I have a Note 3 and im trying to figure out the process of rooting without tripping the Knox Counter. I rooted my Note 2, years ago and has been awhile. Also like to know is there a "triangle away" method to reset the counter.
Model: SM-900T
Android: 5.0
Baseband: N900TUVUFOL1
Kernel: 3.4.0-6005498
Knox: 2.3
Thanks in advance
As far as I know, there is no way to root without tripping Knox.
If the phone is not under warranty, tripping knox should not be an issue. I have tripped Knox on a few phones and have never had an issue.
I asked the same question a while back, and only just 2 days ago rooted my SM-N900T knox 0x0. Asked: Here.
To achieve root on the note 3 without tripping knox you must downgrade from the Lollipop firmware OB6, or FOL1 to NE6 using PC Odin.
Once downgraded to NE6 download and use TowelRoot. This will unlock root without tripping knox, NE6 was the last vulnerable firmware for towelroot on the t-mobile note 3.
Make sure you are flashing official t-mobile firmwares only for kitkat/lollipop when using PC odin.
Flashing any custom recovery, kernal, rom, bootloader, or no longer supported android version (4.3 jellybean) will trip knox.
You can use sammobile to get official firmwares, or if you're risky there are likely download mirrors scattered through the internet.
Once you're rooted on kitkat NE6, to get back to Lollipop and keep root you'll need Mobile Odin Pro to flash FOL1 with the latest Super SU Zip v2.46. (instructions first page of this thread: Here.)
Rooting seems to require some gonads and research first.
When using PC Odin I left options default (Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time).
When using Mobile Odin Pro (or maybe flashfire) make sure to uncheck EverRoot!
Flashfire is the newer free mobile odin pro I think. You might be able to use it in place of Mobile Odin Pro and instead of the supersu zip in addition to flashing FOL1 it comes with an option to inject SuperSU.
I recommend sticking with mobile odin pro for confirmed results. MOP does not support Lollipop.
Note that once you're rooted and upgrade to Lollipop your android system status will change from normal to custom. This prevents future OTA updates.
Root survives factory reset, but flashing official firmware with pc odin will make your phone genuine again as long as you didn't trip knox.
Downgrading to kitkat will very likely require a factory restore. Possibly also when upgrading back to Lollipop.
Note that the XPosed framework on lollipop and samsung touchwiz stock roms does not seem supported.
It seems some people have flashed a Deodexed rom and unofficial xposed to have it working. I made a single attempt and was unable to have it working.
I assume you could stay on kitkat and manage to get xposed working easy.
If you decide to use xposed, do not try to flash the framework without mobile odin pro, or flashfire.
Using a custom recovery, or flashing anything custom with PC Odin will trip knox.
Look over the information around to get a comfortable understanding and good luck!
Proceed only with the understanding that you could always on accident trip knox, or brick your phone.
I believe there is no known way to reset knox flag to 0 on the SM-N900T.
For future readers using a newer firmware than FOL1 it may no longer be possible to pc odin downgrade to kitkat without tripping knox.
So there is no way of downgrading without tripping knox
You can downgrade to kitkat NE6 using PC odin from t-mobile lollipop firmware OB6/OL1. (OL1 being the latest lollipop firmware, OB6 a version older). Once on kitkat NE6 firmware u can use towelroot to gain root and you will not trip knox. Unless you manage to check an option somewhere during this process that would cause you to trip knox. .
As stated, I achieved downgrading/rooting without tripping knox just a couple days ago from the current latest t-mobile galaxy note 3 (SM-N900T) firmware FOL1.
I then upgraded back from KitKat NE6 to Lollipop FOL1 using mobile odin pro.
You can probably downgrade to any 4.4 kitkat firmware, NOT 4.3 jellybean, just fine without tripping knox if you have a kitkat, or lollipop firmware up to FOL1.
I'll try it later, I also want to know if custom roms are possible
From what I've read you can install a custom rom as long as it has a stock kernel, otherwise you trip knox. You would need to flash with flashfire, or mobile odin pro though...
I've only used the stock firmware on my note 3 so don't completely know about using a custom rom.
I don't think a custom ROM can be flash via Odin. A custom ROM requires a custom recovery and a custom recovery will trip Knox on a stock KK or LP AFAIK.
Ohh ok. This is all sorta new to me as well. I had just assumed mobile odin pro could because FlashFire is its "successor".
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Hi..sorry if this has been answered, but I don't see it on t-mobile.
I am planning to root my phone to run the regionlock (hopefully unlock sim). Getting confused with all the different methods available.
I don't want to trip Knox..was planning to use RDLV, but then read something about Kingo, but that wasn't listed as a method for rooting on the FAQ?
So what's the difference? Is one better than other? I also read that any installation of ROMs will trigger the knox? So if I rooted, how can I get to the newest firmware? Just unroot and update OTA?
If you are 4.3 you can root without tripping knox. I used RDLV I felt is was safer. XDA removed Kingo, it may not be safe. I know many have used it and are a big fan of Kingo. I did not like idea of some third party rooting my phone, they can do anything they choose to do. That is just my personal choice.
If you are 4.4.2 Kitkat, the rooting method available will trip Knox.
OTA, will not work automatically. You will need to use Odin. There are threads on how to all the above.
I am stock rooted 4.3, I have not jump on the Kitkat wagon yet. There are mixed reviews on moving to Kitkat.
Good luck and enjoy!
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smaisonville said:
If you are 4.3 you can root without tripping knox. I used RDLV I felt is was safer. XDA removed Kingo, it may not be safe. I know many have used it and are a big fan of Kingo. I did not like idea of some third party rooting my phone, they can do anything they choose to do. That is just my personal choice.
If you are 4.4.2 Kitkat, the rooting method available will trip Knox.
OTA, will not work automatically. You will need to use Odin. There are threads on how to all the above.
I am stock rooted 4.3, I have not jump on the Kitkat wagon yet. There are mixed reviews on moving to Kitkat.
Good luck and enjoy!
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Thanks. if I stay rooted but want to move up to Kitkat but not use custom ROM, can I flash the offical firmware? And would that trigger KNOX? I read any flashing ROM will trigger it too? This is much more complicated...did this stuff a few years ago with HTC...now there's so much more stuff to consider
newr said:
Thanks. if I stay rooted but want to move up to Kitkat but not use custom ROM, can I flash the offical firmware? And would that trigger KNOX? I read any flashing ROM will trigger it too? This is much more complicated...did this stuff a few years ago with HTC...now there's so much more stuff to consider
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i think you can flash to 4.4.2 (KitKat) using odin mobile pro without triggering knox, at least that's what i've read on here that others have done successfully. if you want to upgrade you'll need to upgrade your bootloader too. keep in mind that once you do this, you can't revert or downgrade back to jellybean 4.3 or downgrade the bootloader (knox requires a signed bootloader to go with a signed official ROM, apparently).
personally if i were you i'd stay on jellybean 4.3 and use the root de la vega method. i'm a bit miffed mine came with 4.4.2 already on it.
i miss how easy it all was back on HTC too could root, flash recovery, ROM, kernel, and return to factory settings like new. *sigh*
eudemonics said:
i think you can flash to 4.4.2 (KitKat) using odin mobile pro without triggering knox, at least that's what i've read on here that others have done successfully. if you want to upgrade you'll need to upgrade your bootloader too. keep in mind that once you do this, you can't revert or downgrade back to jellybean 4.3 or downgrade the bootloader (knox requires a signed bootloader to go with a signed official ROM, apparently).
personally if i were you i'd stay on jellybean 4.3 and use the root de la vega method. i'm a bit miffed mine came with 4.4.2 already on it.
i miss how easy it all was back on HTC too could root, flash recovery, ROM, kernel, and return to factory settings like new. *sigh*
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Do you mean flashing 4.4.2 official rom which will become unroot again right? How about going to 4.4.2 and stay root with stock type ROM..not customized?
newr said:
Do you mean flashing 4.4.2 official rom which will become unroot again right? How about going to 4.4.2 and stay root with stock type ROM..not customized?
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if you go the mobile odin pro route, it should root it again for you if it gets unrooted
you can get the steps on how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root with knox 0x0 using mobile odin pro on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412&page=2
eudemonics said:
if you go the mobile odin pro route, it should root it again for you if it gets unrooted
you can get the steps on how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root with knox 0x0 using mobile odin pro on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412&page=2
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I saw in that thread, he spent $4 for odin pro?
Hi guys can someone help to update my GT-N7100 which running on official 4.1.2 to official 4.4.2 N7100XXUFND3 Without Installing Knox By Trying Like This Method I Saw On Youtube : How to remove KNOX Bootloader on Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini firmware (with Linux)?
-On This Official Rom "N7100XXUFND3" (The Question Is Can I Delete The "sboot.bin" And/or "boot.img" From This Rom And It Will Not Update My Bootloader To Knox When I Flash It With Odin 3.07 Or It Will Hard Brick My Device).
Thanks In Advance,Any Help Or Info Is Really appreciated .
(And Excuse Me If There Is Any Mistakes In My Language).
Wifi with bootloader older than 4.3 not working at 4.3 or 4.4. OK now for this method first you need root and second you have to flash mj5 bootloader, it is writing Knox bit etc but is cosmetic and is possible to downgrade at everything you want. After you have to use mobile Odin to flash 4.4.2 official from your device (mobile Odin flashes everything except bootloader) and you will be ready but not rooted. If you need root you have to flash philz recovery 6.25... + and flash from recovery supersu update 1.94. After root also you can remove with a root file manager completely Knox apps from your device. If you want to restore warranty flash again original recovery with mobile Odin (if you don't want to extract the firmware put all firmware at mobile Odin at the place which is writing recovery) and after run triangle away 3.26. Links you can find at forum. If you own mobile Odin pro is good to know that ever root for the moment not working at 4.4.2 and you have to do the same procedure.
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Hi guys I am new to this tablet so any advice but be appreciated.
If i update to kitkat I am told the knox security feature would be installed too.
What if I leave my note 8.0 on 4.2 and root and use custom roms and then if I decide to unroot and flash kitkat, would knox be triggered due to historic custom roms?
fazzxx said:
Hi guys I am new to this tablet so any advice but be appreciated.
If i update to kitkat I am told the knox security feature would be installed too.
What if I leave my note 8.0 on 4.2 and root and use custom roms and then if I decide to unroot and flash kitkat, would knox be triggered due to historic custom roms?
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Pretty sure flashing a custom recovery will trip knox. No way around it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800290
Ok thanks what if I just root and not flash a custom rom, would this trigger the knox?
fazzxx said:
Ok thanks what if I just root and not flash a custom rom, would this trigger the knox?
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It depends on the rooting method you use. The one I used to root 4.4.2 after I updated via Odin was Chainfire's CF-Auto-Root and that tripped KNOX because it installs an unsigned (by Samsung) custom recovery temporarily before re-flashing the stock version.
I've never used Kingo but they claim to be able to root the Note 3 without tripping the KNOX flag so their method using an Android vulnerability to gain temporary root might work for the Note 8.0 as well.
My suggestion would be to use these forums and Google to research all the current methods for rooting the Note 8.0 and make sure there are users who have done it successfully with the KitKat boot loader installed and not tripped the KNOX "warranty" indicator.
Based on the KNOX articles I've read it appears that flashing, or even booting, an insecure kernel can set the eFuse switch which is said to be "impossible" to reverse, so flashing custom kernels and ROM's is out even if you can get root with the stock ROM without tripping the indicator.
I can understand the requirement for KNOX in high security environments but automatically voiding the warranty is just encouraging users to brick their devices in ways that prevent the KNOX flag from being accessed. Perhaps Samsung's position is that once the eFuse flag is set even their service centers cannot reverse it so the device is not able to reconditioned and sold since a tripped KNOX flag also disables some security features in the stock ROM.
Edit: I just read your OP again and if you don't flash the 4.4.2 (KitKat) bootloader and root with CF-Auto-Root you should be fine, even flashing custom kernels and ROM's, and still go back to a completely stock configuration using Odin to install the stock 4.2.2 ROM and TriangleAway to reset the flash counter. AFAIK there is no check of any historical data when the KNOX enabled 4.4.2 bootloader is installed but I would make sure that TriangleAway has successfully reset the flash counter before upgrading just to be safe.
ramjet73
My Note have 4.3 and it's rooted with Kingosoft. KNOX has NOT been trip.
I am wondering if I can upgrade to 4.4.2 and use TowelRoot to root WITHOUT tripping KNOX, as follow:
1. Unroot with Kingosoft (the Windows app is capable of this)
2. Hard reset the phone
3. Obtain 4.4.2 via OTA (or KIES?)
4. Use TowelRoot
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lanwarrior said:
My Note have 4.3 and it's rooted with Kingosoft. KNOX has NOT been trip.
I am wondering if I can upgrade to 4.4.2 and use TowelRoot to root WITHOUT tripping KNOX, as follow:
1. Unroot with Kingosoft (the Windows app is capable of this)
2. Hard reset the phone
3. Obtain 4.4.2 via OTA (or KIES?)
4. Use TowelRoot
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You don't need to un-root the phone.
#1: Perform a hard reset.
#2: Download and odin flash the official stock N900T Kitkat 4.4.2 NF1 firmware
from http://SamMobile.com or other trusted source. (it will not trip the knox)
#3: Use Towelroot to root the phone.
As you most likely know already you will not be able to flash any custom
recovery like twrp or cwm if you don't want to trip the knox flag which
means that you will not be able to flash any custom roms either.
Good luck!
Towelroot does not work on NF1.
Dam Phone
grose65 said:
Towelroot does not work on NF1.
Dam Phone
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Really? So is there no way to root a 4.4.2 stock T-Mobile ROM WITHOUT tripping KNOX?
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lanwarrior said:
Really? So is there no way to root a 4.4.2 stock T-Mobile ROM WITHOUT tripping KNOX?
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Yes, follow the guide I posted, I did make an error about NF1,
however you can download the N900T NE6 4.4.2 firmware from
http://SamMobile.com or other trusted source, then you can use
Towelroot successfully without tripping the knox counter.
Good luck,
Misterjunky said:
Yes, follow the guide I posted, I did make an error about NF1,
however you can download the N900T NE6 4.4.2 firmware from
http://SamMobile.com or other trusted source, then you can use
Towelroot successfully without tripping the knox counter.
Good luck,
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Thanks, Misterjunky! I'll do the upgrade and will update this thread.
grose65 said:
Towelroot does not work on NF1.
Dam Phone
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Misterjunky said:
Yes, follow the guide I posted, I did make an error about NF1,
however you can download the N900T NE6 4.4.2 firmware from
http://SamMobile.com or other trusted source, then you can use
Towelroot successfully without tripping the knox counter.
Good luck,
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Guys, quick question: once I successfully upgraded to 4.4.2 NE6 and root it with Towelroot, I should be able to upgrade to NF1 and root it with MobileOdin Pro following this method, right?
Link 1: http://www.andromods.com/root-unlock/knox-safe-tmobile-galaxy-note-3-nf1-rooted-volte.html
1. Extract the NF1 firmware, then copy the ‘tar.md5′ to your sd card.
2. Run the Mobile ODIN Pro and scroll down to ‘Open file…’.
3. Here’s some options you should enable prior to flashing, ‘inject root’, ‘mobile odin boxes’ and ‘reboot to download mode after flashing’.
4. Once flashing completes and your phone boot into download mode, connect it to your computer.
5. Now run Odin3 desktop version, we use v.3.09 with only the reboot and update bootloader boxes are ticked.
6. In order to make the VoLTE working, you need to reflash the CSC file from NF1 firmware.
Link 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53574142
You'll want to flash the full firmware through mobile odin pro, tick the inject root and mobile odin boxes, and select reboot to download mode after flashing. Once in download mode, flash the bootloader with regular desktop odin 3.09 with only the reboot and update bootloader boxes checked. No guarantees, but that SHOULD retain knox 0x0 and root.
EDIT: Forgot to ask: how do flash the CSC file? Just select "CSC" from Odin and point to the NF1 firmware?
Quick update: upgraded to NE6 via Odin, run TowelRoot, success! KNOX 0x0! No need to unroot first.
I "chickened" out on upgrading to NF1 with CSC install, though. Seems that there maybe some problem in the long run if I upgrade following my post above. So I'll wait for now.
Tried downgrading too NE6 and Odin says no memory and failed.
Dam Phone
Confused about rooting with T999UVUEOH1
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If the phone is running a stock 4.3 Samsung ROM, the phone will have knox. Best thing to do would be to run OTA updates until the phone is running the latest ROM. This will ensure that the phone has the most recent bootloader and modem.
Once updated, you can easily root the phone by flash TWRP for the d2tmo via Odin. After installing TWRP, you can flash supersu 2.45 or 2.46 via TWRP and have root access.
Note that flashing TWRP will trip the knox counter.
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The method I recommended should not cause any loss of data. To be safe, always backup before flashing anything.
Is there any warranty left on the phone? If not, tripping knox isn't going to matter.
Any attempts to downgrade the bootloader may result in a bricked phone.
Looks like the root66 method involves flashing a prerooted stock ROM. If you want to try the root66 method, just make sure the root66 ROM's bootloader and modem are the same or newer than the phone's version. If the phone has oh1, I would not use the root66 method.
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Flashing TWRP and supersu from TWRP is the easiest in my opinion.
Just make sure to get the tar version of TWRP to flash in Odin.
audit13 said:
Flashing TWRP and supersu from TWRP is the easiest in my opinion.
Just make sure to get the tar version of TWRP to flash in Odin.
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Nahh!! The easiest way is use TowelRoot
Only need to press a button! I'm using that firmware so I CONFIRM that it's working
I guess it depends on the rom. It wouldn't work on stock 4.4.2 for me.
The kernel was patched against Towelroot in 4.4.2. We were never updated past 4.3 so it should work fine.
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