As we can completely fix the camera in custom roms? - Amazon Fire Phone

Hello, I would like to be cleared once the problems with the camera in custom roms, I love CM11 and SlimKat but is torture not to use whatsapp web, MSQRD, Snapchat, QR code reader, among others. So I wanted to ask if I can lead to put my grain of sand on this issue and try to fix it, I tried to change the file "camera.msm8974.so" but do not get good results, maybe if more people join to try to solve it we get results...

You probably want to talk to @ggow on his CM forum, Not here.

EzzBMTH said:
I tried to change the file "camera.msm8974.so" but do not get good results
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ggow said:
the HAL is intimately tied to the ov680 image processor and other hardware specifics
ggow said:
- The ROM has issues with the camera [...] which can not be fixed at the moment because of amazon's custom HAL interface
- It's a wonder the camera is working at all
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Changing a single (native) lib is sadly not enough.
Even with ggow's skill set it would take a ridiculous amount of hours of "engineering" and even then it may not be enough.
And it's not just any phone but the "hunchback of Amazon", so most people will be like: "Why should I invest time in this device, when I can frolic around with a Sony, HTC, LG, etc."

Bingo Bronson said:
Changing a single (native) lib is sadly not enough.
Even with ggow's skill set it would take a ridiculous amount of hours of "engineering" and even then it may not be enough.
And it's not just any phone but the "hunchback of Amazon", so most people will be like: "Why should I invest time in this device, when I can frolic around with a Sony, HTC, LG, etc."
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You, good sir, are an inspiration. I'm not sure how you keep your responses to painfully redundant questions so measured and light hearted.

Plonko said:
You, good sir, are an inspiration. I'm not sure how you keep your responses to painfully redundant questions so measured and light hearted.
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Well thank you. Usually I'm known as the "salty *****". :laugh:
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maybe if more people join to try to solve it we get results...
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I get EzzBMTH's enthusiasm / point of view but the reality is harsh and simple:
The developers at Lab126 were given the order to customize it and lock it down as good as possible.
The Fire Phone is / was also the "last" product in line, development wise. A bunch of different tablets already existed, so Amazon could learn from past "mistakes" / vulnerabilities.
And releasing information about HAL / Kernel code would be a tragedy in their eyes, since all the "secrets" would be out in the open and they would have to completely change their concept for future releases.

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why are we waiting...

Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
I got my 5x last Tuesday and forgot how little I like "pure" android. I think the usual progression is flash aosp then flash cyanogenmod once the nightlies start to stabilize. I know I'm in the minority but the nexus phones usually have too much Google on them for my taste. I like the hardware, but the software is another story.
At any rate, I'm also waiting for the binaries and device tree so that I can start building my own.
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Waiting for the sources that is, what are porters planning on sticking on this? Personally I want the sources to attempt to port Sailfish, only reason I bough the phone. I currently have the Nexus 5 and the OS runs buttery smooth thanks to the porters over at #sailfishos-porters
Am even wondering did I make a mistake buying this device when the Nexus 5, is more than enough omph to power the OS. But I've got it and gotta try, to atleast expand my own knowledge base.
also do you guys know how chainfire managed to build the kernel for it without the sources?
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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WTF?
The phone has been out for less than a month. Have some patience or start learning to develop yourself, rather than creating a useless thread, just to whine.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
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If you knew much about how android works, you'd know that chainfire didn't make a kernel. He took the boot image and modified some fstab, prop, and sepolicy stuff, repackaged it, and released it. He didn't build his own kernel.
In any case, I'm curious about this, how long does it usually take google to release their sources?
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Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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oh yeah Ill just go and create a kernel, and while am at it, I may as well write my own drivers. Maybe I'll call my kernel linox, and adopt this policy of sharing my source code so other people could collaborate. Maybe using some sort of version control, call Hit or something, maybe on some website called HitHub.
Yeah that sounds like a good way to develop it...Or Google could hurry the **** up and release the sources and binaries so I wouldn't have to.
Well if you read my post you'd see I was curious about what people wanted to port.
Not make but people have been saying it was built with forceencrypt disabled so I thought he built the kernel with that flag, (ie he had the sources). But it seems thats not the place to change it
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Wow the self-entitlement is real nowadays, patience bro. You cant have everything instantly when you want it.
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what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
m4r0v3r said:
what to expect an open source based phone to have the sources with it?
No I know I can't have everything when I instantly want it, but really what could be the reason for the delay. Since am already pretty pissed about the force encryption.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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I'm sorry, but you sound like a whiney little 12 year old who is used to having everything they want RIGHT when they want it. Kind of sums up the turn this forum has taken over the past couple of years.
In the real world you'll learn that good things take time. The phrase, "patience is a virtue" holds true merit.
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Apology accepted.
bblzd said:
Offer a bounty if you're that impatient.
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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For what exactly? Someone to break in Google servers and take the source code? lol
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I'm waiting too- it's not like google is still working on the binary drivers and just building the production rom with hacked up device trees until they get the real ones. I could be mis-remembering, but in the past, I thought the factory roms and binary drivers were available the day the devices were released.
I can certainly understand being patient with devs who are working on roms (for free/beer/donations), but google is done with the rom and has already released it to production. The factory image for the 6p was delayed as well. It's not a secret- they are going to push it to every one who bought a phone. My conspiracy theory is that google is trying to bury aosp, and merging android and chrome will be another stab into the heart of both privacy and freedom.
and its outtt
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and its outtt
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Waiting for some real nexus thing then

Google Pixel Rom Development

Hi guys , as lot of us I want a Pixel Rom with the Pixel Experience and most of all the Pixel Camera (So we can really use our camera sensor )
I have been in talks we some Developers of Pixel Roms and ask them if they would be interested in trying to make a Pixel Rom for our Mi5s and 4 of them answered me with a positive answer.
I'm creating this thread because for them to try to build the Rom we would need to join forces and Donate enought money so we could purchase them a Mi5s.
So if you are interested in a Pixel Rom and don't mind giving up a Buck for the cause just let me know in the Pool to see if this would be possible.
So I created a CrowdFunding campaing to see if we can reach the goal , I set the goal to 460$ to see if we could get two Mi5s to the two Dev's who are most interested.
If you want this to happen just donate 1$ it's a Beer and it would help alot!
http://fnd.us/51Fx7c?ref=sh_96jnqa
How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
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I agree that the Central Post should be here and if we would create on the oher Forums we should link it to this one.
I don't have a Reddit account if you guys don't mind creating for me I would appreciate.
Best regards
Wow i can't wait for it ???
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Wow i can't wait for it
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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i do my best
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Hi there , I think the point would be for him to stay with the device and we would only consider that of sending to another one if the choosen Dev won't be able to do anything per say.
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So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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What I did was asking some Developers from the Pixel section if they would be interested in making a Pixel Rom for the Xiaomi Mi5s and if they would be able to try to Port the Camera Firmware or Algorithms from the Pixel to the Xiaomi Mi5s.
Of course they can't know for sure if they are going to be able to do it but they said they would love to try , and that's the best answer we can get from anyone to be honest.
We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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If there is progress in this direction, then certainly is good news.
I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I would like to help, but like you I'm a software developer and I don't know if I can help with my knowledge. But it's cool to see peoples interested to the improvement of this camera.
When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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I'd like to know this too
Take me?I am responsible for informing the Chinese people of the miui forum
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
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sogou search 小米商城 and download ,I dare say you will come back to thank me(Because recently discounted)
Airborntx said:
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Nexus Experience rom is very similar to pixel. http://www.nxrom.us/mi5splus.html I can't tell a difference from it vs the pixel rom on my 5x other than some LOS features included.
Google photo thinks it's a pixel (unlimited storage)
Flashing the google camera - https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported takes care of the camera part, although I use a separate app for video recording since its video recording is buggy and FCs

Those of us Corrupted

Starting a post for those of us who are stuck without the factory images corrupted. I am one of the idiots who made a backup but didn't save it to my computer so for now I am stuck with a paper weight. If any kind helpful soul has any suggestions for I or the rest of us who may be stuck please let me know as I'm willing to try anything. I'm pretty good with twrp adb and fastboot commands. Thanks otherwise I can wait on the images from Razer I guess just wish we knew when?
Hello there i am posting here full backup factory image of all partitions before to modify anything
https://mega.nz/#F!aRZ1DaZQ!_wBY_8zSkaML97pVbwwOSA
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After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Development is meaning less and less as the push for security is becoming tighter. Soon no device will be able to be secure while having open source development.
If you do get the 5t make sure to flash an aosp based rom before you even set the device up. Mainly with them being caught again mining data and sending to to China.
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After discussing this with a few heavy hitters in the community I have decided to send it in through the RMA process. There is no guarantee we will ever see the system images and after multiple talks with Razers support staff I don't feel good about waiting while my phone depreciates in value. Will probably sell it at swappa for a one plus 5t if we don't get system images by March 1st. Sad cause I really wanted this phone to be great but no development and no system images really set the stage for a failed first model. I'll update this post when I get it back from RMA to verify it was indeed accepted and fixed......fingers crossed.
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Hi, any update?
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Hi, any update?
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Yes they accepted my rma and are in the process of shipping a new one back to me. I will update this thread once I have received the new phone. However given we are still waiting for factory images I might just sell it and look for something else with more development....pixel XL 2 or one plus 5t.
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I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.
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I'm actually really quite disappointed in the time this is taking. I actually had a Nextbit Robin and the factory images were out almost immediately. What on earth is going on here?
A major contributor to me getting this phone was knowing Nextbit were in some way involved and they were very developer friendly. Being a big Razer fan too and hearing about these awesome speakers and silky smooth 120Hz I was totally sold. If I'd known development was this non existent (not the devs faults!), I wouldn't have bought this phone.
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Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:
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Being an anarchist myself, ive been more than tempted to start a boycott on the razer phone (even while owning it myself) - support staff are uninformed, phone is still in beta stages, and no fun for anyone wishing to do development.
Its like the company is trying to rival apple instead just for gamers. Imo they missed the mark a bit and throttled the phones performance by not developing the software fully.
Ive added manual controls for the camera and installed Viper plus an adblocker just so when you play games theres not the constant risk of pop up ads..... Nice idea for a phone not but not well executed, suprising considering the nextbit was its predecessor. And now Razer are talking about the Razer 2, its a joke :silly:
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That's what makes me the most upset. How are you talking about the Razer 2 before even fixing some major bugs on ur current 2 month old phone.
Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.
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Not sure what everyone expected. It's their first device and nextbit only had one device before being bought. It wasn't even that good of a device. So of course this oem will take years to catch up.
As for development, that is becoming g less of a priority for oems. Due to the security risks. Also being its razor you have to expect most of the stuff to be completely closed Sourced and any open source files will lose lots of tweaks.
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All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?
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All I am asking for is the factory images....is that to much to ask for after 3 months?
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Well that depends. Some of the drivers maybe licensed so that they are only in the wild on devices and not allowed to be released in any other fashion. Many things could be causing them not to release it. I could easily see many reasons not to release it.
Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.
Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting
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Will ... We can open thread in there forum and make request to razer to release the stock image and make many people replay on it. And if they close it we can make another one.
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Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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Disappointing Razer is violent against rooting
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.
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Nice way to get yourself banned from their forums all together. But sure, because annoying people always works.
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More and more oems are becoming that way. Root is a security hole and they can't really afford them.
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It's ez to create another account
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It's ez to create another account
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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I have been on the other side of the fence and let me tell you that it is pointless. The tools available to sites go all the way up to the isp when needed. If someone doesn't want you on their site bad enough. Trust me. You won't be. And hiding behind a VPN or changing your iP. Don't do anything.
But you are more then welcome to give it a go.
Razer needs to pay the price for keeping root hard
Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?
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Wow some of you people are quite delusional how this works. Razer never released this as a developers phone, and rooting it is very easy.. I don't know what are are all on about. No, they haven't released factory images yet, but Iirc they don't HAVE to. They met there legal obligations by releasing the kernel source. Yes some of you didn't follow they procedures for twrp and messed up your phone but that's not razer fault. Technically they don't even have to do RMA on those phones but from what I understand they have.
They have already stated they WILL be releasing factory images soon, but it's just not out yet, now you wanna throw a temper tantrum on there forums? How about everyone just calm down and wait.. I know it sux being without a phone, and such a kickass one at that, but you made the choice... At least you know a fix is coming right?
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I agree with you. Mine was dead but fixed it and working again on stock with help of @BakaSenpai. We tried both some ideas and put them together and worked. Still i have the corrupted at the start but working great without issues so far.

Looks like we lost a V30 dev (A.I.S. ROM thread closed)

I really wanted to try out that ROM, as it seemed to check all my boxes for my soon to arrive V30+. Looks like the thread got closed due to some antics & egos, and the dev pulled all the links to the files.
Hoping it gets sorted out at some point....
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I really wanted to try out that ROM, as it seemed to check all my boxes for my soon to arrive V30+. Looks like the thread got closed due to some antics & egos, and the dev pulled all the links to the files.
Hoping it gets sorted out at some point....
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me too
I was waiting for a stable release to my v300s ?
Appreciate the hard work but the rom was very alpha. Everything plus the kitchen sink but needed some work.
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Appreciate the hard work but the rom was very alpha. Everything plus the kitchen sink but needed some work.
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Perhaps, but now.... one less dev for our phones. Saw similar thing in Axon 7 forum, dev ported a bunch of ROMs, get Treble working, then got bored or lack of enough thanks, and split. At least he left the links up.
Ah well...same as it ever was.
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Perhaps, but now.... one less dev for our phones. Saw similar thing in Axon 7 forum, dev ported a bunch of ROMs, get Treble working, then got bored or lack of enough thanks, and split. At least he left the links up.
Ah well...same as it ever was.
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True but that's why treble is great, there's a but load of GSI AOSP roms
From what I've seen so far at least on Axon7, is that most all of the GSIs still have a lot of non-working functions. The advantage of a "modified" stock ROM, is that it uses what was originally written for the device and can utilize all of the features we got the phone for in the first place, DAC, cameras, etc. For me rooted stock, debloated, with a different launcher & maybe some added audio goodies, & I B a happy camper.
But am always watching for custom ROMS that can deliver all the goodies. Fingers crossed. :good:
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Seriously you need to chill down.
Like I already said in one of my previous comments (which you probably asked to be deleted because I was telling the truth) - internet will always be a place for people to hide behind aliases while acting like assholes.
You should have ignored those people or reported them for flaming and offending you, as they are a tiny minority, most of the people actually praised you for your work.
Now ultimately what you do is your choice, but it's kind of a childish thing to do, especially considering the fact that you were also rude towards some people that had no bad intentions.
Once again, I wish you a good luck.
Plus adding less than perfect translation software into the mix can lead to misunderstandings between languages.
There's always some entitled a holes ruining things for everyone, this man put in countless hours building a ROM that rivals anything I've seen as far as features go... And people act like he owes them a frigging wishlist. It's his creation, for himself, that he was kind enough to share with us all. True it wasn't a perfect creation(as few ROMs are), but it clearly said BETA... You can install a ROM but not read, apparently. It's a shame, we lost a great dev.
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There's always some entitled a holes ruining things for everyone, this man put in countless hours building a ROM that rivals anything I've seen as far as features go... And people act like he owes them a frigging wishlist. It's his creation, for himself, that he was kind enough to share with us all. True it wasn't a perfect creation(as few ROMs are), but it clearly said BETA... You can install a ROM but not read, apparently. It's a shame, we lost a great dev.
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Pretty much
We have different definitions of great dev.
I choose quality over quantity.
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We have different definitions of great dev.
I choose quality over quantity.
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Since it was only the one ROM, huh?
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Since it was only the one ROM, huh?
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Exactly. If people didn't like the ROM they could ignore it. Some devs like suggestions, others have a take it or leave it attitude. It's their ROM, so they have that right -- especially when it's not a branded group ROM like Resurrection Remix or something.
christoophat said:
Since it was only the one ROM, huh?
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No. But getting to the point of a stable release helps. Rom was heading in a great direction if he wanted to continue the work. Best feature rich original rom ive seen in quite some time. Last few days of the thread was just asking questions. People were losing wifi, bluetooth and other issues. Someone mentioned volume slider being like 1-300 that pissed him off. Volume slider did nothing between 1-250 though.
This is not entitlement or being a ahole. When a dev decides to throw 1 million new features into a device the dev/creator might lose focus on the devs vision. Unless something was brewing before i entered the thread was nothing a seasoned user of xda/forums couldnt handle.
Rom was inconsistent across the board with parts installed that didnt work. Majority of the features didnt work correctly and we knew this rom was beta. But instead of being up front in the op users like myself didnt know what i was getting into. Nothing mentioned in the op about magisk or xposed not working. That you need to enable 20 apps to stop the annoyong popups all over the place.
Gboard stopped working in cettain apps. Which i woupd have mentioned nicely. Putting things q0 layers deep is sonmething also.
Being upfront would avoid a portion of the questions(atleast the users who read). Workinf smarter vs harder could have avoided some of the bs questions. I believe this rom was one of a kind which brings its own challenges.
Hopefully the dev comes back and shares his work again. Believe in being blunt with folks, enough people lying to us daily.
Conatructive critism. I do appreciate the hard work.
While some on here were harsh, he was a tool himself.
Agree with the above. And again, I feel that language barrier played a part in all this, as I have seen in other threads where non English speaking person reading something in translation that sounds derogatory to him tempers flare & it starts going in the toilet. Awaiting my V30, was searching thru the threads to find which I thought would be what I need. His held some promise, but yeah there were a lot of jumping thru hoops activity to get it installed/working etc per what I was reading thru.There was a dev in the Axon7 section who released like 6 different ROMS, all in the same thread , it became a nightmare just trying to keep track of which ROM was which. I was kind of surprised the mods let it go that way.
Simple & direct is bestest
intruda119 said:
Appreciate the hard work but the rom was very alpha. Everything plus the kitchen sink but needed some work.
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You see, those things make a great dev quit, like just be grateful, the Dev knows those problems and did his best, and all he get was "can you please fix [something] " or people not actually reading the thread properly
It's simple folks. Really. Members who contribute work here don't owe anyone anything. Not updates, fixes, explanations, nothing. This isn't a candy store, and nobody has the right to demand anything from anyone, or criticize anyone for anything. If you don't like someone's work, or it's not up to your standards, then move on to something else, quietly. Or even better, create your own work, anyone can learn. And this site has many resources to help you learn.
On the flip side, people will complain, whine and demand, it can't be avoided. But, we have a report system for anyone over the top or too disrespectful. Or, simply ignore them. Getting upset and lashing out is definitely no way to handle it, and will end up bringing trouble to your door.
This is the internet, without a thick skin, it's a harsh place to be.
Developers do this for free and for fun, and no one has the right to complain about anything. And, if it's not fun anymore, I suggest another hobby. Life's too short to spend time on something that's lost its charm for you.
And so, thread closed. Don't need a thread to debate any of the above. Anyone here could start developing, instead of waiting for others to do it. So let's move on. :good:
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RN8PRO Being left out - Again!

TWRP just announced official support for the RN8 and RN8T on the Snapdragon 665 but the RN8PRO is still being left out...
I'm very stubborn and i defend my purchase decisions like it's my life but even I'm starting to get a bit frustrated...
https://www.xda-developers.com/twrp-supports-redmi-note-8-8t-xiaomi-mi-9-realme-x2-pro/
It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....
Helhound0 said:
TWRP just announced official support for the RN8 and RN8T on the Snapdragon 665 but the RN8PRO is still being left out...
I'm very stubborn and i defend my purchase decisions like it's my life but even I'm starting to get a bit frustrated...
https://www.xda-developers.com/twrp-supports-redmi-note-8-8t-xiaomi-mi-9-realme-x2-pro/
It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....
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Lol can't you don't know that TWRP founder will be getting this device, how can you think like that?
Helhound0 said:
It's a damn shame because this is such an awesome handset....
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This. It really is a nice device.
Some people are taking scrap and accept it as a full meal;
and maybe that's fine, cause maybe it's all we are going to get.
Remember that the Redmi Note 7 still dont have a official version to this very day.
The current root methods described here on XDA for the RN8Pro feels like…
Mashed potatoes with more or less broken english and few drops of luck, just for good measure...
Sorry, I got sidetracked a little bit;
Stay stronK M8, maybe it's still coming. Maybe.
NMRH said:
This. It really is a nice device.
Some people are taking scrap and accept it as a full meal;
and maybe that's fine, cause maybe it's all we are going to get.
Remember that the Redmi Note 7 still dont have a official version to this very day.
The current root methods described here on XDA for the RN8Pro feels like…
Mashed potatoes with more or less broken english and few drops of luck, just for good measure...
Sorry, I got sidetracked a little bit;
Stay stronK M8, maybe it's still coming. Maybe.
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Exactly. And adding to that, the amount of misinformation and blatant liters around this handset is just absolutely mind-blowing. At some point you might see someone casually ranting about how it's best not to expect anything positive about this device and then you turn your head around only to see the same person claiming to be a ROM developer that almost have a fully functional ROM for it.... XIAOMI didn't even release the touchscreen driver for the phone!!! Yet some "developers" out there somehow has a "working ROM" and looking for testers.... ???
Helhound0 said:
Exactly. And adding to that, the amount of misinformation and blatant liters around this handset is just absolutely mind-blowing. At some point you might see someone casually ranting about how it's best not to expect anything positive about this device and then you turn your head around only to see the same person claiming to be a ROM developer that almost have a fully functional ROM for it.... XIAOMI didn't even release the touchscreen driver for the phone!!! Yet some "developers" out there somehow has a "working ROM" and looking for testers.... ???
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Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working ?
girishjangir7 said:
Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working
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Hey, just wondering. Is there any information about panel used? Tried 10 apps to check but none can gave me screen panel manufacturer name
ScarletVeil said:
Hey, just wondering. Is there any information about panel used? Tried 10 apps to check but none can gave me screen panel manufacturer name
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Its NVT for me
girishjangir7 said:
Btw sorry to say that but the source code is complete you will understand if you know some git.See i am not just blant this is the proof:
In folder
drivers/input/touchscreen/fts8719
Create path
include/firmware/
Create empty file - focal_g7_01.i
Touch driver working ?
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Well you got me there. But i hope you know where this is coming from. There's a lot riding on this device so we can't afford to have anyone mess with its reputation.
On a side note, I'm willing to try things out, now that i know you're legit. That's if you still needa tester. Let me know. ?
Helhound0 said:
Well you got me there. But i hope you know where this is coming from. There's a lot riding on this device so we can't afford to have anyone mess with its reputation.
On a side note, I'm willing to try things out, now that i know you're legit. That's if you still needa tester. Let me know. ?
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But my only concern is that if Xiaomi doesn't give legit unbrick tool we can't do anything coz when we flash through some third party tool also it needs Xiaomi server permission:crying:

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