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XT1635-01 vs XT1635-02 vs XT1635-03

What are the differences?

scandiun said:
What are the differences?
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Not sure,
Dash 1 is boot locked, Verizon
All others are unlockable, not sure but mostly at least.

The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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EvlSkillz said:
The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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-02 is also sold as single SIM. My US unlocked single SIM is XT1635-02.
Visually it appears there may be contacts for a Sim in slot 2, so it may only be a firmware difference between single and dual Sim -02s. Haven't hunted around fit a teardown video (if there is one) to try to find out. I'd actually benefit from a dual Sim at the moment, but not convinced it's worth the risk of flashing a dual Sim firmware on a single Sim model to try to find out.

dandrumheller said:
-02 is also sold as single SIM. My US unlocked single SIM is XT1635-02.
Visually it appears there may be contacts for a Sim in slot 2, so it may only be a firmware difference between single and dual Sim -02s. Haven't hunted around fit a teardown video (if there is one) to try to find out. I'd actually benefit from a dual Sim at the moment, but not convinced it's worth the risk of flashing a dual Sim firmware on a single Sim model to try to find out.
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What does it say under "About phone" - "Hardware information" last line "Dual SIM"? True or false?
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EvlSkillz said:
What does it say under "About phone" - "Hardware information" last line "Dual SIM"? True or false?
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That line doesn't exist in my "hardware information" menu. NFC is last line.

Here is mine. I'm guessing you don't have dual sim capacity? Hmm...always thought 02 stands for dual sim
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EvlSkillz said:
The 02 is the dual sim version. 03 not sure, I think it is a China version.
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You are right 03 is China version

01 - Verizon (locked)
02 - ROW (Rest Of World)
03 - Chinese variant

Alberto97 said:
01 - Verizon (locked)
02 - ROW (Rest Of World)
03 - Chinese variant
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Hah. TIL ROW stands for rest of world.

Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?

scandiun said:
Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?
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hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.

scandiun said:
Ok, but how do we differentiate between single SIM vs dual SIM, 32GB vs 64GB? Is there any special naming for this?
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However I don't know how to differentiate them... Only when get to the settings I guess...

agaryt said:
hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.
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I didn't know there were a dual SIM version with 64GB. Can you post a picture or screenshot of something?

scandiun said:
I didn't know there were a dual SIM version with 64GB. Can you post a picture or screenshot of something?
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there is picture in my post above yours

agaryt said:
there is picture in my post above yours
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I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.

scandiun said:
I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.
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look at this picture very carefully once more.....
at the top just next to the battery icon.... one card has 4G signal second one 3G .... still don't believe?
well even help desk uk didn't know that such model exists when I phoned them.... and there you are...

scandiun said:
I can see it's 64GB but there no mention to dual sim.
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just to make it clear I attach another picture which states it is dual sim XT1635-03 with 64GB

agaryt said:
just to make it clear I attach another picture which states it is dual sim XT1635-03 with 64GB
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I see thank you very much!

agaryt said:
hi there
I've got two versions. XT1635-02 it is UK dual sim version in my case... ( I was very surprised it is dual sim when it came, I bought it on Motorola UK website..) and I've got XT1635-03 which I bought on aliexpress. It is Chinese dual sim version with 64GB . The latter came with unlocked bootloader for some reason ( box was factory sealed or at least looked like..) and I cannot use Android pay... , however very happy with both.
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Hey i have the chinese dual sim 64 gb version and i have the exact same problem. I haven't received any OTAs, and Moto support tells me my phone has been rooted before! I bought it brand new, and the box was sealed!
Have you received any OTA on your Chinese one?

Are all Mate 20 X Dual Sim?

I know EVR-L29 represents the dual sim model But are there any single sim models?
Reason I ask is, a shop here in the UK is selling one but don’t say if it’s dual sim or not.
Google struggle to finds any mention of a single sim model.
GSMArena shows a global model and and China model.
Thanks.

bigup7 said:
I know EVR-L29 represents the dual sim model But are there any single sim models?
Reason I ask is, a shop here in the UK is selling one but don’t say if it’s dual sim or not.
Google struggle to finds any mention of a single sim model.
GSMArena shows a global model and and China model.
Thanks.
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Don't see any single sim
https://www.frequencycheck.com/brands/huawei?utf8=✓&q[full_name_cont]=Huawei+mate+20+x&commit=Search

rocky272727 said:
Don't see any single sim
https://www.frequencycheck.com/brands/huawei?utf8=✓&q[full_name_cont]=Huawei+mate+20+x&commit=Search
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Perfect. Thanks

Dual SIM with Australian version?

I'm considering getting a fold but I need dual sim capability. Physical sim cards, not esim. I can't find any definitive information about it. Does anyone know?
Thanks.

I don't think there's a dual SIM variant, it's just 1 physical SIM and in some countries an esim

Wooba99 said:
I'm considering getting a fold but I need dual sim capability. Physical sim cards, not esim. I can't find any definitive information about it. Does anyone know?
Thanks.
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I have mine from jbhifi and there is one sim and another is esim.
So gotta deal with it.
Try looking for indian unit. It will have dual sim.

ptlsajan said:
I have mine from jbhifi and there is one sim and another is esim.
So gotta deal with it.
Try looking for indian unit. It will have dual sim.
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Thanks.. that's a pity. I just looked at the UAE website and the Indian website. UAE is Esim too, and the Indian version doesn't even have that unfortunately. Hopefully my provider supports esim soon.

Is the XT2013-4 version dual sim or single sim?

Hi, I spotted the XT2013-4 version of the phone in a store and was wondering if it had dual SIM?
I couldn't find much about that specific version online. It appears some versions are dual sim, some other are not, but couldn't figure out which one.
Thank you

BigBlarg said:
Hi, I spotted the XT2013-4 version of the phone in a store and was wondering if it had dual SIM?
I couldn't find much about that specific version online. It appears some versions are dual sim, some other are not, but couldn't figure out which one.
Thank you
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It may depend on the location. The one I bought from Costco Canada is not dual sim.

Thanks, Costco Canada is where I spotted it.

BigBlarg said:
Thanks, Costco Canada is where I spotted it.
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Same for me, The one I bought from Costco Canada in january 2020 is not dual sim

Need Clarifications on this mess of Model Numbers & eSIM

So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?) Snapdragon confirmedOnly one IMEI
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me

SAO said:
So,
Apparently Samsung implamented the eSIM tech within the S20 family...does anyone have a CLEAR understand of which model has what? Normally techwall has a great description of the different models. But there, not once does it mention eSIM, and only ONCE does it mention Dual Sim (988B/FD).
So (2),
988N -> Korean Exynos SingleSim(?) eSIM(?)
9880 -> normally the HK version with dual sim (the note10+ 9750 is dual sim), but is it? or does it have the eSIM enabled
988U - > US unlocked version normally dual SIM
988B/FD - > Dual SIM Exynos (with eSIM also, so you have the choice to use the 2 physical SIMs or 1 physical & eSIM & sd card)
So my questions is summerized by this :
Which Snapdragon has dual "physical" SIMs and which ones have 1 SIM and 1 eSIM... this is so confusing to me
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They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.

VZTech said:
They all have an esim, its up to samsung, and carrier to enable it though.
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Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?

SAO said:
Thanks for your reply.
as they "all have eSIM"... does that mean they also ALL have two IMEIs? as that is hardware based also i think. As you can see on this video : Sakitech on s20U at 0:27 there is onyl 1 IMEI. Maybe because it's a dummy version?
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It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.

VZTech said:
It wont have 2 imei's until the esim is activated.
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Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.

SAO said:
Gotcha, as i'm getting the 9880 next week, i hope it works with dual ... numbers.
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That one is dual sim, so it will work out of the box

No eSIM
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.

Portair75 said:
according to the global site, in the specs there is NO eSIM on the s20s. But there IS on the zflip.
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wrong
Search for eSIM... but it says "Global Variant"... so i guess the US models won't have them.
This is all very confusing.

I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.

Portair75 said:
I can't post the links cause I'm a new user. But Google for Galaxy s20 specs will get you to the global site. Compare those with the z flip on same site. S20s don't say eSIM. Z flip does.
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Well it's written on their global site :
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SAO said:
Well it's written on their global site :
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Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.

Portair75 said:
Ok strange it is not on the first 2 lines as it is on the z flip.
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Thus my thread... things are not clear.

So which ones have physical dual-sim? Does US model supports 2 nano-sim?

Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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johnwayne27 said:
Us unlocked version never has dual sim. You are thinking internation version
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Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim

hoppy_barzed said:
Thanks.
Sad to be stuck on exynos to get dual-sim
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There are Snapdragon versions with dual SIM.
Usually it's the Hong Kong version.

Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.

eyeatoma said:
Here's a question. Can people who have the same model number but don't have 5G enabled (Indonesia), etc be able to activate it via a firmware upgrade, or through XDA magic? Max Weinbach mentioned that the 5G and non 5G phones are exactly the same.
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Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models

_Dennis_ said:
Possibly, though Samsung may have put some kind of efuse in place and blown them on the non 5G models
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Sorry can you explain what you mean by efuse?
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Apple has had dual radio capability since the XS. (2018)
Kind of ridiculous we don't have it in USA with Samsung. Dual SIM is great, no more toting around two (or more) phones. In the past when they were SMALL it wasn't a problem but pushing 7" screen size, it's an issue. Fortunately my Grip6 belt can handle it!