Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
I have the exact same problem. It often happens when I am scrolling.
It is as if it freezes for a split second and then it catches up creating some kind of ghosty lag. Is that the same as your experiencing?
Strange thing is that - before using s20 ultra - I also noticed it on the galaxy S10 since the Android 10 update.
S20 Ultra - EU Model (exynos)
I have noticed that on my Exynos S20 as well, but it only happens when the phone hits 38-39 degrees Celsius, so I am assuming throttling is responsible
That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
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That's interesting. Any suggestions for a good app to keep track of the temperature? Or can I see it somewhere in standard settings?
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Perf Z, which is a plugin for Game Plugins on Galaxy Store. If it is unavailable in your region, google it and the first result will link you to it.
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fearbasel04 said:
Here is what I notice time to time. The screen kind of Flickrs or just lags for a split second. Anyone else notice it while on 120hz, anyone know of a solution?
S20 plus US model.
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I kind of assumed this only happens on the Exynos version, for which reason I wanted to sell mine and get a Snapdragon variant. Interesting to know that it happens to both variants. I assumed and read some reports that this issue was fixed in the ATE6 update, but I doubt it. Maybe I should have just bought a OnePlus 8 Pro
Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
Thanks for the feedback. What settings do you address for high performance?
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Thanks for the feedback. What settings do you address for high performance?
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I just turned on high performance, set to FHD with 120Hz and left it at that, dark mode too if it makes any difference, I leave adaptive brightness enabled too
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Not seeing this with my S20U Exynos, but I have it set to High Performance 24/7 also on the latest ATE7 June 1st update
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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This stuttering to me happens only after prolonged use. It is not easily noticeable
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I'm browsing and using different things on the phone most of the day, still never noticed anything like it, 120hz is butter smooth with pretty much everything other than known stuttery apps like the play store but that's the app not the phone
That happened to me when I used Tasker to dynamically switch between 120/60 Hz on per-app basis. I disabled that task, set to 120 Hz permanently, and haven't seen the screen flash since.
I have noticed a stutter when scrolling through the Gallery thumbnails.
Europe version (exynos) and no flicker
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I have noticed a stutter when scrolling through the Gallery thumbnails.
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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Mine too... after scrolling through the gallery, the touch screen seems to be stuttering even in homepage when i try to swipe left and right.... the problem is gone when i restarted the phone.... did you experience this too?
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
I have this stutter too. Especially noticeable while scrolling through the gallery, Apps like twitter and reddit...
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When that stuttering starts, it happens across the whole device, it only stops when the phone cools down. I have stopped using 120Hz mode just cause of this reason. The Exynos is a real mess, gets to above 40 Celsius from normal browsing. I'm surprised so little people have noticed this 120 stutter.
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Because its not there for most people, summer here, using the phone most of the day, no slowdown or stuttering ever, Exynos S20U
Try a factory reset
To the poster above, you cannot blame the phone for 3rd party buggy apps stuttering, try a better twitter app like Owly, and Joey for reddit
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Factory reset it 3 times. This is a thing that also happens to Snapdragon users, so the blame is also on Samsung's software, as it starts happening at a certain temperature.
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Like I say, not for everyone or there would be dozens of long threads all about the same thing, seems to be limited to just a few people, have a look at the manufacturering date using Samsung Phone INFO app, the earlier ones seem to have issues that the newer ones don't seem to have
Mine is 3rd April 2020 and does not suffer any slowdowns nor gets very hot even in summer playing games / videos
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Mine is a regular S20 built in 28th of February. Mind if I ask where did you reach this conclusion that earlier models have this issue. Thanks
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So I have the 10 for about a week now. Awesome phone, but I really dislike the speakers and video camera
Speakers sucks with both boomsoud mods. Hope it's gets better with updates and Audio mods.
Video cam focus is slow and why it's not 60 FPS like my 2 years old iPhone. Common HTC.
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Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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Maybe you have a dud. That certainly doesn't seem to be the norm.
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So I have the 10 for about a week now. Awesome phone, but I really dislike the speakers and video camera
Speakers sucks with both boomsoud mods. Hope it's gets better with updates and Audio mods.
Video cam focus is slow and why it's not 60 FPS like my 2 years old iPhone. Common HTC.
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I haven't tested a lot of video, but I thought I read the video would be 60 fps at 1080p and 30 at 4k.
For me the biggest drawback so far has been the screen quality. The resolution is nice, but it has this weird shine effect that is bugging me. You can only see it when it's text on white, and it is more pronounced when you tilt slightly, but it is also there when you're looking straight on.
Didn't see it at first but now I can't look without seeing it and it's killing me.
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I haven't tested a lot of video, but I thought I read the video would be 60 fps at 1080p and 30 at 4k.
For me the biggest drawback so far has been the screen quality. The resolution is nice, but it has this weird shine effect that is bugging me. You can only see it when it's text on white, and it is more pronounced when you tilt slightly, but it is also there when you're looking straight on.
Didn't see it at first but now I can't look without seeing it and it's killing me.
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I've noticed a bit of red tint here. Hopefully this can be calibrated by software in the future(like sony). But the viewing angle is pretty average though.
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Stutter and lag: yes I am shocked. I have about 80% of my typical apps installed and the phone has slowed exhibiting jank.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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According to all the reviewers, it is.
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According to all the reviewers, it is.
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According to reviewers Galaxy S6 and S7 are also stutter-free. Main reason I returned my S7 is because it was so laggy. But I guess most people really don't care. Doing a little search on google I only see people who used a nexus phone complaining about stutters on devices like S6, S7, etc.
Btw I did a little test here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66729920&postcount=226
Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Really? Could you do a test with your s7 with the graphical bars option turned on from dev options.
Btw my S7 was indeed very fast, but just stuttery in chrome (with ads blocked) and apps like YouTube.
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Odd: my S7 Edge is very fast and barely has any stutter etc which has surprised me. I was expecting the opposite go figure.
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Are you keeping both the edge and 10?
I noticed that by default Boost+ will "automatically clear memory in the background", which I had disabled since day one. Perhaps it causes stutter?
Boost+ -> Settings -> Smart Boost
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Are you keeping both the edge and 10?
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Probably give up the 10: the edge is the better phone for me and I don't mind not having root believe it or not. It does what I want it to do quite well.
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Hmm I'm also experiencing alot of stutter in apps and even in settings (did several wipes, always the same). It's not that bad but it is definitely not 100% smooth. But nobody mentions it in the forums. You're the first one.
I'm comparing it to my M8, which is nexus-like smooth, with almost no stutter at all. The only app where 10 is smoother is chrome.
I think we have to wait till custom kernels pop up. I was hoping the stock experience would be 100% smooth like the nexus phones.
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It's pretty strange more than one people report this problem since my HTC 10 is very smooth in settings(most of time it's 60 fps by looking at GPU profiling). Would you like to upload a screenshot of settings with GPU profiling turned on?
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It's pretty strange more than one people report this problem since my HTC 10 is very smooth in settings(most of time it's 60 fps by looking at GPU profiling). Would you like to upload a screenshot of settings with GPU profiling turned on?
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Could you do similar tests with settings, YouTube, twitter, playstore
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Could you do similar tests with settings, YouTube, twitter, playstore
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This is my result. In settings and youtube, the stutter is less often than yours (it happens), however Play Store is a lagging hell(sometimes worse than the screenshot below).
Not sure if it's a hardware fault or what.
As far as I know htc got their own cpu scheduling implementation, maybe that's the problem.
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I noticed that by default Boost+ will "automatically clear memory in the background", which I had disabled since day one. Perhaps it causes stutter?
Boost+ -> Settings -> Smart Boost
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For what it's worth, my phone came out of the box with Smart Boost disabled.
I played with one today and im not impressed. felt semi slow and i dont like the capacitive buttons. ill keep my nexus 5x and wait to see if and what the htc nexus is all about in the fall.
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This is my result. In settings and youtube, the stutter is less often than yours (it happens), however Play Store is a lagging hell(sometimes worse than the screenshot below).
Not sure if it's a hardware fault or what.
As far as I know htc got their own cpu scheduling implementation, maybe that's the problem.
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Yep it's definitely not stutter free. Once you've used a device where the bars stay below the line, these micro stutters are very noticeable.
I hope custom kernels gonna fix it.
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Yep it's definitely not stutter free. Once you've used a device where the bars stay below the line, these micro stutters are very noticeable.
I hope custom kernels gonna fix it.
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Considering I couldn't find any reason that this phone will perform worse than the competition, with same SoC and same DDR4 memory, the only logical explanation is that htc have a stricter frequency control (persumbly GPU) for a better battery life.
Hey!
So I've recently bought an S20 from T-Mobile. It's a Hungarian model (980F). I'm facing some weird behavior here.
The issue:
In every game I play, from simple 2D connect-three and idle games, to intense things like Asphalt 9, what happens is that for a random amount of time (i've seen everything from 1 second to 10 minutes) the framerate just tanks. And I'm not talking about the Exynos performance fiasco here. This happens regardless of how long I use the phone or how hot it gets.
Some concrete examples:
- So, the cold phone can achieve a relatively stable 60 fps in Asphalt 9. After prolonged gaming, when the phone reaches a temp equilibrium, framerates settle at around 45 fps. That's fine for me, not the topic of this thread. But, sometimes I play for hours, and I keep this steady 45-ish framerate, other times I just pick up the phone, completely cold, and the second I start up the game, even the menu lags, at precisely 20 fps (I measure this with PerfZ). After some time passes, everything is back to normal, 60 fps. Then, again, randomly 20, then back to 60 again.
- I play Adventure Communist a lot (a simple idle button clicker game, nothing graphically intensive) and well as you can imagine, it's fine at 60. But sometimes this game also drops to exactly 20 fps for some random time, then back to normal.
- Subway Surfers runs at 120 stable. This game does not drop to 20, it drops to more like 40ish something (I have not measured an exact number here, just going by feeling).
- As I've said, this all happens regardless of heat. What I've also found is that GPU usage drops down significantly when this happens, as if something artificially limited the game for the time being (like something put an FPS cap on it).
- Interestingly, some games are unaffacted: PUBG Mobile, for example, heats the phone up like hell. After a good 30-40 minutes the framerate drops to well below the cap, but I've never had the issue during any session. The phone just throttles normally, but that's it. Games originally limited to 30 fps also don't experience this (or at least I haven't noticed). Forza Street also stresses the hardware pretty well, that game also drops from 60 to 50 something fps, but never had this weird back and forth switch between 20 and 60 fps. Strange.
What I've tried:
- Changing brightness
- Changing volume
- Through game booster, changing the preferred performance levels
- Downloading game booster plus and messing with it
- Turning on high performance mode in device care
- Disabling adaptive battery, turning off battery optimizations
- Disabling everything network related
- Factory resetting
- I went to a Samsung store, told the technician everything, showed him a vid, he said they've never seen anything like this, if I wanted I could leave the phone there for a software checkup... well... I didn't
- there might have been more things i've tried i cant remember right now, i've tried a lot of things, believe me...
Online research results:
So obviously, where do people go with these problems, of course, Reddit. Now, I haven't found anything about this when I tried searching for gaming related issues, but I've found a thread where a dude complains about his Ultra scrolling at lowered framerates sometimes (which by the way also happens to me, I just chose to ignore it for some reason). In this thread, I've found another dude, who posted a video he made about games, with the exact same issue that I have! So at least 1 other guy has this in the world... And basically this is it. Haven't been able to find anything useful besides this, every other post is just about the Exynos chip being inferior and things like that. I have some videos of it, but my account is fresh so I can't post any links. Just google "S20 Ultra scroll stutter", and the first Reddit post with the same name is what I'm talking about. It's a short thread. You'll find the comment.
I'm pretty sure this is unrelated to the whole "Exynos is trash" topic, as it doesn't depend on temperatures. Also, the fact that this happens in a lot of games, but not in others leads me to believe there might be some system level/software issue here. Also, GPU usage drops when it happens (as I said, like something capped it), this suggests to me the same, some software-level limitation.
Has any of you heard of or encountered this before? Do you have any other ideas what might cause this, and how to fix it?
Thanks for your help.
Didnt experience any of these isuue tho... have you updated the game opt. Service via galaxy store?
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Didnt experience any of these isuue tho... have you updated the game opt. Service via galaxy store?
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Yes, everything is up to date.
Samsung ****ed every exynos user. It's simple as that. Also, no fix, EVER. If you can return it DO IT. No one is going to do anything about it. Everyday I see people starting threads on xda or reddit complaining but nothing is happening. We in Europe have laws that protect us against this kind of ****ery but again no one is ready to fight Samsung. If this continues 80% of forums post will end up like this one.
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Samsung ****ed every exynos user. It's simple as that. Also, no fix, EVER. If you can return it DO IT. No one is going to do anything about it. Everyday I see people starting threads on xda or reddit complaining but nothing is happening. We in Europe have laws that protect us against this kind of ****ery but again no one is ready to fight Samsung. If this continues 80% of forums post will end up like this one.
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My issue is not related to temperature and most of the problems that come with the Exynos chip are due to it running hotter and throttling. I don't think this is it.
I have the exact same issue you described with my S20. Searched but haven't found any solution either. Any information on this would be nice.
I do not own an S20 Exynos, I have the Snapdragon variant, but with my S10+ Exynos, I swear that after the Android 10 update I had started to experience the same issue. Even Clash Royale dropped for no reason to 20fps, not to mention Asphalt 9. It would sometimes go away after a reboot, other times not. Guess all you can do is wait for the Android 11 update, unless samsung issues some game optimizing service update that fixes this issue.
So the most recent update in early April 2021 (AT&T version G781USQU3DUCB) broke the screen.
In daylight, the screen will suddenly flicker a few times and then shutoff. If I press the power button twice it comes back on to the lock screen, I unlock it and it immediately shuts off.
Temporary solution is to turn off adaptive brightness (but even with adaptive brightness turned off, if you turn the screen manually to full brightness it will do the same thing).
See more info in a few other places. linked below.
Putting it here in case you didn't notice it elsewhere and perhaps some xda experts can shed some light on this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Galaxy_S20/comments/msh9ep
S20 fe 5g flickering when light hits the view finder
My screen flickers and goes blank when sunlight hits the view finder on the phone. In the house or shade it doesn't do that. I can even use a flash light and point it at the view finder and it flickers and the screen goes blank.
us.community.samsung.com
https://webcache.googleusercontent....ht-hits/m-p/1798409+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (linking to cached page because the samsung page was 'archived').
Try a factory reset. I avoid updates... still running well on Pie
ATT just released an update G781USQU3DUD4, we'll see later if that fixed the issue.
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Try a factory reset. I avoid updates... still running well on Pie
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The linked posts do clearly say that a factory reset does NOT solve the issue.
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The linked posts do clearly say that a factory reset does NOT solve the issue.
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Oops. Then reflash it, either a bad flash or firmware. That's what can happen when you play firmware roulette...
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Oops. Then reflash it, either a bad flash or firmware. That's what can happen when you play firmware roulette...
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it's firmware related, quite a few posts popped up on reddit r/GalaxyS20FE just after the April ''security'' update that was 700 plus mbs.
there's also a long standing touch issue, a scrolling screen judder issue and some camera lag. the 4G users have heating and battery life issues. LOTS of unhappy campers over there. quite a few YouTube videos on the FE's bugs too.
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it's firmware related, quite a few posts popped up on reddit r/GalaxyS20FE just after the April ''security'' update that was 700 plus mbs.
there's also a long standing touch issue, a scrolling screen judder issue and some camera lag. the 4G users have heating and battery life issues. LOTS of unhappy campers over there. quite a few YouTube videos on the FE's bugs too.
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That sucks... no easy way to uninstall a OS update.
One of the reasons I package blocked updates over a year ago. So far no real security issues running on Pie... just a stable, fast running device.
Recent Android (Apple flavored, yuck) upgrades are more like downgrades.
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That sucks... no easy way to uninstall a OS update.
One of the reasons I package blocked updates over a year ago. So far no real security issues running on Pie... just a stable, fast running device.
Recent Android (Apple flavored, yuck) upgrades are more like downgrades.
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it was better on Android 10 in my experience, kinda wish I'd stayed put too.
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it was better on Android 10 in my experience, kinda wish I'd stayed put too.
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If it's not fulfilling its mission get a version flashed that works for you.
In the end that's all that counts.
Even with all its cpu cycle sucking "security" both 10 and 11 users still can fall prey to their biggest security threat; themselves
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ATT just released an update G781USQU3DUD4, we'll see later if that fixed the issue.
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So far it seems the update fixed the issue, (tested in daylight with no issues so far - but no sunlight in the forecast until tomorrow )
Overall I'm very satisfied with the phone (my previous phone was an LG G5 so I'd probably be happy with any recent phone), have not noticed any of the other issues people complain about.
And happy to see Samsung respond and fix this fairly quickly (of course without ever even acknowledging that there is an issue). (coming from LG where an update would mean wait 6 months if I'm lucky)
I am starting to think that it isn't. My initial assumption was that it was a quirk of the adaptive refresh rate that would be quickly addressed either by fixing it or offering a fixed 90 or 120hz option.
A couple of months in and my OnePlus 9 pro is still pretty laggy when scrolling so I am thinking that it is either not an easy fix, that OnePlus fear the battery hit or that it is a hardware issue that cannot be fixed at all.
Thoughts?
I'm not seeing any lag in scrolling in apps. Where and what apps do you having laggy scrolling?
No scrolling lag here so far on my LE2125
Try factory reset. I encountered strange lags all day before and a factory reset solved it.
It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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It may get better with future firmware updates. Chrome is the worst case probably atm. Huge amounts of frame drops in that app. Btw. phone has been reset quite a few times already.
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I’d like to see a fixed 90 or 120 hz option, that would at least confirm if this is a wider issue than the dynamic refresh rate.
I find some of that stutter when there's a video playing in the screen while scrolling, both in Chrorme and Reddit.
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It is subtle so your average user may not notice it but it is there across the board in most apps where I scroll including the google feed to the left of the home page. Maybe lag is the wrong word more of a stutter and as I said I was initially convinced it was to do with a poorly implemented dynamic refresh rate, it may well be but I was hoping they would have fixed it by now.
My Exynos S21 ultra feels smoother and generally faster which is not something I thought I'd ever find myself saying about a OnePlus phone!
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This is 100% correct. I have an Exynos S21 Ultra and a 9 Pro. Even with an awesome custom kernel for this, the S21 Ultra feels smoother. In fact way smoother. I don't know what voodoo and wizardry Samsung did. It might be something to do with Samsung using energy _step governor.
I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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I know what you're talking about, and with the last update, it feels vetter. The stutter got better, but the inertia of scrolling when you wipe your finger is still slow
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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It's not just the inertia. Scrolling accelerates slower and even when you, after flicking the **** out of the list reach the faster speed it does not scroll that fast. Just like the guy in the video I came from 7 Pro and the difference almost causes pain to me:
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And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
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And then there are people who says it's normal and it's ok for them
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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It is absolutely ok for me if OP decides that the majority of users does prefer a slower scrolling. However this is nothing you can cover up front when considering to buy a phone and when you are busy getting apps and configurations to work scrolling is something you notice later.
I'd be perfectly fine with an option to customize like "scrolling behaviour" where I can set it to either "old OP phones" or simply slide some bars to configure accelleration, max velocity and sensitivity.
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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Sure a slider would be nice, but one thing is sure too, that your new phone cant be slower than the old one, or feel slower or even stutter
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That's what frustrates me so much. The new phone stutters almost never and is slightly faster everywhere even though the 7 Pro was fast as f***, but scrolling feels like using a 10 year old phone on steroids (120 Hz).
On the one hand I am happy someone else has these problems, which might lead to OP fixing this, but on the other hand I'd wish it was some software issue due to rooting which would be something I could fix myself.
I already opened a request at Oneplus' service and I'll keep monitoring this and other threads for solutions. If I stumble upon some interesting news I will update here as well. Have a good day!
These micro lags makes the phones processor feel like it's from 2018, can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters, same with light gaming, I don't think this processer can handle to much?
If the next update doesn't fix these issues then I don't think they will be fixed?
I haven't had this problem in the last two months I've been using the phone. My wife hasn't complained about her games - I generally don't game very much.
Have never once felt a jitter or lag.....not once. For me this phone has been a pleasure to use. I rooted right out of the box and have since done an update and switched to another rom without a hitch really. except one hiccup i was having with a bootloop. Which proved to be me not disabling mods before the flash. I absolutely love this phone. I am not seeing any of the issues that people are reporting. I also believe that a LOT of reports are bogus. ( Not saying that this is the case here).
I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
I've noticed lag when typing. I do use gboard as most of the people do. I do type with two languages activated. Every now and then the phone lags for about a second.
I thought google had already acknowledge that the phone does lag when the battery percentage drops.
Something about accessibility and animations as far as I remember.
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
Very smooth experience for me for gaming and all my everyday tasks.
Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
Ady1976 said:
Lol that's the first thing I noticed straight from a clean setup twice, Cod mobile is a jittery mess but perfectly fine on my OP 8 Pro and every time I swiped left for Google now it would jitter, Not all the time but it did do it frequently.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
clipdawg05 said:
Cod mobile was jittery as hell for me as well. After the Dec update it is not jittery anymore but playing on it is really weird. I can't get used to it so i still play on my Poco x3
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Yeah cod mobile is a jittery mess here on November software I can't play it all can't get used to it, I've ditched it for now and playing on my OP 8 Pro buttery smooth on 8 Pro.
kevinireland11 said:
Yeah my OnePlus Nord gen1 runs far smoother than this phone lol, so weird, if it's not fixed by the next update then I'm selling it for galaxy s21 Fe 5g, SD 888
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I think some people are in denial about this handset to be honest, Ok be thing I have learned over the years never trust the usual YouTubers they know who they are and are scripted.
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Always gonna be a beta tester on this phone I think
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Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
choder said:
Mine studders for sure a few times a day for a few seconds. Factor reset didn't help. This phone feels like it's 8 years old with the stutters and the fingerprint reader that doesn't work.
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That's what it's doing here it's like the CPU or GPU is asleep then all of a sudden wakes up after It's too late lol
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I think these "jitters/lag" you are experiencing are due to the framerate getting locked to 60hz. This happens with mine ever day or two. After a reboot it will be smooth. My guess is there is a "bug" from an app or something causing the framerate to lock at 60hz, rather than the 120hz. I haven't quite figured out how to resolve, other than a reboot. It is quite annoying, and I am hoping a future update (if we ever get one!) will fix it.
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That is another possibility and another reason why I hate Google phones they don't even have refresh rate locks just a "Smooth" option but still jitters.
Just found another bug lol try scrolling fast in opposite directions in messages it just freezes and gets confused and sits there like it can't understand fast opposite direction of scrolling lol, Amazing how these devices get released in these states really.
Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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I no and people dis oneui, Samsung have came such a long way to be honest, at least they're phones are smooth and the extra features that's on oneui is what the consumers asked for, even with all the added features it doesn't hinder battery life, yah can't even screen cast on this phone without a chrome cast, people say about a clean stock software but but what's the point, not like as if it's better battery and performance, I get better performance and battery out of my S20 Fe 5g
Ady1976 said:
Well the fact they can't even roll an update out without bricking people's phones kind of says it all really, The software features this device is missing will never get added by Google never it's not in their nature they couldn't care less what the user thinks.
You have to check the Google forums to see most complaint threads have been locked by admins to give you an idea of how little **** they give.
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They definitely didn't "brick" from the update. Do you know what "brick" means?
kevinireland11 said:
can't scroll through anything without having all these micro lags and jitters
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If a scrollable list is implemented as a scrollview, data will be loaded into it dynamically, AS you scroll through it. Depending on the speed and latency of the data source (for example, loading over the network), and the complexity of generating each element, you may occasionally scroll beyond the loaded data, requiring an interruption that you might perceive as a "lag" or "jitter".
So really there can be two causes that do NOT imply a CPU performance issue; data source, and bad code. A competent programmer can load data from the network in a more effective manner and ensure that processing overhead is minimized, thus reducing the negative effects.
Unfortunately, with mobile, like web, competent programmers are like a drop of water in the ocean.