Symptoms:
Extreme Case: Once phone is plugged in or battery inserted, phone vibrates constantly and never progresses further through the boot cycle.
Moderate Case: Phone is able to make it to Samsung logo, or sometimes even further, but never fails to reboot and remain stuck in this cycle.
Preliminary Case: Phone randomly reboots for no reason, or when power button is gently touched (not hard pressed)
Problem:
1) Either phone button is sticky for some reason (ewww) and gets stuck, causing phone to reboot.
2) Or, (more severe cases) the internal switch is beginning to malfunction (common) and needs to be replaced in order to really fix the problem.
Fixes:
1) If the button is sticky, simply clean it you sicko and quit being dirty. Plenty of guides on how to open the phone on Youtube. (This is not really a big issue though)
2) Faulty hardware is going to require some major work to be completely fixed.
Ghetto Fix:
Intro: My phone is showing preliminary issues of the common switch malfunction issue. I read around and it seems that Samsung just failed with that portion of the hardware. My brother's phone, on the other hand, was an extreme case and was basically a brick in my room for a few months until I decided to fix it. It's not a profound fix, so I'm sorry for those who really want this issue solved. If you do, I recommend either replacing the part yourself or taking it to a shop to repair it for you. This fix is for those of you who might have an fully functioning galaxy s2 laying around, with the exception of that stupid button.
1) You will need to know how to open up your phone. There are many guides on Youtube. Be very careful doing so.
2) Ghetto Button Fix (Two Options) *From here on I will have to make a distinction between the two senses of "power button" I am talking about: There is the power button on the logic board (LB Power Button [my term]) and the one on the outside of the phone---the (P Power Button [my term]) is the one you see and press when your phone is put together and working fine--the (LB Power Button) is the switch attached to the logic board
a. The first ghetto fix will work if your case is not too severe, and it will look less ghetto. When you open your phone and separate all the parts, you are left with a good view of the (P Power Button)--you will notice that a small rubbery rectangular portion of the power button--file that off completely to prevent the (P Power Button) from touching the logic board power button (LB Power Button).
*Note: This will not be a fix for more extreme cases because the (P Power Button) can still reach the (LB Power Button). This will only make it less likely for the two to make contact when you do not want it to. Also note that the issue is not with the two making contact, it is a faulty switch. Anything from a quick jolt or vibration, or even gravity can be enough to set it into a looped cycle.
b. If the first one doesn't work, then simply remove the power button (P Power Button) entirely. With my brother's phone, I simply removed the button and reversed it. This way, there is no way for the two to make contact, even when pressed. We gorilla taped it into position.
*Note: The issue with this fix was that the phone could not be turned off (unless you take off the tape and access the switch to turn it back on). I gave him my extended battery to ensure he would not run out, and Installed a custom Rom which allowed him to use the volume keys to wake his phone from sleep (this might come stock in previous versions of andoid--dunno though), and change the power key/lock screen key to long pressing the home button. That way there is no need for the power button as long as the phone is on. (We used Beanstalk Rom 4.3) for this and it has been working flawlessly. **Since installing custom roms and rooting only requires reboot, it is still possible with a phone with a power button issue.
3) How to stop the boot cycle: It might be quite obvious, but just to state it--in order to stop the reboot cycle and "unstuck" the power switch, simply press the power button down a few times patiently until it remains stable. **Pressing it harder does not increase your chances! Remember to be gentle because you are working with a switch that is already faulty!
*Note:When the power button is removed, you can use some non-metal pointy object to press down the power switch inside the phone. You want to do this carefully, as you will notice that even the slightest touch of the switch, even if you don't press the button down, will send it into loop. Once you get the phone on and stable. Seal up the hole and the phone should be fine as long as it doesn't shut off.
Forgive me, I don't know how to make tutorials. Tried to catch everything I ran into along the way, but I noticed it's quite wordy. Hope this helps someone!
itsfredo said:
Symptoms:
Extreme Case: Once phone is plugged in or battery inserted, phone vibrates constantly and never progresses further through the boot cycle.
Moderate Case: Phone is able to make it to Samsung logo, or sometimes even further, but never fails to reboot and remain stuck in this cycle.
Preliminary Case: Phone randomly reboots for no reason, or when power button is gently touched (not hard pressed)
Problem:
1) Either phone button is sticky for some reason (ewww) and gets stuck, causing phone to reboot.
2) Or, (more severe cases) the internal switch is beginning to malfunction (common) and needs to be replaced in order to really fix the problem.
Fixes:
1) If the button is sticky, simply clean it you sicko and quit being dirty. Plenty of guides on how to open the phone on Youtube. (This is not really a big issue though)
2) Faulty hardware is going to require some major work to be completely fixed.
Ghetto Fix:
Intro: My phone is showing preliminary issues of the common switch malfunction issue. I read around and it seems that Samsung just failed with that portion of the hardware. My brother's phone, on the other hand, was an extreme case and was basically a brick in my room for a few months until I decided to fix it. It's not a profound fix, so I'm sorry for those who really want this issue solved. If you do, I recommend either replacing the part yourself or taking it to a shop to repair it for you. This fix is for those of you who might have an fully functioning galaxy s2 laying around, with the exception of that stupid button.
1) You will need to know how to open up your phone. There are many guides on Youtube. Be very careful doing so.
2) Ghetto Button Fix (Two Options) *From here on I will have to make a distinction between the two senses of "power button" I am talking about: There is the power button on the logic board (LB Power Button [my term]) and the one on the outside of the phone---the (P Power Button [my term]) is the one you see and press when your phone is put together and working fine--the (LB Power Button) is the switch attached to the logic board
a. The first ghetto fix will work if your case is not too severe, and it will look less ghetto. When you open your phone and separate all the parts, you are left with a good view of the (P Power Button)--you will notice that a small rubbery rectangular portion of the power button--file that off completely to prevent the (P Power Button) from touching the logic board power button (LB Power Button).
*Note: This will not be a fix for more extreme cases because the (P Power Button) can still reach the (LB Power Button). This will only make it less likely for the two to make contact when you do not want it to. Also note that the issue is not with the two making contact, it is a faulty switch. Anything from a quick jolt or vibration, or even gravity can be enough to set it into a looped cycle.
b. If the first one doesn't work, then simply remove the power button (P Power Button) entirely. With my brother's phone, I simply removed the button and reversed it. This way, there is no way for the two to make contact, even when pressed. We gorilla taped it into position.
*Note: The issue with this fix was that the phone could not be turned off (unless you take off the tape and access the switch to turn it back on). I gave him my extended battery to ensure he would not run out, and Installed a custom Rom which allowed him to use the volume keys to wake his phone from sleep (this might come stock in previous versions of andoid--dunno though), and change the power key/lock screen key to long pressing the home button. That way there is no need for the power button as long as the phone is on. (We used Beanstalk Rom 4.3) for this and it has been working flawlessly. **Since installing custom roms and rooting only requires reboot, it is still possible with a phone with a power button issue.
3) How to stop the boot cycle: It might be quite obvious, but just to state it--in order to stop the reboot cycle and "unstuck" the power switch, simply press the power button down a few times patiently until it remains stable. **Pressing it harder does not increase your chances! Remember to be gentle because you are working with a switch that is already faulty!
*Note:When the power button is removed, you can use some non-metal pointy object to press down the power switch inside the phone. You want to do this carefully, as you will notice that even the slightest touch of the switch, even if you don't press the button down, will send it into loop. Once you get the phone on and stable. Seal up the hole and the phone should be fine as long as it doesn't shut off.
Forgive me, I don't know how to make tutorials. Tried to catch everything I ran into along the way, but I noticed it's quite wordy. Hope this helps someone!
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Or you can remove the power button from the board completely and the outer assembly from the case. Essentially a hole use a paper clip to short the pins to power on/off
Or you can remove one of the volume button and replace it with the lower button
mecha2012 said:
Or you can remove the power button from the board completely and the outer assembly from the case. Essentially a hole use a paper clip to short the pins to power on/off
Or you can remove one of the volume button and replace it with the lower button
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Thanks for this. This would be a better and more permanent fix in the sense that it would almost guarantee the switch will not act up.
The only thing is, I've seen tutorials on how to take off the button from the logic board and it requires some pretty crazy equipment. More specifically, in the tutorial I saw, the guy used a hot air gun to melt the solder and some other fancy equipment.
Also, would using a paper clip be a danger to the entire logic board?
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Hi all
wondering if someone might be able to give me hand
my phone is rooted and am running CM10 stable and was working fine for about 3 months.
this morning i went to use the calculator and then the phone rebooted, and will not come back up.
I keeps viberating every coupel fo seconds. Tried to hold down power button but nothing happens. yanked battery and and reboot and i see the samsung slapscreen then it goes back to viberating
I tried to yank the battery, while holding down the power volume up/down to get into recovery but no luck. tried to yank battery and hold down volumne up/ down trying to get into download mode but also no luck
wondering if there might something i can try to get my phone back working
take care
i tried to take the phone apart to see if the power button was stuck but still now luck
Sounds like a power button issue. Its not that it gets stuck physically, the power switch gets messed up and acts as if its being held down. You can replace the switch or try a ghetto fix. I had to remove the power button from the case from my brothers phone. I took it out then plugged the hole with it by taping it on from the outside.
There are a few ROMs out there that allow you to use alternate buttons to turn off the phone and use volume keys to wake it up. So you will only need the power button to turn on the phone when its off completely. For my brothers phone I use a toothpick since I removed the power button.
It is just beginning to mess up on my phone bit it wasn't a severe enough case for me to remove the power button.
I would recommend trying to fidget with the button a bit, trying to see if you can get it out of the power loop (endless vibrating). What I do is pull the battery and press the button a few times. I even flick that corner of the phone a few times. Then I put the batter back in and see if it stopped cycling. If not I try to press the button a few more times and or give it a flick or two with the battery in. There seems to be no direct method that works but it eventually stabalizes.
If it does stabalize, I'd recommend testing to see how sensitive it is. If you can't put it in your pocket or even the slightest movement makes it cycle. I'd say you need to remove the power button or have the power switch replaced. If it stabilizes I would just get a ROM with the options I mentioned and stop touching the power button.
Phone randomly turns off/reboots (mostly reboots). Sometimes the phone won't go past the "SAMSUNG" screen on boot. I booted the phone into recovery and download mode multiple times but it'll reboot after a minute or two.
I've tried another battery and still had the same issue. I've removed the battery and held the power button down to discharge power. I've opened up the phone, blew the dust out, and made sure that the power button was not getting stuck. I'm fairly certain it's not a rogue app causing the issue, but I've factory reset the phone to stock.
Please advise!
dwrdbg said:
Phone randomly turns off/reboots (mostly reboots). Sometimes the phone won't go past the "SAMSUNG" screen on boot. I booted the phone into recovery and download mode multiple times but it'll reboot after a minute or two.
I've tried another battery and still had the same issue. I've removed the battery and held the power button down to discharge power. I've opened up the phone, blew the dust out, and made sure that the power button was not getting stuck. I'm fairly certain it's not a rogue app causing the issue, but I've factory reset the phone to stock.
Please advise!
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if you have a sd card, sometimes a funky sd card will cause this as well. remove yours for a while to check if its causing your issue
Sounds like the same problem I was having. Take your finger and lightly move it up and down over the power button.. if it acts up or reboots it could be the button issue..
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I was having the EXACT same issue. I thought it might be the recent upgrade to the cm11 nightlies since before it was once a week but now it's just non-stop. Is the issue the actual power button switch or the plastic buttons?
Orion78 said:
Sounds like the same problem I was having. Take your finger and lightly move it up and down over the power button.. if it acts up or reboots it could be the button issue..
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beantek said:
I was having the EXACT same issue. I thought it might be the recent upgrade to the cm11 nightlies since before it was once a week but now it's just non-stop. Is the issue the actual power button switch or the plastic buttons?
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For me it was the power button itself.. Read my post on how to fix the issue yourself if you dont want to take your phone into Sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679936
Fixed (kind of )
I've taken my phone apart before to replace the speaker/audio jack module after my headphone jack stopped working in one ear (also a common s3 problem). I did as suggested and added a piece of paper wedged in between the button and the button switch. Surprisingly the switch was perfectly clicky so any problem will have to be internally such as corrosion or just worn out. The problem seemed to have been fixed (kind of, not really) as the phone turned on and wouldn't freak out when I rubbed the power/hold button. I got all my data off the phone successfully. The buttons themselves are pretty cheap online but I don't want to have to solder considering I have an upgrade. I'll just get an S5 whenever they are available. Thanks for the help.
Orion78 said:
For me it was the power button itself.. Read my post on how to fix the issue yourself if you dont want to take your phone into Sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2679936
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I'd like to thank everyone for their suggestions. I determined that it was in fact a power button issue.
My "FIX" (for anyone with similar issues):
Temporary:
I removed the logic board from the phone and flicked the button up and down and that helped a little with the button's hypersensitivity. Because a slight tap would make the button "stick" and power off, I took apart the phone and physically removed the plastic power button. I could hit the button if necessary with a small screwdriver or my watch strap thingy, but I did my best to keep the battery from dying out. As for dealing with a lack of "lock" button, I installed an xposed module that let me remap my volume up button as a lock button.
Permanent:
My mother recently upgraded her phone and gave me her S3. Unfortunately it had a cracked screen. I removed her logic board and swapped it out with what was in phone and reactivated her phone as mine.
Thanks for everyone's help, and hopefully this can help someone else too!
If I were to attempt to fix this issue myself, how would I go about doing it? I ordered a new power button but I'm worried that the problem lies internally requiring me to take apart the phone rather than just replacing a simple button. The power button is so loose that if you make any contact on it, it will turn on/off. If I press it down, it makes a click sound as usual but the screen flickers on and off.
karmasblade said:
If I were to attempt to fix this issue myself, how would I go about doing it? I ordered a new power button but I'm worried that the problem lies internally requiring me to take apart the phone rather than just replacing a simple button. The power button is so loose that if you make any contact on it, it will turn on/off. If I press it down, it makes a click sound as usual but the screen flickers on and off.
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Replacing the power button requires opening up the phone. Unless you are certain you have the correct tools and technical expertise for this, you may want to consider taking it to a tech shop or pro outlet. This may cost you a bit but could be overall less bothersome.
Hi everybody,
I have sometimes a strange problem :
- the volume down button doesn't work anymore.
- I can't use the power button to turn on / off my phone, but it works as I can press it 3 times to open camera. On the contrary, I can't use it to ask for reboot, but it works for soft reset! Aaaaaarrgh! Brain pain!
When I try to soft reset, my phone enters in safety mode, as if I pressed the volume down button during restart.
In bootloader, I can't use power and volume down button. Quite annoying.
Sometimes, volume is turning down without pressing any button.
But what is weird is that my phone shifts from normal state (all buttons working) to defect state and back to normal state again without doing anything. It's unpredictable. It can work well for decades, then stops working fine for hours or days then back to normal.
Sometimes, when it works well, when I'm using it, it goes wrong without doing anything. I'm reading my favorite site and volume is suddenly going down. Without warning, without even touching a button.
I have to say one more thing. I picked up that phone from a coworker, and the volume button is a bit bent near volume up (picture needed?) but it worked fine for months before starting to mess.
I hope you'll be able to help me.
Sorry for my English, it's not my native tongue.
Seems to me like a hardware problem.
What I'd do honestly is to hit it repeatedly on a hard surface, but please, do not do that
If you can I suggest taking it apart and making sure all the ribbons are firmly set in place and undamaged. It can be an one way ticket for damaging the phone for good though, so wait for other suggestions too.
Thanks for your answer.
What is making me angry is that it also does this when left alone on the table : I let it there working perfectly and when I pick it up again, it fails.
And when it fails, once again I let it alone and suddenly the volume goes down, without even touching it. Raging.
its a hardware problem, u have to change the volumes and power flex, had the same problem with the powern button, i turn the phone off, and a few secons later it power on by himself till i change the flex
Did you take the phone apart recently? I had my battery replaced and that's when my Volume up started phantom pressing. I hit the phone repeatedly on a flat service and made sure to kind of slap it so it would impact kinda evenly as to not dent the case, it worked for about a week at a time, then I just took the phone apart and tried to align everything and made sure all the insulation tape was flat and and not bunched up and now it's fine. We'll except my USB port has got some giggle to it. Order a new USB of amazon for like $9, I'm trying to hold out for a LG V30
So I have a OnePlus 3 since it was released and my power button started not working properly about a year ago.
And today I found out that the power button was not working at all anymore no matter how hard I pressed.
At first it was clicking twice instead of once (shortcut to open the camera), or I had to press it very hard to make it work.
I found some workarounds (double tap to wake, double tap to lock, etc).
So when the device is powered on, it's fine I can do everything I need.
The problem is when I need to poweroff the device (changing sim card) or when it runs out of battery.
On some other threads people say to hold the volume down button and to plug the phone to a computer.
But it doesn't work for me, when I do that the device goes to the bootlogo (before the romlogo) and is stuck there.
Any help or idea appreciated.
Also I am not willing to change the power button because it seems hard to take apart the device according to this tutorial : https://fr.ifixit.com/Tutoriel/OnePlus+3+Power+and+Volume+Button+Assembly+Replacement/76019
I am on Lineage16 if that can help.
I feel you. I have broken power button since august... Found workarouns like you. But for me, power button starts to work after one or two weeks so i think it is software issue. But about replacing power button you are really wrong. OnePlus 3 is one of the easiest phones to repair. The thing is, you dont need heat gun to warm adheasive... You just take out screws and pop out the screen. This is kinda one of the reason why i took my phone so i can change battery with no problems or do any other repair by myself. But in the past 3 year i did not need to take apart my phone ?*. You can look up jerryrigeverything he tears down oneplus3 and shows everything step by step. Its indeed really easy, compared to other phones.
Plz answer this then I have replaced power and volume ribbon cable twice with new ones and my power button still not working volume is fine though and I want to unlock bootloader but without power button I can not select the option to do so?