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Navigation button problems... Any1 else having them?

I don't know if it's coincidence, but ever since I upgrade to WM5 and went back to WM2003SE, my navigation button has not worked the same.
For example, a lot of times I can go right, but can't go back left even after multiple presses, and then most of the time the middle or 'Enter' button doesn't do anything. Itz become extremely annoying because I have lost my 4th stylus by now, and I haven't received my new ones yet. Oh, and I can't play MorphGear right anymore.
Is it just hardware? Cuz I first went to ROM v.1.42 and then went to 1.40 to see if it was a problem with the new ROMs, but I still have the same problems. Any one else having these issues, and has any one fixed it??
UPDATE: WTF!! Now it went from bad to worse. Yesterday, when I left my BA at home, once I returned from work I noticed that PIE was constantly opening over and over again. Then some of the buttons wouldn't respond like the POWER to turn it off. The backlight pretty much stayed lit the whole time because it looked like the keys were stuck. I upgraded to WM5 derived from the Himalaya today and now the START menu comes up almost every 5-8 seconds, followed by a real quick succession of multiple "clicks", and my 'Start' button doesn't seem to be responding.
Can anyone help? Has my BA gone to the state of retardation? Is there a way to bring it back??

How did you go with this problem.
Mine is doing similar ever since a low battery problem.
DLC

I am experiencing the same kind of problem... and it happend after upgrade to WM5. But the problem likely to be caused by hardware.

I had problems with my phone opening up the start menu, opening IE, and closing programs immediately after opening them, Of course I had dropped the phone halfway in a cup of ice water, but immediately after tossing it in water (after hanging up, I simply dropped the phone into the cup-holder I have mounted below my stereo which happened to be occupied by a glass of ice-water I placed there without remembering) I shook the water out of the phone, and for about as much as i could stand the heat, I put a hair-dryer to the end of my phone which i pryed open after removing as many screws as i could. After a day of quirky behavior, and a night of having the battery seperated from the phone, my phone is back to its old self with the water-damage seal unnaffected after missing the line of water by just a few milimeters. I suggest going to Settings>Buttons and making every button perform no function at all followed by going to Settings>System>Button Lock and having all keys locked except your power button. Hope this helps!

Having somewhat the same issue. Only the "Down Navigation button" isn't working. Although, I'm still using Windows Mobile 2003 SE. Is there a DIY fix for this?

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Navigation Up/Down
Mine isn't working either - is this a hardware fault?

trying pressing down a bit harder. coz when i did that for mine, the "down" button works. normal applied pressure as for the rest of the buttons(left/right/up) does not seem to work with the "down" button, but a bit more force would make it work.
this happens to my IIs.. mebbe u can try.

Button problems
After no trauma or dunks in water several of my buttons have gone awry. My green phone button, red phone button and navigation buttons all open contacts. The green phone button activates voice command at the same time that it opens contacts. I've never switched from WM2003SE. I've checked the buttons settings and they are the same as always. Most bizarre of all is that my battery is quickly discharging. I suspect some software process is running hard but don't have any idea where to start to fix this. Soft resets have not helped.

buttons gone crazy
A hard reset fixed the problem but was a typical pain to get everything back going. Sprite backup works great until the first attempt to ActiveSync with your PC.

is this a common problem?

my xda2s recently experienced a problem which consists of the volume bar keep going up and up making the 'end' noise repeatedly, and if say the volume bar on the side were to be pressed down, it would go down n go up again...
secondly, the power button is not functioning well, it can turn the phone on by clicking it once (as usual) it can turn the backlight on and off by holding it (as usual) but it wont turn off by pressing it once, or anything...
help please, thank you

doesn't happen with any of my 3... sounds like you've got them there problems.

pYroboy,
let me know if you found the resolution. My problems are similar to yours...
Thanks.

doesnt happen to any of my two BA...
try opening up your unit and clean up the contacts.

I did open it, but could not figure out which contact to clean. Power switch is sooooooo freaking small, I did not figure out what I could clean there, it seems that it is 2x4mm in size soldered for good to the board. Same about volume rocker/switch on the side.
How is it possible to clean them??? I could not figure out what could be cleaned there without detaching the switches from the board.
Does anyone sell these parts? Maybe it would be easier (although not easy also because they are so freaking small) to replace them??
Guys, need advice from you... from the ones who fooled around with similar parts...
Thanks.

try an air brush. or a fast evaporating contact cleaner.
just make sure you apply enough pressure not to blow the sensitive parts away.
*just becareful

OK. Thanks. I'll try that. But where do you people get that stuff. Do they sell it in electronics stores, or I need to look someplace else?
I need to do something anyway, because today I can't turn ON. I used timeout of 1 minute on battery power to power it OFF. But not being able to turn the whole thing ON really put me down....
Is there any program to remap Power On/Off button to Recorder or Media Player buttons on the side? They are all 3 the same switches. If it would be possible, I'd get by using one of those buttons.... Just running out of freaking ideas here....

contact cleaners can be found in your local radioshack(i.e. electronics or computer botique/shops).
regarding the power button i think that is hardwired to be the only powerbutton for the unit. sad to say you cant map it to powerup your BA.

pecq said:
OK. Thanks. I'll try that. But where do you people get that stuff. Do they sell it in electronics stores, or I need to look someplace else?
I need to do something anyway, because today I can't turn ON. I used timeout of 1 minute on battery power to power it OFF. But not being able to turn the whole thing ON really put me down....
Is there any program to remap Power On/Off button to Recorder or Media Player buttons on the side? They are all 3 the same switches. If it would be possible, I'd get by using one of those buttons.... Just running out of freaking ideas here....
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Assuming you have the button lock enabled you can wake it up by receiving a phone call, and then disable the button lock and use any button to wake up/turn on the device. This is not the most elegant solution, but if cleaning fails to fix it then it may be your only option.

Volume up, Menu and Home key not working!

Hello everybody! My htc desire's physical buttons(actually just the volume up, home and menu keys) don't work...I press them but nothing happens. Well, they work sometimes, but when they don't I reboot my phone, randomly press some buttons, and they start working again. I just don't know what the fault is. Im on MildWild CM 4.3. I think the same problem was with other firmwares too. Can you please solve my problem?

If your device is under warrantly just send it to htc. It's a hardware problem, not something that you can solve with a script.

Ah, so you're telling me there's nothing that can be done to repair it? Cuz, my device isn't in warranty(I just replaced the casing)...

thedarkcoder said:
Ah, so you're telling me there's nothing that can be done to repair it? Cuz, my device isn't in warranty(I just replaced the casing)...
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I don't know.. I don't want to be pessimistic, maybe you can search for similar problem in internet and a possibile solution, not just for Desire but in general for devices that have hardkeys. Maybe like use a spray for electric contacts while device is turn off and wait that it's completly dry before turn it on. Good luck.

I can't remember it, but I think that this problem appeared only after I got my casing changed. Could the technician have done something wrong? Can I send it to the man that changed the casing?

It's probably just some dust that gathered underneath the buttons. I had the same problem with the volume down button. I used a needle to clean the dust around it, and then it worked perfectly.

I dont think it could be due to the dust, cuz there are three buttons which simultaneously stop and start working... It's a bit strange tho..

I have issues now with my power button. It's unreliable... that is, the button sometimes works. Sometimes when I press it, it opens the shutdown menu..
Started all of a sudden. Not sure how that happened... and it's out of warrenty for 4 months now..

That is why I use Button Savior

Same!
I am getting the same problem. I have replaced the keypad flex with a new one and still getting the same issue. It would start working randomly like if I open the browser and open many tabs, then it would work. Funny thing is that they would not even work when I go in recovery.
My desire is 2yrs old now but I still love it.

shricker said:
I am getting the same problem. I have replaced the keypad flex with a new one and still getting the same issue. It would start working randomly like if I open the browser and open many tabs, then it would work. Funny thing is that they would not even work when I go in recovery.
My desire is 2yrs old now but I still love it.
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Same problem here.
Mostly happens with Home and menù. Less often with volume buttons.
For now I'm using the "button saviour app" workaround, but if is something hardware I will know it very soon... (made a copy of my rom on a friend's HTC Desire)

thedarkcoder said:
I can't remember it, but I think that this problem appeared only after I got my casing changed. Could the technician have done something wrong? Can I send it to the man that changed the casing?
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thedarkcoder said:
I dont think it could be due to the dust, cuz there are three buttons which simultaneously stop and start working... It's a bit strange tho..
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All three buttons simultaneously! Buttons usually fail gradually one by one and drive you mad finally. I would put my money on the keypads being misaligned during whatever you got done with casing. Take it back to him.
If its some kind of misalignment no amount of sprays will help.
BTW I use zmooth for button conservation

use soft key instead
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I had the same issues : menu button working randomly, had to press very strong on up/down volume buttons.
I've dismounted my phone (using this : http://www.formymobile.co.uk/desiredisassembly.php ), and I saw that there were a lot of dust, hairs.. I tried to clean up/down volume buttons the best way I could, and they both work so much better now! Not totally perfect though.
By the way, I noticed that there was a lot of compressed dust in micro-USB connector and was able to remove it fully (thing I couldn't do without dismounting phone).
I didn't want to go farther to access menu/home buttons because I didn't have time and Menu button works quite OK.

I have the same issue here with the volume buttons they tend to get unresponsive and unreliable.
Even though all the parts were renewed since six months ago, the volume buttons are probably bad designed?

Holland1994D said:
I have the same issue here with the volume buttons they tend to get unresponsive and unreliable.
Even though all the parts were renewed since six months ago, the volume buttons are probably bad designed?
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You could replace bad working buttons' functions with others'. My volume down isn't working, so I made my search button act like a vol down.

Buy the new one
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[Ghetto Fix] for broken power button issue (t989)

Symptoms:
Extreme Case: Once phone is plugged in or battery inserted, phone vibrates constantly and never progresses further through the boot cycle.
Moderate Case: Phone is able to make it to Samsung logo, or sometimes even further, but never fails to reboot and remain stuck in this cycle.
Preliminary Case: Phone randomly reboots for no reason, or when power button is gently touched (not hard pressed)
Problem:
1) Either phone button is sticky for some reason (ewww) and gets stuck, causing phone to reboot.
2) Or, (more severe cases) the internal switch is beginning to malfunction (common) and needs to be replaced in order to really fix the problem.
Fixes:
1) If the button is sticky, simply clean it you sicko and quit being dirty. Plenty of guides on how to open the phone on Youtube. (This is not really a big issue though)
2) Faulty hardware is going to require some major work to be completely fixed.
Ghetto Fix:
Intro: My phone is showing preliminary issues of the common switch malfunction issue. I read around and it seems that Samsung just failed with that portion of the hardware. My brother's phone, on the other hand, was an extreme case and was basically a brick in my room for a few months until I decided to fix it. It's not a profound fix, so I'm sorry for those who really want this issue solved. If you do, I recommend either replacing the part yourself or taking it to a shop to repair it for you. This fix is for those of you who might have an fully functioning galaxy s2 laying around, with the exception of that stupid button.
1) You will need to know how to open up your phone. There are many guides on Youtube. Be very careful doing so.
2) Ghetto Button Fix (Two Options) *From here on I will have to make a distinction between the two senses of "power button" I am talking about: There is the power button on the logic board (LB Power Button [my term]) and the one on the outside of the phone---the (P Power Button [my term]) is the one you see and press when your phone is put together and working fine--the (LB Power Button) is the switch attached to the logic board
a. The first ghetto fix will work if your case is not too severe, and it will look less ghetto. When you open your phone and separate all the parts, you are left with a good view of the (P Power Button)--you will notice that a small rubbery rectangular portion of the power button--file that off completely to prevent the (P Power Button) from touching the logic board power button (LB Power Button).
*Note: This will not be a fix for more extreme cases because the (P Power Button) can still reach the (LB Power Button). This will only make it less likely for the two to make contact when you do not want it to. Also note that the issue is not with the two making contact, it is a faulty switch. Anything from a quick jolt or vibration, or even gravity can be enough to set it into a looped cycle.
b. If the first one doesn't work, then simply remove the power button (P Power Button) entirely. With my brother's phone, I simply removed the button and reversed it. This way, there is no way for the two to make contact, even when pressed. We gorilla taped it into position.
*Note: The issue with this fix was that the phone could not be turned off (unless you take off the tape and access the switch to turn it back on). I gave him my extended battery to ensure he would not run out, and Installed a custom Rom which allowed him to use the volume keys to wake his phone from sleep (this might come stock in previous versions of andoid--dunno though), and change the power key/lock screen key to long pressing the home button. That way there is no need for the power button as long as the phone is on. (We used Beanstalk Rom 4.3) for this and it has been working flawlessly. **Since installing custom roms and rooting only requires reboot, it is still possible with a phone with a power button issue.
3) How to stop the boot cycle: It might be quite obvious, but just to state it--in order to stop the reboot cycle and "unstuck" the power switch, simply press the power button down a few times patiently until it remains stable. **Pressing it harder does not increase your chances! Remember to be gentle because you are working with a switch that is already faulty!
*Note:When the power button is removed, you can use some non-metal pointy object to press down the power switch inside the phone. You want to do this carefully, as you will notice that even the slightest touch of the switch, even if you don't press the button down, will send it into loop. Once you get the phone on and stable. Seal up the hole and the phone should be fine as long as it doesn't shut off.
Forgive me, I don't know how to make tutorials. Tried to catch everything I ran into along the way, but I noticed it's quite wordy. Hope this helps someone!

itsfredo said:
Symptoms:
Extreme Case: Once phone is plugged in or battery inserted, phone vibrates constantly and never progresses further through the boot cycle.
Moderate Case: Phone is able to make it to Samsung logo, or sometimes even further, but never fails to reboot and remain stuck in this cycle.
Preliminary Case: Phone randomly reboots for no reason, or when power button is gently touched (not hard pressed)
Problem:
1) Either phone button is sticky for some reason (ewww) and gets stuck, causing phone to reboot.
2) Or, (more severe cases) the internal switch is beginning to malfunction (common) and needs to be replaced in order to really fix the problem.
Fixes:
1) If the button is sticky, simply clean it you sicko and quit being dirty. Plenty of guides on how to open the phone on Youtube. (This is not really a big issue though)
2) Faulty hardware is going to require some major work to be completely fixed.
Ghetto Fix:
Intro: My phone is showing preliminary issues of the common switch malfunction issue. I read around and it seems that Samsung just failed with that portion of the hardware. My brother's phone, on the other hand, was an extreme case and was basically a brick in my room for a few months until I decided to fix it. It's not a profound fix, so I'm sorry for those who really want this issue solved. If you do, I recommend either replacing the part yourself or taking it to a shop to repair it for you. This fix is for those of you who might have an fully functioning galaxy s2 laying around, with the exception of that stupid button.
1) You will need to know how to open up your phone. There are many guides on Youtube. Be very careful doing so.
2) Ghetto Button Fix (Two Options) *From here on I will have to make a distinction between the two senses of "power button" I am talking about: There is the power button on the logic board (LB Power Button [my term]) and the one on the outside of the phone---the (P Power Button [my term]) is the one you see and press when your phone is put together and working fine--the (LB Power Button) is the switch attached to the logic board
a. The first ghetto fix will work if your case is not too severe, and it will look less ghetto. When you open your phone and separate all the parts, you are left with a good view of the (P Power Button)--you will notice that a small rubbery rectangular portion of the power button--file that off completely to prevent the (P Power Button) from touching the logic board power button (LB Power Button).
*Note: This will not be a fix for more extreme cases because the (P Power Button) can still reach the (LB Power Button). This will only make it less likely for the two to make contact when you do not want it to. Also note that the issue is not with the two making contact, it is a faulty switch. Anything from a quick jolt or vibration, or even gravity can be enough to set it into a looped cycle.
b. If the first one doesn't work, then simply remove the power button (P Power Button) entirely. With my brother's phone, I simply removed the button and reversed it. This way, there is no way for the two to make contact, even when pressed. We gorilla taped it into position.
*Note: The issue with this fix was that the phone could not be turned off (unless you take off the tape and access the switch to turn it back on). I gave him my extended battery to ensure he would not run out, and Installed a custom Rom which allowed him to use the volume keys to wake his phone from sleep (this might come stock in previous versions of andoid--dunno though), and change the power key/lock screen key to long pressing the home button. That way there is no need for the power button as long as the phone is on. (We used Beanstalk Rom 4.3) for this and it has been working flawlessly. **Since installing custom roms and rooting only requires reboot, it is still possible with a phone with a power button issue.
3) How to stop the boot cycle: It might be quite obvious, but just to state it--in order to stop the reboot cycle and "unstuck" the power switch, simply press the power button down a few times patiently until it remains stable. **Pressing it harder does not increase your chances! Remember to be gentle because you are working with a switch that is already faulty!
*Note:When the power button is removed, you can use some non-metal pointy object to press down the power switch inside the phone. You want to do this carefully, as you will notice that even the slightest touch of the switch, even if you don't press the button down, will send it into loop. Once you get the phone on and stable. Seal up the hole and the phone should be fine as long as it doesn't shut off.
Forgive me, I don't know how to make tutorials. Tried to catch everything I ran into along the way, but I noticed it's quite wordy. Hope this helps someone!
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Or you can remove the power button from the board completely and the outer assembly from the case. Essentially a hole use a paper clip to short the pins to power on/off
Or you can remove one of the volume button and replace it with the lower button

mecha2012 said:
Or you can remove the power button from the board completely and the outer assembly from the case. Essentially a hole use a paper clip to short the pins to power on/off
Or you can remove one of the volume button and replace it with the lower button
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Thanks for this. This would be a better and more permanent fix in the sense that it would almost guarantee the switch will not act up.
The only thing is, I've seen tutorials on how to take off the button from the logic board and it requires some pretty crazy equipment. More specifically, in the tutorial I saw, the guy used a hot air gun to melt the solder and some other fancy equipment.
Also, would using a paper clip be a danger to the entire logic board?

Any help for stuck power button?

Have had my phone for months, but suddenly the power button stopped working properly.
It's stuck in a recessed state and has no "click" to it anymore. It's very hard to press, but if I use my nail and push it in the power button does feature, but again no "click" or response to the button press. More than anything I am worried about it becoming permanently broken, likely leaving the phone unusable.
Due to some location/warranty issues, I think getting the phone replaced (for now) is near-impossible/not really feasible.
I am in New Zealand where Google doesn't have any presence and I am unsure if any local "phone repair" shops might even be able to fix it - especially if any replacement parts are needed.
Does anyone have any thoughts or advice to try and fix the button myself? It was in a case since day 1 and I cannot recall any single time a drop would have happened or some dirt/sand/etc. would have gotten in and stuck. I used a "rocket blower" I use for my camera gear to just blow the button area, but no change.
Happy to provide more info if needed... all help is more than greatly appreciated!!!

Kaitlyn2004 said:
Have had my phone for months, but suddenly the power button stopped working properly.
It's stuck in a recessed state and has no "click" to it anymore. It's very hard to press, but if I use my nail and push it in the power button does feature, but again no "click" or response to the button press. More than anything I am worried about it becoming permanently broken, likely leaving the phone unusable.
Due to some location/warranty issues, I think getting the phone replaced (for now) is near-impossible/not really feasible.
I am in New Zealand where Google doesn't have any presence and I am unsure if any local "phone repair" shops might even be able to fix it - especially if any replacement parts are needed.
Does anyone have any thoughts or advice to try and fix the button myself? It was in a case since day 1 and I cannot recall any single time a drop would have happened or some dirt/sand/etc. would have gotten in and stuck. I used a "rocket blower" I use for my camera gear to just blow the button area, but no change.
Happy to provide more info if needed... all help is more than greatly appreciated!!!
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All I can recommend is a soft key power button...on statusbar or navbar. You need to be rooted.

I use Fingerprint Quick Action app but same deal (root I think). With it I assigned double tap to fingerprint reader to turn off the display.
As for power button replacement, iFixit teardown of the XL doesn't look like an easy DIY thing, with display damage a likely scenario during disassembly. Good luck with that.

It's not a fix but for the moment Nova louncher has great gestures to lock the screen swiping up or down, double tap and more.

I know how this sounds, but try sealing your lips around it and give it a good suck. Like you'll feel that you're sucking air through other gaps in the housing. Popped my button out and it's clicking again. Might only be a temporary fix, but it's been a couple of days without an issue for me. Damn thing has been bugging me for about a month, sometimes getting stuck long enough to hard-reboot the phone. Almost felt like there was some sticky **** under the button.