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hey all.
Had my desire since first came out in march, not really thought about rooting till now with froyo.
So basically im scared to root due to the number of usb bricking, yet i want to root to get froyo, but with release date of June hanging around i question whether to just wait.
So be nice for a list of pros and cons of rooting, for me, and probably the other number of people who are in the same situation as me.
thanks
Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
Yer think i will have to root, new update has just confirmed, waiting for htc, then t-mobile will just annoy me!
To do with warrenty, i have insurance so if my phone breaks, i can just claim on that anyway? pay little excess and sorted surely??
socktug said:
Well the usb bricking issues can be fixed now so that is no longer a problem.
Pros for rooting:
1.You can customise the handset till your heart is content. This includes removing sense if you don't like it, or even removing system apps that you hate. Friend stream, peep, and stocks spring to mind!
2. You will most probably get the latest firmware before the official updates are rolled out by HTC.
3. You can use apps that need root like setcpu, and titanium backup.
4. Froyo test roms are available and work extremely well with a few minor niggles/bugs.
Cons:
You invalidate your warranty.
I'm really only touching the surface with this list. If you are confident in rooting then I can see no reason to hold back!
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i'm not sure if its true but my friend said that even if you root your phone htc will still replace the phone for you if anything happens.
can anyone confirm this is true? or heard anything similar to this situation?
even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
sruon said:
even if you root it, you can always return to a proper stock ROM and they won't notice anything, there isn't anything on the Desire that screams "I'VE BEEN ROOTED/UNLOCKED" like the N1.
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Not necessarily true. If you root and then your phone subsequently dies, you may not be able to flash a stock ROM back again.
However, anecdotal evidence suggests that HTC don't bother to actually try to diagnose a fault in a phone, and just replace the mainboard as a matter of course.
Regards,
Dave
Im tempted to root but I've read so many horror stories surrounding bricked Desires.
What recovery is there for USB bricked Desires now? Links?
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
personally I dont think they'll be to bothered if you have taken the effort to send it to them, the Orange repair centre probably even has the capability to flash the Orange ROM to it anyway. Also if its a hardware fault then they dont need to touch the software really.
Of course this is just my opinion, not fact but in this life you have to be bold to succeed and also be prepared to accept failure. @ronaldo, if you send it to HTC, Orange aren't gonna give a **** are they lol
How long does it take to root? Looked at some guides doesnt seem to take too long.
might go for it when i have a whole day spare to play with it etc...
after all, htc said when they now details about rooting, they would release a schedule, as nothing has been released yet, think it might be a while untill it comes officially.
I bricked my Orange Hero when putting a new ROM on it and they did a nxt day exchange, obv I didn't say id rooted it, just said it wouldnt switch on after rooting. Not sure they do the whole repair centre thing anymore
What are the chances to brick my desire. If i brick it is there any fix.
I am asking because I promised to my wife that this will be the last phone that I will buy. I am one step away from rooting it.
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
Phil750123 said:
I believe there is a fix for bricking it now???
Not 100% sure though
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There is indeed. If you do manage to brick it, you just need to follow some simple instructions in the dev forums to bring it back.
do you need to have your phone rooted to update your radio? :s
ronaldo9_r9 said:
Guys i am orange uk contract and have insurance on hc desire. I have rooted desire and is working fine. lets say anything goes wrong with it. do i send to orange or htc for repair. what if i send it to htc for repair won't orange say why didn't you send it to us?. I am paying £6 per month on insurance. what do i do will orange repiar the phone even though its rooted or will they say you have broke the term of insurance?
There is no uk orange stock rom so i can revert back to. Will i be screwed if anything goes wrong?
I didn't even release how many questions i have asked in this forum. Please pardon my english.
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I pay for insurance too. I had to send my Touch HD back 8 TIMES, YES EIGHT! I had it flashed, they never said nething... If you're worried as you pay for insurance, if it goes wrong u've lost it haven't you... Nothing to send back, plus nice new battery
Exactly. Software isn't a problem for them, so off the record they can just plug it in and reflash it with whatever firmware they want too. If we can do it, they can do it more
Just gotta be bold (and lie a little).
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
step too far
diggedy said:
Just a thought on the whole insurance thing, perhaps you could tell them you lost the phone if your worried it wont be repaired. excess is usually the same or just a little bit more. (edit: just notice gunja said the same thing, great minds think alike )
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not telling them you've flashed it and sending it back to HTC to reflash it back is one thing, but pretending you've lost it and claiming on your insurance is a bit cheeky. Not to mention definitely illegal...
He he I get the hint. I went to Orange shop asked them i want unlock code for my Orange HTC desire. That guy said if you do that it will void guarantee. Is he right? I want to unlock on all network. Does that really void it?
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Hi everybody,
since September 2012 i own a Xperia S. At the beginning it actually worked very well but now its a complete catastrophy. The phone is extremely slow even without any apps, sometimes it just crashes and i have to force a reboot, the walkman app just freezes a few seconds and the music doesnt play in that time, the homescreen with both new and old xperia home is extremely slow and some apps just wont open even after the third click on them and only work if i restart my phone. A few little bugs are ok but when i buy a phone for 400€ i think it should at least work fluently. I meant it was Sony's flagship for Gods sake. The back cover is etremelyscratched and is not matte anymore EVEN THOUGH i used cases from the begining. The S would be such a nice device IF everything would work. I contacted Amazon(where i bought it) earlier and they said they could try to repair it. do you think that could actually help? In addition i must say my phone was rooted and even with custom Roms like xzx it was really slo. I repaired it already using the PC Companion, SUS and even by whiping everything and reflashing the STock firmware, still nothing. What do you think i can/should do? as im still a student i really dont have a lot of money but paying 400€ for that phone and then not being able tu use ist normally is just horrbile.
I would really appreciate your help:
PS: Selling would of course be an option but i would only get 250€ and thats not really a lot and enough to buy a nother Smartphone,,,
Radixtrator said:
Hi everybody,
since September 2012 i own a Xperia S. At the beginning it actually worked very well but now its a complete catastrophy. The phone is extremely slow even without any apps, sometimes it just crashes and i have to force a reboot, the walkman app just freezes a few seconds and the music doesnt play in that time, the homescreen with both new and old xperia home is extremely slow and some apps just wont open even after the third click on them and only work if i restart my phone. A few little bugs are ok but when i buy a phone for 400€ i think it should at least work fluently. I meant it was Sony's flagship for Gods sake. The back cover is etremelyscratched and is not matte anymore EVEN THOUGH i used cases from the begining. The S would be such a nice device IF everything would work. I contacted Amazon(where i bought it) earlier and they said they could try to repair it. do you think that could actually help? In addition i must say my phone was rooted and even with custom Roms like xzx it was really slo. I repaired it already using the PC Companion, SUS and even by whiping everything and reflashing the STock firmware, still nothing. What do you think i can/should do? as im still a student i really dont have a lot of money but paying 400€ for that phone and then not being able tu use ist normally is just horrbile.
I would really appreciate your help:
PS: Selling would of course be an option but i would only get 250€ and thats not really a lot and enough to buy a nother Smartphone,,,
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That's definitely not normal. You probably have a faulty unit.
AW: [Q] [XS] Slugishness problems and major problems
You think? Do you think it would change amything if i send it in?
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You think? Do you think it would change amything if i send it in?
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Usually, a fresh repair will solve all those slowness. But you said that after tons of repairs, the phone is still sluggish. It is definitely not normal. Best solution is to send it in for warranty or demand for a replacement unit. Best of luck.
i really hope that will work.. else im just going to sell it and buy a nexus
Post questions in Q/A from next time please. Not in General.
And yes it looks like u have faulty unit. Cause XS is not that sluggish as you are experiencing it.
ok sry didnt see that i will do so from nowon yes amazon is looking at the problem and will tell me tomorrow if i can send it in
So after having my Xperia S for the last 2 years decided enough was enough with the WiFi problem GUESS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GO TO SELL IT. The ****ing WiFi decided to work and continues to stay on. Starts to work with no reason after the amount of BS and problems I have had over the last 2 to 3 months trying many custom roms kernels and stock roms nothing working then all of a sudden bam it works when selling.
Phone must have a mind of its own saying ill work ill work don't sell me DONT SELL lol. I managed to get £140.00 exchange towards the z1 compact anyone think that was worth it?? £140 on exchange for the Xperia S 32Gig version. The Xperia z1 compact was £225 cash price with trade in paid £85 total 2nd. Also comes with 1 years guarantee with it and wasn't expecting any guarantee with a 2nd hand phone but cant grumble you don't get that on E of the Bay lol
Now comes my questions.
1 Can you change the glass on front without having to change touch screen or is this part of it? Not that I need it now but if brake in future I know.
2 Can you change the Back cover. Could do with changing as scratched to the max.
3 Can you buy the sides or full housing for the phone?
4 Can this phone be unlocked with software free. Or is it a matter of off to an unlock site and buy credit to do so or take down to local market?
5 How easy is it to unlock bootloader and root phone. Are they any versions to lookout for as I had in past with some phones had problems unlocking bootloader and had to remain on locked.. Is it just a matter of grabbing flashtool and unlocking or is their more to it with much newer handsets now?
Now on to the earphone jack and speaker at bottom of phone. The phone does say it is water proof however I do not see how it is when speaker and also earphone jack are not covered by any protective covers. Does this have some sort of seal within it to make water proof?
Thanks in advance.
mentalghost said:
So after having my Xperia S for the last 2 years decided enough was enough with the WiFi problem GUESS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I GO TO SELL IT. The ****ing WiFi decided to work and continues to stay on. Starts to work with no reason after the amount of BS and problems I have had over the last 2 to 3 months trying many custom roms kernels and stock roms nothing working then all of a sudden bam it works when selling.
Phone must have a mind of its own saying ill work ill work don't sell me DONT SELL lol. I managed to get £140.00 exchange towards the z1 compact anyone think that was worth it?? £140 on exchange for the Xperia S 32Gig version. The Xperia z1 compact was £225 cash price with trade in paid £85 total 2nd. Also comes with 1 years guarantee with it and wasn't expecting any guarantee with a 2nd hand phone but cant grumble you don't get that on E of the Bay lol
Now comes my questions.
1 Can you change the glass on front without having to change touch screen or is this part of it? Not that I need it now but if brake in future I know.
2 Can you change the Back cover. Could do with changing as scratched to the max.
3 Can you buy the sides or full housing for the phone?
4 Can this phone be unlocked with software free. Or is it a matter of off to an unlock site and buy credit to do so or take down to local market?
5 How easy is it to unlock bootloader and root phone. Are they any versions to lookout for as I had in past with some phones had problems unlocking bootloader and had to remain on locked.. Is it just a matter of grabbing flashtool and unlocking or is their more to it with much newer handsets now?
Now on to the earphone jack and speaker at bottom of phone. The phone does say it is water proof however I do not see how it is when speaker and also earphone jack are not covered by any protective covers. Does this have some sort of seal within it to make water proof?
Thanks in advance.
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I can answer 2, 4, and 5 for you.
2 - Yes, you can change the back cover. Lots of users are doing it currently. Can check out the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710603
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4 - Phone is already unlocked for any SIM so don't worry about that
5 - Sony provides instructions directly on their website for unlocking the bootloader. Rooting is really simple as like most devices, you just flash SuperSU.
If you don't want to unlock the bootloader but root your phone, it can take some extra work.
Waterproof - The headphone jack is internally sealed and the speaker grill has a membrane.
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hol17 said:
4 - Phone is already unlocked for any SIM so don't worry about that
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How would you know that his is unlocked?
hol17 said:
5 - Sony provides instructions directly on their website for unlocking the bootloader. Rooting is really simple as like most devices, you just flash SuperSU.
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Might be good to mention to @mentalghost that in order to restore the phone to a completely factory state further down the line you'll need a backup of your TA partition. There are guides explaining how to do that here on xda.
Rekoil said:
How would you know that his is unlocked?
Might be good to mention to @mentalghost that in order to restore the phone to a completely factory state further down the line you'll need a backup of your TA partition. There are guides explaining how to do that here on xda.
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I haven't found a single locked Z1C online and no one has reported one being locked. If it is, just a local store or an online site.
As for the TA keys, guide is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
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thx guys however my phone is locked to o2 and also checked status on phone that bootloader lock status is NO. Is their a way around this?
No
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mentalghost said:
thx guys however my phone is locked to o2 and also checked status on phone that bootloader lock status is NO. Is their a way around this?
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No, you will most likely never ever be able to unlock that phone. The only possibility is if O2 has some kind of code they can give you to unlock the device (not sure if this is possible). Otherwise I would suggest returning it and buying one from Clove or CarPhoneWarehouse or something, as theirs are neither locked nor bootloader unlock disallowed.
I recently obtained a Samsung Rugby Smart, my father upgraded to a new phone and I received his old Rugby, the Rugby is less than a year old and still covered under warranty. This is the first Smartphone I've owned, though I have experience with the Google Nexus 7 so I'm not completely out of the loop on how the devices works.
About a week or a little more after I got the phone and got it set up and rooted the auto-rotate function stopped working, the phone is permanently stuck in landscape regardless of whether or not auto-rotate is toggled. I've read through several threads, removed battery while the phone is on, performed a factory reset three times now, etc, and while I have downloaded an app that allows me to change the rotation I do not consider that to be a fix to the problem. I've been in contact with the manufacturer and the next time I call them I will be approved to send the phone in to be repaired or replaced. I would, however, prefer not to do that and am hoping that someone here might have different suggestions.
That said, if i do need to send it in to be replaced, I obviously need to remove root before I do that. I've been looking at the Kingo Root Android app so far this morning, but it doesn't seem to support my Rugby, what are the suggestions for the safest method of removing root from the phone? I've been reading around the forums but would like a second opinion.
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I recently obtained a Samsung Rugby Smart, my father upgraded to a new phone and I received his old Rugby, the Rugby is less than a year old and still covered under warranty. This is the first Smartphone I've owned, though I have experience with the Google Nexus 7 so I'm not completely out of the loop on how the devices works.
About a week or a little more after I got the phone and got it set up and rooted the auto-rotate function stopped working, the phone is permanently stuck in landscape regardless of whether or not auto-rotate is toggled. I've read through several threads, removed battery while the phone is on, performed a factory reset three times now, etc, and while I have downloaded an app that allows me to change the rotation I do not consider that to be a fix to the problem. I've been in contact with the manufacturer and the next time I call them I will be approved to send the phone in to be repaired or replaced. I would, however, prefer not to do that and am hoping that someone here might have different suggestions.
That said, if i do need to send it in to be replaced, I obviously need to remove root before I do that. I've been looking at the Kingo Root Android app so far this morning, but it doesn't seem to support my Rugby, what are the suggestions for the safest method of removing root from the phone? I've been reading around the forums but would like a second opinion.
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Temp-unroot would help in this situation, I think..
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Temp-unroot would help in this situation, I think..
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That is not something I am familiar with, how does it work?
I'm soon going to get either the Samsung S5, HTC One M8 or Sony Xperia Z2, and one of the first things I want to do is install Cyanogenmod. I recently discovered the Samsung Knox counter and that led me to do a bit of research into what sort of similar security Sony and HTC have. It seems that all of them have some way of permanently tracking an unlocked bootloader and voiding the warrantee, so no way around that. However, I wondered how much it actually mattered, and to what extent each of the companies will repair/replace hardware after unlocking. From what I've read, HTC can be pretty rigid, but Samsung and Sony not so much. Has anyone had any experience with this that could give me some insight?