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How to check if Apps2SD has been installed correctly...

The following information is for those who are still unsure of whether Apps2SD has been installed and if it is working correctly after root.
Open a Terminal Editor on your phone (I currently use ConnectBot, which is available for download via the Android Marketplace, comes with hotkeys, and it's free, link <here>).
When you have the client open, type "su" to gain super user access, and then hit enter. Now type "ls -l /data" and hit enter. You should see a few lines, a couple of which should read on the far right column:
dalvik-cache -> /system/sd/dalvik-cache
app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
app -> /system/sd/app
Notice the -> indicating symlinks and the 'sd'
You can also run: busybox df -h to check the /system/sd that the folder is being used
If this output is visible to you, then Apps2SD is working properly and you have installed it correctly. You will notice that by checking Menu > Settings > SD & phone storage, there is still some internal memory going down due to cache, other data, etc, but the main apps all go on the SD card given the above result. I currently have 29 apps installed (including Google Earth, which is 22.1 MB in size itself) and my internal memory currently shows 119MB of available space.
You can perform more extensive checks by executing the following command:
ls /system/sd/app (this will list all the apps which you have installed to the SD card)
If you prefer to run it from a PC with your phone connected, then this can also be checked via ADB by installing the relevant Android SDK for your OS. Downloads for SDK versions, link <here>.
Alternatively, you can use the script (written by theboxman from MoDaCo.com), which you can run via GScript Lite to test if Apps2SD is working correctly, link <here>.

how about unlock?
thank you for the info. btw, i havent seen in the forum if there a way to unlock the Desire form a certain network. any idea? sorry i know its the wrong place to ask and post this.

Hi Mastoid,
Could you tell me how exactly to run this from PC?
I've got the whole SDK installed but no idea what i have to do...open a prompt or something? Please inform as i'd really like to check.

You need to download the Android SDK and also Java.
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/widget/jdk6.jsp
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Then open a command prompt in Windows, plug in your Desire (your phone does not need to be in hboot/fastboot to access adb shell).
1) Open a command prompt on your computer and cd to your adb tools directory (it will be wherever you extracted the sdk; ie, c:\android-sdk_r04-windows\android-sdk-windows\tools
2) In that window enter the following commands:
adb shell
su
ls -l /data
this should list the top 2 items as:
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2010-04-28 22:54 app-private -> /system/sd/app-private
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2010-04-28 22:54 app -> /system/sd/app
ls -l /system/sd/app (will list apps on installed to your SD Card)
Now, for final proof, type:
busybox df -h

iom_jack said:
thank you for the info. btw, i havent seen in the forum if there a way to unlock the Desire form a certain network. any idea? sorry i know its the wrong place to ask and post this.
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Do you mean to have it sim-unlocked?
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100328154024AA1abkl

Great!
That worked, though the items you mention are not at the top but a couple of rows down. Busybox did show the apps installed on the SD.....ah, peace of mind
thx for the instructions!

no problem bud, glad it worked out for you
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Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
can it stop working halfway? i mean at first it really looked like apps were on SD but now it takes the flash memory instead....
i have 38m left with APP2SD

totorip said:
can it stop working halfway? i mean at first it really looked like apps were on SD but now it takes the flash memory instead....
i have 38m left with APP2SD
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I posted a thread recently showing how to check if Apps2SD has been installed correctly and is working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677073

How to setup App2SD?
Anyone got a clear, easy guide on getting it working? Can you install it on the standard rooted ROM from MoDaCo? Do you need to have it cooked into a ROM?
A video or something would help but I'm interested in getting it setup incase I need to get a load of apps

î did your think i i use better terminal pro
app => system/sd/app
dalvik cache => /system/sd/dalvik cache
app private => /system/sd/ app private
so how can i have around 40mb left only?

Re: Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
How many apps have you installed?
How have you partitioned your sd card? i.e. swap size?, ext2 size?
Have you applied the Apps2SD update zip?
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ive got maybe 40/50apps
i partitionned , 66 cache 1280m EXT 2=> EXT3
and no update....i dont need with the latest modaco R2 custom rom do i?
im afraid to reboot everything again, spent the whole day to isntall everything
30mb left :x

Re: Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
I would suggest that you apply the dalvik-cache update zip and that should hopefully fix it. Note that you should only allocate 512MB to 1024MB (max) for the ext2 size and, you do not require a swap of 66MB, it is not recommended. I have my swap set to 0MB, ext2 set to 512MB which is more than enough space for apps, and rest to FAT32.
Search google for the "Apps2SD mini guide" (found via MoDaCo website) click the link and scroll down to the bottom of page one, the update zip file is available there.
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is it bad? (64 swap)
i calculated, i installed 170m worth of app. And i have "43" left (started at 138)
so , somewhere, APP2SD is working...but not verry effective

Re: Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
I think it is working, run the command (ls /system/sd/app) in terminal editor in the link i posted earlier and check what apps are stored to the sd card. Also, download and install "cachecleaner" from the marketplace (free) to free up some cache space.
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Re: Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
You have something wrong. I have also this Rom with about 53 apps and have still 134MB free.
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i installed the update.zip
i went from 38 to 53mb
then i use cache cleaner , i now have 60....
and still 170m worth of app...
so is my app2sd working in half?

Re: Question about APP2SD.....if anyone can answer
I ran the command in Su, and only the 2 app ones said sd, my dalvic cache didn't say SD card. I ran the suggested update fix but had bootloop, do I need to wipe anything first? I'm using evil 1. 0 Rom and thought it came pre app2sd. . .
Id like to get dalvic moved. . .
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Lol since thazt update zip i have no more wifi....cant start wifi it says. Great

DamageControl 3.2.2.1 Apps2SD

Hello All,
I have a rooted Evo with DamageControl's 3.2.2.1 rom. I know it has apps2sd built into the OS, yet I cannot seem to get this working at all. Would anyone be kind enough who has this OS and a2sd working to make a quick and dirty guide? Ihave tried partitioning via Rom Manager and then turning it on...tried a few things. Any help is appreciated.

I would like some help with this as well. Have tried all the same steps, just can't seem to figure it out.
Sent from Ye olde Evo

Im sure someone out there knows how to do this!

Got this from another forum:
Did you patition it on the phone? Did you upgrade EXT2 to EXT3? If the answer to either or both of these, that could be the problem.
Type this in order:
cd c:\android-sdk-windows\tools (or wherever you have installed the sdk)
adb remount
adb shell
busybox --install /system/xbin
mkdir /system/sd
a2sd
exit (wait until its done doing its thing, you should see # when its done)
restart your phone after the prompt is done spewing and you're all set.
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Personally I don't think there's any need for this since the EVO has hugeee internal memory. This was used mostly on older phones.

Thanks I'll try it when I get home

correct, most roms using this will only use app2sd if you have the ext partition on the sdcard, otherwise it defaults to the normal app storage

[Q] Market Not Downloading Apps

Hey, okay so I'm having this annoying problem with the android market not downloading my apps. I would click install, then it will say your item will be downloaded, then it will start downloading but then disappear and stop. What's even more weird is that it doesn't happen for all apps, some of them do download. I have tried going to settings, market, and clear data and cache. Also, the same thing with the download manager still no luck. I am running a custom rom (Stock Turbo) however, this problem was persistent in my original stock rom too. I think it has something to do with the new android market. 2.2.7. Any ideas? Thanks. Btw, I have a HTC Evo.

Update
Hey, okay so I was reading, and I discovered the with the custom rom I have the dalvik is moved to the /cache space. Apparently, the market also uses the /cache space when temporarily downloading apps. That could explain why I can only download smaller apps. So could this be the problem? Also, is there a way to move the dalvik back to the phone's memory, or am I better off just flashing another rom?

Wow, okay, so I'm replying to my own posts ahha, but anyway, I looked in logcat, and realized, that I get the error d/downloadmanager: downlaod aborted not enough free space. So definitly have to do with the /cache right?

my phone did this to me before i even rooted. try clearing the market cache and restarting.

aimbdd said:
my phone did this to me before i even rooted. try clearing the market cache and restarting.
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Sorry, still didn't work

I had this same problem a few months ago and did find a fix somewhere online. I have the link saved on my laptop at home, if no one posts it before I get home Ill post it here for you.

filmaker said:
Wow, okay, so I'm replying to my own posts ahha, but anyway, I looked in logcat, and realized, that I get the error d/downloadmanager: downlaod aborted not enough free space. So definitly have to do with the /cache right?
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Yes, if your /cache partition is full, it will cause issues downloading from the market. I saw that at one point.
Since you mentioned logcat, I assume you have the SDK and adb ready to go. You can confirm if your cache dir is full with the following (from windows. You can also drop "adb shell" and run it from terminal on the device).
adb shell df -k /cache

bkrodgers said:
Yes, if your /cache partition is full, it will cause issues downloading from the market. I saw that at one point.
Since you mentioned logcat, I assume you have the SDK and adb ready to go. You can confirm if your cache dir is full with the following (from windows. You can also drop "adb shell" and run it from terminal on the device).
adb shell df -k /cache
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Hey thanks for the info. Actually, I just got a little impatient and went on, and installed another custom rom where the dalvik is not moved to the cache portion. That seemed to do the trick. With this new rom I have 152 mb of space available in the chache. (checking from adb)

corzo002 said:
I had this same problem a few months ago and did find a fix somewhere online. I have the link saved on my laptop at home, if no one posts it before I get home Ill post it here for you.
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Thanks, I appreciate the help, but I solved my problem by installing another custom rom without the dalvik moved to the /cache. Seems to be working now. lol

where did my storage space go?

Hey for some days now i have not been able to instal any apps, then i checked how much space i have left on the phone and it was 2mb. now here is the thing, i got 8 apps and they are together 5mb... I have tried to delete catch stuff etc and i got nothing more, so what happend to my storage space?

Appbrain
-Create an appbrain account
-Install appbrain on your phone
-Sync
-Go appbrain website and click 'My Apps'
Do this to double check what you have installed.
If you're rooted, what rom are you using?
To clean my cache, i use Cache Cleaner NG.

Copy paste from another post i just made.
This has always been a problem with my desire until i found out about AlphaRev. Now i've got 166MB free internal space. My suggestion is to install AlphaRev and modify the partition tables as listed in the tutorial on alpharev.nl. I would have posted a link but i can't post links yet.

From terminal emulator or adb shell type this (root required)
su
du -md 2 /data > /sdcard/data.txt
Then open your favourite file explorer and take a look at data.txt on your sdcard to find the culprit. In the file should be a list of directories and their size, just look for the biggest one.

mercianary said:
From terminal emulator or adb shell type this (root required)
su
du -md 2 /data > /sdcard/data.txt
Then open your favourite file explorer and take a look at data.txt on your sdcard to find the culprit. In the file should be a list of directories and their size, just look for the biggest one.
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nsain said:
Hey for some days now i have not been able to instal any apps, then i checked how much space i have left on the phone and it was 2mb. now here is the thing, i got 8 apps and they are together 5mb... I have tried to delete catch stuff etc and i got nothing more, so what happend to my storage space?
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Root your phone, and the go and Install Starburst ROM, its super fast, stable and I have 1.7gb of internal storage space to install apps
Make sure you have a class 4 SD card or better, trust me it will be the best thing you have done to your phone.
P.S dont forget to backup all your apps and stuff.
shankly1985

/system

Hej guys,
Since a couple of weeks I am using a Nexus 5x (after 3,5 years using a nexus 4). The only thing I hate about it are the annoying a d s!! (If I wan't to use an app I like, I'll buy it. Don't knock on my "door" and ask for my money)
Until now I have succesfully rooted the phone, but a d f r ee doesn't work (I thing because of the /system partition is read only?)
Are there any problems with making /system writeable?
Until now I've found that I should make a full backup (not sure which kind of backup or which program to use to be sure it is a full backup to use later when bricked or something)
after that I could always restore to the beginning before I make /system writeable (read/write).
So my questions: are there any (bad) consequences about making /system writeable and will this make my phone a real nexus (a sweet clean phone without bulls**t?)
I've been searching for days to get an awnser, but I can't figure it out for 100%
Regards,

Are you sure you're rooted? Which directions did you follow? Have you tried any other apps that require root?

Well, I think I have root access because superSU asked me to allow a d f r e e.
1st attempt trying to root (the old way with wugfresh's toolkit like I did with my nexus 4) give me some issues. (Busybox could not install) and when I should get an question if superSU should allow or not, I'll get the message that I am not rooted.
So I've tried to install busy box through recovery (twrp), now I don't see the busy box icon in the app drawer but I'll get the message to grand an app for superuser access.
So I think I am rooted, I have used wugfresh toolkit like I did use for my nexus 4.
The only issue I've ran into was that with the 5x the /system partition is not writable.
I see a lot of warnings (on the phone and on the internet) about making /system read/write, but because it is new for me I was wondering what I should do. And of course what I should not do.

How can we even make /system writeable? I've spent hours searching how. Every "solution" I come across just ends up the same way.
Most via command line just error out saying the file system is read only.
I'm desperate to hide ads on websites. Some today have so many it makes them unusable!
I too used NRT to root. Does manually rooting have the same issue?

Adaway works fine.
Also, using root explorer and writing anything to /system asks to make it writable and just press yes's and voila.
But just use adaway.

you can't use file explorer to change the permissions as it's not a permission issue. the problem is the file system is read only
[email protected]:/ $ mount | grep system
/dev/block/dm-0 /system ext4 ro,seclabel,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
any attempt to remount the file system as rw instead of ro fails

So has anyone figured out how to get adaway to work. Installs fine but can't copy hosts files
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glitterbrat said:
you can't use file explorer to change the permissions as it's not a permission issue. the problem is the file system is read only
[email protected]:/ $ mount | grep system
/dev/block/dm-0 /system ext4 ro,seclabel,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
any attempt to remount the file system as rw instead of ro fails
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Type su first, accept the prompt on your phone, then mount system.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Type su first, accept the prompt on your phone, then mount system.
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In terminal emulator? Then adaway will install fine?
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qbanlinxx said:
In terminal emulator? Then adaway will install fine?
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I don't know. But to mount system you need to have root privileges. Typing su in either the terminal emulator or terminal on your computer (after typing adb shell) will grant that application permission to rw. Them you can do whatever you need to do in the terminal.
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FuriouZ said:
Hej guys,
Since a couple of weeks I am using a Nexus 5x (after 3,5 years using a nexus 4). The only thing I hate about it are the annoying a d s!! (If I wan't to use an app I like, I'll buy it. Don't knock on my "door" and ask for my money)
Until now I have succesfully rooted the phone, but a d f r ee doesn't work (I thing because of the /system partition is read only?)
Are there any problems with making /system writeable?
Until now I've found that I should make a full backup (not sure which kind of backup or which program to use to be sure it is a full backup to use later when bricked or something)
after that I could always restore to the beginning before I make /system writeable (read/write).
So my questions: are there any (bad) consequences about making /system writeable and will this make my phone a real nexus (a sweet clean phone without bulls**t?)
I've been searching for days to get an awnser, but I can't figure it out for 100%
Regards,
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I experienced same problem. I have used Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit (v 2.1.0) for root, unlock etc. process (choose TWRP for recovery), but even though SU seems to work smooth I realized that a d free and busybox (and all other apps which has to be access /system folder) doesnt work.
The problem is about Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit, something with boot.img, as I learned other forums (maybe they have solved the poblem on new version - if available). After I have try the skipsoft tookit, everytyhing has works fine.
And yes, I have make over all process (unlock->recovery->root...)

yavuzone said:
I experienced same problem. I have used Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit (v 2.1.0) for root, unlock etc. process (choose TWRP for recovery), but even though SU seems to work smooth I realized that a d free and busybox (and all other apps which has to be access /system folder) doesnt work.
The problem is about Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit, something with boot.img, as I learned other forums (maybe they have solved the poblem on new version - if available). After I have try the skipsoft tookit, everytyhing has works fine.
And yes, I have make over all process (unlock->recovery->root...)
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Check out the v2.6 Super User
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3

yavuzone said:
I experienced same problem. I have used Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit (v 2.1.0) for root, unlock etc. process (choose TWRP for recovery), but even though SU seems to work smooth I realized that a d free and busybox (and all other apps which has to be access /system folder) doesnt work.
The problem is about Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit, something with boot.img, as I learned other forums (maybe they have solved the poblem on new version - if available). After I have try the skipsoft tookit, everytyhing has works fine.
And yes, I have make over all process (unlock->recovery->root...)
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Thanks, I have read about a different boot.img but I didn't figure it out yet, tomorrow I will look into it and try a different boot.img
But before I do anything I want be sure how to backup and restore correctly like I've never changed the read/write permissions (when ever needed to remain guarantee)
Until now I've 'bricked' and fixed my phones so it was never needed (probably because I've had good backups) but It would be a pain in the ass if I need to spend more if I could prevent it by a simple way..

OK I've got it working, thanks Yavuzone! The modified_boot.img did the trick.
so no need to change /system permissions and bye bye annoying a d s
It was pretty easy, but took a lot of time because I needed to enter a pattern and my own pattern did not match. I've has this 2 times. So it was needed to do a full wipe, but now it is all working like a (nexus) phone should be.

FuriouZ said:
OK I've got it working, thanks Yavuzone! The modified_boot.img did the trick.
so no need to change /system permissions and bye bye annoying a d s
It was pretty easy, but took a lot of time because I needed to enter a pattern and my own pattern did not match. I've has this 2 times. So it was needed to do a full wipe, but now it is all working like a (nexus) phone should be.
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Hi, I'm experiencing the exact same issue that you had. Would you mind outlining the exact steps that you took to overcome this? Sorry but I've been searching Google for a couple of days and I am still at a loss. Any help would be appreciated.