Hi..sorry if this has been answered, but I don't see it on t-mobile.
I am planning to root my phone to run the regionlock (hopefully unlock sim). Getting confused with all the different methods available.
I don't want to trip Knox..was planning to use RDLV, but then read something about Kingo, but that wasn't listed as a method for rooting on the FAQ?
So what's the difference? Is one better than other? I also read that any installation of ROMs will trigger the knox? So if I rooted, how can I get to the newest firmware? Just unroot and update OTA?
If you are 4.3 you can root without tripping knox. I used RDLV I felt is was safer. XDA removed Kingo, it may not be safe. I know many have used it and are a big fan of Kingo. I did not like idea of some third party rooting my phone, they can do anything they choose to do. That is just my personal choice.
If you are 4.4.2 Kitkat, the rooting method available will trip Knox.
OTA, will not work automatically. You will need to use Odin. There are threads on how to all the above.
I am stock rooted 4.3, I have not jump on the Kitkat wagon yet. There are mixed reviews on moving to Kitkat.
Good luck and enjoy!
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smaisonville said:
If you are 4.3 you can root without tripping knox. I used RDLV I felt is was safer. XDA removed Kingo, it may not be safe. I know many have used it and are a big fan of Kingo. I did not like idea of some third party rooting my phone, they can do anything they choose to do. That is just my personal choice.
If you are 4.4.2 Kitkat, the rooting method available will trip Knox.
OTA, will not work automatically. You will need to use Odin. There are threads on how to all the above.
I am stock rooted 4.3, I have not jump on the Kitkat wagon yet. There are mixed reviews on moving to Kitkat.
Good luck and enjoy!
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Thanks. if I stay rooted but want to move up to Kitkat but not use custom ROM, can I flash the offical firmware? And would that trigger KNOX? I read any flashing ROM will trigger it too? This is much more complicated...did this stuff a few years ago with HTC...now there's so much more stuff to consider
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Thanks. if I stay rooted but want to move up to Kitkat but not use custom ROM, can I flash the offical firmware? And would that trigger KNOX? I read any flashing ROM will trigger it too? This is much more complicated...did this stuff a few years ago with HTC...now there's so much more stuff to consider
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i think you can flash to 4.4.2 (KitKat) using odin mobile pro without triggering knox, at least that's what i've read on here that others have done successfully. if you want to upgrade you'll need to upgrade your bootloader too. keep in mind that once you do this, you can't revert or downgrade back to jellybean 4.3 or downgrade the bootloader (knox requires a signed bootloader to go with a signed official ROM, apparently).
personally if i were you i'd stay on jellybean 4.3 and use the root de la vega method. i'm a bit miffed mine came with 4.4.2 already on it.
i miss how easy it all was back on HTC too could root, flash recovery, ROM, kernel, and return to factory settings like new. *sigh*
eudemonics said:
i think you can flash to 4.4.2 (KitKat) using odin mobile pro without triggering knox, at least that's what i've read on here that others have done successfully. if you want to upgrade you'll need to upgrade your bootloader too. keep in mind that once you do this, you can't revert or downgrade back to jellybean 4.3 or downgrade the bootloader (knox requires a signed bootloader to go with a signed official ROM, apparently).
personally if i were you i'd stay on jellybean 4.3 and use the root de la vega method. i'm a bit miffed mine came with 4.4.2 already on it.
i miss how easy it all was back on HTC too could root, flash recovery, ROM, kernel, and return to factory settings like new. *sigh*
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Do you mean flashing 4.4.2 official rom which will become unroot again right? How about going to 4.4.2 and stay root with stock type ROM..not customized?
newr said:
Do you mean flashing 4.4.2 official rom which will become unroot again right? How about going to 4.4.2 and stay root with stock type ROM..not customized?
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if you go the mobile odin pro route, it should root it again for you if it gets unrooted
you can get the steps on how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root with knox 0x0 using mobile odin pro on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412&page=2
eudemonics said:
if you go the mobile odin pro route, it should root it again for you if it gets unrooted
you can get the steps on how to upgrade to 4.4.2 and keep root with knox 0x0 using mobile odin pro on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412&page=2
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I saw in that thread, he spent $4 for odin pro?
Related
Where do I go to flash the new 4.4.2 bootloader and baseband
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677252
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How do I flash with mobile odin
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Can I ask...
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
MoodSwinger said:
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
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Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
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Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
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This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I want to know that too.
mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
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So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
rlichtefeld said:
You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
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It won't remove the Knox flag although they MAY not check it or they MAY when I did my warrenty return they did not but that doesn't mean it will always be the case
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hella356 said:
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
Thanks, makomek. I've been wondering about that, but haven't really found much info beyond the Knox implications. I have gotten an improvement in general phone call stability and download speed with the NB4 modem. Is what your're talking about related to the NON-HLOS.bin being installed? As I recall, that was to improve LTE, but I apparently it's actually related to WiFi. Or could be both? At least it's good to hear there are positive reasons to update the bootloader. Any idea if doing this would lock me into only using KitKat ROMs/kernels, or would 4.2/4.3 still work? Your input is much appreciated.
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
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PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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If your girlfriend's phone is stock, unrooted, and she took the OTA, the easiest way to get rid of lag is to factory reset. If she doesn't care about being rooted and just wants the stock rom, this is the easiest way to improve performance. Just start over. OTAs, in my opinion, are like a dirty flash.
So. My phone decided to download the new kitkat update that I DID NOT want. Now I have to postpone the update every 24 hours. My questions are 1. Is there anyway to remove the file? (doubt it) 2. Will it update automatically after 24 hours? My phone is not rooted but would be willing to void Knox warranty to avoid this update. Could always drop the phone off of one of their towers I work on and make it unbootable.
Ahhhhhhh
Oh no! Now I'm being told I won't be able to postpone the update after a while!!!!! Someone please help I don't want this update!!!!
wackemce7 said:
Oh no! Now I'm being told I won't be able to postpone the update after a while!!!!! Someone please help I don't want this update!!!!
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Since you have not updated yet, you can root without tripping Knox. Then once you are rooted, go through the existing 4.4.2 update thread and follow it. (post 873) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51254809&postcount=873
Later if you want, you can retain root and update to 4.4.
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Since you have not updated yet, you can root without tripping Knox. Then once you are rooted, go through the existing 4.4.2 update thread and follow it. (post 873) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51254809&postcount=873
Later if you want, you can retain root and update to 4.4.
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Excellent. Could you perhaps link a decent guide on how to perform this root?
I've searched around for a non Knox tripping guide and found a few, but suggestions would be appreciated.
This is the method I used. Very easy and have had no issues on both my phones that I did it on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2616192
wackemce7 said:
Excellent. Could you perhaps link a decent guide on how to perform this root?
I've searched around for a non Knox tripping guide and found a few, but suggestions would be appreciated.
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You can use Root de la Vega or Kingo Method to root without tripping Knox. Lots of threads on de la Vega here, use any one. Or its just easier to download kingo app from their website and follow instructions.
rahulisola said:
You can use Root de la Vega or Kingo Method to root without tripping Knox. Lots of threads on de la Vega here, use any one. Or its just easier to download kingo app from their website and follow instructions.
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Wooooo!!! Use the kingo software and it rooted successfully without tripping Knox and froze the update no more ****ty kitkat. We could close this one up if need be.
wackemce7 said:
Wooooo!!! Use the kingo software and it rooted successfully without tripping Knox and froze the update no more ****ty kitkat. We could close this one up if need be.
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I'm still a little worried about Kingo .. or any autoroot that passes along IMEI to servers.
So I'd go with root de la vega.
please help.
Hello, I have a question. I'm still on jelly bean rooted, with stock rom and stock recovery. How is the best way to update to kit kat? I want to stay rooted with stock rom and recoveries. Also how do I flash the update with stock recovery?
rtoodeetwo said:
Hello, I have a question. I'm still on jelly bean rooted, with stock rom and stock recovery. How is the best way to update to kit kat? I want to stay rooted with stock rom and recoveries. Also how do I flash the update with stock recovery?
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Download the official kk version from sammobile.com and flash it using Odin. It will remove root, so you will have to root your phone again, which should be no big deal.
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I got a new Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320) on Friday. $249 at Best Buy finally pushed me over the edge (yay!).
The current build that is on it is T320UEU1ANAI.
It has an OTA update available that it wants to install, but, of course, it doesn't tell me what the new build is. I have been clicking on Later, so far.
I expect that I will want to use TowelRoot to root this without tripping Knox, and I'll want to install at least a custom recovery and some Xposed modules. I may want to try a custom ROM in the future, and I understand that that will trip Knox no matter what. But, from what I read, as long as I use TowelRoot and just root and install a recovery, I won't trip Knox.
Is all that correct?
If I let this pending OTA go ahead and install, will I still be able to use TowelRoot and install a custom recovery without tripping Knox?
TIA!
stuartv said:
I got a new Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 (SM-T320) on Friday. $249 at Best Buy finally pushed me over the edge (yay!).
The current build that is on it is T320UEU1ANAI.
It has an OTA update available that it wants to install, but, of course, it doesn't tell me what the new build is. I have been clicking on Later, so far.
I expect that I will want to use TowelRoot to root this without tripping Knox, and I'll want to install at least a custom recovery and some Xposed modules. I may want to try a custom ROM in the future, and I understand that that will trip Knox no matter what. But, from what I read, as long as I use TowelRoot and just root and install a recovery, I won't trip Knox.
Is all that correct?
If I let this pending OTA go ahead and install, will I still be able to use TowelRoot and install a custom recovery without tripping Knox?
TIA!
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Installing a custom recovery will trip knox.
Thanks, crpalmer. I read that TowelRoot doesn't trip it, but I was definitely still uncertain about installing a recovery and tripping Knox. Good to know.
So, anyway, if I take this OTA, will I still be able to root and install a custom recovery if I want? I've rooted and ROMed other devices in the past. But, I have a Verizon S4 and I already got burned with it by taking an OTA without researching thoroughly first. Now, my S4 is totally locked down and looks like it'll never be cracked. I definitely want to avoid that happening with this GTP.
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Thanks, crpalmer. I read that TowelRoot doesn't trip it, but I was definitely still uncertain about installing a recovery and tripping Knox. Good to know.
So, anyway, if I take this OTA, will I still be able to root and install a custom recovery if I want? I've rooted and ROMed other devices in the past. But, I have a Verizon S4 and I already got burned with it by taking an OTA without researching thoroughly first. Now, my S4 is totally locked down and looks like it'll never be cracked. I definitely want to avoid that happening with this GTP.
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Yes, let it update. Towelroot works with the update perfectly and than you can do twrp or just have root access and keep Knox intact if you need it for some reason.
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stuartv said:
Thanks, crpalmer. I read that TowelRoot doesn't trip it, but I was definitely still uncertain about installing a recovery and tripping Knox. Good to know.
So, anyway, if I take this OTA, will I still be able to root and install a custom recovery if I want? I've rooted and ROMed other devices in the past. But, I have a Verizon S4 and I already got burned with it by taking an OTA without researching thoroughly first. Now, my S4 is totally locked down and looks like it'll never be cracked. I definitely want to avoid that happening with this GTP.
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I used towel root on a newer version as mine was already on the latest.
My future plans are much like yours. Stock rooted for a while, then custom recovery and roms.
Cheers,
Rich
rholm said:
I used towel root on a newer version as mine was already on the latest.
My future plans are much like yours. Stock rooted for a while, then custom recovery and roms.
Cheers,
Rich
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Hi I just bought the Tab Pro from BestBuy. Is towelroot enough to root AND not to trip knox? Or do we have to flash the kernel from this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786800
metaldood said:
Hi I just bought the Tab Pro from BestBuy. Is towelroot enough to root AND not to trip knox? Or do we have to flash the kernel from this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786800
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That's all I needed on the latest US rom. No kernel update needed.
Cheers,
Rich
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That's all I needed on the latest US rom.
Cheers,
Rich
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Towelroot worked on latest firmware.
However it did not work on the previous firmware. Tablet rebooted everytime.
Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
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Hi guys, I just got a galaxy s4 for t mobile and it came with 4.2.2 version of android. I'm scared to brick the phone but I really want to root it. Can someone point me to the right direction? Been reading some tutorials but they are for different versions of android. How do I root my phone without bricking it or tripping Knox?
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4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
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4.2.2 doesnt have Knox. Use CF-Auto Root by Chainfire to root.
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Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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I don't know if towelroot will root 4.2.2, but it doesn't install a recovery.
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itsfredo said:
Thanks! Now it seems that cf auto root comes with a stock kernel and recovery. Is this changeable? Can I install a custom recovery and kernel after using cf auto root? Or should I find a different method of rooting for this? Are there any safe ones out there. It seems that a lot is outdated and I'm afraid of installing the wrong thing.
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You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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You're calling a rooting method outdated while using the exact "outdated" software it was meant to root in the first place. CF-autoroot is as safe as safe can be. In fact, I know it still works for 4.3 and I THINK 4.4.2; it just trips the KNOX counter on them... still gets the job done though.
As far as your concern of installing the recovery; it first flashes its own recovery so it can use an exploit, then reverts it back to stock. I believe the kernel is untouched.
If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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This.
You really don't need CF Auto Root at all until all you want to do is root the stock rom.
If you want to install a customer rom, use Odin to install a custom recovery and flash whatever you want from there.
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If your end goal is to move on to custom recoveries and custom ROMs you can bypass the rooting process altogether and go straight for the recovery/ROM.
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That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
Use cf autoroot and flash clockworkmod through Odin. Download rommanager. Download a rom. Hit install rom from SD card. Pick your ROM from downloads.
itsfredo said:
That's precisely my end goal. And I guess my question is how to do this safely with the Android version I have.
I didn't mean the root method was outdated; I was talking about some of the information that's on the general forum regarding root. There is even a post on one of the stickies asking for updated info in May. This scares me because for all I know I can follow one of these methods to root or install a custom recovery/rom and end up with a brick because something is no longer compatible.
I guess my question is: what is the best (updated) method of installing a custom rom/recovery for my tmobile s4 with android 4.2.2?
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I understand your apprehension, i really do. What I've said to do has worked for me when i got the phone over a year ago, and has worked here recently when i did it again. I'm trying to tell you there is no need for an updated way of doing what you want. If you want root, use CFauto root. Like i said, that method was done specifically for MDB and MDL firmwares, there is no better choice. Newer yeah, but better? Not a chance. Your firmware is equally outdated and it's worked for millions of users without fail.
As far as a custom ROM goes, find one you want to use, put it on your SD card, pick a recovery (CWM, Philz, or TWRP), flash that in Odin, boot to recovery (power+volume up) , do a full wipe (system, data, and cache) select the ROM, and flash. No need to root at all if you want to go straight to a custom ROM.
EDIT: Obviously, you might want to perform a nandroid backup once you flash your recovery... but that's really optional as long as you have the stock Odin-flashable firmware. Totally up to you.
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I've been waiting for months for an official samsung kitkat update for my phone. (i9195L). Today I checked on sammobile and saw that the update has arrived, for Trinidad and Tobago.
Now that it has been released, I want to know if I can flash it over my Carbon Rom, which has Android 4.4.4.
I want to know if I can go back to stock and flash this new firmware with kitkat on my device via Odin, or if I will have any problem considering I'm actually downgrading to 4.4.2.
Thanks in advance.
rolo143 said:
I've been waiting for months for an official samsung kitkat update for my phone. (i9195L). Today I checked on sammobile and saw that the update has arrived, for Trinidad and Tobago.
Now that it has been released, I want to know if I can flash it over my Carbon Rom, which has Android 4.4.4.
I want to know if I can go back to stock and flash this new firmware with kitkat on my device via Odin, or if I will have any problem considering I'm actually downgrading to 4.4.2.
Thanks in advance.
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Good rule of thumb with OTAs. Don't perform then on a custom rom. I would use Odin to report to stock. Then see if you can get the update via OTA. However keep in mind that the newer update may not have a root method so if that is important to you, check into that. And always back up in recovery! Flashing back to stock should not harm you device.
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U won`t really downgrade But take into consideration this :
Do u have Knox bootloader active ? 0x0 or 0x1 in download mode ? Once u flash KitKat u can`t downgrade to samsung jellybean. U can flash aosp again if stock samsung won`t fit u . If u don`t have Knox bootloader i woyld flash an older firmware that does not contain Knox, 2 3 times in a row until u bring your phone to Official not custom and after that flash samsung kitkat. That way u will sure have knox not triggered, all flashed good modem and so and no problems. I think i write too much and u won`t understand a thing ( i`m bad at explaining stuff )
SilviuMik said:
U won`t really downgrade But take into consideration this :
Do u have Knox bootloader active ? 0x0 or 0x1 in download mode ? Once u flash KitKat u can`t downgrade to samsung jellybean. U can flash aosp again if stock samsung won`t fit u . If u don`t have Knox bootloader i woyld flash an older firmware that does not contain Knox, 2 3 times in a row until u bring your phone to Official not custom and after that flash samsung kitkat. That way u will sure have knox not triggered, all flashed good modem and so and no problems. I think i write too much and u won`t understand a thing ( i`m bad at explaining stuff )
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Yes, you write too much, lol. But I get your point. Thanks for the reply.
I have Knox set to 0x1 so I guess it's activated, but I don't have any plan going back to jelly bean. i will stay with kitkat.
Besides I think there's already a way to root stock with kitkat via Towel root, so I guess it's a lot of help.
rolo143 said:
Yes, you write too much, lol. But I get your point. Thanks for the reply.
I have Knox set to 0x1 so I guess it's activated, but I don't have any plan going back to jelly bean. i will stay with kitkat.
Besides I think there's already a way to root stock with kitkat via Towel root, so I guess it's a lot of help.
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Towelroot works only on roms made before july i think. Older won`t work
SilviuMik said:
Towelroot works only on roms made before july i think. Older won`t work
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I don't completely agree. Towelroot worked on stock 4.4.2 for me fresh after an Odin restore. I believe it doesnt work on HTC phones and something else. Don't hold me to that I could be wrong. But Towelroot should work great for the OP
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I'm currently on DU Rom, if I want to test offical Kitkat I have to flash it with odin? And if I want to go back to DU how can I do it? With a backup?
Flatric said:
I'm currently on DU Rom, if I want to test offical Kitkat I have to flash it with odin? And if I want to go back to DU how can I do it? With a backup?
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Yes if you stock kit kat without root and such you will need to use odin. Using odin will give you a complete stock. Recovery, kernel, etc. Meaning you won't have a custom recovery to restore a back up. Back up your current setup using your custom recovery and keep the back up on your external storage. If you choose to go back if stock doesn't work for you, you may be able to restore the back up once you re-root and install the custom recovery, but it may cause some errors. I'm not 100% sure that the restore will work or not. My suggestion is to find a stock rom that is only rooted and not modded. Less hassle that way. And much easier to go back to your current rom if you don't want the stock rom.
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One question: If I already installed this firmware (kitkat) How can I root it? Towelroot? I don't want to trigger Knox, I want to Root it workout having to enable Knox and put that message with yellow letters..
Edit: I rooted it by installing recovery and flashing the rootkit. So far so good.