Just saw a video posted by "pocketnow" on LG G7 camera review. At 4:57 mark, he said there were new addition(960 fps slow mo, 4k 60fps) from OTA updates since his original phone review 2 months ago. Is it true cuz i cant find it on web.
Video link- Hmm, seems i need 10 posts. Better PM me if u cant find on YT, or just search on YT and you'll have it.
Saw the video and yeah I can confirm that the phone can shoot 4k at 60 fps with the new OTA update but I just tried recording a slow motion video and it's just at 240 fps and I can't seem to find the 960 fps option.
You mean the video of Jaime Rivera? He doesn't know what he is talking about, the g7 doesn't have 960fps at 720p, just tested and it's 240fps.
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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kiszidomi said:
I don't even have the 4k 60fps option.
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That's because your phone is not on the last Ota update
The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
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The reason that the phone can't shoot in 960fps is because there's no dedicated chip for it. For example Samsung uses dedicated fast storage chip to store the footage of the video and then transfer it to the main storage. LG doesn't have that chip plus the sensor only officially supports 240fps 720p but I noticed that it also supports 1080p 240fps .
Why we don't have that option is a mystery.
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Damn, so not even a software update can turn it on? That's sad.
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
bootruss said:
Anyone else think that [email protected] is disappointing.. Lots of jello and inaccurate focusing. [email protected] send a more consistent option, tried to upload to you tube with 60 and it looked awful!
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Personally I prefer 4k 60fps. From what I recorded it seems stable and I have no problems with it.
Edit: here's a link of what the camera module is capable of: https://www.google.bg/url?sa=t&sour...FjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3vRFp9OMzb9J76fPbULXws
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Movies.
Not only watch movies, but make them also with the HTC Desire. HD (High Definition) video capture lets you capture special moments as they happen in brilliant high definition.
It's not HD (at present)
where did you get that info from?
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...apixel-Touch-Screen-Mobile-Phone/Product.html
Here!
It's on the way apparently
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-desire-hd-video-encoding-divx-playback/
Yeah but if we have to add software to the phone, is this not going to further limit the available space on the phone meaning removing a number of apps?
The phone memory capacity is so poor can it really work without Google allowing apps on memory cards to work?
I think Play have just printed the incorrect specs.
No one from HTC has said any 720P recording updates as far as Im aware.
don't forget that anything above 425 lines is legaly defined as hd. at 480 they are technically correct. bloody cheeky but correct.
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farnsbarns said:
don't forget that anything above 425 lines is legaly defined as hd. at 480 they are technically correct. bloody cheeky but correct.
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Standard Def TV in the UK is already 576 lines, I think you will find that the HD Spec lists 720 lines as a minimum for HD TV so I would therefore expect that when referring to video playback and recording the 720 lines mininmum would still apply.
I think that in the phone industry though it is quite common to call a screen resolution of 480 lines HD just to add confusion
i think rather it is just Play getting it wrong.
Phones4U also say something similar instore (not checked online).
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It's on the way apparently
http://www.htcphones.net/htc-desire-hd-video-encoding-divx-playback/
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only place i see mention of encoding is in the title.
the actual post only talks about divx decoding, or am i missing something? *shrug*
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Phones4U also say something similar instore (not checked online).
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Lol! How suprising! They'll say anything to sell a phone!
I'd rather they just made video recording at 30FPS rather than the crappy 20FPS that it is now. It's *extremely* stuttery in video mode. A weak LG Viewty from 3 years ago could record at 120FPS , why does a snapdragon powered phone in 2010 record at 20 FPS?
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I'd rather they just made video recording at 30FPS rather than the crappy 20FPS that it is now. It's *extremely* stuttery in video mode. A weak LG Viewty from 3 years ago could record at 120FPS , why does a snapdragon powered phone in 2010 record at 20 FPS?
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It's supposed to be 30fps, at a higher resolution, and presumably greater bit depth. Are you recording to sd card or internal memory?
I'd rather they just made video recording at 30FPS rather than the crappy 20FPS that it is now. It's *extremely* stuttery in video mode. A weak LG Vie
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It's supposed to be 30fps, at a higher resolution, and presumably greater bit depth. Are you recording to sd card or internal memory?
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My videos record at 20fps, checked it on vlc and quicktime.
also noticed a bug where sometimes it records video but with a pink filter colour, weird.
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Is it a hardware limitation stopping us from recording 1440p on our SGS3's, or did they just limit it at 1080p since it's more mainstream?
yousefak said:
Is it a hardware limitation stopping us from recording 1440p on our SGS3's, or did they just limit it at 1080p since it's more mainstream?
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What is 1440p? Never heard of that standard.
Explanation of 1440p.
http://m.wisegeek.com/what-is-1440p.htm
And to answer the OP- I think we are limited to 1080p.
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I'm having a very difficult time trying to find out if the rear camera on the G4 can indeed shoot 1080p video at 60 fps? Some reviews on YouTube say that it can, while some others say that it can't. I'm wondering if maybe the preview units LG sent out to testers can't do it and maybe the actual retail units can? Could anyone with a retail unit and not one of the preview units please see if the G4 can actually shoot 1080p videos at 60 fps?
No at this moment
Most of the specs I read say [email protected] and [email protected] Hope that's not a typo because is was hoping for 60fps
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In this article http://www.tmonews.com/2015/05/lg-g4-review/ it says:
"For this who like to shoot video, the G4 can shoot in resolutions up to 4k (at 30fps). If you want a higher frame rate for a smoother video, you can drop it down to Full HD 1080p and shoot at 60fps. It also has optical stabilization to minimize any camera movements."
Can't guarantee it's accurate but hope so.
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Most of the specs I read say [email protected] and [email protected] Hope that's not a typo because is was hoping for 60fps
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In this article http://www.tmonews.com/2015/05/lg-g4-review/ it says:
"For this who like to shoot video, the G4 can shoot in resolutions up to 4k (at 30fps). If you want a higher frame rate for a smoother video, you can drop it down to Full HD 1080p and shoot at 60fps. It also has optical stabilization to minimize any camera movements."
Can't guarantee it's accurate but hope so.
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Most of the specs say 1080p at 60 fps, but so far no videos actually show it. I have seen 1 video (and only 1 video) claim to be @ 60fps but there is no proof at all it was even shot with a G4. I played with a demo unit at a store yesterday and the unit I used definitely didn't shoot at 60 fps.
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Most of the specs say 1080p at 60 fps, but so far no videos actually show it. I have seen 1 video (and only 1 video) claim to be @ 60fps but there is no proof at all it was even shot with a G4. I played with a demo unit at a store yesterday and the unit I used definitely didn't shoot at 60 fps.
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I played with the AT&T version at the store and it had 1080p/60fps as an option.
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I played with the AT&T version at the store and it had 1080p/60fps as an option.
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Hmm interesting. I wonder if it's only an option on certain carriers right now? Do you remember what exactly what the menu options were? Was it just UHD, FHD, HD, and Slow-Mo or was there another option?
The LG G2 and G3 both have [email protected] so we can assume the G4 does as well. It needs a lot of light to shoot at 60fps otherwise the LG automatically lowers the frame rate. Not sure of the technical reasons but with my G2 I need to be outdoors on a sunny day to get 60fps. I tried last night inside in a dim room and it only recorded at 15fps even though I was on the 60fps setting. Still awaiting my g4 but it's the first thing I'm going to try.
I was finally able to find a video claiming 60fps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6POQK_3nzw
That's a good start, although I still find it odd that this is the only LG G4 1080 60 fps video that I've seen (aside from 1 other random video that had no info at all). Especially considering how many of these they sent to youtubers to review. I'd still really like to see a screen shot of the menu actually showing the option.
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I was finally able to find a video claiming 60fps!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6POQK_3nzw
That's a good start, although I still find it odd that this is the only LG G4 1080 60 fps video that I've seen (aside from 1 other random video that had no info at all). Especially considering how many of these they sent to youtubers to review. I'd still really like to see a screen shot of the menu actually showing the option.
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I just took a short test video on my G4 and used MediaInfo software to analyse the file. it was only 30fps. I tried at both 4K and 1080p. There's no option anywhere in the camera app to choose framerate.
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I just took a short test video on my G4 and used MediaInfo software to analyse the file. it was only 30fps. I tried at both 4K and 1080p. There's no option anywhere in the camera app to choose framerate.
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I can confirm that both UHD and FHD produce 30fps videos. Or that is what vlc shows when playing them back on PC.
I can confirm that the G4 can't record in 60 fps.
I annilayzed with mediainfo.
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Bump for what? We've already established it can't do 60fps.
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Bump for what? We've already established it can't do 60fps.
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That guy in the video I linked still claims that it can in the comments on the video. I'm not sure if he is flat out lying or what, but he seems pretty certain.
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The LG G4's Camera is Unique at this moment, but GSMArena tells the awful truth in the review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php :crying:
No, seems not to be so. Please Update your Camera Software to make it Perfect, LG.
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EDIT: In the Specs, they mention, that it's got it. But in the Review, they tell me the opposite
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The LG G4's Camera is Unique at this moment, but GSMArena tells the awful truth in the review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php :crying:
No, seems not to be so. Please Update your Camera Software to make it Perfect, LG.
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EDIT: In the Specs, they mention, that it's got it. But in the Review, they tell me the opposite
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Yea, their specs are wrong. Not for the first time.
G3 can record at 60fps via XCAM, future updates might bring 60fps but if not then probably i hope XCAM will come to G4, that would unlock all hidden potential
Just like the g3 not it can't
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Yea, their specs are wrong. Not for the first time.
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So is the Review or the Specification Page Correct?
Can somebody try it?
Hannah Stern said:
So is the Review or the Specification Page Correct?
Can somebody try it?
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Try reading this thread again. We've already discussed this. A few of us have already tested it.
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So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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At long last, if this is available and the stabilisation is as good as they demo'd it'll be a great camcorder.
DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.
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So with the announcement out of the way, a DXO Mark assessment complete and all the specs published I'm left wondering about video recording. The 6P recorded in 4K at 30FPS, 1080P at 30FPS and Slow Motion at 120FPS and 240FPS and without OIS it was shaky as hell. Both GSM Arena and the DXO Mark list 1080p 30/60/120FPS for the Pixels which piqued my interest.
Will we be getting 60FPS 1080p?
The image stabilisation on at the demo looked very impressive too and I believe that was at 4K but we'll have to wait and see if it's actually that good...
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I forgot where I saw the spec but I did see somewhere that it does to 60fps 1080p. I'll see if I can find it.
http://m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_xl-8345.php a few hands on videos mentioned it as well
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DXO said there was still Jello effect associated with EIS with videos. I guess we'll have to wait and see what it's truly like.
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meh. they go on to say it's very common among smartphones and nothing serious to affect its score.
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According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
https://youtu.be/jg-7HwllfFc?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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According to this video, there is no [email protected] option:
?t=5m42s
Anyway, I'm really suspicious about this new kind of EIS, because no matter what, EIS is really far away to give similar results than OIS.
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It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:
early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js
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It does have 60fps. It must be in the settings that you choose the frame rate. In that video provided, it's just the choice of what quality you want, not the fps.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.red...fps_video_recording/?client=ms-android-google
This is another confirmation. We still have hope! :victory:
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The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
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early released video, for what its worth.
https://youtu.be/oLByqWyq5Js
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" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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The only thing why I didn't buy the 6P, because it was pretty stupid they didn't add this when even mid-range phone have them. On the other hand, I would love to see manual controls on the camera, because every flagship should have them and people who likes photography greatly appreciate this.
" I will say the Image stabilization needs some work"
Looks good indeed, because stabilization usually doesn't work on 4K, but still we can't guarantee that the video was edited or manipulated in any way; we should wait for real reviews and camera tests, because I think is the only good thing this phone has.
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Phone Arena seem to think that it's one of the first with EIS at 4K, I hope so!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Goog...apable-of-recording-4K-video-with-EIS_id86368
Does anyone know if there is an app/mod that supports recording of 60 fps video at 720/1080p on any model of the zenfone 2? The stock phone does not support recording above 30 fps even though the hardware of the phone supports it as pointed out here, "there’s no [email protected] option even though the Toshiba rear camera supports it".
From some googling it appears the Zenfone 2 uses a Toshiba T4K37 CMOS sensor, which natively supports both 1080p and 720p 60 fps recording.
I looked around the forums already and haven't seen anything about this, has anyone gotten it to work?
I think it's only 30 fps. I'm not sure though
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I think it's only 30 fps. I'm not sure though
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I'm gonna edit my post, I meant to state that I own a Zenfone 2 and am trying to get 60fps recording working. Thanks for the quick response though!
The problem should be the Intel Z3580 that supports only 30 fps.
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The problem should be the Intel Z3580 that supports only 30 fps.
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does this mean? That the decoding capabilities of the processor don't support 60 fps?
"Intel has surprisingly little information on the video encoding and decoding abilities of the Atom Z3580. Since the CPUs remain at their idle frequency during video playback, it appears the ZenFone 2 uses fixed-function hardware (instead of software decoding which uses the CPUs) for H.264 video decoding, saving power." (From the Tomshardware Review)
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Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does this mean? That the decoding capabilities of the processor don't support 60 fps?
"Intel has surprisingly little information on the video encoding and decoding abilities of the Atom Z3580. Since the CPUs remain at their idle frequency during video playback, it appears the ZenFone 2 uses fixed-function hardware (instead of software decoding which uses the CPUs) for H.264 video decoding, saving power." (From the Tomshardware Review)
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Exactly, we talked about this when the phone came out 1 year ago, and this was the idea... Asus also added slow motion in Asus camera, but apparently there is no way to increase to 60fps.
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Exactly, we talked about this when the phone came out 1 year ago, and this was the idea... Asus also added slow motion in Asus camera, but apparently there is no way to increase to 60fps.
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So the short answer is that the hardware actually doesn't support it due to a cpu limitation? To be clear, this means that no app or mod (cyanogenmod etc.) could possibly allow you to take 60 fps video?
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To be clear, this means that no app or mod (cyanogenmod etc.) could possibly allow you to take 60 fps video?
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No.
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No.
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Ok... so would you be kind enough to elaborate? The point of this thread is to find out if there is anything I can do to be able to take 60 fps video on an Asus Zenfone 2, so if it is possible do you know how?
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Does anyone know if there is an app/mod that supports recording of 60 fps video at 720/1080p on any model of the zenfone 2? The stock phone does not support recording above 30 fps even though the hardware of the phone supports it as pointed out here, "there’s no [email protected] option even though the Toshiba rear camera supports it".
From some googling it appears the Zenfone 2 uses a Toshiba T4K37 CMOS sensor, which natively supports both 1080p and 720p 60 fps recording.
I looked around the forums already and haven't seen anything about this, has anyone gotten it to work?
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I don't know much about Intel SOC but had a quick look at the zenfone 2 kernel https://github.com/sayeed99/LPGFX_C...rivers/camera/drivers/media/i2c/t4k37/t4k37.h
It seems all that's needed is a custom kernel with the 60fps register added to the video configuration near the end of the file. Alternative is to replace 30 fps register with 60fps and have 1080p video running at 60fps all the time
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I don't know much about Intel SOC but had a quick look at the zenfone 2 kernel https://github.com/sayeed99/LPGFX_C...rivers/camera/drivers/media/i2c/t4k37/t4k37.h
It seems all that's needed is a custom kernel with the 60fps register added to the video configuration near the end of the file. Alternative is to replace 30 fps register with 60fps and have 1080p video running at 60fps all the time
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Great, so has anyone tried this before? I'm sure if the phone has been out over a year now there must have been some attempts right?
the CPU supports 1080p 60 encode
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google image with z3560
you can see even merrifield(dual-core atom uses same architecture of z35xx)
supports 1080p 60 encode
maybe another limit exists
(eg : thermal,battery(power) or data link bandwidth between camera and board)
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Ok... so would you be kind enough to elaborate? The point of this thread is to find out if there is anything I can do to be able to take 60 fps video on an Asus Zenfone 2, so if it is possible do you know how?
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Probably other components of hardware/software on our device that prevent the function from being available.
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