Is the jelly effect fixed? is MM update on verizon yet?

Is the jelly effect fixed? is MM update on verizon yet? - Verizon LG G4

Hi, pretty much like the title asks. Just ordered a G4 because I love the manual camera options. But can't afford the G5. But curious if they ever hammered out the problems with the video recording on the G4 where the OIS creates a jelly effect? Also curious if the G4 has an update to Marshmallow for the verizon carrier yet? Can't wait for my G4 to get here but I think it's taking the scenic route on it's way to me.

Sorry after getting a chance to check the forums here I found that the Marshmallow update appears to have been released. But still curious on the jelly effect since I can't find anything past I think it was june of 2015? back when people noticed the problem. I found one forum where a person said the got a reply from LG saying they were aware of it and were working on a fix but still can't find anything saying whether or not it ever was.

51 views and no reply? No one has the G4 anymore that they can take out of their pocket and test? Thought I was in the right section to ask. Guess I'll just have to wait until mine gets here tomorrow and update it to marshmallow to find out. Thanks anyway though.

phonepie said:
51 views and no reply? No one has the G4 anymore that they can take out of their pocket and test? Thought I was in the right section to ask. Guess I'll just have to wait until mine gets here tomorrow and update it to marshmallow to find out. Thanks anyway though.
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i think u have to wait to someone that actually, have update to MM, the most of the users, we decide to wait, because actually there´s no way to root MM, so we decide to stay with Lollipop and root.

pakom8 said:
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i think u have to wait to someone that actually, have update to MM, the most of the users, we decide to wait, because actually there´s no way to root MM, so we decide to stay with Lollipop and root.
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Makes sense. I was thinking it was more known after reading through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g4/general/6-0-update-t3316281 But yeah I didn't take into account that the ones that had acutally viewed this thread were only root users. So I'll keep an eye on this thread and see if anyone pops in before I get my G4. I'm still a little torn at whether to upgrade to marshmallow or not. I hear it fixes touch screen issues and adds wifi calling and makes things smoother. But I've also heard it kills the battery and that either verizon or LG decided to be greedy and not allow the SD card to be used as internal storage like other marshmallow handsets manufactures or carriers. Can't remember what that feature is called though off the top of my head. And since I don't understand where to start on the whole kdz thing at rooting the phone before it upgrades to marshmallow I'll have to just leave that alone and use stock lollipop or stock marshmallow. As for the battery issue I'll have to check around to see if their is a slim extra mah battery that still allows me to use my leather back. But thanks again.

*UPDATE* Checking back in. Got my G4 earlier this morning. Battery was dead when I opened it so charged it to 100 then turned it on. Straight away it wanted me to apply a 400mb update. Then once it restarted it straight away downloaded and installed the MM update. So I didn't get to play with it much on lollipop. I did note that within the first 10 minutes before the first update started the battery had dropped 3% now with MM on there it is too soon to tell if it will have battery problems since it's still on it's first charge. But after the 400mb update then the 1gb update then clearing cache and hard factory resetting it and then installing apps etc that I had on my old phone and disabling other useless apps and taking pictures and videos to test the OIS. The battery is currently at 30% with a total on screen time of 1h 30m =39% On the bright side when I tested recording at HD and UHD I did not notice any jelly effect. Aside from the battery seeming to drain quickly I'm very happy with this phone and it's low light camera capabilities. And with that said the only thing I think I'll miss on my S5 is the extra battery life. I know I'm not a high rank member here but if anyone still on root or still on lollipop has any questions about the OTA MM update let me know and I'll see if I can answer.

What is the jelly effect? Search finds Jelly Bean.

divineBliss said:
What is the jelly effect? Search finds Jelly Bean.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6rAE8FNkg
Watch the G4 on the left when he starts walking. Watch the trees and how they wobble. The problem was the G4 has the optical image stabilization OIS that aggressively tried to make video smooth when moving. I'm still not sure if it's fixed. I'll be testing it more tomorrow when it's daylight to where I can walk outside and see what happens.

phonepie said:
*UPDATE* Checking back in. Got my G4 earlier this morning. Battery was dead when I opened it so charged it to 100 then turned it on. Straight away it wanted me to apply a 400mb update. Then once it restarted it straight away downloaded and installed the MM update. So I didn't get to play with it much on lollipop. I did note that within the first 10 minutes before the first update started the battery had dropped 3% now with MM on there it is too soon to tell if it will have battery problems since it's still on it's first charge. But after the 400mb update then the 1gb update then clearing cache and hard factory resetting it and then installing apps etc that I had on my old phone and disabling other useless apps and taking pictures and videos to test the OIS. The battery is currently at 30% with a total on screen time of 1h 30m =39% On the bright side when I tested recording at HD and UHD I did not notice any jelly effect. Aside from the battery seeming to drain quickly I'm very happy with this phone and it's low light camera capabilities. And with that said the only thing I think I'll miss on my S5 is the extra battery life. I know I'm not a high rank member here but if anyone still on root or still on lollipop has any questions about the OTA MM update let me know and I'll see if I can answer.
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tl;dr battery seems good at close to 3.5 hours screen on time. and OIS seems to have been improved.
OK, Back again. Did testing like I said I would. The OIS optical image stabilization didn't seem to have as much of a problem as I've seen in other videos. I did three tests at all sizes. the hd/fhd/uhd and none seemed to have any problem with a jelly effect. Although the video seemed to be grainy when uploaded to youtube to view in a different place than the phone. Even while viewing in the 4k resolution (side note my monitor doesn't support 4k but I put it on it anyway) as for the battery running MM and running everything the same way I did my S5 I pulled in a respectable 3h 28m 40% screen on time. measuring from 8am off charger to current time 6:56 when the battery hit 15% and indicated it needed charged. I removed smart notifications widget in the middle of the day and kept screen brightness at 20%. wifi varried as I was in and out of the house today. GPS was on all day. So tomorrow I'm hoping I'll gain even more life by having the smart notifications as well as the GPS off. Not sure if any of this info matters to anyone but I'm keeping my word and letting everyone know the results I said I was testing for.

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LG G3 Slight Lag

Hi Guys,
I am really new to this forum and I deeply apologise if this thread or subject matter has been opened numerous times.
However, I am just somewhat really puzzled as to how amazing the spec this phone is. I just loving it apart from two things. The battery could be better but hey with all that juice and cpu it needs to run that beast of a screen its understandable. However, the ultimate thing that bugs me is how it gets incredibly laggy at times when hoping from an app back into the home screen.. Especially in games or Facebook.. Has anyone experienced this issue?
I have rooted my LG g3 too and I have also turned the developer options on in which I have decreased the transition times from the default settings to off or 0.5 for few of the minimise options..
I just hoping anyone can help or have ideas?
Thanks so much

By no means am I trying to be rude, but if you search around a bit, you will see that this is apparently an issue just about everyone has.

blazer2704 said:
Hi Guys,
I am really new to this forum and I deeply apologise if this thread or subject matter has been opened numerous times.
However, I am just somewhat really puzzled as to how amazing the spec this phone is. I just loving it apart from two things. The battery could be better but hey with all that juice and cpu it needs to run that beast of a screen its understandable. However, the ultimate thing that bugs me is how it gets incredibly laggy at times when hoping from an app back into the home screen.. Especially in games or Facebook.. Has anyone experienced this issue?
I have rooted my LG g3 too and I have also turned the developer options on in which I have decreased the transition times from the default settings to off or 0.5 for few of the minimise options..
I just hoping anyone can help or have ideas?
Thanks so much
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There are 2 theories. 1 is that the software isn't optimized and is causing lag. 2. It takes more resources to draw the QHD display, therefore the phones CPU and GPU is having to work harder than an HD display and this is causing lag.

Batfink33 said:
There are 2 theories. 1 is that the software isn't optimized and is causing lag. 2. It takes more resources to draw the QHD display, therefore the phones CPU and GPU is having to work harder than an HD display and this is causing lag.
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I couldnt agree more in regards to the QHD screen. I just hope that can flash Stock Android on to the device or just install something that is different.
Apparently I heard there was rumours that the screen could be decreased to 1080p?

Instead of crying, just got to the hidden menu and enable 60fps in the dynamic lcd refresh menu.

blazer2704 said:
Hi Guys,
I am really new to this forum and I deeply apologise if this thread or subject matter has been opened numerous times.
However, I am just somewhat really puzzled as to how amazing the spec this phone is. I just loving it apart from two things. The battery could be better but hey with all that juice and cpu it needs to run that beast of a screen its understandable. However, the ultimate thing that bugs me is how it gets incredibly laggy at times when hoping from an app back into the home screen.. Especially in games or Facebook.. Has anyone experienced this issue?
I have rooted my LG g3 too and I have also turned the developer options on in which I have decreased the transition times from the default settings to off or 0.5 for few of the minimise options..
I just hoping anyone can help or have ideas?
Thanks so much
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I did the same as you.. I also did a shutdown/restart and then found that everything runs fast. Been 24hrs like this now
I'm pretty happy I guess now. Just wish the AT&T and Canadian versions didnt have the PMA Qi charging

helikido said:
Instead of crying, just got to the hidden menu and enable 60fps in the dynamic lcd refresh menu.
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Who said anyone was crying?
Just stating a problem, and like said i am new to this forum and it take a while to get used to how things work.

blazer2704 said:
like said i am new to this forum and it take a while to get used to how things work.
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People here get mad if you don't use the search efficiently. It's actually one of the forum rules.
If people do get mad, realise that they've probably seen this question 2343636 times and you maybe could have found it. Just move on.

blazer2704 said:
Who said anyone was crying?
Just stating a problem, and like said i am new to this forum and it take a while to get used to how things work.
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Sorry, I did not notice that but just like the next post said, I have seen this complain about 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000x when the fix is about 1 minute away..
Sent from LG Gangster 3

Hey its all good, no worries.. I have managed to find answers to my issues but even after going through the lg hidden menus as another thread states.. its still really laggy..
Just wish i can flash custom stock android rom on my g3 but there none as of yet...

blazer2704 said:
I couldnt agree more in regards to the QHD screen. I just hope that can flash Stock Android on to the device or just install something that is different.
Apparently I heard there was rumours that the screen could be decreased to 1080p?
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That's the stupidest thing I've heard. I own a Nexus 10, a two year old tablet with the same resolution as our G3. It has a dual core processor, running 1,7Ghz. And guess what, it is smooth as hell. Even smoother than my G3, like a lot. And I don't like it... But once the bootloader gets unlocked we could probably see the G3 running flawlessly with Android L.

rimatox said:
That's the stupidest thing I've heard. I own a Nexus 10, a two year old tablet with the same resolution as our G3. It has a dual core processor, running 1,7Ghz. And guess what, it is smooth as hell. Even smoother than my G3, like a lot. And I don't like it... But once the bootloader gets unlocked we could probably see the G3 running flawlessly with Android L.
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I am sorry to disappoint but some people are not as fortunate to have the intelligence that other have and as life has evolved, so will my knowledge as time goes by in having my phone...
I have been a LG G3 user for month and 2 weeks so far. First android phone. From an avid iPhone 4 user since it came out...
I'd greatly appreciate if people could respect me and help me rather than slate me for my 'noob' questions...
Other than that thanks to everyone who has shared light with me and who can continue to provide amazing advice.
After boundless and endless search, i have after hours of tedious trail and error managed to flash the leaked firmware 10j that i see floating about on the forum on my D855 and noticed a slight decrease in lag.. I have also changed the runtime from Dalvik to ART.. Which made a slight increase in speeds...
Aside from that can anyone please give extra tips and personal tweaks they done to boost there performance?
Thank you ever so much!:good:

blazer2704 said:
I am sorry to disappoint but some people are not as fortunate to have the intelligence that other have and as life has evolved, so will my knowledge as time goes by in having my phone...
I have been a LG G3 user for month and 2 weeks so far. First android phone. From an avid iPhone 4 user since it came out...
I'd greatly appreciate if people could respect me and help me rather than slate me for my 'noob' questions...
Other than that thanks to everyone who has shared light with me and who can continue to provide amazing advice.
After boundless and endless search, i have after hours of tedious trail and error managed to flash the leaked firmware 10j that i see floating about on the forum on my D855 and noticed a slight decrease in lag.. I have also changed the runtime from Dalvik to ART.. Which made a slight increase in speeds...
Aside from that can anyone please give extra tips and personal tweaks they done to boost there performance?
Thank you ever so much!:good:
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First I'd like to apologize for all the rude people around here. Sorry buddy.
Second there are many things you can do to make your phone faster and lag free.
I copied this from the post here to make it easier for you.
Open the dial pad, then type the following number, choose one code that matches with your device model:
- 3845#*855# (Intl)
- 3845#*851# (TMo)
- 3845#*850# (AT&T)
- 5689#*980# (Sprint)A hidden menu will be showing up, scroll down till you find “High Temperature Property”.Tap it, then*turn it ON.
Now find thermal daemon mitigation and turn it on either. switch off your phone, and wait for about 15 seconds.Next,*turn it on*again, when you see screen lock, wait at least 35 seconds.Enjoy your lag-free LG G3.
Third, I advice you to change the launcher. I suggest nova since it's full of customization and really light.
Here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
Install it play around with for a while. It's easy to customize it the way you like.
Enjoy your phone buddy...

tntgdh said:
First I'd like to apologize for all the rude people around here. Sorry buddy.
Second there are many things you can do to make your phone faster and lag free.
I copied this from the post here to make it easier for you.
Open the dial pad, then type the following number, choose one code that matches with your device model:
- 3845#*855# (Intl)
- 3845#*851# (TMo)
- 3845#*850# (AT&T)
- 5689#*980# (Sprint)A hidden menu will be showing up, scroll down till you find “High Temperature Property”.Tap it, then*turn it ON.
Now find thermal daemon mitigation and turn it on either. switch off your phone, and wait for about 15 seconds.Next,*turn it on*again, when you see screen lock, wait at least 35 seconds.Enjoy your lag-free LG G3.
Third, I advice you to change the launcher. I suggest nova since it's full of customization and really light.
Here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.launcher
Install it play around with for a while. It's easy to customize it the way you like.
Enjoy your phone buddy...
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Thanks ever so much for your amazing support and suggestions.
I have managed to do the sugggested list that you mentioned. I just realised a new issue with my phone that I really am surprised about now. I charge my phone at 100% and within 2 hours I have lost a good 30% of my battery within a space of 2 hours.. By having the phone on just locked.. All recent apps closed. Its a strange issue. I dont know why all of a sudden.. I can see in the battery menu that andriod os and android system are taken up about 47% and the display taking 35%...
Im sorry to branch from one issue to another but I dont really know what to do. And I am really worried in doing factory reset and losing my data. I am having to charge my phone in space of 2 times in a day.. doesnt make sense.
Thanks so much

blazer2704 said:
Thanks ever so much for your amazing support and suggestions.
I have managed to do the sugggested list that you mentioned. I just realised a new issue with my phone that I really am surprised about now. I charge my phone at 100% and within 2 hours I have lost a good 30% of my battery within a space of 2 hours.. By having the phone on just locked.. All recent apps closed. Its a strange issue. I dont know why all of a sudden.. I can see in the battery menu that andriod os and android system are taken up about 47% and the display taking 35%...
Im sorry to branch from one issue to another but I dont really know what to do. And I am really worried in doing factory reset and losing my data. I am having to charge my phone in space of 2 times in a day.. doesnt make sense.
Thanks so much
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Can you post a screen shot of your battery stats so we can see what's using the most battery? It could be a rogue process killing the battery.

There is probably some app eating your battery. Try to post a screenshot of you battery stats. To do so press power button and volume down at the same time and hold them for a second.
Any way, Apart from the battery issue, how's the smoothness?

As you can see in mine I'm off the battery for 3 hours. Haven't used the phone e so far since I'm home playing battlefield 4. Still at 100 %.
At first the battery drains a lot faster when in a new rom, the it settles.
But in your case it is draining way to fast.
Restart your phone, give it a full charge and let it rest for an hour. Let us know how it goes.

Thanks guys for your response, I am really shocked as to why my battery is just eating up soooo fast like that... You can see from the graph in the screenshot that it just plummets down sooo fast within hours..My screen brightness is set at 50% without no auto brightness and I don't really have much apps running.. Im really bemused as to whats going on?
I removed the battery for a while and I also restarted my phone.. This is a MASSIVE improvement because the Android OS and Android System was both taken up a good 40% and screen 30%.. but even with the stats shown I'm still reducing significant amount of battery..

blazer2704 said:
Thanks guys for your response, I am really shocked as to why my battery is just eating up soooo fast like that... You can see from the graph in the screenshot that it just plummets down sooo fast within hours..My screen brightness is set at 50% without no auto brightness and I don't really have much apps running.. Im really bemused as to whats going on?
I removed the battery for a while and I also restarted my phone.. This is a MASSIVE improvement because the Android OS and Android System was both taken up a good 40% and screen 30%.. but even with the stats shown I'm still reducing significant amount of battery..
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Hi guys i just quoted the above message, coz I have had issues with trying to login to my other account.... Same person just quote this username now...
Thanks and this is for moderators to also know..Cheers.

blazer2704 said:
Thanks guys for your response, I am really shocked as to why my battery is just eating up soooo fast like that... You can see from the graph in the screenshot that it just plummets down sooo fast within hours..My screen brightness is set at 50% without no auto brightness and I don't really have much apps running.. Im really bemused as to whats going on?
I removed the battery for a while and I also restarted my phone.. This is a MASSIVE improvement because the Android OS and Android System was both taken up a good 40% and screen 30%.. but even with the stats shown I'm still reducing significant amount of battery..
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It seems to me that your battery is settling down. Guy it a 3 or 4 full cicles and let me know it has stabilized.
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I'm Using it for a while know. Mine is doing really good.

Suggestions in buying this phone

Hello guys, I am really interested in buying this phone and I don't want to make a mistake, as this maybe will be my phone for the next 2-3 years, maybe more.I want to know your opinions, does this phone worth to buy? Does it have that annoying bloatware that slows the phone alot(I have a s3 now and I know what I am talking ) and in everyday usage does it work smooth, how is the multitasking and the battery in normal usage (fb, calls etc)?
Also I am between this and the LG G3, I can see a lot of negative thoughts about M8 camera quality,is this true?
Thanks in advance and hope we'll meet in this forum shortly

1) What bloatware the phone has, depends on what variant you buy. But I think the Euro version are pretty clean (at least compared to some of the bloat-ridden US versions). In any case, the phone is very smooth and fast. Some folks complain about lag on Lollipop (known issue on LP in general) but I don't see it. In any case, the phone is not plagued by OS lag like the Samsung GS5 and tablets.
2) Most folks that complain about the camera don't know anything about taking pictures, and are just looking at the MP number, not the actual image quality. M8 camera loses some detail in daylight. But probably only important if blowing up or cropping the photos. The camera excels most other smartphones (at least for its "generation") in low light. Which is particularly important if you take a lot of pics indoors.
There are some other opinion on the following thread, that includes one guy that is considering ditching the LG G3 for the M8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/wrong-t3069102

redpoint73 said:
1) What bloatware the phone has, depends on what variant you buy. But I think the Euro version are pretty clean (at least compared to some of the bloat-ridden US versions). In any case, the phone is very smooth and fast. Some folks complain about lag on Lollipop (known issue on LP in general) but I don't see it. In any case, the phone is not plagued by OS lag like the Samsung GS5 and tablets.
2) Most folks that complain about the camera don't know anything about taking pictures, and are just looking at the MP number, not the actual image quality. M8 camera loses some detail in daylight. But probably only important if blowing up or cropping the photos. The camera excels most other smartphones (at least for its "generation") in low light. Which is particularly important if you take a lot of pics indoors.
There are some other opinion on the following thread, that includes one guy that is considering ditching the LG G3 for the M8: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/help/wrong-t3069102
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Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?

gabyif said:
Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?
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I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.

gabyif said:
Thanks for the answer my friend, but how is the battery, how much SOT did you get after a day of moderate work?
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The above response from TempesZ is better than I can give on this; as I'll have to admit I'm personally not a heavy user on the phone most days (on work computer all day, than mostly use my tablet at home in the evenings). But with light usage, I can get up to 48 hours on a single charge. If my kid uses the phone to watch movies or play games for a couple hours, I can still easily make it through the day with some charge left by the time I put it on the charger before bed.

TempestZ said:
I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.
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Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
redpoint73 said:
The above response from TempesZ is better than I can give on this; as I'll have to admit I'm personally not a heavy user on the phone most days (on work computer all day, than mostly use my tablet at home in the evenings). But with light usage, I can get up to 48 hours on a single charge. If my kid uses the phone to watch movies or play games for a couple hours, I can still easily make it through the day with some charge left by the time I put it on the charger before bed.
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gabyif said:
Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
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Nope.

gabyif said:
Thank you for your answers guys, I think I just changed my mind .BTW...does it heat more than normal?
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if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/

Here's a whole thread of photo samples, if you want to see what the M8 is capable of: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694621
Seanie280672 said:
if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/
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It looks to me like HTC tried to cheat on benchmarks (by turning off the thermal throttling) and it backfired! And most of the smartphone manufacturers do cheat on these.

Seanie280672 said:
if you want a phone to put in your pocket to keep things warm in those cold winter days, then buy an M9 http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m9-overheating-594799/
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Nice one mate )

TempestZ said:
I get around 6-7 hours of screen on time with 4g/3g and 1 hour of gaming. I can't finish the battery in a day on normal use. I don't have the time. Refer to this post and thread for screen shots. I don't run with gps or location on when not needed or auto sync.
Most bloatware from carrier I could uninstall (I'm on vodafone, not sure about orange or telekom) and bloat from HTC (useful stuff but if don't need it is bloatware) like kid mode, dot view mode and such can't be uninstalled. Stock Sense is fast, the fastest I ever seen on android and the speakers will blow you away first time you hear them
Rooting and flashing roms is easy and you don't need S-OFF for that but make sure you do a nandroid on your stock so you can revert and take the otas when needed.
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How do you manage to get such good battery life? I get 5.5 hours of screen time at best. That may be due to me having horrible service in my area. Still running stock Lollipop.

dima470 said:
How do you manage to get such good battery life? I get 5.5 hours of screen time at best. That may be due to me having horrible service in my area. Still running stock Lollipop.
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Depends what you are doing with your phone. 7 hours I hit in wifi and without using chrome too much (read hours) and instead relying on things like tapatalk and apps and no games. I am using Maximus HD with stock kernel. I have good signal (always 100%) and brightness usually is low enough and at night is at 0. I can tell you brightness makes a massive difference. I don't use auto brightness but manual and never use gps and location unless I need it. For example if I browse XDA through the xda developers app I get around 11-12% per hour drain on wifi and around 15% on 4g. (check picture, 20 min screen, 4% drain)
Keeping wakelocks to a minimum helps a lot to conserve that extra juice for your screen time. I use my android tools to disable wakelocks and greenify on stuff like facebook. No auto sync either since that would be only my mail and I don't need sync for that.
If I game and have WiFi on I usually hit 6 hours with 1 hour of games or so and that's my average sot.
I don't use Google apps except Google newsstand that syncs only when I want to read it and Google play services which is mandatory. No Google+, no maps (I use waze), no gmail ( ok maybe I use inbox with no auto sync). In Google settings I disabled location history and of course I don't use Google now (another useless drain) though you might use it.
I don't use blinkfeed, I use nova launcher.
Oh and power saver kicks in at 15% and it helps for the last hour or more. It reduces your CPU from 2.3 to 1.2 ghz but I think it's worth the performance impact at that point. 5% is extreme saver time but I never let it go that low on purpose
Check Darth's thread for tips.

Lolipop Memory Issues Poll: T-700

I can't make a poll thread from Tapatalk I guess, so I'm just looking for comments.
I got the notice to download the 5.0 update today. I'm hesitant to do so due to the many issues reported for other devices. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that had serious issues until google released the update to 5.1. I do not want to repeat that experience (it took months of waiting).
I have the US version of the 8.4 inch Tab S.
For those of you who have installed the update, have you noticed any issues, specifically memory related? I am not looking for opinions about whether you like Lolipop, so I would request only comments regarding what differences, if any, you notice in how the tablet is running after the update.
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I have the U.S. Tab S 8.4 WiFi and updated to Lollipop. It's running smooth and snappier than KitKat. I haven't noticed any memory issues with it. Battery life is good so far, on par with how it was under KitKat for me.

Thanks. I would hope samsung would make certain the update would not cause this problem, but you never know! It's pretty well documented at this point.
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Mine reboots constantly. Garbage.

So we've got one person who updated without problems and one who is having reboots. Who else has taken the update and what experience did you have?
Also, does anybody know what the options are to downgrade if it turns out that 5.0 does have a lot of problems?

No problems on my S 8.4. I also have Touchwiz Lollipop (5.0.1) on my Galaxy S4 with no problems. I read somewhere that the memory leak issue was only a problem on AOSP builds, not OEM (Samsung, HTC, etc) releases. I don't know if that's true. I'm 100% happy with Lollipop on my S 8.4.

all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.

Originally, I had a 2012 Nexus 7. After installing 5.0, it became unusable. I tried almost everything I read to no avail. Actually, it had started slowing down and having and having random app crashes b4 that, but it got much worse after installing 5.0
I gave up on it and bought the Tab 8.4, which I'm loving. Several weeks later, I went back to the Nexus 7 and used Wug's Toolkit to wipe and install 5.1.1. That has actually seemed to fix my issues with that tablet. Now I'm thinking perhaps I didn't need to get the Samsung, but oh well. I like the larger screen (I always said tablets should come in 8 inches, not 7), the rear camera, and the responsiveness. I'm keeping it!
Because of my negative experience with 5.0, I was hesitant to install this update. However, I installed it yesterday and so far (after 24 hours), it seems to be fine. I like being able to see my notifications on the lock screen again. It still appears to be snappy. It has not been long enough for me to judge battery time yet. So far it looks good.
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killerb777 said:
all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.

After the update it was all good with my tablet, smoth and fast.
Now it's getting worse, Nova launcher is always crashing, sometimes it reboots by itself, lag came back and some apps freeze...
I hope that Samsung release a new update.

Does the OTA update work with root installed?, I have the T800.
John.

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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
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There's some apps/games that don't work on rooted devices so I had to keep it stock.

I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"

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I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?

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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
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that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker

After three days I agree with HANSB57. However, my opinion is completely subjective. I have not measured anything.
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Unstable after OTA lollipop update on Samsung Tab S 8.4
HANSB57 said:
that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
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I also experience frequent reboots using certain apps or even general Web browsing. I just restored to factory default so I will see if things improve. So far I've already experienced one crash after doing this. Hopefully a follow up update is in the works.

S6 Edge 5.1.1, hows it treating you?

I didn't find a specific thread for the new official update, if this is a superfluous thread then I apologize. Did the odin path as was rooted previously. Did a wipe in recovery after install. Im having mixed results. I notice quite a bit more stutters in animation. My ram is constantly floating around 80 plus percent used. But the annoying one is the heating up on basic stuff. I was using cpu-z and it was reporting 41f. So i know its been less than 24h out. But im hoping that isn't persistent. Love the dng support using camera fv-5. But thats my small rant. I would like to hears other peoples current early state experince. I also ran the 5.1.1 leak and didnt have the heating up isssue so peculiar.

Battery life to me is the same it might be better if I can get ride of all the bloat ...and I have notice some stutter lag but it hasn't done it in awhile could have been me installing app during my set up .....when hit recent apps it pops up real quick ....really disappointed in 5.1.1 I really want guest mode so my daughter can play her games with out touching my stuff that was the most thing I was looking forward too besides memory leak ...quest mode was leaked out in the 5.1.1 beta why not on the official release

sucks for us, get about 4hrs less of usage, not to impressed with the speed, man I miss my alliance rom. im dead and theres no guest mode

Mine is great. Battery is good for its capacity, my bloat is still disabled, and it's faster.

Battery life has been horrible. I watch the percentage drop every 1-2 minutes while using the phone. Didn't do this pre-update.
The lag and slow icon/widget redraws is a little better but still not eliminated.

Network signal has been very intermittent after the update... I am not sure if I am paranoid

Did anybody wipe after install?

I did a full wipe

After pushing my phone hard today on LTE all day a bunch of YouTube and web browsing all day this is what I got

gruiz3 said:
I didn't find a specific thread for the new official update, if this is a superfluous thread then I apologize. Did the odin path as was rooted previously. Did a wipe in recovery after install. Im having mixed results. I notice quite a bit more stutters in animation. My ram is constantly floating around 80 plus percent used. But the annoying one is the heating up on basic stuff. I was using cpu-z and it was reporting 41f. So i know its been less than 24h out. But im hoping that isn't persistent. Love the dng support using camera fv-5. But thats my small rant. I would like to hears other peoples current early state experince. I also ran the 5.1.1 leak and didnt have the heating up isssue so peculiar.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/general/5-1-1-ota-rollout-t3096197
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...ral/g920tuvu2cof6-thats-5-1-1-update-t3135500

Overheating --> Network/Device Lag? Marshmallow, M9

I know my way around Android well enough I could probably teach a class. I've been excited for the Marshmallow update for my Verizon M9, mostly for the security update. Now I've got it, and udderly hate it. Not only is this marshmallow über soft and squishy, it's somehow managed to swallow the majority of my CPU--much like BOB from Monsters vs Aliens. Actually, the update is more like BOB than a delicious couple of calories. Tremendous lag from god knows where, constant freezing and other **** when in hpm--whether it be plugged in or not--which often crashes apps altogether or causes a reboot, keyboard latency of about 1.5seconds, network disconnecting when the device exceeds 120℉, ooh!, and the cherry on top: loss of data. I use my phone for both business/class-related stuff and for gaming/pleasure(shh, creeps) because I'm too broke to buy anything else. The front-facing speakers get glitcy and doing that pausing crap like when you drive outta radio range in a car. This was never a problem with Lollipop, but is making Android a living hell to deal with. MHL has yet to work on Marshmallow, and instead simply crashes the phone. Again. Can't find ANYthing ANYwhere about this. Both Verizon and HTC are refusing to talk to me directly about it; keep getting passed to the next rep, who tries to put me through their template of troubleshooting steps. Wiping cache partition worked...for all of ten minutes. If that. HTC wants to take my phone for two weeks, which won't work due to classes.
Full stock M9. I use App Mgr III for new moving apps quickly, App Cache Cleaner because I'm lazy, and Greenify to kill some stuff that I've got, e.g., Ingress, Skype, snapchat. Greenify does NOT allow killing of bloatware/pre-installed crap, so let me tape the mouths of those twits shut now. Most pre-installed apps, including all but two of the Verizon things, are disabled.
The game I notice the most trouble on is Walking War Robots, can't tell if it has to do with graphics or the processor itself. Chrome browser is quite laggy; Drive is almost unresponsive as is Docs; have lost quite a bit of data from Microsoft Word, both saved and documents being worked on. Reception is also quite a bit worse with the Marshmallow update, calls being dropped more frequently and location often having trouble pinpointing me on high-accuracy.
As I do NOT have a computer, reseting the device is not an option. The recaptcha thingy took almost 30 seconds to load; on Lollipop, they took less than five.

I fully agree with you. My experience with marshmallow has only been negative so far.
1) Incredibly Laggy. Back in the day, installing a kitkat or lollipop rom, the phone would be super fluid and would only slightly lag when installing the 50 apps. God forbid when I was installing marshmallow it seriously hung like 5 seconds and was going at maximum 10fps.
2) Heat. The phone appears to get even warmer now. How is that even possible?
3) Battery Life. My battery appears to be 10% worse. I used to only charge it at night but now I have to charge it after work around 8pm.
I do have some hope though. I'm waiting for Neo or Santod to compile a debloated rom and hoping that clears up these issues.

I was experiencing terrible lag, it seems to be settling down now. I was overheating, but that seems to have settled as well. Biggest problem is that I'm only charging at 550mA with a 2A quick charger. That's new, and totally unacceptable. Also, HTC emojis are gone. All I have are the stupid jellybean/potato looking guys and I can't decipher which emotion they are trying to relay. Chics dig emojis, and here I am feeling emoji blind.
Edit: Lag is still terrible

In the same boat.. this update is not good. This phone is so laggy and slow now it's like my OG Droid 1 from years ago. Cleared cache after installing.. waited the obligatory 45 minutes to rebuild stuff. Uninstalled the bloatware I could and it literally took minutes to do a simple uninstall. Hasn't got any better in the last day at all. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two I'll have to go back to Lollipop. This is probably the most buggy, laggy, battery killing Android update I've seen on any of my Android phones since Droid 1 days. Anyone else getting this or know of any kind of fix? I just can't imagine HTC and VZW pushed this out if problems like these are a common occurrence.

I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)

Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.

I was having many heat/lag issues as described above when I flashed the zip dirty or clean. I had to do a RUU with the MM update. Now it's super smooth. Still get lots of heat when the system is booting up for the first time/settling in. But after that, no issues.

how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?

baune7 said:
Yeah, I've thought about pulling the trigger w/ Venom rom but I wanted to stay just stock rooted on my M9. If you install viper rom do you have to factory reset? I just despise doing that so much and don't want to if I don't have to. If it doesn't get better in the next day or two, I'll probably give viper a go with a full wipe.
On a side note, is this a fairly common issue with this update and the M9?? Some are saying in the other thread theirs is nice and smooth.
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Yea you will have to root. The thing is, Venom is literally a STOCK rooted M9 that has all bloat cut away and 1 small app for additional features (like changing status bar and power button for flashlight.). It is well worth it.
baune7 said:
how is everyone's battery with this? Mine is absolutely horrible! Just this morning sitting here.. 3 hours, down to 78% already and haven't even done anything very intensive with it. Few messages on Whatsapp, texts, a picture. This phone sucks right now. Yesterday only lasted about 10 hours with normal use. Before I would get at least a normal day out of it without worrying. What the hell is going on with MM that is sucking the life out of this phone?
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Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.

im_high_tech said:
Try Venom Rom. I had so many issues with Verizon MM that I gave up on it.
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I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.

mcampos7 said:
I've also had better luck with Venom. I just flashed it about 8 hours ago but the lag is gone (so far). Charging on a quick charger still sucks. Haven't been able to gauge battery life yet. No overheating.
Update: My battery is discharging at -1650mA.
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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness

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Keep checking. It shouldn't be discharging that much unless your tethering on full brightness
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It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.

mcampos7 said:
It spikes and dips. On average it drains around around 600-800mA. No tethering, 50% brightness. Never had this issue til M. Crazy.
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I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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I'm also on the elemental kernel

im_high_tech said:
I just tested mine on Venom and with around 25 percent brightness using Facebook on WiFi I'm getting 250mA drain MAX
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-450mA atm using xda app & hangouts
Now -60
-320

Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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I can barely get my phone to charge. I'm going back to L. If I nand back, do I need to flash 5.1 firmware or isn't hate covered in the nand?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.

4.3 Request
im_high_tech said:
I FIGURED IT OUT GUYS?!!
So ViperROM just put out version 4.3.0.
I always thought ViperROM was some weird bloated ROM with weird features so i never gave it a go, but its basically a slimmed down HTC SENSE with a small amount of tweaks. My phone is BUTTERY smooth now. =)
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Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?

c5satellite2 said:
Anyone having problems after the stock VERIZON MM OTA needs to do a FACTORY RESET.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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Mmmm, but my original post was about the M9. Not the M8. They're similar, but the M8 has a superior processor. Imo it'd be amaz to have my custom (and unfortunately shattered) M8's processors and RAM in my M9. Fix all these issues. But, alas.....
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This.
Guys, I finally did do the factory reset despite how much I hate having to do that. From both inside android, and from within TWRP just to be sure. It made the world of difference. I know having to re-install and set up all your apps is a huge pain the ass, but it seriously made a huge difference. Mine lasted 1 day, 13 hours with my typical usage and was still at like 9-10% I think when I re-charged it. Everything is back to working really smooth, no lag, and no heating issues. Something left over from before doesn't play nice at all with the new ROM. Hope this might help if you guys decide to stay on stock.
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In scale, that prolly equates to about 70% of my normal day, minus gaming. Right now I'm getting through about 30% of my day, minus gaming, before needing a charge. Even with QC, charging takes about 40% longer than it did on Lollipop.
Still neither factory reset nor rooting is an option, as I have nothing to back my stuff up on. No, the local library isn't kind enough to me for that lol.

Snoopy679 said:
Question i have went to the Viper website and i can not find the 4.3 rom just able to download 4.2 please tell me where am i going wrong thanks?
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