I have had several HTC phones on T-Mobile, my last one was the HTC One M8, which was easily unlocked through the HTC dev website to unlock the bootloader, which made it easy them to Root and more importantly install TWRP for ROM's.
Any word if this will still be the case through T-Mobile ?
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I have had several HTC phones on T-Mobile, my last one was the HTC One M8, which was easily unlocked through the HTC dev website to unlock the bootloader, which made it easy them to Root and more importantly install TWRP for ROM's.
Any word if this will still be the case through T-Mobile ?
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its already in the HTC dev list. there is no "tmobile version" its the unlocked version which is 100% unlockable right on htc site, and currently able to do.
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its already in the HTC dev list. there is no "tmobile version" its the unlocked version which is 100% unlockable right on htc site, and currently able to do.
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He is talking about the tmobile branded one you buy from the store. Tmobile has never blocked HTCdev in the past only Verizon has so I would say it is safe to assume that it can be. I would say that the same rules would apply as always that it will be probability be sim-locked that tmobile will give you the unlock code if you meet their requirements.
This is all because Samsung locked the bootloader for the S7/Edge. Everyone is all hurt and blame T-Mobile for it. T-Mobile is going as far to say if they can't get Samsung to unlock it they'll have people return their devices and get one that can be unlocked if the person chooses. That screams to me T-Mobile never locked it in the first place and devices will only be locked if the manufacturer locks it.
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If it ever comes to tmo
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If it ever comes to tmo
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It's launching May 18 with a free Ice View and extra charger promo. ☺
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What is up with Tmobile US? Are they gonna release Htc 10 or not? I haven't heard anything or pre order yet, it's pissing me off.
Probably has to do with NDA and Verizon exclusively first carrier deal. Rumor is something is going to be announced tomorrow.
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What is up with Tmobile US? Are they gonna release Htc 10 or not? I haven't heard anything or pre order yet, it's pissing me off.
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I wish they would hurry up and tell us something, I'm ready to get rid of this Note 5 [emoji1]
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Just order the unlocked one and call it a day. Easier than waiting around for T-Mobile to release the phone. We know for sure the unlocked model has an unlockable bootloader. Why speculate?
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Just order the unlocked one and call it a day. Easier than waiting around for T-Mobile to release the phone. We know for sure the unlocked model has an unlockable bootloader. Why speculate?
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The majority of people aren't gonna drop $750 up front so waiting for the T-Mobile version works out better. Or $650 with the $100 off from HTC.
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The majority of people aren't gonna drop $750 up front so waiting for the T-Mobile version works out better. Or $650 with the $100 off from HTC.
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Either way you're paying for the device so why not just buy it outright? I guess smaller monthly payments are easier to swallow, but it still doesn't change the price of the device. I imagine people will be up in arms about a locked down bootloader if T-Mobile does indeed lock it, but the fact remains they could have ordered an unlocked one from the start and called it a day.
If they don't like the device, they can always return it, or sell it outright without having to pay the device off on an upgrade program just to have it unlocked for another carrier. For the budget conscious it would make more financial sense to purchase an unlocked device for resale purposes.
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Either way you're paying for the device so why not just buy it outright? I guess smaller monthly payments are easier to swallow, but it still doesn't change the price of the device. I imagine people will be up in arms about a locked down bootloader if T-Mobile does indeed lock it, but the fact remains they could have ordered an unlocked one from the start and called it a day.
If they don't like the device, they can always return it, or sell it outright without having to pay the device off on an upgrade program just to have it unlocked for another carrier. For the budget conscious it would make more financial sense to purchase an unlocked device for resale purposes.
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You said it yourself, it's the exact same price no matter what so $20-$30 a month for a lot of people makes more sense than $750 up front. And in 6 months something new will be out and we can trade that phone in and get the new phone and T-Mobile pays the remainder of the balance off which will be maybe $550 left after 6 months. And you don't have to find a buyer, pay sales fees if you use eBay or Swappa and you don't have to turn in the charger or anything the phone comes with.
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Probably has to do with NDA and Verizon exclusively first carrier deal. Rumor is something is going to be announced tomorrow.
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Where was the rumor that it was going to be announced today?
It's just a rumor I read. Don't remember where I read it.
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You said it yourself, it's the exact same price no matter what so $20-$30 a month for a lot of people makes more sense than $750 up front. And in 6 months something new will be out and we can trade that phone in and get the new phone and T-Mobile pays the remainder of the balance off which will be maybe $550 left after 6 months. And you don't have to find a buyer, pay sales fees if you use eBay or Swappa and you don't have to turn in the charger or anything the phone comes with.
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T-Mobile charges a hefty price to upgrade every few months. I had them at one point and used the Jump program a few times. Just wasn't worth the hassle when instill had to pay hundreds of dollars to bring the balance down to trade it in. Assuming that one will pay 25 bucks a month with no money down on a $650 device; 6 months later they have only paid $150 toward the price of the device. In order to upgrade you have to pay over 60% of the device's initial value. You're still coming out of pocket a few hundred dollars. In essence you lost money because you reset your time to pay for a new device and lost hundreds in the process.
I see the appeal, I truly do, but it's just not financially prudent to do that when you can own the device outright, sell it and recoup a good portion of your money in the process.
But that's not even the main point I was trying to make LOL. The main point is that buying an unlocked devices guarantees an unlockable bootloader. Waiting for the T-Mobile device does not. What will people do if the bootloader is locked down on T-Mobile? Not buy the device because it's too "expensive?" Or will they shell the money out like they probably should have done from the start?
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You said it yourself, it's the exact same price no matter what so $20-$30 a month for a lot of people makes more sense than $750 up front. And in 6 months something new will be out and we can trade that phone in and get the new phone and T-Mobile pays the remainder of the balance off which will be maybe $550 left after 6 months. And you don't have to find a buyer, pay sales fees if you use eBay or Swappa and you don't have to turn in the charger or anything the phone comes with.
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Great points! On TMO Jump on Demand (JoD) I can jump to the HTC 10 then jump back to the S7 if I don't like it..... Saves me the hassle of selling my old phones.
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T-Mobile charges a hefty price to upgrade every few months. I had them at one point and used the Jump program a few times. Just wasn't worth the hassle when instill had to pay hundreds of dollars to bring the balance down to trade it in. Assuming that one will pay 25 bucks a month with no money down on a $650 device; 6 months later they have only paid $150 toward the price of the device. In order to upgrade you have to pay over 60% of the device's initial value. You're still coming out of pocket a few hundred dollars. In essence you lost money because you reset your time to pay for a new device and lost hundreds in the process.
I see the appeal, I truly do, but it's just not financially prudent to do that when you can own the device outright, sell it and recoup a good portion of your money in the process.
But that's not even the main point I was trying to make LOL. The main point is that buying an unlocked devices guarantees an unlockable bootloader. Waiting for the T-Mobile device does not. What will people do if the bootloader is locked down on T-Mobile? Not buy the device because it's too "expensive?" Or will they shell the money out like they probably should have done from the start?
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I'm on the original Jump program so I can trade my phone in every 6 months no matter how much I owe. I think the original jump was the best one, they keep trying to get to switch to the new ones but nope I'm staying put lol.
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I'm on the original Jump program so I can trade my phone in every 6 months no matter how much I owe. I think the original jump was the best one, they keep trying to get to switch to the new ones but nope I'm staying put lol.
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I would have to disagree. With JOD, there is no fee and I can upgrade 3x/year... but something is wrong with that, because I have already upgraded more than 3 times LOL. I've been able to do like 5 jumps in the past 10 months. Not currently on a jump though as I bought a 6P outright.
I played with the HTC 10, G5, and S7 Edge in a Verizon store yesterday...
The 10 definitely felt and looked great. I loved the software. This camera should be the #1 camera out there... same sensor as the 6P but with OIS, laser AF, and f/1.8? Get the software together HTC! It'll be really hard getting used to the small screen though. The home button actually felt nice (it's recessed) and is capacitive, so luckily the 5.2" isn't hampered too much since no on-screen buttons are present. The speakers seemed tinny in the store... definitely needed more hands on time with it. Only concern is the potentially bad sunlight viewing, and the fact that it's LCD. I hate LCD compared to OLED. Camera app was decent but not great. Max shutter speed I believe was 2 seconds? Bummer. But with the large pixels and f/1.8 it might be killer for anything other than moonlight shots. I'm a big audio guy, sort of... I only use Google Music, but I have some expensive audio stuff. Earbuds are SE846, so I imagine the 10 would compliment them better than my 6P. The only thing that would make this phone perfect for me would be if it were 5.5" and OLED.
The G5 felt like a toy. It may be metal, but the primed and painted feeling is just crap. The power button is REALLY small and felt/clicked like a $5 toy. Even the volume rockers sucked. The screen is too freaking small with the DPI and on-screen buttons. The only thing that phone has going for it is the camera (app mostly) and the good LCD - but I still hate LCD. I wish other manufacturers would get with the program. Having up to a 30 second shutter is INCREDIBLE at night with a tripod. And the app is gorgeous and truly manual control. AOD is stupid with an LCD - it looks terrible at night. I would pay $100 for that app to work on any of my other phones, no questions asked.
The S7 Edge was no surprise. It looks great and feels great. The edge screen gives the feeling that the display is bezel-less at the sides, and sort of floating. It looks cool as hell at a glance. But the curved edges are also annoying due to color shift on white screens (what you mostly look at). The edges turn blue-green. They also look kind of weird when viewing video content. The camera's autofocus is mind-blowing. It's practically instantaneous. The app is good. I'd rate it in-between HTC's and LG's. TouchJizz is still lame as **** though, and lack of root almost kills the desire to buy the phone. Water resistance is pretty dope though, but using a micro-USB port again isn't. AOD is useless without notifications.
Anyone know when the 10 is coming to T-Mobile?! They did an un-boxing weeks ago, so it's obviously happening. I think that'll be my best choice if I want something new until maybe the Note 6 or next Nexus comes out. Thinking it over the 6P is truly still an amazing phone. I've always loved vanilla Android, the camera is great, it's still quick, and the 5.7" OLED w/ stereo speakers is just lovely to have.
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Hi all,
I keep looking at UK mobile operator websites and they have sections that say Upgrade to the IPhone 4s and so on which leads me to believe they are under contract to heavily push the IPhone above all else as if its better.
I also then noticed on the Vodafone site that the Lumia is on coming soon.
I believe that the Nexus is being held back till after both these launches and I believe that this is due to the operators being pushed by Apple and Microsoft. It seems sad that that Google either feels it doesn't need to do anything about this or is so complacent to think that marketing won't beat technical superiority. Betamax vs VHS proves this not to be true.
Anybody else noticed this or am I a conspiracy theorist of one
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Maybe conspiracy is strong
But it seems to me that ICS seems to be put to the back of the queue.
There are more android phones than Iphone sales so I am not sure its business in that sense.
I would suggest they are being lent on in a way that google isnt doing.
You are prob right its business at the root of the cause but is it me or has anyone else experienced it.
The conspiracy theory makes sense but it could be any other reason. I think there is definitely something delaying things. Maybe last minute tweaks by Google.
In the UK it is coming out on O2. I'm not sure if O2 will put their crap on it or if they'll give us the stock Android.
I think it is a few last-minute tweaks. Like the launch of the Nexus S last year, there are always some tweaks and logistics to work out prior to launch. Also remember that the engineers seemed rather annoyed with the face unlock's refusal to cooperate during the announcement presentation, among other little things. These might be those teaks we are waiting on...
it's not just iphone 4s. it's also the droid bionic, razr, and for at&t, sgs2. they just released these well-equipped phones, but won't get a chance to sell them once the galaxy nexus comes out.
it's nothing more than carriers pushing sales for products they already have on the shelves today.
The other thing that might be note worthy is just like most apple fanboys, in or out of contract they'll buy it... Close to a big phone release tmobile always offers some of their best smart phones for better discounts to new customers/upgrades I think. In my opinion this is so they can get the people at launch of the much better phone to pay full price /shrugs that's what I've noticed at least.
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Precisely why Verizon hasn't said much about the Galaxy Nexus in the US. They want to get as many iPhone sales as possible right now, there's nothing that can compare at the moment. I will most likely be leave VZW for an unlocked GSM version anyway.
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The other thing that might be note worthy is just like most apple fanboys, in or out of contract they'll buy it... Close to a big phone release tmobile always offers some of their best smart phones for better discounts to new customers/upgrades I think. In my opinion this is so they can get the people at launch of the much better phone to pay full price /shrugs that's what I've noticed at least.
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Who do you think benefits from customers paying full price for their phones? The providers, like T-mobile and VZW? I always thought that all they cared about was getting you to sign a new 2yr contract... because I don't think they get a cut of an unsubsidized phone sale. I could be wrong though...
they just want people to buy the locked down crap so they come back later and pay full price for a nexus
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Who do you think benefits from customers paying full price for their phones? The providers, like T-mobile and VZW? I always thought that all they cared about was getting you to sign a new 2yr contract... because I don't think they get a cut of an unsubsidized phone sale. I could be wrong though...
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I'm sure they get percent either way but if they've screwed you into contract with a lesser phone and can have you coming back for another phone in a month off contract they're doing pretty well for themselves. Especially with the people that sell their phones back to the dealer for half street value... Ouch
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Who do you think benefits from customers paying full price for their phones? The providers, like T-mobile and VZW? I always thought that all they cared about was getting you to sign a new 2yr contract... because I don't think they get a cut of an unsubsidized phone sale. I could be wrong though...
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If they don't get a cut of an unsubsidized phone sale, then that means they don't get to pay less for a subsidized phone sale either, so either way the carrier is paying out of pocket for a phone subsidy.
Think about it this way, the phone manufacturer doesn't care whether you buy the phone from your carrier subsidized or unsubsidized, that means the manufacturer will charge the carrier the same price either way. So the difference between what the carrier makes from a subsidized phone sale and a unsubsidized phone sale is exactly the difference between the prices it charges you, regardless of how much of a cut they get from the phone sale.
This is, of course, ignoring more complicated revenue sharing and carrier branding schemes that might exist between a carrier and a manufacturer.
Shops and operators can be bought with money.
If you own a shop, and Microsoft/Nokia comes around to offer you the largest cash in return to putting Lumia at the shop front, and placing GNex waaaaay at the back next to the dust bin, course you'd take the money.
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Shops and operators can be bought with money.
If you own a shop, and Microsoft/Nokia comes around to offer you the largest cash in return to putting Lumia at the shop front, and placing GNex waaaaay at the back next to the dust bin, course you'd take the money.
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I partally agree but would google/samsung allow it and if so then they are properly cheap.
Also has this business thing happened or is it due to real world problems.
It looks fishy that the biggest android thing for a while seems to be getting buried and a spit
*Lumia* wash mouth out is on 'coming soon' on Vodafone but no GalaxyNexus.
Also would the operator potentially alienate their customers ? Are Android customers just wimps???
The reason for GN pushback is cause Sammy introducing Galaxy Note first (logistics reasons)
Or....they are releasing other phones with older android versions first to give them a small chance to sell before becoming near instantly obsoleted and sell tragically low amounts. That doesn't sound too unreasonable.
Steve Jobs, may he rest in peace, swore to destroy Android wich he hated more than anything, and adding to that the fact GN is a samsung, i'd not be suprised if Apple is paying alot of money to keep the media hype down. Just my little conspirecy theory
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when it comes to verizon... its all about pushing the Razr and rezound as much as they can b4 they drop the galaxy nexus... they will push the hell out of those 2 phones as well as the iphone 4s as much as they can through black friday. then release the GN the week after knowing true blue android fans will come buy them anyway.its business.. can you blame them?
My trusty Gnex was recently stolen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863863, and I am currently facing a troubling dilemma. I realize there are something like 5 "Nexus" devices being released this fall/winter. I also realize that isnt "all" that long from now. However, it is a few months away and a lot will be going on. I have a little one at home and they grow so fast at this age. These next few months have Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years which are all key photo/video opportunities. The phone I am currently using is an old Gingerbread device that is "ok", but certainly not able to take the quality pics and videos like the Gnex.
So my dilemma is do I drop $350 (directly from Google) and pick up a new phone or wait? To be honest, if I could get the Gnex for like $150 or $200 I would be happy to sign a service contract. I am currently on Tmobile and they have told me I am upgrade eligible since I havent had a contract in many years, but they dont sell the Gnex! Due to the fact that all CDMA providers SUCK (and are so expensive) I cant consider moving away from Tmobile, so changing carriers is not an option. I checked around and I cant even find a 3rd party retailer that sells the Gnex AND can provide me with a new Tmobile plan. The biggest problem is I know the minute the new Gnex drops I am going to want it, but I dont know if I can justify spending $350 now plus another $500 (or whatever) in a few months.....
I got one for 220 for sale
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I got one for 220 for sale
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Brand new or used?
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So my dilemma is do I drop $350 (directly from Google) and pick up a new phone or wait? To be honest, if I could get the Gnex for like $150 or $200 I would be happy to sign a service contract.
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Don't know why you're even considering this, considering that service contracts cost way more than the $150-$200 that you'd save.
Not going to kid, it does suck that you lost the phone at this particular time. There aren't very good options when the next big thing you want isn't out quite yet; they all cost money. Buying a new Nexus will be $350ish, a new contract will cost $1400ish (depending on the upfront price of the phone and your opportunity costs); that comes out to $800 even if you resell the phone for full price (an unrealistic scenario) when the next Nexus comes out. If I could stand it, I'd just keep using your gingerbread and pray it comes out soon.
Getting a used GN if you want to pay around $200 (as Jason suggests) is also another option. Hell, you might even be able to resell it for a similar price (though naturally there will be a price decrease when the new one comes out).
Used has a corner crack but everything still functional do still a great device
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I just saw on tmobiles site you can get a Galaxy S III for $99 on contract. That would be the way to go if you don't mind a contract.
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or you could just go buy a camera
Samsung has there new galaxy camera.
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If you don't mind buying something other than a Galaxy Nexus, why get yourself a GS III once it gets cheaper. Its actually going for $99.99 online right now! Sale ends at 11:59pm today!
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If you don't mind buying something other than a Galaxy Nexus, why get yourself a GS III once it gets cheaper. Its actually going for $99.99 online right now! Sale ends at 11:59pm today!
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GSIII is not cheaper; you have to pay the price of a contract which, as I pointed out above, can exceed $1000.
The OP mentioned he/she is already with T-Mobile and eligible for an upgrade.
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That does not reduce the opportunity cost of a new contract in any way.
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Don't know why you're even considering this, considering that service contracts cost way more than the $150-$200 that you'd save.
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Trust me, I am very aware of how annoying contracts are and that is why I have been without one for so many years. However, I currently get a decent discount from a company I used to work at (6 years ago!!) which makes my bill comparatively low. If I switch to the new Tmobile unlimited plan I will be all in (taxes, and everything) for just over $60 per month. I do see that Straight Talk offers "unlimited" everything for $45, but I don't know if that includes taxes or if it is truly unlimited. I have given thought to going to prepaid however, so you do raise a valid point. In either case though, I still need a new GNEX!!
Buy a good older model canon camera. Problem solved. $100
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If you don't mind buying something other than a Galaxy Nexus, why get yourself a GS III once it gets cheaper. Its actually going for $99.99 online right now! Sale ends at 11:59pm today!
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The S III seems like a nice enough phone, but its really just not for me. I swore I would never purchase another non-Nexus phone again as I do not care for the horrible "tweaks" these companies do to core Android OS. I would end up rooting it and then installing a vanilla JB ROM on the thing, and then being frustrated that it wasnt actually a Nexus device!
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I already have a decent digital camera, but using it feels like a throwback to 2002. It far thicker than my (any?) phone, requires I carry two devices, and can't record in proper HD. Yes, it does take nicer pictures but the "cons" of constantly needing to remember to carry it make it frustrating. I also must say that I got used to the convenience of my photos automatically syncing to Dropbox!
Regarding the suggestion for a used GNex, I do like the idea and I am currently searching for one. The problem is that Craigslist is so full of scammers these days. Even the people that DO actually have it will tell you its a "9.5 out of 10" in terms of condition and then when you go meet them the thing looks like it went through a cement mixer.
I definitely would never get a non nexus android phone again including the S3, I would rather go back to using an iPhone than do that.
Hello, After finally getting to see the M8 I'm ready to order. I didn't get around to the M7 and have regretted it. I'm kind of stuck at which one I should get. I have AT&T service if it matters. I like to be able to flash roms and sometimes tinker with my own themes etc. Which should I get? Dev edition? I'm not a dev but have always ended up unlocking my bootloaders even when I did nothing with it. I just do it to be doing it. Unlocked? It's nice to know I can take my ball and go play elsewhere when it suits me. Both of these options are the same price so I'm leaning toward Dev edition which is already unlocked. I know I really don't want a carrier phone but I can get it for $199 from AT&T. I have no plans to leave AT&T since they have the best coverage for my area. I just don't like being under contract and HATE carrier branding in and on my devices. Which version is more likely to be supported by updates and roms etc? Any thoughts or opinions are much appreciated.
If you're eligible for an upgrade, then I'd save the $450 and go for the AT&T model. You can unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev, and those are pretty nice savings. Wait to buy a full price phone until next year and use your upgrade while you have it.
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The M7 Dev Edtion got updates pretty quick, I think faster than the GPE did a couple of times. Taking the upgrade depends on what plan you are on. For me, I am no contract Mobile Share so 2 year wont work, it will make the access fee $25 instead of $15. And the ATT Next ends up costing more for the phone than to buy it outright. I too want the M8, but I can't justify the price vs what happens when I sell it. Too big of a hit I am going to wait this time until the used market starts dropping these phones.
ATT next costs more and they take your phone when you get a new one. It's pretty bad
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ATT next costs more and they take your phone when you get a new one. It's pretty bad
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It cost more if you're on anything smaller than 10gb or some legacy plan. Otherwise its cheaper than a 2 year contract on those same plans. Also, just pay the phone off before you upgrade and we don't take it back.
Oh really? Then it's not so bad. I though I read in the T&Cs and some articles that they took your phone regardless of if you paid it off or not.
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I too have this question. What is the difference between the developer edition and the unlocked one. I'm not sure if this matters, but i'm currently living outside the US.. Are both of these alright for international use?
Once I get mine, I'm prob going to end up trying out CM and a few other roms.. and maybe switch between that and sense if i like it. So which one would you recommend? unlocked or dev edition? please explain why.
Doesn't matter. Dev comes bootloader unlocked from the factory, Unlocked you have to do on HTC Dev. I'd get the Dev as it's the same price and you don't have to do anything to unlock it.
Everything else is identical.
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Thinking I might do a Jump and get a One M8, just wondering if anybody has done a Jump and what I can expect. Getting some strange answers from the T-mobile Chat about assessing the trade in value then subtracting the value from the new phone I want. Sounds strange. Also, what should I bring to the store with me as far as chargers/box/etc. Thanks in advance.
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Thinking I might do a Jump and get a One M8, just wondering if anybody has done a Jump and what I can expect. Getting some strange answers from the T-mobile Chat about assessing the trade in value then subtracting the value from the new phone I want. Sounds strange. Also, what should I bring to the store with me as far as chargers/box/etc. Thanks in advance.
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wondering this as well not sure im going with the m8 or the lg g3 id like to know what i would need to return with
The way they explained it to you was probably confusing....
When you get jump you are paying extra to essentially "feel like you are upgrading" faster so they do not lose money. You trade in your phone which then t-mobile takes and pays for no more then half. If you have $400 left on a $600 device you are stuck with the difference (around $100~) to use jump. Then TMO makes money right back off you by selling then again as refurbished. Once that happens you are contracted back to a new EIP with Jump, which if you had to pay a down payment on first device it WILL happen again, So do not expect to get the $0 down snowflake upgrade eligibility if you did not first time around.
Lets just put it this way, You have JUMP! for 6 months with a NOTE 3
Device Contract Cost: $717
JUMP! x6mo: $60
6 Months with 0 Down $179.40 payed off $537.60 Left
Trade-in Value : $300 MAX They "will" pay : $358 (Half)
That is $237.60 left to pay if they honor the rest up to half thing they say.... That is still $179.60 left for you to pay before using JUMP!
So $179 + 60 = $239 for "upgrading" even more if you have to swallow the entire $237
IF YOU USED SWAPPA THOUGH!
6 Months with 0 Down $179.40 payed off $537.60 Left
AVG Selling Price: $450~480 (say it sells at 450) You only have $100 left to pay out to upgrade to a new device after fees
i understand the math im wanting to know what all i have to take back in with me lol
phone yes of course
charger + cord ?
box + all the stuff in it ?
CheesyNutz said:
i understand the math im wanting to know what all i have to take back in with me lol
phone yes of course
charger + cord ?
box + all the stuff in it ?
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phone + cables box does not really matter.
I just moved three phones over from Verizon and had Tmo pay my ETF. They only care about two things: 1) The phone has been factory reset and 2) they take the battery out to check for water damage. That's it. No cords. No boxes. No headphones. Just bring the phone.
Did my Jump this morning, all they wanted to see was that the phone wasnt damaged beyond normal wear and tear. I had a scuff on the lower corner of my N3 and he said that was fine, no real damage. I didnt realize that they had changed Jump after it had been launched. The guy at the store informed me that I had the good plan, and after February of this year the device has to be half paid off so its a losing deal now. They gave me a prepaid shipping label, and a padded envelope to ship my N3 to whoever gets it now. they didnt care about any cables or chargers etc. Looking forward to my new HTC One M8.
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Did my Jump this morning, all they wanted to see was that the phone wasnt damaged beyond normal wear and tear. I had a scuff on the lower corner of my N3 and he said that was fine, no real damage. I didnt realize that they had changed Jump after it had been launched. The guy at the store informed me that I had the good plan, and after February of this year the device has to be half paid off so its a losing deal now. They gave me a prepaid shipping label, and a padded envelope to ship my N3 to whoever gets it now. they didnt care about any cables or chargers etc. Looking forward to my new HTC One M8.
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so wait they ship you your new phone or did you leave with it ?
I left with a new phone and a prepaid envelope to ship my old phone back. New phone was 0 down and tax free (delaware) so it cost me nothing to even jump.
Yeah its gonna cost me nothing not jump but to pay the taxes which is $42 so that depends on a person credit run.
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phil.culler said:
Did my Jump this morning, all they wanted to see was that the phone wasnt damaged beyond normal wear and tear. I had a scuff on the lower corner of my N3 and he said that was fine, no real damage. I didnt realize that they had changed Jump after it had been launched. The guy at the store informed me that I had the good plan, and after February of this year the device has to be half paid off so its a losing deal now. They gave me a prepaid shipping label, and a padded envelope to ship my N3 to whoever gets it now. they didnt care about any cables or chargers etc. Looking forward to my new HTC One M8.
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My jump is coming up and I'm torn between the M8 and The LG G3. Let me know how you like it.
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chuck24 said:
My jump is coming up and I'm torn between the M8 and The LG G3. Let me know how you like it.
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So far I love this phone. I've never had a LG smartphone, don't know that I ever will. It would take something very impressive to sway me I think. The m8 is a fair deal smaller than the note but is well made. I don't miss the screen size. M8 is much easier to sneak out of my pocket when I'm sitting down. M8 supports Google wallet tap and pay so major points there. I don't have to deal with frustrating Samsung TouchWiz. Sense has gotten much nicer lately and I love the blinkfeed. Battery doesn't last quite as long, but is comparable since sense seems to be quit a bit less bloated than TouchWiz is. At the end of the day it all comes down to what you prefer. I had htc phones for a few years and during one upgrade trip they failed to impress me so I started getting Samsung phones. I was basically waiting for HTC to make a home run of a phone and I think this is it.
I had the lg g2 when I was on Verizon. It was OK. Lg ui is similar to touchwiz. Quite frankly I'm tired of touch wiz so I might go ahead and pick up the M8
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I had the lg g2 when I was on Verizon. It was OK. Lg ui is similar to touchwiz. Quite frankly I'm tired of touch wiz so I might go ahead and pick up the M8
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Sense is quite a bit nicer that it used to be when the HTC my touch devices were around.
Just wondering. Why are so many of you buying from Verizon & BestBuy instead of Google?
You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader. So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
I'm sure there is something I'm missing though, so help me understand please.
Are the payment plan options the same? If so that might be one reason. I have Verizon because that's what my employer (who pays for the phone and the bill) uses.
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Believe it or not, not everyone needs a bootloader unlocked these days. My days of tinkering with Android are over as I feel Android is better than ever. It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
It was also cheaper to purchase from Verizon for a new 2 year cobtract
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I personally ordered mine from Verizon due to my work account, and also don't care about root or unlocked boot loaders since I haven't needed either in several years. That being said I also believe many people have not been buying directly from Google because Google hasn't been able to keep them in stock. Which of course also implies that many people are buying them from Google, lol.
Best Buy is cheaper with a 2 year agreement ($299.99) as well as a 24 month installment ($31 a month), for 32GB version.
Also, best buy is giving a $100 gift card, which you can do whatever you want with. (resell it, use it, etc).
If you are only keeping the phone for two years, and don't care about updates after that, then its probably a better route. After two years, you are SOL for getting an up to date OS.
I had the note 7....the last return I just upgraded to the pixel xl. In exchange So....through Verizon it was.
Its an economic decision for me. In Germany I'll get the Device from T-Mobile Germany for 179€ (around 197 US$) for the renewal of my contract - I think this ist much better than the 1097€ direct from Google. The only downside is that it will have a locked bootloader...I'm still hoping someone finds a way to unlock the bootloaders of the Devices wich doesnt come directly from Google.
I ordered mine from Verizon. I haven't rooted a phone in a long time so locked or unlocked bootloader doesn't really matter for me.
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You do realize the phones not purchased from Google will have a locked bootloader.
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I have my phone rooted for Tasker and Xposed, but the Verizon phone can effectively be considerably cheaper right now.
So why would you buy from Verizon or BestBuy instead of Google, who has the same price and you can use either phones on Verizon if you so choose to do so.
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Best Buy will currently give a $100 gift card if you don't want a new line, a $200 gift card for a new line, another $25 for a sign-up will be available after the pre-order is over, and it can be done with monthly payments to allow porting out or cancelling the line. Verizon has phone trades that total $200-$300, which is done through reduced monthly payments, and my Razr M qualified for $200. Some people have other options on Verizon. Google does not offer similar sort of ways to essentially reduce the phone's cost at this time.
I don't want to say ya'll are dumb, but I kind of feel this way.
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Personally I question the idea of paying iPhone 7 prices, and since I'm not interested in the VR headset, that's basically what initial Google store customers are doing. As much as I like what Tasker can do with root, I'm not sure it's worth giving up automatic updates and effectively spending another $175 that I could have with $225 in Best Buy gift cards. If it turns out that there are limitations on the Verizon phones for anything other than the bootloader unlock, I'll probably change my opinion, but at this time it looks like Google's bottom-line price is considerably higher than what is possible at Verizon.
Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Buying it as a contract renewal over Deutsche Telekom is way cheaper for me, especially because I work there and get a monthly discount on the main contract.
I have to 29,95€ monthly instead of 64,95€ and get the Pixel XL 128 GB for 279,95€ on time fee.
But even the phone for my wife is way cheaper. I paid 19,95€ for here family card without a phone before, now we upgraded it to a contract with phone to 29,95€ a month and also 279,95€ for the small Pixel 32 GB.
Yes, I would also love to have a unlockable bootloader and instant updates from Google but after not rooting phones for a couple of years I will get along with it.
I wanted the one from the google store but didn't feel like waiting for it. I would like to have the bootloader unlocked just for the option but i haven't had time or need to mess with rooting and custom roms, so just having pure android is perfect for me. So for me it made sense to just order from Verizon, everyone has different needs or reasons and i would say for 90% of the people buying this phone has no need to ever unlock the bootloader or even know much about that world of roms and rooting. I thinks its a stretch to insinuate people are dumb for having a choice and choosing one over the other
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Troll. Glad you like your OP3. I'm sure there are plenty people on the OP3 threads that agree with you and would love to hear your comments.
I ordered from Verizon because I was able to trade in an old phone for monthly device credit. It should save me $100-200 depending on how long I stay on Verizon DPP. I preordered one from the Google Play Store as well. I don't plan on opening the box from the play store unless the Verizon model upsets me and needs to be returned.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
Buying it directly from Verizon because
1) My job will be paying for it
2) I feel once I have stock Android I don't really need to have root or an unlocked bootloader.
3) Don't have to wait until it comes back in stock via the playstore.
Major discount through employee. 419 vs 869 for xl 128gb and plus availability. Still waiting though as I want to see if anyone cracks that Verizon bootloader within the first month.
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Whats the point of buying two then? Everything about the Verizon version is the same except for boot loader.....
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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It is unfortunate the OP feels that I am dumb because everyone doesn't agree with his way of thinking...
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I regret saying it the way I did.
I don't think you're dumb at all.
XDA is all about development, I guess I'm still surprised when there are people here who don't care about flashing ROM's or backing up in TWRP and even some who apparently don't care about root any longer.
If I didn't care about flashing ROM's (or root), I'd be on a S7 Edge right now.
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I am planning on keeping the Verizon Pixel because it is cheaper for me. As more reviews and info come out that is ACTUALLY reputable, I want to be able to return it to Verizon within the first 2 weeks if I decide there are significant differences between the Verizon version and the Google Play version. If I do that, I want to have the Google Play store Pixel in a box ready for me to switch over. This way I also get to take advantage of the Daydream VR, no matter which device I return.
Since the announcement on October 4th, there has not been any real credible information about the Pixel. Everything has been "so and so said this... Don't buy the Verizon version... etc." Then every Android blog site just blindly regurgitates what was said as if it was real news. NO ONE fact checks. Some CSR at Verizon who doesn't know what a freaking bootloader even is said something, then everyone freaks out and android headlines and forums go crazy. Then someone at Google says something else and everyone takes that as the truth. Does anyone even look at where the info came from? The only group I believe at all at this time is Google Pixel team. If they didn't say it or someone cannot show me in a video with their phone in their hand, I'm not going to believe it.
As long as I am confident that the Verizon pixel will get updates straight from Google when Google promises (just like what I'm used to with Nexus), I don't see a convincing reason not to go with Verizon. I would like the ability to unlock the bootloader so that I can flash the factory images if that promise is not kept. With every new version of Android, I find less need to try custom roms. With what I have seen from 7.1, I don't think I will even have the urge.
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So much this right here. They said this about the Verizon N6 also. That everything would be locked down and look what happened. Nothing was locked down at all. I ordered the Verizon Pixel XL because of this also and i dont really need root anymore. If i am able to root its a plus but not a deal breaker for me.
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Purely inventory for me. Google shipments are a month or more out. They won't even take my money to pre-order it. VZW device I can have in 3 days.
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Yes, I also am grumpy and pissed at google for messing up the "orders / pre-orders". Year after year, they keep screwing up on the first step. They "could" have manufactured an extra 50, 000 and it would not have hurt their economics and it would have greatly helped their public image. Did the 'Note 7' burn put a snag in things ?
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What if the "big and detailed" reviews start coming in and it shows a narley wart about the phone ? ? ? My biggest, desired attribute is the big leap in the camera ( camcorder ? ) area . . .