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Just about an hour ago, I have upgraded my HTC Desire to Froyo 2.2. So I have quickly done a 720p video recording, and compare to iPhone 4.
The result (data taken from QuickTime player):
Movie FPS: HTC Desire (16.37), iPhone 4 (29.54)
Data Rate: HTC Desire (7.42 mbits/sec), iPhone 4 (10.44 mbits/sec)
Yupe. I tested 720p and it is not good.
I don't have iPhone 4, so I cannot compare.
I hope the 480p of HTC Desire is getting better. I prefer 480p if I can get good fps.
Can you test 480p with your tool above?
What about this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmvRSxgtd8
Running at 30 fps
wallieballie said:
What about this clip, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLmvRSxgtd8
Running at 30 fps
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Well, it is running Froyo (r5 MoDaCo), not the stock HTC Froyo...
gogol said:
Yupe. I tested 720p and it is not good.
I don't have iPhone 4, so I cannot compare.
I hope the 480p of HTC Desire is getting better. I prefer 480p if I can get good fps.
Can you test 480p with your tool above?
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The 480p now supports H.264. It looked super smooth from what I did a quick test of.
The 480p seems much better using MPEG4 than H264, in H264 there is more tearing during fast motion and some artifacts.
What a shame. Had high hopes for HTC's 720p implementation
And the same s***e audio too...
Surely the desire has the hardware to support 720p at almost 30fps.
Who does HTC's code for christ sake!
doinbox said:
Surely the desire has the hardware to support 720p at almost 30fps.
Who does HTC's code for christ sake!
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If I record inside with low light my FPS is 12.
Filming outside through a window made it 22FPS.
I am not surprised by the low quality of the camcorder. I kinda expected that. As opposed to doinbox, I don't think the camera of the Desire is capable of 30fps in such high resolutions (especially when I know what it is capable of in lower resolutions). Well, maybe if there are sufficient lightning conditions... Don't know It's already dusk here so I can't test it outside.
kekkle said:
If I record inside with low light my FPS is 12.
Filming outside through a window made it 22FPS.
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But seriously that isnt acceptable. If, lets say, when the desire was first released it was advertised as supporting 720p video recording and you went out and bought it only to find it had poor framerates you would think it was broke. You wouldnt buy a tv that said it could support 1080p video but only at 22fps its ridiculous really. The Desire probably with alot of time and effort could record 1080p at 30fps. But it seems they don't want to spend the time in achieving this.
Which really annoys me!
martintzvetomirov said:
I am not surprised by the low quality of the camcorder. I kinda expected that. As opposed to doinbox, I don't think the camera of the Desire is capable of 30fps in such high resolutions (especially when I know what it is capable of in lower resolutions). Well, maybe if there are sufficient lightning conditions... Don't know It's already dusk here so I can't test it outside.
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The Hardware in the desire is much more powerful than what you would find in a 5 megapixel digital camera that can record 1080p video at 30fps.
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/hddv-pocket-camcorder-digital-video-camera-1080p/
Check this link its a pocket HD camcorder. Im sure it has terrible hardware inside yet it can record 1080p at 30fps. So what would make you think the desire can't do it.
doinbox said:
The Hardware in the desire is much more powerful than what you would find in a 5 megapixel digital camera that can record 1080p video at 30fps.
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I just hope its true If it is then we should expect more from Gingerbread
doinbox said:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/hddv-pocket-camcorder-digital-video-camera-1080p/
Check this link its a pocket HD camcorder. Im sure it has terrible hardware inside yet it can record 1080p at 30fps. So what would make you think the desire can't do it.
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We had to wait till Android 2.2 for us to get 720p. Perhaps it's not the hardware, but the software that is the limitation.
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We had to wait till Android 2.2 for us to get 720p. Perhaps it's not the hardware, but the software that is the limitation.
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That's what I'm saying the hardware does support it but HTC are just not putting the hours into coding for us to get 30+fps.
could a higher class microSD Card possibly make any difference? I'm a bit disappointed myself especially when the picture quality itself is brilliant for a mobile device
I doubt that the FPS problem is CPU related. It's more likely an I/O bottleneck in the camera hardware or driver.
Couldn't it be optics quality related? It is a tiny lens after all, and if we get 22fps in sunlight but 16fps indoors, then surely that implies issues caused by the camera needing a slow shutter speed to cope with low light. I think it's fixed aperture so all it has to work with is shutter speed (and therefore fps) and sensitivity...
@NixC
That could well be the case. However, the amount by which frame rates seem to vary between ROMs and codecs suggests that there might still room for improvement beneath the limiting factor of the optics.
Does anyone know if there is an app/mod that supports recording of 60 fps video at 720/1080p on any model of the zenfone 2? The stock phone does not support recording above 30 fps even though the hardware of the phone supports it as pointed out here, "there’s no [email protected] option even though the Toshiba rear camera supports it".
From some googling it appears the Zenfone 2 uses a Toshiba T4K37 CMOS sensor, which natively supports both 1080p and 720p 60 fps recording.
I looked around the forums already and haven't seen anything about this, has anyone gotten it to work?
I think it's only 30 fps. I'm not sure though
dcduartee said:
I think it's only 30 fps. I'm not sure though
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I'm gonna edit my post, I meant to state that I own a Zenfone 2 and am trying to get 60fps recording working. Thanks for the quick response though!
The problem should be the Intel Z3580 that supports only 30 fps.
marcof93 said:
The problem should be the Intel Z3580 that supports only 30 fps.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does this mean? That the decoding capabilities of the processor don't support 60 fps?
"Intel has surprisingly little information on the video encoding and decoding abilities of the Atom Z3580. Since the CPUs remain at their idle frequency during video playback, it appears the ZenFone 2 uses fixed-function hardware (instead of software decoding which uses the CPUs) for H.264 video decoding, saving power." (From the Tomshardware Review)
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does this mean? That the decoding capabilities of the processor don't support 60 fps?
"Intel has surprisingly little information on the video encoding and decoding abilities of the Atom Z3580. Since the CPUs remain at their idle frequency during video playback, it appears the ZenFone 2 uses fixed-function hardware (instead of software decoding which uses the CPUs) for H.264 video decoding, saving power." (From the Tomshardware Review)
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Exactly, we talked about this when the phone came out 1 year ago, and this was the idea... Asus also added slow motion in Asus camera, but apparently there is no way to increase to 60fps.
marcof93 said:
Exactly, we talked about this when the phone came out 1 year ago, and this was the idea... Asus also added slow motion in Asus camera, but apparently there is no way to increase to 60fps.
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So the short answer is that the hardware actually doesn't support it due to a cpu limitation? To be clear, this means that no app or mod (cyanogenmod etc.) could possibly allow you to take 60 fps video?
Ocman76 said:
To be clear, this means that no app or mod (cyanogenmod etc.) could possibly allow you to take 60 fps video?
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No.
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No.
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Ok... so would you be kind enough to elaborate? The point of this thread is to find out if there is anything I can do to be able to take 60 fps video on an Asus Zenfone 2, so if it is possible do you know how?
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Does anyone know if there is an app/mod that supports recording of 60 fps video at 720/1080p on any model of the zenfone 2? The stock phone does not support recording above 30 fps even though the hardware of the phone supports it as pointed out here, "there’s no [email protected] option even though the Toshiba rear camera supports it".
From some googling it appears the Zenfone 2 uses a Toshiba T4K37 CMOS sensor, which natively supports both 1080p and 720p 60 fps recording.
I looked around the forums already and haven't seen anything about this, has anyone gotten it to work?
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I don't know much about Intel SOC but had a quick look at the zenfone 2 kernel https://github.com/sayeed99/LPGFX_C...rivers/camera/drivers/media/i2c/t4k37/t4k37.h
It seems all that's needed is a custom kernel with the 60fps register added to the video configuration near the end of the file. Alternative is to replace 30 fps register with 60fps and have 1080p video running at 60fps all the time
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defcomg said:
I don't know much about Intel SOC but had a quick look at the zenfone 2 kernel https://github.com/sayeed99/LPGFX_C...rivers/camera/drivers/media/i2c/t4k37/t4k37.h
It seems all that's needed is a custom kernel with the 60fps register added to the video configuration near the end of the file. Alternative is to replace 30 fps register with 60fps and have 1080p video running at 60fps all the time
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Great, so has anyone tried this before? I'm sure if the phone has been out over a year now there must have been some attempts right?
the CPU supports 1080p 60 encode
I can't post link here.
google image with z3560
you can see even merrifield(dual-core atom uses same architecture of z35xx)
supports 1080p 60 encode
maybe another limit exists
(eg : thermal,battery(power) or data link bandwidth between camera and board)
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Ok... so would you be kind enough to elaborate? The point of this thread is to find out if there is anything I can do to be able to take 60 fps video on an Asus Zenfone 2, so if it is possible do you know how?
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Probably other components of hardware/software on our device that prevent the function from being available.
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Just saw a video posted by "pocketnow" on LG G7 camera review. At 4:57 mark, he said there were new addition(960 fps slow mo, 4k 60fps) from OTA updates since his original phone review 2 months ago. Is it true cuz i cant find it on web.
Video link- Hmm, seems i need 10 posts. Better PM me if u cant find on YT, or just search on YT and you'll have it.
Saw the video and yeah I can confirm that the phone can shoot 4k at 60 fps with the new OTA update but I just tried recording a slow motion video and it's just at 240 fps and I can't seem to find the 960 fps option.
You mean the video of Jaime Rivera? He doesn't know what he is talking about, the g7 doesn't have 960fps at 720p, just tested and it's 240fps.
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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That's because your phone is not on the last Ota update
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
LameMonster82 said:
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
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Damn, so not even a software update can turn it on? That's sad.
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
bootruss said:
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
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Personally I prefer 4k 60fps. From what I recorded it seems stable and I have no problems with it.
Edit: here's a link of what the camera module is capable of: https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&sour...FjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3vRFp9OMzb9J76fPbULXws
Hi everyone,
I know that Netflix recently sent a list of all compatible phones to support 4k HDR and the Note 10 was listed.
What is weird is the Note 10+ wasn't specifically listed and at the moment no hd on my phone.
Actually looks really bad like when I was watching movies on my PSP back in the day.
YouTube in 4k is just gorgeous so not a problem with the screen.
Can someone confirm this is also the case with them ?
Does anyone have any tips for this ?
Thanks again
Obviously latest updates on phone and apps.
did you check usual troubleshooting?
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
Note 10 doesn't have a 4K screen. Only 2K.
raul6 said:
did you check usual troubleshooting?
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
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Yes nothing much there unfortunately.
If I had to guess I would say that its maxed out at 720p where as my OnePlus 6t seems to be 1080p.
I know that Netflix is picky about which devices get "HD" content but if the Note 10 doesn't then that's just insane.
How's Netflix on yours ? Do you get the HDR pop-up at the beginning of a video?
No pop about hdr. I just assume it plays in HD when there is a mark on the content.
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Yes nothing much there unfortunately.
If I had to guess I would say that its maxed out at 720p where as my OnePlus 6t seems to be 1080p.
I know that Netflix is picky about which devices get "HD" content but if the Note 10 doesn't then that's just insane.
How's Netflix on yours ? Do you get the HDR pop-up at the beginning of a video?
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How could you tell Note 10+ is not supporting 1080p. I have HD in my movie title. HD can be 1080p.
Maximum resolution is Full HD which is 1080p.
So no issue to play 1080p in netflix.
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Note 10 doesn't have a 4K screen. Only 2K.
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To clarify, the Note 10 PLUS has a 2K screen. The smaller Note 10 is just 1080p.
I don't know about 4K, but after the Netflix update of devices I can see the HDR tag on many of the movies and series.
This with Note10+...
I think that it is country depndent
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I don't know about 4K, but after the Netflix update of devices I can see the HDR tag on many of the movies and series.
This with Note10+...
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So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.
So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.[/QUOTE]
No popup but I can see if the series is in HDR on the autoplay trailer screen, same as on my television.
It's HDR, 4K or HD.
You only get the logo your device supports.
Like on this picture:
[https://images.app.goo.gl/n7k53sAiNvvqKoEJ6
hotshot646 said:
So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.
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As I posted the screenshot before, netflix supports HDR in note 10+.
Did you subscribe for the ultra hd monthly subscription plan? Hdr only available for that plan.
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Note 10 is listed as the device which support hdr
I have had the ultra HD plan since the beginning so yes that's not the problem.
On my TV I get a round pop-up when I play a hdr video saying " hdr video playing"
This is common on all 4k hdr sets !
Besides talking about hdr and 4k I really see the image as crappy (which isn't the case in YouTube)
Like I've mentioned I know that the note 10 has been certified but we are on a note 10 PLUS forum. There is a difference and if Netflix validated the note 10 and not note 10 plus then that could be the problem.
I'll send them a email and report back my findings
I just chatted with netflix help center, they say we could not watch titles in 4K because our device works for 2K, but 1080p HDRs are working flawlessly for me. Should work for everybody
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I have had the ultra HD plan since the beginning so yes that's not the problem.
On my TV I get a round pop-up when I play a hdr video saying " hdr video playing"
This is common on all 4k hdr sets !
Besides talking about hdr and 4k I really see the image as crappy (which isn't the case in YouTube)
Like I've mentioned I know that the note 10 has been certified but we are on a note 10 PLUS forum. There is a difference and if Netflix validated the note 10 and not note 10 plus then that could be the problem.
I'll send them a email and report back my findings
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No, that popup is not common, I have two different Samsung televisions, one Note 10 Plus , my girlfriend has a iPhone 11 Pro and a couple of weeks ago I had a Galaxy 10±.....
None of these devices had a popup saying HDR is playing.
They just play in the best resolution supported by Netflix and the device.
You should check the app setting. As it shows support for hdr.
And you need to make sure the video quality is high.
I don't have uhd plan so I can't test for it.
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Hi everyone,
I know that Netflix recently sent a list of all compatible phones to support 4k HDR and the Note 10 was listed.
What is weird is the Note 10+ wasn't specifically listed and at the moment no hd on my phone.
Actually looks really bad like when I was watching movies on my PSP back in the day.
YouTube in 4k is just gorgeous so not a problem with the screen.
Can someone confirm this is also the case with them ?
Does anyone have any tips for this ?
Thanks again
Obviously latest updates on phone and apps.
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Problem resolution. The Netflix App comes pre-installed on Note 10+. Uninstall updates, clear data and disable the App. Then go to the play store and activate the App and press Update. Ready. sorted out.
On my Note 10+ it worked!
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Note 10+ N975W
No N975W?
So I read somewhere this phone was capable of filming in 4K DCI (also called 4K Cinema, it's a little different from 4K UHD).
From the mighty Wikipedia:
In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 (4K UHD) is the dominant 4K standard, whereas the movie projection industry uses 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K).
Now I bought this 5T second hand to (finally after 6 years, what a trooper!) replace my OPO and because I like to use the 4KDCI I tried to find this setting in the camera app. I flashed LineageOS 16.1, and it is not available in the camera app. So I tried OpenCamera, but still no luck.
Does this 5T really support 4K DCI? How to "unlock" it? Thanks.
Just checked. Stock camera in OOS 9.0.11 (latest available official ROM) is 4K capable with main shooter. It does film with 3840x2160. Dunno if it's that thing you're looking for.
P.S. Google camera 7.0 port also can film with that "4K" so you might be able to use it on custom ROMs too
adanoss said:
Just checked. Stock camera in OOS 9.0.11 (latest available official ROM) is 4K capable with main shooter. It does film with 3840x2160. Dunno if it's that thing you're looking for.
P.S. Google camera 7.0 port also can film with that "4K" so you might be able to use it on custom ROMs too
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From the mighty Wikipedia:
In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 (4K UHD) is the dominant 4K standard, whereas the movie projection industry uses 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K).
I'll check out Google Camera if I can find it.
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-edit- Google Camera in the Play Store only shows UHD, no DCI
I guess I'm the only one using DCI... Bummer.
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