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[Q] LG G4 vs Samsung Galaxy S6

idk if this is the right place to ask. My apologies if it is. I'm looking for a new phone to get and well, like the title says, which one is the better bet? I think i should state which aspects of a phone are actually important to me and which are not. I don't really care much for the "premium feel in the hand" and I'd as easily take the g4 as I'd take an S6. I'd rather have the removable battery and the SD card slot but not having them isn't a deal breaker. Performance, well, is the most important part of the phone for not only me, and i don't think I'm wrong to say, everyone. I'm not going to mention the camera because from what I've heard, you can't go wrong with either one. Battery life isn't a big deal for me. I don't mind having to plug in the phone during the day. And the biggest of the bunch is the developer support. Let me just say this now, it is a MASSIVE deal for me. I would never buy a phone without knowing if it would have support from developers. I slap on CM as soon as i get a phone and i know that CM won't be available as the devices are quite new but as soon as they arrive, I'll be one of the firsts to flash them. I've had bad experiences with touchwiz in the past so I think the CM part was worth mentioning as S6 uses an exynos chipset and there has never been much development for exynos variants of samsung's previous phones. This phone is going to be a 2-4 year investment for me so i want to know which one will be the better phone. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask. Your opinions are very appreciated.

Get G4 with blind eye. You wont go wrong. As you say you are going to use it for long term, s6 battery is going to be dead and its hard to replace it. G4, got awesome camera. After a year or two if anything happen to battery (i bet it will not though) you can just get another one.
Performance is at best on G3 and G4 too. I wouldnt have switch to G4 if it didnt have best camera.
Lg is unlocking bootloaders themself, so sooner or later you will get root and all stuff. If you are out of space you can add as much as you can. Not like s6 , go on cloud or get another phone.

Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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bostonbassman78 said:
Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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il buono said:
My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.

@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.

bikrame said:
I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.
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Here's some sample screenshots of my battery life for both devices.
Galaxy S6
LG G4
Not the most detailed, but it gives you an idea of how long it lasts between charges and SOT. I have yet to own a Lollipop device with battery life that impresses me (including the Nexus 6). There are people out there with both devices that have reported better battery life and crazy SOT, but these are my usual results.
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@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.
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Basically my same experience with the performance. My S6 is running encrypted and it's still smoother than the G4. I wouldn't call the G4 laggy, but there's just something about the S6 that provides a better software experience.

Both are great devices depending on what you value more. I think s6 has higher chances to be future proof because it already got fingerprint reader and great processor, while g4 processor is already outdated from my point of view. Also s6 feels better built, overall more complete experience. I have both, my g4 sits on my desk.
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S6
Pros: speed, aesthetics, better software in general
Cons: Battery can be bad if not tuned right, WiFi isn't incredibly strong, storage can be an issue for some, camera images over-saturated and over-sharpened IMO
G4
Pros: Buttons on back (seriously, I kind of hate buttons on the side now. Subjective; YMMV), Better camera control, more ameliorating images, screen size, sd slot
Cons: Little bit thick & heavy, battery life could be better, squared edges are a bit unwieldy, software a bit clunky (but a huge improvement over the G3), somewhat sluggish compared to what a 2015 flagship should be

Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:

One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4? And will CM roms available for the S6 considering the Exynos processor?

NotAbdShahid said:
Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:
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Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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NotAbdShahid said:
One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4?
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That seems like a big "if", of course.
But, IF, and if the S6 also had SD, I would definitely consider it, personally.
Though the combination of a smallish battery that is also not replaceable kinda makes me nervous, even ignoring storage aspects. Batteries degrade with time, and I want to keep my new phone at least 2 years. So if battery life started out iffy, what will it be like in a year and a half?
The S6 Active would make me feel better, you're at least using a much larger battery.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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Dont have heating problems at all...
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Also it depends on the variant one is going to use. Out of the box Verizon's S6 has European LTE bands active and sim unlocked while the Verizon G4 only really has LTE bands for the Americas.
I probably would have gone with a European G4 to use on ATT as it has American and European bands but since I am stuck on Verizon the S6 made more sense. The S6 is fast and very smooth. Someone suggested it might be faster because it does not have to read and write to an external card.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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???
What heating problems?

@dontpannic In the sense that is getting hot with normal usage! At least mine does!
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@ione2380 I would be inclined to evaluate what apps you have installed/running - I got 4 hours of SOT yesterday with quite heavy use and the phone was still pretty cool. Warm on some more intensive things but not hot. My S4 was worse!

@dontpannic 10 minutes of pinterest or buzzfeed and it gets hot or downloding 2 bigger apps from playstore. I have just a couple of apps installed. Try playing plants vs. Zombies 2. My phone gets extremely hot after 5 min. of playing that game!
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Here is what I'd say based on my limited experience with G4 so far, if you want best camera currently in market and a very strong device with amazing app support. There is nothing better than G4 right now. Yes things will change in a year but by that time G5 may be out. So you never know. I've used iPhone from 4 to 5S. Moved to Lumia 1520 basically for camera. And now on G4 - primarily because of camera. Its solid device and don't forget to get 128GB Lexar microSD. It rocks this phone with performance.

Sell my Galaxy S6 for Nexus 5X?

I have to say that S6 is a great phone, but: I hate Touchwiz and physical home button. As there's no way to get rid of the Touchwiz, I thought of buying a Nexus 5X.
What do you suggest?

No. You would lose about practically everything, except software, camera and fingerprint sensor. Maybe, S6->N6P would be a better choice.
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I bought a 5x around a month ago, switching from an s6. Although the hardware is a downgrade, I have to say the overall experience is way better. I love the freedom I get with a Nexus, and I'll never be able to get that with anything else on Verizon.
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Thanks, N6P is too big for me...

I've switched from s6 edge to n5x, the best choice I've ever made. If you don't care about premium material, don't even think about it.

I switched from my S6 flat to N5X.
I'm loving it... And the battery is awesome!
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I also just sold my s6 yesterday and ordered the 5x. S6 is a beautiful phone no doubt, but the experience on a nexus is worth it
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ale29-09 said:
No. You would lose about practically everything, except software, camera and fingerprint sensor. Maybe, S6->N6P would be a better choice.
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Maybe you should think about the experience instead of specs ^^ And 6P is a phablet more expansive so that's not the same thing

They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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dude hell yes, trust me. if you're like me and values the overall experience over just bland specs, you're going to be very happy with the switch.
Galaxy S6 had really ****ty software, memory management bugs, and crappy battery. Yes it looks nice with its all glass body but to me that was actually a minus because i was so scared to break it. Nexus 5x is better in every sense except maybe the custom samsung chip and the camera. And the pure software experience oh man this is were nexus 5x and even a nexus 5 has an edge over any samsung phone. Pure stock android is infinitely better than touchwiz in EVERY way. So much cleaner and faster. Bro buy an nexus 5x and you will never look back.

JeeperDon said:
They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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Launchers do not eliminate touchwiz unfortunately, only the launcher aspect of it. I switched s6-->N5X and don't regret it the slightest. Only regret is that I didn't give the moto x pure a shot as I liked my 2013 and 2014 moto x quite a bit

I also made the switch from the S6E to the 5X and couldn't be happier. The 5X is just a more enjoyable experience, it doesn't heat up like the S6E did, the animations are smoother, endless runners like Sonic Boom 2 don't drop frames like it did with the S6E and the list goes on. Stock Android is where it's at.

yellowsn0w said:
dude hell yes, trust me. if you're like me and values the overall experience over just bland specs, you're going to be very happy with the switch.
Galaxy S6 had really ****ty software, memory management bugs, and crappy battery. Yes it looks nice with its all glass body but to me that was actually a minus because i was so scared to break it. Nexus 5x is better in every sense except maybe the custom samsung chip and the camera. And the pure software experience oh man this is were nexus 5x and even a nexus 5 has an edge over any samsung phone. Pure stock android is infinitely better than touchwiz in EVERY way. So much cleaner and faster. Bro buy an nexus 5x and you will never look back.
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This guy said everything.
I'm loving my 5X... I use Android on my job and in my old S6 the battery sucks. I charged it 3 times per day..every single day. With the nexus I can finish a day of work...
And after all the nexus experience Is better... When u are tired about the UI u can flash a different ROM...
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You won't be disappointed by switching from the Galaxy S6 to the Nexus 5X. Mostly for the exact reasons you mentioned, no TouchWiz and no outdated physical navigation buttons. The battery life of the Nexus 5X is better but it isn't very good either. Although no phone has what I would call "good" battery life anyways.
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JeeperDon said:
They are many alternative launchers to eliminate your anti-touchwiz concerns. Even Google Now launcher is avail, which is what I did on my S4.
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Replacing the TouchWiz launcher would be an improvement but it doesn't totally remove TouchWiz. TouchWiz goes way deeper than the launcher or even just the UI. Plus, installing a different launcher doesn't remove the TouchWiz launcher which I think still ends up running in the background so you may end up having the TouchWiz launcher still using some resources as well as the possibility that the new launcher doesn't preform very well(like Go Launcher and Nova Launcher).

Thanks guys, the pros are just the motives I would switch over to N5X...
But now I'm even divided between 5X and Moto X Force...

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I have to say that S6 is a great phone, but: I hate Touchwiz and physical home button. As there's no way to get rid of the Touchwiz, I thought of buying a Nexus 5X.
What do you suggest?
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Come on! NO
install custom launcher
i think it s not fair to compare Galaxy S6 with N5X
I m not SammyFan. But there s lots of gr8 software and hardware features on S6
from nice design to gr8 camera & ...
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Geeks Empire said:
Come on! NO
install custom launcher
i think it s not fair to compare Galaxy S6 with N5X
I m not SammyFan. But there s lots of gr8 software and hardware features on S6
from nice design to gr8 camera & ...
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You're not a Samsung fan? Lol. Might want to edit that post then. Haha.

Well, Touchwiz is not just launcher. It's a heavy Android modification that makes many mods incompatible. And the lack of Exynos source code not allows custom AOSP roms...

Gonna go over from a S6 to 5x in a couple of days when my phone arrives. S6 only beats the 5x in materials and camera, a 2gb ram will still be better than the 3gb in S6 with their ****ty ram management implementation that has been present since launch and no updates or even an acknowledgement forthcoming for it. Terrible for a flagship honestly.
I'm never gonna give samsung a chance again. S6 was my 1st samsung phone actually, their high prices for cheap materials and slow updates was what kept me back then, now they lost a customer for good. But their camera and the availability of various accessories is great although its not a priority for me.

5X Vs S6

I'm terribly indecisive to buy Nexus 5X or Samsung Galaxy S6: can you help me?
The main differences seem to be: screen resolution/size e RAM size.
I'm worry about RAM because I already have one Samsung S4 Mini and it's always full.. what about your opinion?

mhaxx said:
I'm terribly indecisive to buy Nexus 5X or Samsung Galaxy S6: can you help me?
The main differences seem to be: screen resolution/size e RAM size.
I'm worry about RAM because I already have one Samsung S4 Mini and it's always full.. what about your opinion?
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I've never had full ram on the nx5 newer operating system and likely faster updates and longer support life than the s6 but hey i may be a bit of a nexus fan
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Difficult choice?
I run both, and have to say that the S6 is better built, seems to have a bit more CPU power, and the camera is the best I have seen. Admittedly I am on the 6.0.1 Beta, have themed the hell out of it and have disabled everything I don't think I need (Package Disabler Pro is your friend).
Honestly though, if you bought the 5X and did not own an S6 I think that you would still be happy, I feel more confident that the 5X will remain up to date with the latest software well before the S6.
In the UK the price is not that different if you shop around, I am not sure what the difference is where you are.
Either phone is very good, I am preparing to be flamed for slightly preferring the S6 (ducks for cover......)
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mhaxx said:
I'm terribly indecisive to buy Nexus 5X or Samsung Galaxy S6: can you help me?
The main differences seem to be: screen resolution/size e RAM size.
I'm worry about RAM because I already have one Samsung S4 Mini and it's always full.. what about your opinion?
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mhaxx said:
I'm terribly indecisive to buy Nexus 5X or Samsung Galaxy S6: can you help me?
The main differences seem to be: screen resolution/size e RAM size.
I'm worry about RAM because I already have one Samsung S4 Mini and it's always full.. what about your opinion?
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it all comes down to your usage, habbits and expectations.
i myself came from an international S4, which on first glance is quite similar to the 5X (1080p screen, 2GB ram, etc). long story short: the S4 is garbage in comparison.
a friend of mine got the S6, we played around a little with each others phone and compared our experiences, which came down to the S6 being bloated and the additional ram getting lost to the higher resolution screen and bloatware (even with a lot of that already disabled). touchwiz on the 6th generation of this phone still seems... less fluent than stock android and the fingerprint sensor on the 5x is just less awkward.
keep in mind that highly filled ram on android isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just tries to chache the last/often used apps, so they start up quicker. also, since there is no dedicated video ram in these phones, meaning the higher the resolution, the less ram you have at your disposal.
this all is regarding the (almost) out of the box experience with these phones (rooted, adblock, mostly deactivated bloat).

mhaxx said:
I'm terribly indecisive to buy Nexus 5X or Samsung Galaxy S6: can you help me?
The main differences seem to be: screen resolution/size e RAM size.
I'm worry about RAM because I already have one Samsung S4 Mini and it's always full.. what about your opinion?
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Galaxy S6: QHD screen powered by 2,600mAh battery, CrapWiz, hardware navigation buttons and Samsung build quality
Nexus 5X: 1080p screen powered by 2,700mAh battery, stock Android, on screen navigation and NOT Samsung build quality
For those reasons alone I would never choose the Galaxy S6(or any other Samsung phone) over a Nexus 5X(or any other non-Samsung phone).

I just switched from an S6 to a 5x. Very glad I did, but as the posts above state, the s6 is a more premium device from a hardware standpoint. Personally, I value stock Android, fast updates and clean user experience over the metal and glass. From my week of using the 5x, I don't miss the s6 at all. The 5x feels solid, much more than the original 5. While the S6 camera is the best I've used, the 5X takes great pictures and I actually prefer the lower light performance of the 5x as there is less noise in the photos. The fingerprint scanner on the 5x is much better too.
Good luck with your decision.

Galaxy S6 takes better picture, has a better screen, has more storage, has better sound quality, has faster CPU. has better build quality
Galaxy s6 is about the same price has Nexus 5x on Ebay or Amazon.
Galaxy s6 battery should last longer then Nexus 5x. The bottom line is Galaxy s6 is much better. it run's fast and smooth.
BUT If you like fast updates and 3 years update cycle then get Nexus 5x.
if you like rooting and installing different ROM's and Kenels then you should get Nexus 5x.
If you like don't like skin touchwiz UI, sense 7 or anyother UI skin and you like plain Android 6 to the bones then get Nexus 5X.
if your a developer then get Nexus 5x.
Nexus 5X has a better finger print reader.
Galaxy S6 finger print scanner is 90-95%. you don't swip your finger like the above guy said. he's wrong, or he might be talking about the old galaxy s5.

umbrokhan said:
Galaxy S6 takes better picture, has a better screen, has more storage, has better sound quality, has faster CPU. has better build quality
Galaxy s6 is about the same price has Nexus 5x on Ebay or Amazon.
Galaxy s6 battery should last longer then Nexus 5x. The bottom line is Galaxy s6 is much better. it run's fast and smooth.
BUT If you like fast updates and 3 years update cycle then get Nexus 5x.
if you like rooting and installing different ROM's and Kenels then you should get Nexus 5x.
If you like don't like skin touchwiz UI, sense 7 or anyother UI skin and you like plain Android 6 to the bones then get Nexus 5X.
if your a developer then get Nexus 5x.
Nexus 5X has a better finger print reader.
Galaxy S6 finger print scanner is 90-95%. you don't swip your finger like the above guy said. he's wrong, or he might be talking about the old galaxy s5.
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Online ources show the 5x getting longer battery life than the S6 and that seems to be the consensus from users as well.
The 5x has a bigger battery (2700 mAh vs 2550) and is running the more efficient Android 6 software. It also has a less powerful CPU and GPU. I'm not sure why you would assume the S6 has longer battery life under these conditions.

Two of my kids have S6. I am running Chroma ROM on 5X with Franco kernel (r4) and I could not be happier. I would never want a Samsung phone. I am on Android so I can have the features I want and nothing else. Nexus is the way to get that.

i have an s6 edge and a 5x, as far as cameras go i actually think the quality of the pictures is better with the 5x. only issue i have is the delay in saving the photos in HDR mode...battery on the 5x is so much better than the s6 edge (sometimes i think i have a dud though it is so horrible). for me, i dont care so much for the if the phone "feels" premium or not. 5x is light, excellent size for one handed operation, and i love the finger print scanner that just turns on the phone by touching it!!

Allthough I do like what Samsung has done regarding design and hardware quality, I remain sceptical about the software situation -
As it definitely lacks developer friendliness, I wouldn't go for the S6. My 5X on the other hand is a bit creeky buildwise and does have some performance issues (at least 100% stock), now with Cataclysm and ElementalX or franco kernel, is a capable, yet unimpressive device (especially compared to less powerful devices of the Snapdragon 801 generation and for the price - I paid around 360€ / $390 for it) - but I start to like it, especially for the fingerprint reader and the camera.

S6 wins in performance, but the N5X wins in camera, fingerprint, and UI.
That being said, N5X performance can be pretty bad for some, so that may need to be considered, esp if you're not going to mod it.
N6P is better than both N5X and S6, while still being cheaper than S6, and is the best option if you don't mind the increased size.

mhrussell1 said:
Two of my kids have S6. I am running Chroma ROM on 5X with Franco kernel (r4) and I could not be happier. I would never want a Samsung phone. I am on Android so I can have the features I want and nothing else. Nexus is the way to get that.
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Have you left encryption on? How is the overall perfomance? Any lags?

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Have you left encryption on? How is the overall perfomance? Any lags?
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I left encryption on by accident, I intended to format the partition but only wiped it. However, I have not seen any lag problems at all.

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I left encryption on by accident, I intended to format the partition but only wiped it. However, I have not seen any lag problems at all.
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Seriously? Please trade me. I have terrible lag at times (had it on stock, then less on purenexus rooted, then less on unencrypted)

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Seriously? Please trade me. I have terrible lag at times (had it on stock, then less on purenexus rooted, then less on unencrypted)
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Maybe I do not know how to recognize lag. Can you give me an example?
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Seriously? Please trade me. I have terrible lag at times (had it on stock, then less on purenexus rooted, then less on unencrypted)
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Have you tried the Franco kernel. I suspect that is a big help reading the tweaks he made.

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Maybe I do not know how to recognize lag. Can you give me an example?
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Have you tried the Franco kernel. I suspect that is a big help reading the tweaks he made.
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Lag like i perform an action and the phone is frozen for a few seconds before performing it.
I've been using the EX kernel + the tweaks from the interactive governor thread. It's MUCH better but i still get lag occasionally. I thought the franco kernel wasn't fully stable yet? What are its benefits over EXK? Would I need to flash the stock kernel first before flashing franco?

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Lag like i perform an action and the phone is frozen for a few seconds before performing it.
I've been using the EX kernel + the tweaks from the interactive governor thread. It's MUCH better but i still get lag occasionally. I thought the franco kernel wasn't fully stable yet? What are its benefits over EXK? Would I need to flash the stock kernel first before flashing franco?
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Yeah, that is what I thought lag was. I cannot say I have ever noticed it. Maybe it depends on the app. As to flashing Franco over EX, I would have to review the thread. I saw one thread where someone was complaining about problems and it seemed like they were just flashing kernels over each other. I think you just have to UnSU and the flash SuperSU 2.67 after the kernel. That is what I would do. Your mileage may vary.

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Yeah, that is what I thought lag was. I cannot say I have ever noticed it. Maybe it depends on the app. As to flashing Franco over EX, I would have to review the thread. I saw one thread where someone was complaining about problems and it seemed like they were just flashing kernels over each other. I think you just have to UnSU and the flash SuperSU 2.67 after the kernel. That is what I would do. Your mileage may vary.
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Thanks for the info. Im pretty sure i'd have to flash stock kernel first to avoid issues (not sure which zip contains that though). Why do I need to flash SuperSu again tho? I'm already on 2.66 if im not mistaken, systemless.

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Thanks for the info. Im pretty sure i'd have to flash stock kernel first to avoid issues (not sure which zip contains that though). Why do I need to flash SuperSu again tho? I'm already on 2.66 if im not mistaken, systemless.
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Maybe not, I thought the su files were in the kernel partition but probably wrong. That is just the order I flash when I update. ROM, vendor, kernel, unSU, SU.
Mark

Anybody planning to switch from S7 Edge and why?

I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger screen
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
- Better screen colors in basic mode, brightness
Cons:
- TouchWiz, UI not as fluid as Nexus
- All glass desgin and the edges are nice but not practical at all
- Root voids the warranty
- Exynos can be rooted but I doubt we will see custom ROMs
HTC 10
Pros:
- Better build, metal
- Better fingerprint scanner in terms of NOT having to press the button as on S7 edge
- Closer to Nexus in terms of UI and fluidity
- Better development and custom ROMs, to my knowledge root does not void warranty
- Better audio
Cons:
Nothing major so far I see, the items listed in pros in the S7 edge part are of a better quality but the HTC 10 is acceptable there as well.
I know both are great mobiles. Interested in your opinions as I have never owned an HTC before so do you think it is worth it? I can still return sell my S7 edge that I got at a good price which is equivalent to the price of HTC 10.
Thanks

Heck no.....

ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice

My wife is on her 3rd S7 since launch. I'm sure its just a bad batch of phones she's gotten. Specifically, her signal is so bad, that even the verizon tech when logged into her phone was mystified that she could do anything. Don't get me wrong, my wife likes the phone, physically. But that is about it. Its been nothing but a pain in the Arse. She almost switched to an Iphone. Its that bad.
Again, this is just one situation. YMMV,
Me, I'm dropping the LG V10 to get this phone. and the V10 is a beast, but I've come to realize, that HTC is where its at.
thanks for reading. Good luck with your decision.

Sammy Exynos versions are already getting developer support, with a few roms out.
It's the US versions that aren't getting any love.
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samitro said:
I'm thinking about it and that's why I'm asking. Hare are the pros and cons as I see them
S7 Edge
Pros:
- Bigger battery and hence longer SOT
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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:

hTC is where its at!!!![emoji16][emoji16][emoji16][emoji16] OIS front and back and SOUND. That's all I need. Hehe

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Don't think so
HTC10 seems to have far better batterylife and SOT than other flagships:
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clearly that says S7 and not S7 edge...
I am having a hard time deciding, I do like the S7 Edge a lot, I dont have to do stupid crap to limit my battery, and with my variant, I can tweak the sound to be louder or dual speaker (obviously not as good as HTC speaker)
It also IP68 which is pretty cool if you go to the beach and want to take picture near the water.
its gonna be a hard challenge for sure for me, I order the HTC 10 and I currently have the S7Edge for about 2 months running renovate rom, its really smooth, anyone who says Touchwiz is clunky and slow obviously hasnt touch the s6 or S7, even if they are clunky and slow, nothing custom roms wont fix, that being said, I do love HTC blinkfeeds. That exynos processor is the best to date and I'm not talking about benchmark score, I'm talking about battery life, day to day performance and thermal control. It's gonna be tough deciding, however if you know your priority of what you want, it shouldnt be a problem, unfortunately for me, I'm a phone whore.
dont let anyone here influence you by saying HTC 10, theres a reason why the S7 edge getting so much praise from everyone. Use both phones and see, HTC and Sony forum/thread are notorious for having employees coming in and prop up their phone (like that guy who post a video that is completely irrelevant to your questions and he clearly does not know anything about the S7 and S7 edge, there is custom roms for the exynos S7/S7edge), I mean let's be honest, they arent exactly doing well and who can blame them, if they dont do it, sales gonna go down, and they be out of business.
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joshuadjohnson22 said:
ewww I'm over Samsung. Cartoonish colors, gimmicks, heavy bloat, slow updates (because they have 457489579347 devices and it has to go through carriers), no development in the states because that bootloader is locked down tight and worst of all in my personal opinion.... Amoled. I do not like amoled screens for some weird reason. Also one reason is every single samsung device in the store has deep burn ins... noooooo thanks
If you want a phone with a ton of features and you like keeping it stock samsung is a great choice. Just cuz I don't like them doesn't mean their phones are bad. In fact they are pretty darn good. But I would hate to own one, especially at the price they are asking...
HTC is a different beast all together. Simple, beautiful, powerful. It's your choice
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you know you talking about a very extreme case...putting the phone on display at max brightness, for 12-24 hours a day is not a typical scenario of an average user and even that it takes a while for it to burn in.

Thanks all for the comments. I love the s7 edge and I'm not having any main issues with it so logically should stay with the edge as no phone is perfect. I guess I'll wait before I can hold the 10 in my hand to decide.
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I just didn't get if you want nexus, buy nexus xD
Sadly I really like the edge version of Samsung and the glass... For HTC I liked the sense... Witch can't say now. So still not sure with what will upgrade. Marshmallow for M8 just ducked it up really bad... So the updates won't be problem . And what's the point to have 1208588 custom roms cuz when basically are all the same. (Except 1,2)
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I get lag on my s7 edge from time to time which is really annoying. But I don't want to downgrade in screen size either so I might go to Nexus 6p. I really wanted this phone but I wish it came in 5.5.
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I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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20degrees said:
I'm switching.
1 - Root.
2 - I don't like the edge screen much.
3 - Battery doesn't seem to do well for music in airplane mode with screen off.
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Have to agree, s7 edge screen is dismal tbh.phone often freezes and key pad is awful especially anything on the edge.
Ordered the 10 today..

I have switched from the edge to the 10. Imo the 10 feels much better in hand. With the edge I often had trouble with the sides registering my hand. Also I don't see the screen as a downgrade, it's beautiful.
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I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.

Triavius said:
I'm most likely going to change from S7 (non edge, TMo variant) to the 10 when it's out and jumpable. I do for the most part really like the S7, but I often getting presses on the edge screen from my palm while using it one handed, which I did not have nearly as much (if at all) on my V10 before it. Hopefully the HTC 10 will work better for me.
I also want the ability to root. I probably won't be flashing too many ROMs, I've kind of grown out of that, but I like to at least have the option.
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Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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mouth-watering

Really like the size of the standard S7...
HTC should've had a better form factor, the S7 fits more confortably in the hand its not too tall nor is it too wide.
The 10 size is making be hesistant, but theres nothing really smaller worth having other than the S7 and the iPhone 6S (Which I've looked into also).
Like easy one handed use.

I haven't made my mind up yet but I really wish the 10 would have had a 5.5 in display. In terms of display quality I like them both the same. I just wish the HTC got brighter in direct sunlight than it does. I'm also worried that I won't be able to achieve the kind of battery life I'm getting on the S7 Edge which is why I will wait and see what others get when the phone becomes more widely available. Right now, I can get close to 8 hours SOT or 2 days of light/medium usage with the S7E.
I guess I'm just going to wait another couple weeks to see what happens after more people get the 10.

vegetaleb said:
Oh when you will see the marvelous roms that will come out on the 10 you will become flashoholic :cyclops:
Leedroid, Viper rom, Insertcoin, Maximus HD...
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Hah, we'll see. Knowing myself I'll continue to say no to constantly trying out new ROMs at the same time as I'm downloading a new one.

OP3 vs Nexus 6p

Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.

Since this is oneplus 3 section, I think everyone will say you should get op3. I'd get it myself. Looks a lot better device.

ra9b said:
Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.
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I'm selling my Nexus 6P to buy a OnePlus 3. For me it's all about the dual SIM. Here's what I'll miss about the Nexus 6P (Great phone): QHD display. Stereo speakers at each end of the phone. Also the fingerprint sensor is great: works every time (unlike many I have tried). I hope the OP3 fingerprint sensor will be as good.

nealed said:
I'm selling my Nexus 6P to buy a OnePlus 3. For me it's all about the dual SIM. Here's what I'll miss about the Nexus 6P (Great phone): QHD display. Stereo speakers at each end of the phone. Also the fingerprint sensor is great: works every time (unlike many I have tried). I hope the OP3 fingerprint sensor will be as good.
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Nice, hope you like the OP3! The dual SIM doesn't matter to me, since I only travel internationally once every 2 years or so. Yeah, I feel you on the screen. I'm going to miss the camera and screen of my S6 for sure. From the videos and reviews I've seen/read, it seems like the fingerprint scanner is very good. Seems to function better than that of the S6.

extrem0 said:
Since this is oneplus 3 section, I think everyone will say you should get op3. I'd get it myself. Looks a lot better device.
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Yeah, but I hope that there are other people out there that are stuck between the two. Especially since the nexus has a price drop atm.

ra9b said:
Yeah, but I hope that there are other people out there that are stuck between the two. Especially since the nexus has a price drop atm.
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The 6P 64 GB goes for 549 euro`s in the EU till the 19th, ater that 699 again. So there`s quite a price difference ...

gee2012 said:
The 6P 64 GB goes for 549 euro`s in the EU till the 19th, ater that 699 again. So there`s quite a price difference ...
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Sorry, I should've clarified. The nexus is on sale in America right now. The 64 GB is going for 480 (however 32 is more than enough for me.)

I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.

J_Dutch said:
I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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You should get 350-400 euro`s on Marktplaats for your 6P depending on the storage size.

I am confused too. I own a 64gb Nexus 6p. Disappointed with sd810. Heats too much while gaming. But the quicker official android updates and dual front firing speakers are awesome. I''' loose better camera too. Though I'll get sd820 and 6gb ram and I will make profit if I sell my 6p and buy op3. Really confused :-/

The problem is mainly the size and price. You get a bit smaller device for less money. Actually i dont like 810 serie, so i would probably stick to OP3 since they open to modding after errors with OP2. Probably 6P is better on CAM+Speakers and MAYBE screen.

I also have a Nexus 6P.
- It's REALLY big.
- I don't like the back fingerprint sensor
I'm considering to switch to the OP3 too..... but Nexus updates are every month and i would like to have android pay work with a rooted phone.....

J_Dutch said:
I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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I've heard good things about the Nexus 6P's battery life generally though. Is it not that good?

vshainky08 said:
I am confused too. I own a 64gb Nexus 6p. Disappointed with sd810. Heats too much while gaming. But the quicker official android updates and dual front firing speakers are awesome. I''' loose better camera too. Though I'll get sd820 and 6gb ram and I will make profit if I sell my 6p and buy op3. Really confused :-/
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In the same boat bro. Tell me if you make any decision. I can profit by selling 6P and buying Op3 currently.
What I'll miss if I switched is stereo speakers and quick latest updates !

I was happy with my 6p for a bit, then the crappy aluminum(bent near the charging port) and screen brightness got to me. Should not have to root to see the thing outdoors.
+battery life sucked on mine (usually had trouble getting 3 hours SoT, i get 6 from my mate 8 in the same usage and 10 when using it at home)

ra9b said:
Hey guys!
So I currently have a Galaxy S6 from Verizon, and I am deeply disappointed with it. Since my bootloader is locked, I can't flash any ROMs to improve my terrible battery life. (1.5 hrs SOT, power saving location, power saving mode, auto brightness, etc. Phone still needs to be charger 2 times a day). I was thinking of either getting the OP3 or the Nexus 6P? Is anyone in the same boat as me? I'd love to bounce some ideas around and see what other's recommend.
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Are you staying with Verizon?
The Op3 only works with AT&T or T-Mobile in the U.S.
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Does anyone here have a OP3? If so, can you really tell the difference between 1080p and 2k?
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Im seriously considering switching from the 6p to the OP3
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I currently have a nexus 6, but I'm torn on upgrading to possibly a 6p, one plus 3, or just waiting for the next nexus. I'm currently on att, but have been contemplating on switching to project fi.

J_Dutch said:
I'm also considering to sell my 6p to buy the OP3. I have been kind of disappointed in the 6p because of the screen and battery life. My screen goes from a pink bottom to a yellowish top. I'd rather have a good 1080p screen then a bad QHD screen. And like somebody mentioned in the EU I can sell the 6p without paying much extra to get a brand new op3.
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If you want to sell it because of screen issues, then I will advice you to wait for reviews of the screen on the Oneplus 3 to see if it has no isues.

Beside the battery i would say that the 3 wins nearly ever, aspect.
The problems i have with the nexus is that they are released only a short period before qualcom releases jts new CPU and then i always want to wait to get a devoce with the new cpu.