Hello!
So, whatever video I try to run via Youtube app, the maximum quality is always 480p. Is this a ROM/kernel/app issue or is our device limited by hardware?
480p is often good enough, but recently I've been looking into 360° videos and the resolution just doesn't cut it.
I've tried the modded .apk here on XDA and some alternatives, but none of them seem to allow watching of 360° videos.
Is there an easy fix (I've seen people mention editing of build.prop)? Or is there a decent alternative?
xWhiskey said:
Hello!
So, whatever video I try to run via Youtube app, the maximum quality is always 480p. Is this a ROM/kernel/app issue or is our device limited by hardware?
480p is often good enough, but recently I've been looking into 360° videos and the resolution just doesn't cut it.
I've tried the modded .apk here on XDA and some alternatives, but none of them seem to allow watching of 360° videos.
Is there an easy fix (I've seen people mention editing of build.prop)? Or is there a decent alternative?
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Yeah the problem is with the youtube app itself on boot it detects your phones resolution (in this case 560p by default) and rounds it down to nearest youtube res (in this case 480p). To get around this first make sure youtube is fully closed then install an app called screen shift off the playstore. Use the resolution you want (1080p 30 fps max) and then youtube should detect that when you open it and make that your limit
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Oh Unrelated we both have the same phone history (xperia x8 --> xperia go --> gs4 mini) #sorelatable
Xmaster24 said:
Yeah the problem is with the youtube app itself on boot it detects your phones resolution (in this case 560p by default) and rounds it down to nearest youtube res (in this case 480p). To get around this first make sure youtube is fully closed then install an app called screen shift off the playstore. Use the resolution you want (1080p 30 fps max) and then youtube should detect that when you open it and make that your limit
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Oh Unrelated we both have the same phone history (xperia x8 --> xperia go --> gs4 mini) #sorelatable
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It worked, thanks! But this really goes to show a layer of bad programming - I mean if the phone is capable, is there some valid reasoning behind limiting the resolution?
Ah, yes... the old X8 Can't say I miss it much now. Gotta hand it to it though - survived 5 years with no damage whatsoever save for the battery change. True survivor
xWhiskey said:
It worked, thanks! But this really goes to show a layer of bad programming - I mean if the phone is capable, is there some valid reasoning behind limiting the resolution?
Ah, yes... the old X8 Can't say I miss it much now. Gotta hand it to it though - survived 5 years with no damage whatsoever save for the battery change. True survivor
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yeah my X8 was perfectly fine just felt alot like a brick thought especially when I got my xperia go at only 10m thickness compared to the 15 on the x8 great first android phone thought.
Yeah the main reason is that many phone are "capable" of higher resolutions but that would be 1 a waste of battery and resources and 2 not all phones can smoothly do those resolutions. If they unlocked the resolutions to whatever the phone was capable rather than its actual resolution loads of people would be complaining about **** battery life and lag of hell. They just took the easy route and avoided that rather than testing each phone independently through a benchmark or such. Dunno why they round down the resolution it would make more sense to round up so the full screenspace is used but I guess its kind of samsungs fault for using such a wonky resolution on this phone
Xmaster24 said:
yeah my X8 was perfectly fine just felt alot like a brick thought especially when I got my xperia go at only 10m thickness compared to the 15 on the x8 great first android phone thought.
Yeah the main reason is that many phone are "capable" of higher resolutions but that would be 1 a waste of battery and resources and 2 not all phones can smoothly do those resolutions. If they unlocked the resolutions to whatever the phone was capable rather than its actual resolution loads of people would be complaining about **** battery life and lag of hell. They just took the easy route and avoided that rather than testing each phone independently through a benchmark or such. Dunno why they round down the resolution it would make more sense to round up so the full screenspace is used but I guess its kind of samsungs fault for using such a wonky resolution on this phone
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Eh, at least an option to test it would be nice, together with a warning that comes with it. But this trick does work - I've found that if you first stretch the resolution, then run the Youtube app, and put the default resolution back, Youtube still remembers it up to 1080p until you do a reboot. The videos look really great now but you do have a point with the battery :good:
Thanks for the help!
xWhiskey said:
Eh, at least an option to test it would be nice, together with a warning that comes with it. But this trick does work - I've found that if you first stretch the resolution, then run the Youtube app, and put the default resolution back, Youtube still remembers it up to 1080p until you do a reboot. The videos look really great now but you do have a point with the battery :good:
Thanks for the help!
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Yeah it only checks resolution on app boot up so as long as it stays in the background the resolution should stick. Yeah an option would be nice but effort. 720p and 1080p should look about the same apart from the Antialiasing factor so less jagged edges I guess?!
Download App Settings module from xposed installer
and do following setting to Youtube App
DPI : 180
Font Scale : 85
Screen DP 800x1280
it will allow 720p playback
this setting will do changes in Youtube app only
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Is it just a horrible camera or is it something that can be fixed through software? I have 7 friends with evo's we will all put up $50/ea or so some im sure will pay more to the developers paypal account if we can get better picture quality on the front and back cameras.... Please we are begging ANYONE who can do it i will pay the bounty to.
You would probably have better luck spending that $50 on photography lessons or buying some decent post-processing software. Firmware isn't going to make you or your friends any better photgraphers.
I used my Evo while on vacation, and a good quality point and shoot. Both cameras took equally great pictures. Try to limit the use of the zoom, as it doesn't turn out well.
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as a former pro photographer. (not tooting my horn, just explaining)
QUALITY comes from both the photographer and the camera. More megapixels doesnt mean better QUALITY. it means larger IMAGE. you want better QUALITY get a larger SENSOR, notice the words in caps here people.
Some facts about the camera, from what i can tell by use, not spec sheets, if someone wants to provide one that'd be great, i didnt find one, but i didnt look too hard.
Its a telezoom lens, meaning it has focal length (mm #) greater (AFAICT) than that of the human eye. minimum focus distance is about 6-8" and its got a digital zoom (bleh).
Digital zoom for those that dont know will crop out part of the photo and enlarge the rest, digitally. Which is fine up to a point, after this point you end up with pixelation and bleh images.
As for taking better pictures, go read some rules on composition (the rule of thirds) and if its your cup of tea color scheme and color interaction.
Ive taken some nice photos with this camera. Just a nice rooftop with some desaturation. BAM
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i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality
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i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality
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who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.
nenn said:
who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.
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Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...
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Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...
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the best resource to learn how to change those settings honestly is your camera manual. the next best resource to learn how they work, is to play with them.
a good book will teach you the basics. The Photographers handbook 3rd Edition is the book i used and it will teach you a ton about manual settings and basic SLR/dSLR usage. not to mention film development and i think printing technique.
I leave the iso on 100 all the time (less grain), and toggle back and forth on WB, daytime for outside pics and auto for everything else.
i have no problem with the camera i toy with the settings and take some really good photos with my camera !
not sure what people are *****ing about
Also maybe a higher class memory card
I'll have to agree with the OP. The camera on the Evo is really a let down. They got us excited with the 8 megapixel hype but it really was a let down. Same thing with the camera on the Hero. Honestly I think my Pre takes clearer pictures. It's not even in the same class as the iPhone 4 and this is coming from somebody who has bashed it since day one, but after looking at some pics and videos taken from my friend's iPhone I was literally blown away. Couldn't believe they came from a phone and not a expensive digital camera. HTC dropped the ball in that department.
Iphone has a better screen, have y'all tried cm roms, his camera app is way better than sense
im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...
My mistake his video camera app is better, there's people working on it I'm sure, I don't think its too bad myself
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im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...
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No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.
The camera is that bad? Really?
Here's a pic I took at Niagara Falls:
http://tinypic.com/m/be99qq/3
I'm FAR from a photographer, but some of the pics I get are at least as good as an entry level point and shoot - which is more than I expected out of it.
Some tips I have:
-make sure you are holding the phone still so the autofocus can adjust properly.
-after you hit the shutter button, make sure you hold still until it's really done taking the picture otherwise you may blur the image
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No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.
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Where do you see ISO?
my top config button displays Focus Mode and Exposure.
I'm also on CM6 nightlies
Thanks
That menu scrolls down.
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Scroll down inside that setting box, there are tons of settings inside that top box...
I posted a video showing how to increase display resolution on Galaxy S II. I'm running at 1200 x 720 and looks great. I did it on my T-mobile SGSII, but I would think that it would work the same way on the Epic 4G Touch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPPuEbXwOF4
There are a issues with a few stock apps, so make sure to watch the whole thing if you can, as I demonstrate everything I've run into so far.
p.s. For rooted phones only and even though process is ultra simple, don't hold me responsible if you mess up your phone
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Looks nice. How did you do this?
locoboi187 said:
Looks nice. How did you do this?
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Watch the video
Super cool, however the only reason I'd do this is for my phone to be even super sexy-er. However, due to the broken apps/stock dialer looking odd + applications drawer comes out very odd, this just makes my phone feel crappy.
Thanks for the great find though, still looking for one that does everything right.
locoboi187 said:
Looks nice. How did you do this?
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App is called LCD Resoution. Find it in Market. Slide slider to the left to increase resolution and vice versa.
Allen K said:
Watch the video
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Lol i didnt even see that there. Thanks
rpnunez said:
Super cool, however the only reason I'd do this is for my phone to be even super sexy-er. However, due to the broken apps/stock dialer looking odd + applications drawer comes out very odd, this just makes my phone feel crappy.
Thanks for the great find though, still looking for one that does everything right..
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Fair enough, although issues are very minor and most people I know don't use stock launcher and even get rid of touchwiz entirely..
Lcd resolution is cool but its not worth it for me because of the stock apps that look tiny. It would be cool if someone made a rom that scaled the stock apps when using lcd resolution.
Someone needs to create a ROM with TouchWiz 720p from the Galaxy Note and include LCD Resolution.
That would be amazing.
160 dpi FTW!
So far I'm liking it. The email app is a little funky. Changing font size helped but the email app's homepage is still funky. Anyone know where to fix font size in that APK? I could not find it.
I'm using the 1200x720 with Launcherpro. Some widget placement and sizing is a little weird, seen that before on other phones when you play with density. For the most part, works great.
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160 dpi FTW!
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Yeah, but at least it looks great. This is one of those cases where life hands you lemons and you make lemonade.
i don't think we need a 10 minute video to learn how to change dpi.
Damn and I was hoping for a parody song....
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i don't think we need a 10 minute video to learn how to change dpi.
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My friend, this video is clearly not for you. I'm not teaching how to do it, I'm showing what it looks like and why you might want to do it and why not. This video is also for people who haven't bought the SGS2 yet and are on the fence because 800x480 on a 4.5" display for many isn't good enough. Also for those who haven't rooted yet and can't try it for themselves. I apologize if I've wasted your time.
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My friend, this video is clearly not for you. I'm not teaching how to do it, I'm showing what it looks like and why you might want to do it and why not. This video is also for people who haven't bought the SGS2 yet and are on the fence because 800x480 on a 4.5" display for many isn't good enough. Also for those who haven't rooted yet and can't try it for themselves. I apologize if I've wasted your time.
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Allen, don't take it personal, remember it's xda you're dealing with here. (not tw's forum... I personally found your video helpful and gave me an idea on what to expect. Thanks
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Will running at a lower dpi than 720p fix some of the alignment issues?
Is everything easily reversible?
[email protected] spongebob.... good finding.. thanks for the video. I gotta try it out.
tried it, seems to work. tho i'm thinking it just scales down 1200x720 down to LCD's stock 800x480 for displaying on phone's LCD, effectively missing the whole point of 720p. of course, that's a hardware limitation so we can't get around that
the real trick comes in when you're using it over HDMI, which i tested and it does work well. one thing i wasnt able to tell was whether my monitor shows the 1200x720 scaled down to stock 800x480 and then upscaled to 1080i image or whether it was showing the actual 1200x720 scaled up to 1080i image. if its the 2nd then i would LOVE someone to write an app/kernel that changes dpi to make phone's UI be 1920x1080 streamed pixes-for-pixel to a 1080p tv when using HDMI and then when i'm back to normal it would revert dpi to show the normal 800x480. *true* 1080p ui over HDMI + bluetooth mouse/keyboard support = ultimate portable device!
edit: taking screenshots at both stock and various resolutions produce 800x480 PNG... so yep, seems like it just scales down high resolution down to stock
OMG!! Allen K Thanks for the info... I fix the APPs that had an issue witht hat resolution now im rocking 1200x720 everything looks amazing. I dont really think I can go back to stock
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tried it, seems to work. tho i'm thinking it just scales down 1200x720 down to LCD's stock 800x480 for displaying on phone's LCD, effectively missing the whole point of 720p. of course, that's a hardware limitation so we can't get around that
the real trick comes in when you're using it over HDMI, which i tested and it does work well. one thing i wasnt able to tell was whether my monitor shows the 1200x720 scaled down to stock 800x480 and then upscaled to 1080i image or whether it was showing the actual 1200x720 scaled up to 1080i image. if its the 2nd then i would LOVE someone to write an app/kernel that changes dpi to make phone's UI be 1920x1080 streamed pixes-for-pixel to a 1080p tv when using HDMI and then when i'm back to normal it would revert dpi to show the normal 800x480. *true* 1080p ui over HDMI + bluetooth mouse/keyboard support = ultimate portable device!
edit: taking screenshots at both stock and various resolutions produce 800x480 PNG... so yep, seems like it just scales down high resolution down to stock
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yeah, theres no way to actually change the real resolution to anything higher than native res. its hardware based.. the only way to get a higher res panel, would be well..to put a higher res panel in it. Software cant add pixels to hadrware.
I think its great that he posted a video showing what the differences look like for anyone on the fence though. no need to flame the OP, hes just trying to contribute fellas
I just got the Note 2 yesterday, upgraded from S3. I'm very happy with the phone, but the resolution is a disappointment.
From an article comparing the two:
The measurement of the display for the Galaxy S3 is a length of 136.6mm, width of 70.6mm, and a depth of 8.6mm. The screen size is measured in 4.8-inches with a pixel resolution of 1,280x720 with a 306 pixels per inch (ppi). The Galaxy Note 2 is measured with a longer length of 151.1mm, 80.5 width, and a depth of 9.4mm. The screen is measured at a larger 5.5 inches, but the same pixel resolution and a lower ppi of 267.
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Here's what it feels like: I am used to using a 24" monitor, 1080p. I once got to use a 27" monitor that was the same resolution. I quickly became aware that it really wasn't beneficial. I couldn't put more apps on there, things were just bigger.
So, in the case of this phone, I still see the same amount of App Icons on the desktop (4 across, 5 down). I still see the same amount of twitter posts.
Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it. I ran it on the S2 forever. And there were apps that didn't quite work; the market was horrible. After a month I switched it off, cleared the market data, and realized I had many updates that wouldn't get put on with the right dpi. I've seen issues in the DPI thread.
Not much I can do about it, just wanted to put this out there. I think they could of given us better resolution on this phone. Maybe the Note 3.
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I just got the Note 2 yesterday, upgraded from S3. I'm very happy with the phone, but the resolution is a disappointment.
From an article comparing the two:
Here's what it feels like: I am used to using a 24" monitor, 1080p. I once got to use a 27" monitor that was the same resolution. I quickly became aware that it really wasn't beneficial. I couldn't put more apps on there, things were just bigger.
So, in the case of this phone, I still see the same amount of App Icons on the desktop (4 across, 5 down). I still see the same amount of twitter posts.
Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it. I ran it on the S2 forever. And there were apps that didn't quite work; the market was horrible. After a month I switched it off, cleared the market data, and realized I had many updates that wouldn't get put on with the right dpi. I've seen issues in the DPI thread.
Not much I can do about it, just wanted to put this out there. I think they could of given us better resolution on this phone. Maybe the Note 3.
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Do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993530
you will fall in love all over again
woodsdog said:
Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it.
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Do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993530
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LOL.
Anyway, yes, I agree, the Note 2 should have had at least the same resolution as the Note 1 (not a downgrade!) and higher than the S3. But I'm guessing a pocket 1080 (or whatever) display would make the phone prohibitively expensive. Not to mention you risk people complaining that the text is too small - you can't please everybody. There needs to be a lot more effort put into handling text size on these devices so that various needs can be met. Everything on the Note 2 is ridiculously oversized for me still even with the font set to "Tiny".
I also miss having 5 icons across on the stock launcher from the Note 1, which is sort of a related issue.
But I still think the Note 2 is the best smartphone I've ever used, by a long shot.
that's the power of AMOLED. they always have poor resolution. this is the only real downfall to samsung devices. ):
coming from an S3 I have been happy with the screen, bump up the font size in chrome and on twitter and it's a joy to use, and videos do look amazing!
I'll take the slightly lower resolution with a non-pentile screen. Worth the tradeoff, IMO.
I think resolution is good to me. I plan on messing with dpi anyways though.
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i think you are upset at the screen not being wider like the note 1 because the new DNA has 1080p and it still shows the same amount of info a 720p screen does... i think the problem isn't the ppi it seems like u just wanted the screen to do more then show the same info but bigger with a 1080 screen u could have put more info on the screen but how small would u have to make everything to do so is the real question.... but for me i love the note and the screens ppi because its just below the ppi a human eye can see and it still IMO the best phone out period.
Just found this exdialer if you lower dpi and dont like the small stock dialer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
I am happy with the phone, let me be clear, it's fantastic.
However, it seems like there can be a sweet spot between icons/fonts too big (how I feel it is now) and too small. I am SURE there are technical limitations to this, but I would expect Samsung could figure it out. They are REALLY good at making screens with different resolutions!
At this point, nothing is changing, but let me throw out a few more things to help clarify my stance and my wish list. That's all this is at this time, a wish list.
On the S3, I was very happy with the icon & font size to screen size ratio (Is this what PPI is?). In my opinion, it is perfect. I think Samsung feels that way too, it's their flagship.
Here's how I think of it. The S3 is 70.6mm across. If each icon takes up let's say 15mm on the S3 (totally made up these numbers) it looks good. Thats 4 icons across plus space in-between them.
So, in my mind I would think that on the Note 2, they would take that same size 15mm icons, and spread it across the 80mm wide screen. That would look very good. Instead, they made the icons 18mm big, and it looks big and awkward.
As a consumer, I think this is a reasonable request. I REALLY hate to say this, but AppIe got this right on the Iphone 5. They added an extra row of icons, keeping the icons all the same size (yeah, they made a really awkward resolution for it, not defending that all. If I cared st all about the Iphone 5, I would have prefered wider & taller, not just taller). I feel they cheapened the experience of the Note 2 with the same resolution as the S3.
I will get used to it just putting my opinion out there. I have been such a Samsung Fanboy lately, but I still feel I need to point out where they could do better.
Cant please everyone. Having upgraded today from an og Evo4g, all I can say is wow.
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There was a touch wiz launcher on here but dont know if it will work with new rom or not ....it was 5 x 6
I have it let me flash and see if it works but it was on here cant find thread now though ..If it works I can put on drop box for you
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Short and sweet, description explains it all. Tell em what youd like to see changed on the camera such as quality, sound quality, length of recording or are u happy with it.
NOTHING! The camera is amazing!
Rich Shwe said:
NOTHING! The camera is amazing!
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then your gonna love what i have in store in the next hour.. lol
13 minutes left. Let's have it!
The camera truly is a huge improvement over the Note 3 (and possibly better than the Note 2 if its even equal it is better since it has more pixels)
Just took some night shots tonight. WOW what an improvement.
Here is the Note 3 No Flash a "relatively bright" nighttime scene
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Here is the Note 3 with Flash
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and Here is the Note 4 NO flash. it came out so nice I did not even bother with a "flash" shot.
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and there is a hell of a lot more to it than just light gathering too. Download the full size and look at the actual achieved resolution and quality and sharpness.
Stock. no modifications raw images from both units direct to imgur.
HUGE improvement. Finally
you want to REALLY see a difference? ZOOM in on the license plate frame on the pickup truck on the left edge of the images.
Remarkable improvement.
The flash note 3 image is "readable" but still far far from as good as the Note 4.
and the Note 4 is not nearly so aggressive with the "sharpening" as the Note 3 is (it does not need to be)
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BTW. what do I want to see improved? IE what sucks about the camera? what I want changed?
the god damned burst mode is still "crippled" in the Note 4.
it needs its OWN MODE OPTION so there is NO delay. TOUCH the button and BAM instantly starts the rapid fire burst. (30frames now too)
they still have it "combined" with standard pic taking so you have to hold the button for a second before it decides OK you want burst and starts bursting. I can't capture rockets with that 1sec delay. The danged things are 1000 feet up in 1 second.
The only other thing (minor) that I don't like is that the highest resolution is 16mp 16:9
to get 4:3 I have to downgrade to 12mp. so the sensor itself is "shorter" vertically (notice how much more of the building roofs the N3 gets)
Would have been nice to have 18 or 20mp 4:3 and 16mp 16:9
Yes every photo I've taken is rich in detail i took a pic of my hand and could see every tiny hair on it. This phone is truly a beast
Yeah, don't quite understand myself why it's not available to choose a larger 4:3 aspect ratio, I'd like to see that if the sensor allows it. Though I feel like it should
My guess is that the sensor itself is native 16:9
the Note 3 sensor was native 4:3 the 16:9 was "cropped" which is why it was a lower resolution. (which is why you should NEVER use it since you can crop it yourself later if you wish)
The note 4 sensor appears to be native 16:9
Rich Shwe said:
NOTHING! The camera is amazing!
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nerys71 said:
13 minutes left. Let's have it!
The camera truly is a huge improvement over the Note 3 (and possibly better than the Note 2 if its even equal it is better since it has more pixels)
Just took some night shots tonight. WOW what an improvement.
Here is the Note 3 No Flash a "relatively bright" nighttime scene
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http://i.imgur.com/fdW25jh.jpg
Here is the Note 3 with Flash
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http://i.imgur.com/hTMkos3.jpg
and Here is the Note 4 NO flash. it came out so nice I did not even bother with a "flash" shot.
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http://i.imgur.com/gGMiN75.jpg
and there is a hell of a lot more to it than just light gathering too. Download the full size and look at the actual achieved resolution and quality and sharpness.
Stock. no modifications raw images from both units direct to imgur.
HUGE improvement. Finally
you want to REALLY see a difference? ZOOM in on the license plate frame on the pickup truck on the left edge of the images.
Remarkable improvement.
The flash note 3 image is "readable" but still far far from as good as the Note 4.
and the Note 4 is not nearly so aggressive with the "sharpening" as the Note 3 is (it does not need to be)
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BTW. what do I want to see improved? IE what sucks about the camera? what I want changed?
the god damned burst mode is still "crippled" in the Note 4.
it needs its OWN MODE OPTION so there is NO delay. TOUCH the button and BAM instantly starts the rapid fire burst. (30frames now too)
they still have it "combined" with standard pic taking so you have to hold the button for a second before it decides OK you want burst and starts bursting. I can't capture rockets with that 1sec delay. The danged things are 1000 feet up in 1 second.
The only other thing (minor) that I don't like is that the highest resolution is 16mp 16:9
to get 4:3 I have to downgrade to 12mp. so the sensor itself is "shorter" vertically (notice how much more of the building roofs the N3 gets)
Would have been nice to have 18 or 20mp 4:3 and 16mp 16:9
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Rich Shwe said:
Yes every photo I've taken is rich in detail i took a pic of my hand and could see every tiny hair on it. This phone is truly a beast
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Try this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917501
Joey121215 said:
Yeah, don't quite understand myself why it's not available to choose a larger 4:3 aspect ratio, I'd like to see that if the sensor allows it. Though I feel like it should
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I try to check it out
kevinrocksman said:
I try to check it out
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Thanks man, always loved your stuff. Even back in the EVO days
not very good images for a comparison shot but one is 96% and the other is 100%. Difference is 15KB (granted not much color in the shot)
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A little disclaimer: I'm not entirely sure this is the right place for the post, if it's not any mod feel free to move it I found a bunch of similar posts under this section after a quick search so I decided to post it here; once that said let's move on. After some months of using the HTC 10 and after months of not having any accidents, I finally decided to send it to SAT to fix some scratches the phone has on the back and some light bleeding on the left side of the panel after a drop. Knowing the process could take weeks, I decided to buy a spare phone and I bought a Galaxy S6 which I got for just $275. I've passed the following days synching, installing apps and using the phone while I was ready to send my HTC 10 and in the process I've noticed something I hadn't and I probably wouldn't until you use two phones side by side: the HTC 10 has some is underperformed in most of tasks where in the past it used to excel for its optimization.
First I noticed something as simple as facebook app was a ton smoother on the Galaxy S6 than on the HTC 10, running both the exact same version (103.0.0.20.72) not talking about things opening fast which is not the case most of the time, but losing a lot of frames while doing actions like opening reactions panel which sometimes stutters and looks like "in slow motion" on the 10 at the point I need to close the app from RAM here and there to keep it smooth which is not the case on the Galaxy S6 and other stuff like reactions flickering while playing gifs or videos and not happening again on the S6.
At first I just thought "meh facebook it's a poorly optimized app so must be the isolated case" but then I noticed a HUGE difference in graphics performance as well, when I thought the Adreno 530 was better overall compared to the Mali on the Galaxy S6. These are both screenshots taken on the HTC 10 and the Galaxy S6 running Need for Speed: No Limits on the same car and similar race conditions. This is the HTC 10 ss:
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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And this is the Galaxy S6 counterpart:
There's a loss in definition for both while looking at the screenshots on bigger displays of course, it was less notorious on the devices screen but it was there and still was obvious. Just look at the lines on the back cover of the car. Then I thought it was some specific random failure on the renders, but the same happens over and over, look at this pic of the LaFerrari on the start line, HTC 10:
Now the Galaxy S6 screenshot, same race, same car, same weather condition:
There's a lot of differences: the brake lines, the car's plate, the wheels, the car hoops...
Honestly I didn't even know where to start looking for answers, so here we go: is there any limitation on the graphics card on the HTC 10 stock firmware making it look that inferior? Do I need another factory reset (I've had to a couple times after weekly security patch updates so far), is this improved with custom ROMs? Is my device faulty? I don't know how to feel about this right now, I guess I'm just shocked. Just in case I disabled the screen lowering resolution on the HTC 10 and did reset the device and wait for it to completely cool down before running the game and taking the screenshots
Thanks for your time and any advice you can give to the subject
I would definitely start with a fresh, clean wipe/install (RUU if you can) to compare apples-to-apples.
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I would definitely start with a fresh, clean wipe/install (RUU if you can) to compare apples-to-apples.
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I guess you're right, I need to backup all of my content anyway to send the phone to SAT, I'll check again later on
It looks to me like the game is still running in a lower resolution, based on that screenshot quality. Did you double check afterwards to see if its still disabled in the HTC Boost app? Sometimes things get re-enabled for me when they update.
As far as speed, I came from an S7 Edge and a Note 7. The HTC has way less judder and frame drops in day to day use, especially in Facebook. If yours is doing that I think there may be something wrong. I'd do a factory reset.
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It looks to me like the game is still running in a lower resolution, based on that screenshot quality. Did you double check afterwards to see if its still disabled in the HTC Boost app? Sometimes things get re-enabled for me when they update.
As far as speed, I came from an S7 Edge and a Note 7. The HTC has way less judder and frame drops in day to day use, especially in Facebook. If yours is doing that I think there may be something wrong. I'd do a factory reset.
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Same here. I mainly use the oblong S7 as a paper weight now. I keep a Note 7 handy in case I run out of matches and need to start a fire.
kwolf said:
It looks to me like the game is still running in a lower resolution, based on that screenshot quality. Did you double check afterwards to see if its still disabled in the HTC Boost app? Sometimes things get re-enabled for me when they update.
As far as speed, I came from an S7 Edge and a Note 7. The HTC has way less judder and frame drops in day to day use, especially in Facebook. If yours is doing that I think there may be something wrong. I'd do a factory reset.
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comstockload said:
Same here. I mainly use the oblong S7 as a paper weight now. I keep a Note 7 handy in case I run out of matches and need to start a fire.
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I double and triple checked, the boost app has the check disabled for the game. I guess I'll backup my data, do a factory reset and see what happens after that, I'll be reporting back
well back again, surely took my sweet time long story short? Poor optimization for the phone. The S6 just had a fresh reinstall but after a month of use it began to present the same frame drops on facebook then the 10 had, it's just a facebook app thing. The graphics on the other side didn't improve even after a factory reset on the HTC 10 and the android N update. This is a sample recorded with the same app, same settings on both phones, make sure to load at 720p or 1080p in theater mode to spot the differences easier.
Galaxy S6:
HTC 10 Sample, same race
As you can see, the graphics on the HTC 10 are lower quality, more pixelaton, less details on the ground and surroundings, and so on. So considering hardware wise I don't think Adreno 530 is inferior to Mali T760MP8 I took my sweet time looking for an answer. Looks like the game it's extremely poorly optimized for the HTC 10, but there's a way to mod the game graphics on your own even without root. So after some research and modding the graphics on my own, this is the same race, with the same recording app, same settings, on the HTC 10:
As you can see differences are night and day in terms of texture quality and pixelation. It's just sad some games are that poorly optimized for the HTC 10
Edit: sorry for the bad driving skills, I was more focused on looking at the differences on the graphics than the race itself