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How on earth is this possible?

I have an XPERIA Arc LT15i. Single-core 1-GHz processor, 512 MB of RAM (much less available to the user, though). I've tried different ROMs, and the highest that I'd ever got on the Antutu benchmark was somewhere in the 5000s. Usually, though, it hovers between 4400 and 4800-ish. I tried a CM10-based MIUI ROM a while back, however, and the Antutu scores were completely off the charts.
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I'm wondering how it's possible for a 1-GHz single-core processor to match a much superior (dual-core) processor (the Optimus 2X) in terms of performance. Or are these benchmarks, which the myriads of review sites out there use to make comparisons between phones, actually rubbish? I'd love to have some clarifications/opinions.

On arc s overclocked to 1.6 running CM10 and a Fusion kernel I'm getting 6250 without rebooting before benchmark and with a few processes running in a background.
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I'll try with stock 1.4 and report results.
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6148 on 1.4ghz. Also keep in mind that anyone can install a GB rom with kernel that supports overclocking up to 2.0ghz to get even bigger score. Arc s is still a pretty capable device.
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Oh you were talking about arc not arc s xD But my point is still true because there is only 400mhz of difference between these phones.

NEVER use Antutu or any other benchmark tools to determine the performance. Benchmark score can easily get cheated by overclocking, increasing memory read ahead or using different IO scheduler
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NEVER use Antutu or any other benchmark tools to determine the performance. Benchmark score can easily get cheated by overclocking, increasing memory read ahead or using different IO scheduler
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But its not cheating... I agree that benchmarks are not really that accurate and every score should be taken with a grain of salt but overclocking is not cheating. Cheating would be making a modifications to antutu apk for bigger scores.

Thank you for your opinions. However, I've never overclocked the processor on my phone to this date. The mere thought gives me the jitters. What if it burns out? Going by those scores, maybe the ROM overclocked the processor itself without my knowing. Have any of you tried overclocking, though? And, have you noticed any difference in performance or stability issues? Maybe the battery would drain out quicker, too.

MarcSinger said:
Thank you for your opinions. However, I've never overclocked the processor on my phone to this date. The mere thought gives me the jitters. What if it burns out? Going by those scores, maybe the ROM overclocked the processor itself without my knowing. Have any of you tried overclocking, though? And, have you noticed any difference in performance or stability issues? Maybe the battery would drain out quicker, too.
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If you have read my previous post you would know everything that you asked. On CM10 I'm getting more than 6000 points in antutu without any overclocking (arc s CPU's frequency is 1.4ghz) : D Its not that scores on CM10 are high its just that scores on stock firmware are low. Sony's software is bloated and ****ty in overall.
Overclocking is safe if you are doing it with brain. If you set Arc CPU (1ghz) to 2ghz it will fry for sure but setting it to 1.2 should be perfectly safe. Overclocked phone drains battery faster but its pretty obvious everything is stable and a little smoother.

pypcier said:
If you have read my previous post you would know everything that you asked. On CM10 I'm getting more than 6000 points in antutu without any overclocking (arc s CPU's frequency is 1.4ghz) : D Its not that scores on CM10 are high its just that scores on stock firmware are low. Sony's software is bloated and ****ty in overall.
Overclocking is safe if you are doing it with brain. If you set Arc CPU (1ghz) to 2ghz it will fry for sure but setting it to 1.2 should be perfectly safe. Overclocked phone drains battery faster but its pretty obvious everything is stable and a little smoother.
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No, I would NOT have known everything that I'd asked. My question was whether there were any stability or battery-drain issues with overclocking, but none of those queries were addressed on your previous post.
But thanks for the clarifications on the scores. Yes, stock ICS is absolute rubbish, that's why I've moved on to CM10/Jelly Bean. It doesn't have the "customizations" you can get with stock ICS, but it's smooth, responsive, fluid, and that's what matters to me.
By the way, I do believe 400 MHz SHOULD make quite a bit of a difference. A 600-MHz processor and a 1-GHz processor wouldn't be giving a similar performance. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Overclocking your Arc to 1.4GHz should be a clearly visible upgrade but I'm not sure if this would be healthy for your phone. It's almost 50% more in performance but under heavy load this could cause some high temperatures and degradation of your phone's battery and cpu life. My Arc s is clocked at 1.6 all the time and it doesn't even gets too hot while playing games so 200MHz more seems right and safe to me.
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Values described in this post as "safe" or "best" may not be the same for you so google everything before making any changes to your phone.

Benchmark results and PC connectivity

hi. im kinda new to Lg phones . its infact my first LG phone ever.
first off, i will get something cleared out to all. im disappointed at almost no support from LG! its been a year and still 4.1? no updates what so ever? this was their flagship phone that was primarily focused to compete with Note 2 and even S4 but look where they are now! 4.4 KK!
now to the point of thread, i just got out of misery of soft brick. and just today i got the V5.5 rom of THIS rom.
out of curiosity i downloaded some benchmarks. here are my scores.
after looking at these scores i was like WTF is this??? guys any help, that are these scores NORMAL for LG OGP or is it my device???
i mean my Note 1, i remember, had better scores in Benchmarkpi than this!
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also another problem. i have installed the LG drivers for the mobile in the pc and also lg pc suite is installed. but when i connect this piece of **** to PC, it connects and disconnects continuously. it does not even show up in Computer. even after i have reinstalled the drivers like 6 times, its sitll not connecting. it connects when ever it desires. this phone is real ****. i ****ing hate it now.
pls some one help how to fix this???
pls assist.

4.4 is coming to our device. Be patient. As for the low scores, make sure quadcore management is turned off.
The heavy theming of LG's skin makes it extremely resource heavy which will "slow down" your phone.
If you're that worried about benchmark scores, try Carbon with the OC'd kernel. On Antutu, I get about 30k.
Benchmark scores are completely irrelevant. Even if your OGP scored lower than your Note 2, the OGP is still outperforming it in basically every way. Better processor and GPU.
Sent from my ColorOS LG-E980

Have you change the Thermal Daemon Mitigation to "ON"?
And maybe you can try using other usb cable.

Neroga said:
4.4 is coming to our device. Be patient. As for the low scores, make sure quadcore management is turned off.
The heavy theming of LG's skin makes it extremely resource heavy which will "slow down" your phone.
If you're that worried about benchmark scores, try Carbon with the OC'd kernel. On Antutu, I get about 30k.
Benchmark scores are completely irrelevant. Even if your OGP scored lower than your Note 2, the OGP is still outperforming it in basically every way. Better processor and GPU.
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you are right about the performance and about the relevancy of benchmarks. i dont trust them myself but even then man, these scores are too low for Snapdragon 600 im kinda worried about my hardware. thats why asked help here.
and i just wish LG brings KK soon enough.
i will be honest, i got this phones just cause of i got LG monitor like 4 months back and i was amazed by its display! like really amazed!
it is an IPS panel and its amazing. i got so impressed i got LG OGP just cause of its "LG make".
phone is very good. and to be honest i find more potential in LG Optimus UI than samsung's touchwiz cause i have had almost ZERO lag until now. its been a week i got this phone.
the only concerns i have are batter in stock roms is ****. i got this V5.5 rom which kinda corrected the battery or its just placebo effect but i find it better.
i just wish LG brings KK sooner man.
thanks for reply though

Like I said, give Carbon and the OC'd kernel a try. I've gotten 2052MHz to run stable on here even though I prefer using 1890MHz just in case. Having the GPU bumped up to 531MHz won't impact battery life and with hardware acceleration enabled, there is no possible way for this phone to lag. :3
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Neroga said:
Like I said, give Carbon and the OC'd kernel a try. I've gotten 2052MHz to run stable on here even though I prefer using 1890MHz just in case. Having the GPU bumped up to 531MHz won't impact battery life and with hardware acceleration enabled, there is no possible way for this phone to lag. :3
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What do you mean by "hardware acceleration enabled" ?

mi6 using a lower binned version of 835 than others

Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???

https://youtu.be/wdsK_RQOZDA?t=5m7s
I don't know what you mean exactly.... and the MI6 is using UFS 2.1 for sure.

Ufs2.0 or 2.1, I'm sure .

My Mi6, and it's using UFS 2.1
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Not possible. I've bench mine and it's UFS 2.1 speed. I don't think they'll use emmc 5.1 on their latest flagships. Even when I had the MI5 it was with UFS 2.0 after I bench it to confirm. You don't even have the phone??

I agree
UFS 2.1 on mine too. Not sure what the OP is smokin

My Antutu MI6
My Antutu MI6

Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal

rohit25 said:
Weird check the review by IGyaan.... Shows a score of 135k.... Maybe not all phones are equal
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Probably had older software - or pre-release version of the phone.

Even mine scores 135k ....
Which runs on latest rom 8.2.23 china stable

Mine running on 7.5.16 beta global rom scored 176k antutu score, and that was with a few notifications coming through on messenger at the time interrupting the benchmark.
In real world game play I get some weird "sticking" in Minecraft PE. When you're mining stuff and then go to move there is a split second of lag and it jumps. I'm not sure if this is a GPU optimization issue or whether its the Mi6.. My Google pixel does not do this - its liquid smooth.
Other graphics intensive games like Pixel Gun, Asphalt 8, etc work smooth and seamless.. Zero issues

Interesting that CPU X app indicates the max speed of the SD835 on my MI6 is only 1.9ghz..??? Shouldn't it be 2.45Ghz?

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I got 170k+ with antutu and I did have weird 120k antutu while the phone is overheating. So it's safe to say the test where they got 130k antutu is when the phone is overheating.
But by no mean Mi 6 is slow or use lower/underpowered memory/chip. It's fast all the time to me. Faster than all older chip powering phones I had.

On 7.5.16 global beta I was getting 178k+ antutu scores. after the update to 7.6.1 and a fresh wipe, around 171k now. Agreed its not a slow phone! doing well. Now all they need to do is fix the screen touch-move tolerance so that games are playable

Cpu x only giving info about 4 little cores big cores are clocked at 2.45 and little cores 1.9
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/...processor-specs-speed-benchmark-chipset-cores

rohit25 said:
Ha e checked a bunch of videos of mi6 and in all of them can see that on running benchmarks .. the mi6 reports a lower score than what is expected out of 835 ... There might be a chance of using emmc 5.1 instead of ufs2/2.1 ..
Can anyone with the phone confirm the same...???
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It is UFS, mi China says so

Gaming performance? (pubg, cod mobile. heating, thermal throttling?)

Hi! Just ordered a redmi note 8 pro. My mi 8 dieda couple of days ago and I wanted a quick and cheap replacement.
I play a lot of pubg and cod.
Anyone tried benchmarking the fps (with gltools or gamebench for example), does RN8 pro keep 60 fps even for long periods of time? Mi 8 had som throttling problems, when the phone got warm, it lost performance and fps..
Been som news about RN8 pro heating. Does it throttle also?
Any way to stop the throttling? with FDE-AI or similar apps, anyone tried?

Found some tests on youtube. Doesnt seem to be able to keep 60 fps on lowest settings.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=redmi+note+8+pro+fps+test

I am also thinking on buying either RN8 Pro or realme 5 Pro. I have seen a lot videos on youtube.
And I think its performance is better as compared to Realme 5 Pro but every Youtubers mentioned one thing in particular that heats up a little bit.
I am currently on Redmi Note 3 Helio P60 Variant. Even its performance is very satisfying for me with pubgfx Tool on Smooth + Ultra.
So it is going to be an upgrade for me either way. ??

It wont throttle and heat as much if you set it to Smooth Extreme. If you set it to HDR Ultra then the device will heat up, but it won't throttle.
For COD, High-High 60fps stable, heat is tolerable

I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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panzerpig said:
I got the phone and are satisfied so far. Not quite as fast as mi 8. I noticed that game turbo improves performance and reduces throttling.
You can check these scores. One with game turbo, one without. you notice that without it throttles alot more
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Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?

Generaljan said:
Have you found any difference betwen MIUI 10 and 11?
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No, have only tried miui 11.

Any updates on your impressions?

as a former poco f1 user, i'd say its about on par with it as far as performance goes (on paper there is about 15% more power to the poco f1) the main reason i switched to this phone was the display and the bigger battery for the most part i'd say the display is better then the poco's especially because the notch is basically gone, as for battery i'd its around the same or the redmi note 8 pro is a little bit better, also i only switched to this phone cause i had a chance to do so for free and i don't regret switching honestly.

I play pubg daily (ace rank). Performance is good. Most of the time you get 60 fps, some dips to 40-50 fps at start of landing at hot drops. TDM and mostly domination feels laggier. Might be those game modes...

Question P6 vs P7 Surprising Geekbench Results

My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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PuffDaddy_d said:
My wife has a P7 Pro and I've got a P6 Pro. I decided to run a Geekbench test on them and was shocked to see the P6 Pro scored about 5% higher than the 7 Pro. Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Is there such thing as an underperforming CPU?
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Well there's a ton of variables that could affect those scores but yes, it's VERY possible to underclock a CPU, just as you can overclock it. I'm not saying that happened, but simply answering the question, as I have no idea the differences between them. OS can definitely affect this score just as much as CPU. So, what operating system (ROM) are both using, and kernels, ROOT magisk, ETC.? There's so many things that can cause this to happen that we will need a LOT more information to even begin to figure this out.

What I see here is your Pixel 6 performing better than average, I've seen scores from 2800 to 3200, but not higher, higher than that are rare, my highest score is 970/2843, can you tell which rom(beta, stable...), kernel, mods or modules and so are you using? Did you disable any app too?
Try using 3D Mark Wild Life Extreme or so to test 3D performance, or try antutu so you can have more info, thanks!

Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.

PuffDaddy_d said:
Thanks for the quick replies. I certainly understand that benchmark values can change from device to device or even day to day on the same device. I just never thought SoC's from 2 different generations would yield results showing the older device with higher performance.
Both phones are fully stock, not rooted or modified in any way with the latest Android 13 stable build. I only made this comparison because my wife's P7 Pro was having trouble taking more than 2 or 3 pictures in a row without temporarily locking out the camera shutter until the system resources cleared up. My P6 Pro in the same conditions had no trouble firing off 5 or 6 shots in a row without said issue.
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Your Pixel is a 1% one, her Pixel has an issue probably, factory resetting one day should fix it, I'll avoid restoring a backup of settings and so to make sure it works as it should.
Make sure to clean caches and checking background apps, try also better battery stats to check what's eating up resources, it is probably an easy fix, but finding it will need some work, thanks for sharing

Well, If you spend time to read previous news and you will know it's normally because both chips are made by the same technology from Samsung. And the chip used by your P6P may be luckily packaged from the best performance of specific position of the wafers(Center dies or near center dies ...) ... So it's within the reasonable variation.