you've seen this video. Shows GalaxyS6 vs S6 Edge vs HTC One M9 vs G Flex 2 Antutu Test! He runs it 4 times in a row and the m9 does not throttle. It gets the same score each time. It also finishes first in all 4 tests, but has a lower score the the Samsungs. Just thought I'd share. I have my m9 waiting at home but I won't get there until Monday night. Can't wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYMg-28dLX4
wetwillycf said:
Same issue here. No problems at all until about 2 days ago, and now in some apps (Up, Play Music, Mint) scrolling through lists is not smooth anymore. Sometimes opening the app drawer stutters a bit too. Sometime late in the day yesterday the issue seemed to almost go away, but not all the way. It's driving me crazy.
Totally stock. Guess I'll need to factory reset before I decide something is for sure wrong.
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Did you ever find out why opening up the app drawer had occasional stutters?
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Did you ever find out why opening up the app drawer had occasional stutters?
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No, and I was hoping that in the couple Sense Home updates that've rolled out since I said anything in this thread there was going to be a fix, but sadly, still sutters the first time I open it in a while. If I open it within like a minute or so of the last time I did there's no stutter. It's a tiny detail but it drives me CRAZY lol. M8 didn't have that stutter.
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No, and I was hoping that in the couple Sense Home updates that've rolled out since I said anything in this thread there was going to be a fix, but sadly, still sutters the first time I open it in a while. If I open it within like a minute or so of the last time I did there's no stutter. It's a tiny detail but it drives me CRAZY lol. M8 didn't have that stutter.
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Yea I have the exact same issue too. I thought I was the only one. I still think its more of a sense home issue because nova launcher doesn't seem to have the issue. I thought maybe it was related to the power saver mode on but that wasn't the case either. Not sure why it stutters but would like to know a fix for it for anyone knows why.
Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
I have the exact same problem. It often happens when I am scrolling.
It is as if it freezes for a split second and then it catches up creating some kind of ghosty lag. Is that the same as your experiencing?
Strange thing is that - before using s20 ultra - I also noticed it on the galaxy S10 since the Android 10 update.
S20 Ultra - EU Model (exynos)
I have noticed that on my Exynos S20 as well, but it only happens when the phone hits 38-39 degrees Celsius, so I am assuming throttling is responsible
That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
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That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
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Perf Z, which is a plugin for Game Plugins on Galaxy Store. If it is unavailable in your region, google it and the first result will link you to it.
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Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
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I kind of assumed this only happens on the Exynos version, for which reason I wanted to sell mine and get a Snapdragon variant. Interesting to know that it happens to both variants. I assumed and read some reports that this issue was fixed in the ATE6 update, but I doubt it. Maybe I should have just bought a OnePlus 8 Pro
Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
Thanks for the feedback. What settings do you address for high performance?
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I just turned on high performance, set to FHD with 120Hz and left it at that, dark mode too if it makes any difference, I leave adaptive brightness enabled too
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Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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I'm browsing and using different things on the phone most of the day, still never noticed anything like it, 120hz is butter smooth with pretty much everything other than known stuttery apps like the play store but that's the app not the phone
That happened to me when I used Tasker to dynamically switch between 120/60 Hz on per-app basis. I disabled that task, set to 120 Hz permanently, and haven't seen the screen flash since.
I have noticed a stutter when scrolling through the Gallery thumbnails.
Europe version (exynos) and no flicker
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
I have this stutter too. Especially noticeable while scrolling through the gallery, Apps like twitter and reddit...
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Mine is a regular S20 built in 28th of February. Mind if I ask where did you reach this conclusion that earlier models have this issue. Thanks
I am starting to think that it isn't. My initial assumption was that it was a quirk of the adaptive refresh rate that would be quickly addressed either by fixing it or offering a fixed 90 or 120hz option.
A couple of months in and my OnePlus 9 pro is still pretty laggy when scrolling so I am thinking that it is either not an easy fix, that OnePlus fear the battery hit or that it is a hardware issue that cannot be fixed at all.
Thoughts?
I'm not seeing any lag in scrolling in apps. Where and what apps do you having laggy scrolling?
No scrolling lag here so far on my LE2125
Try factory reset. I encountered strange lags all day before and a factory reset solved it.
It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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I’d like to see a fixed 90 or 120 hz option, that would at least confirm if this is a wider issue than the dynamic refresh rate.
I find some of that stutter when there's a video playing in the screen while scrolling, both in Chrorme and Reddit.
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It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
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This is 100% correct. I have an Exynos S21 Ultra and a 9 Pro. Even with an awesome custom kernel for this, the S21 Ultra feels smoother. In fact way smoother. I don't know what voodoo and wizardry Samsung did. It might be something to do with Samsung using energy _step governor.
I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
Chinaroad said:
And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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That's what frustrates me so much. The new phone stutters almost never and is slightly faster everywhere even though the 7 Pro was fast as f***, but scrolling feels like using a 10 year old phone on steroids (120 Hz).
On the one hand I am happy someone else has these problems, which might lead to OP fixing this, but on the other hand I'd wish it was some software issue due to rooting which would be something I could fix myself.
I already opened a request at Oneplus' service and I'll keep monitoring this and other threads for solutions. If I stumble upon some interesting news I will update here as well. Have a good day!
These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?
I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.
Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.
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Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol
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I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.
Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?
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can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.