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Dumb question - Do i need to unroot to take an OTA?

Forgive me, I am new to "pure google" devices.
I am on build NRD90R. I used the nexus root toolkit to unlock the bootloader and root the device.
I am being prompted for a new OTA. Probably just the october security update. Do i need to "unroot" before i can take the OTA or will this overwrite what it needs to?
thanks.

DrKaotica said:
Forgive me, I am new to "pure google" devices.
I am on build NRD90R. I used the nexus root toolkit to unlock the bootloader and root the device.
I am being prompted for a new OTA. Probably just the october security update. Do i need to "unroot" before i can take the OTA or will this overwrite what it needs to?
thanks.
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OTA will download, but it won't install if there are any changes to system partition. You could fastboot flash the factory image files if your bootloader is unlocked.

cam30era said:
OTA will download, but it won't install if there are any changes to system partition. You could fastboot flash the factory image files if your bootloader is unlocked.
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OK cool. It looks like the new update to NRT supports the latest build so I should be good to go. Thanks.
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[Updating Pixel XL] After unlocked bootloader and rooted

So some might remember me awhile back ago... https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/unlocking-verizon-bootloader-t3557290
I got tired of not having a unlocked/rooted device since I just dropped so much money on a new phone for my 27th bday sooo I took it back to verizon and swapped it for a new one. I was having the battery problems where my phone would hit 30-15% and just die on me OR the screen would die on me but the phone stayed on no problems.. I'd be in a phone call and the screen would shut off and I couldnt get it to turn back on without plugging in a charger or battery bank.
I've got my new phone now and everything is working flawlessly.. It's unlocked, has twrp installed and rooted just fine..
Now I remember seeing something about once I unlock/root the device my OTA becomes disabled so where do I get the OTA update for the device so I can go to 7.1.1 or later this month 7.1.2? I found this https://developers.google.com/android/ota and I see the 7.1.1 update but it's 800mbs which means I'm guessing if I flash that i'd be completely reinstalling a new copy of android and lose all of my data and have to go through setting up my phone again etc..
How do I just get the update itself and flash that? When I use the OTA on my Pixel XL the download is only like 200MB it doesn't install though just says it failed. Still new to all of this but I'm learning and how else am I gonna learn if I don't ask questions
a point in the right direction would be great.

https://developers.google.com/android/images
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wyrdtrtle said:
https://developers.google.com/android/images
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These images are even bigger than the ones I linked.. the 7.1.1 update is 1.8GB? the file I'm downloading via my Phone is 282.1 MB?

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If you go to that link in the post above you can download the newest firmware. Unzip it and open the bat file with note editor or something like that and remove the -w and it will update without losing your data.

Dimmizer said:
These images are even bigger than the ones I linked.. the 7.1.1 update is 1.8GB? the file I'm downloading via my Phone is 282.1 MB?
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You use your original link and sideload it with TWRP.

TonikJDK said:
You use your original link and sideload it with TWRP.
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Thanks

Upper left corner Link to OTA's smaller
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Now one last question...
From official TWRP webpage it says
Never try official ota updates using TWRP. Its not recommended. should I wait to update to 7.1.1 or flash? any pros/cons?
Thanks for all the help and ansrewing of questions so far
Edit: should I unroot and try to OTA again and if it works just reroot the device?

Dimmizer said:
Now one last question...
From official TWRP webpage it says
Never try official ota updates using TWRP. Its not recommended. should I wait to update to 7.1.1 or flash? any pros/cons?
Thanks for all the help and ansrewing of questions so far
Edit: should I unroot and try to OTA again and if it works just reroot the device?
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You are unlocked, so the only danger here is that you bootloop and lose your data. Make sure your data is backed up and sideload the ota with the directions on googles ota page and re install TWRP.
That's the easiest way and pretty darn safe. I dont recall seeing anyone having trouble with that.

Looking at unrooting my device so I can do OTA updates via the phone and then I'll just reroot again but during the unroot process it says
Attempt to restore stock boot image? This is require for OTA's to succeed. If you manually decrypted your device, note that this might prevent my device from booting.
How do I know if I manually decrypted it? I used depixel8 to unlock bootloader and used SuperSU to root so am I safe to proceed or should I not attempt to restore a stock boot image?

Dimmizer said:
Looking at unrooting my device so I can do OTA updates via the phone and then I'll just reroot again but during the unroot process it says
Attempt to restore stock boot image? This is require for OTA's to succeed. If you manually decrypted your device, note that this might prevent my device from booting.
How do I know if I manually decrypted it? I used depixel8 to unlock bootloader and used SuperSU to root so am I safe to proceed or should I not attempt to restore a stock boot image?
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You did not decrypt it. That isn't currently doable.

TonikJDK said:
You are unlocked, so the only danger here is that you bootloop and lose your data. Make sure your data is backed up and sideload the ota with the directions on googles ota page and re install TWRP.
That's the easiest way and pretty darn safe. I dont recall seeing anyone having trouble with that.
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Doing what you said now

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Dimmizer said:
Looking at unrooting my device so I can do OTA updates via the phone and then I'll just reroot again but during the unroot process it says
Attempt to restore stock boot image? This is require for OTA's to succeed. If you manually decrypted your device, note that this might prevent my device from booting.
How do I know if I manually decrypted it? I used depixel8 to unlock bootloader and used SuperSU to root so am I safe to proceed or should I not attempt to restore a stock boot image?
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I wouldn't unroot with that, doesn't work all the time just flash the newest firmware and you will be unrooted. You are going to have a bad time if you do.

mk so another question..
https://twrp.me/faq/officialota.html
twrp says NOT to flash ota with twrp? so should I flash back to a stock recovery or just use twrp? if so how? lol
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
The google site explains what to do but I'm assuming it's explaining things as if I had a stock recovery and I don't..

lol... I know this isn't that hard and I'm just being paranoid cause I don't wanna brick my phone etc. but also it's like ALLLL this work just so I can flash new android update to my phone... and this whole thing seems to be taking longer than it really needs to.

Dimmizer said:
lol... I know this isn't that hard and I'm just being paranoid cause I don't wanna brick my phone etc. but also it's like ALLLL this work just so I can flash new android update to my phone... and this whole thing seems to be taking longer than it really needs to.
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Hit the link below, it explains it well and you will see it worked for others.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/rooted-twrp-recovery-how-update-ota-t3524279
If you ever bootloop don't freak, its an unlocked google phone. Flashing back to stock is easy.

The only thing that was in question was the bootloader unlock, once its unlocked your safe. It wont relock unless you lock it. But, if you do lock it, its locked for good. Afaika
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Dimmizer said:
lol... I know this isn't that hard and I'm just being paranoid cause I don't wanna brick my phone etc. but also it's like ALLLL this work just so I can flash new android update to my phone... and this whole thing seems to be taking longer than it really needs to.
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Dimmizer said:
mk so another question..
https://twrp.me/faq/officialota.html
twrp says NOT to flash ota with twrp? so should I flash back to a stock recovery or just use twrp? if so how? lol
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
The google site explains what to do but I'm assuming it's explaining things as if I had a stock recovery and I don't..
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I flashed OTA with twrp on my buddy's pixel for the Feb update worked just fine. Just make sure it's the OTA and not the factory image. But the best way would be using fastboot

Most anything you flash (stock updates, custom roms, will overwrite recovery. But not a problem, you just re-boot it to flash it, or just boot it and flash su and reboot device.
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awesome , thanks again everyone for your time and the help, very much greatly appreciated.

Need help getting caught up (solved)

I neglected my phone for a while because it seemed like I was updating all the time. Now i am not sure of the best way to get current. I am currently on version 7.1.2. any advice? Thanks in advance

You should be able to flash the 8.0.0 OTA and then I'd flash the latest security update. Flashfire should work fine if you're rooted
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The thing I am looking at says
"1. You'll need bootloader, radio and vendor images from latest Google OTA ( Current: OPR4.170623.006 )"
How do I get this? I already had it rooted and twrp installed.

Krazy_Calvin said:
The thing I am looking at says
"1. You'll need bootloader, radio and vendor images from latest Google OTA ( Current: OPR4.170623.006 )"
How do I get this? I already had it rooted and twrp installed.
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If you are already rooted I would recommend checking out this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206930. Scroll down to the section labeled "9. How To Update To A New Build Of The Stock ROM".
The stock nexus images can be downloaded from https://developers.google.com/android/images.
After flashing you would have to root again using your preferred method. I haven't had any problems rooting with Magisk.
You'll have to reinstall twrp and any system mods you've previously installed when flashing this way though.

Hey, this worked perfect. Thank you.

If you are rooted and unlocked can you accept the update notification?

I haven't been offered it yet, but I know it's coming so wanted to ask, trying to stay on the official channel.
If you accept the update will I lose root and have to re-root?
I'm out of practice since the Nexus 6P tether worked out of the box.
Thanks in advance!

wonderrx said:
I haven't been offered it yet, but I know it's coming so wanted to ask, trying to stay on the official channel.
If you accept the update will I lose root and have to re-root?
I'm out of practice since the Nexus 6P tether worked out of the box.
Thanks in advance!
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The OTA probably won't work because when you root with Magisk you flash a modified boot image. Process would be as follows before taking the OTA.
Flash stock boot image from the Image Version you are currently on (i.e. Flash the October Boot Image)
Reboot
Take OTA
Re-root using Magisk using the November Boot image to patch
add tethering line to build.prop or get the Magisk Module
Profit
You would need to repeat this for each monthly update to keep root.

I had always thought this was the best way to install OTAs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips

Cowbell_Guy said:
I had always thought this was the best way to install OTAs. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md#ota-installation-tips
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Normally yes but I'm not sure if the partition structure is identical on the new Pixels but you could always try @topjohnwu 's method and report back.

I didn't think you could do an OTA with an unlocked bootloader, is that true? If so, topjohnwu's method wouldn't work anyway.

Pixel and Pixel XL factory image and OTA posted

I guess I have something to do when I get home. No update to platform tools.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
https://developers.google.com/android/ota

All seems good so far. Supposedly the charging issue is fixed...

Nothing via OTA update
Only images are available
Just get it on OTA via US IP (vpn), but update dont star
Im rooted, is't interfering??

These wouldn't allow a user to downgrade, correct? Like, to 7.1.0, use dePixel8, and then root?

Can the updates be installed out of sequence? I'm currently on the Oreo March update, can I install the May update without installing April first?

moyses said:
Nothing via OTA update
Only images are available
Just get it on OTA via US IP (vpn), but update dont star
Im rooted, is't interfering??
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if you're rooted, then the ota won't apply via the google system update. your rom has to be completely stock in order for it to work. your bootloader can be unlocked. i don't know about flashing the ota via twrp. i've never done it.
Bramton1 said:
These wouldn't allow a user to downgrade, correct? Like, to 7.1.0, use dePixel8, and then root?
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correct, they will not allow a user to downgrade. there isn't a downgrade method available for locked bootloaders.
Gulfstream 650 said:
Can the updates be installed out of sequence? I'm currently on the Oreo March update, can I install the May update without installing April first?
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if you flash the full factory image, yes, you can flash the may update over the march update. i don't know about the otas though. i always flash the full factory image.

Does anyone know if I can flash the OTA on my nonrooted Pixel XL through TWRP ?