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**** FIXED - it is a software problem with my tracks. GPS and Bluetooth work great through other GPS apps ****
I have a pair of bluebuds x and Jabra rox headphones and I get serious audio skipping and Bluetooth dropouts when streaming audio in offline mode. It happens at different spots on the same songs, but different again by headphone so I think it is the smartwatch.
Anyone else experiencing this? I took them running with the watch for two 5 mile jogs and it's worse when moving than when standing still. Also seems worse with my tracks watch GPS running without phone.
I did the resets, repairing headsets, etc...
Hopefully it's a firmware fix as they sound fine directly connected to my moto x. Anyone else try this?
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bad news...
My question is about your running session. Did you use any app without the phone to track it? Is Google fit or My Tracks good enough for the GPS thing?, at least to wait for full proper running apps (without the need of the phone).
Using Google tracks without the phone.... Do you have issues too?
Not, just curious. My sw 3 will arrive next week.
king conan said:
Not, just curious. My sw 3 will arrive next week.
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Update...I swapped out my watch for a new one and still the same issue, so it must be the unit. I get Bluetooth drops when playing offline when
- screen goes from active to stanby mode
- When my tracks is running in active mode (works in mute mode), so something between the apps is causing problems
Next test would be different bluetooh headphones.... or just wait for more reports from other users.
I tried three pairs of headphones! Jabr Rox, Bluebuds X and Plantronics.
All the same issue!
gs05 said:
I tried three pairs of headphones! Jabr Rox, Bluebuds X and Plantronics.
All the same issue!
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and 2 watches, right?
So we are now sure the crappy support for bluetooth at the moment. While we wait for future updates, can you try to select the lowest quality for offline playback in Google play music?
Perhaps high bitrate mp3 are not well managed by the watch... Just guessing.
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and 2 watches, right?
So we are now sure the crappy support for bluetooth at the moment. While we wait for future updates, can you try to select the lowest quality for offline playback in Google play music?
Perhaps high bitrate mp3 are not well managed by the watch... Just guessing.
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You cant change the offline bitrate on google music...it is predetermined. Lets hope android wear 2.0 supposed to be ready this week fixes this and much more!
Ok. Let's hope a fix is coming, but I would not think about wear 2.0. Google only said features like gps and music would be the next step and that is already here. The other watches got the update a couple of weeks ago... So I think we're already in "2.0".
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Ok. Let's hope a fix is coming, but I would not think about wear 2.0. Google only said features like gps and music would be the next step and that is already here. The other watches got the update a couple of weeks ago... So I think we're already in "2.0".
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I tried again today, just music, no tracks (no gps) and no skipping. So it must be a joint radio issue for sure
gs05 said:
I tried three pairs of headphones! Jabr Rox, Bluebuds X and Plantronics.
All the same issue!
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I've got the Bluetooth music stuttering too, but only with my tracks (gps) and offline music playing. No problem with offline music play without my tracks. I think too this must be a problem with the Bluetooth and gps combo. Since the main reason I bought the Smartwatch 3 was as a fitness wearable for running. The only thing that sets this device apart is the phone free music with gps, Bluetooth, and wifi radios. I hope they can fix it through a update. Otherwise I won't be keeping it and can't recommend it.
I can report no stuttering with Plantronics Backbeat GO 2 with offline music play. Didn't try it in conjunction with GPS though.
Well ive tried it every which way with the Sony ws-610s and no skipping at all! Not sure what bluetooth they use, ill have a look tomorrow.
I got my SW3 today
I can confirm the stuttering when the screen goes to standby and when you start applications, etc.
I started the gps (from the developer menu) and did not get any stuttering.
I'm thinking that this is more of a software problem (at kernel level) and not a hardware problem so it might be fixed (at least I hope so) with a firmware update.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I'm using the Sony SBH20 bluetooth headset
I guess we should file a bug for this.
I was afraid of getting the skip issue from this thread, however, today was the first day that I was able to try the offline features of the watch. I have no skipping issues at all and that was running both the GPS and the Headset for music with the screen turning off during my run. I am running the new Sony MDR-AS800BT headset. So far this headset is definitely one of the better ones that I have owned for sport use! It does not fall out whatsoever.
I wonder if it has something to do with the Bluetooth version. My headset is BT 3.0. I guess the MDR-AS800BT is BT 4.0 or later.
I keep thinking this is a problem of resources... the kernel is putting the cores in the processor in a economy state that is not powerful enough to encode to the BT headset and simultaniously handle the my tracks app and the GPS flow. Android 4.3 had a bug like that and they did fix it.
Maybe the difference in user experiences depends on whether music is in 128kbps or 320kbps or more. Can anyone with stuttering try with maybe the same song with different mp3 bitrates?
I'm looking to buy this thing, but after my terrible experience with Samsung Gear Fit, I am waiting to see the user experiences and problems.
GPS erratic differences may be as a result of some users not waiting long enough to get decent GPS fix, which takes a while with standalone devices and no network.
I tried the jabra rox, which were bt 4.0 and then bluebuds x which were 2.1 and the rox were actually worse. No Sony headphones to test here in NY at the major retailers.
I think it's software too or perhaps the tracks app is bad with resources
The MDR-AS800BT is bluetooth 3.0, as for the sound quality I was using 320kbps files in my run. No issues whatsoever. Anyone tried lossless files? I wanted to try tidal on the wear for offline playback. I hope they get the walkman soon to use with the wear.
I am interested in using the Smartwatch for running as it has GPS and can play music.
What I would like to know is if you can connect a Bluetooth Heart Rate Monitor to the watch?
Has anybody tested this yet?
Thanks
At the moment that's not possible.
The only app that works without the phone in "offline" mode for sports is My Tracks from Google. So there is no app to use any Hear Rate Monitor.
The big thing, and I hope it's coming soon is new versions of Runtastic/Runkeeper etc with the same offline mode. Then, may be they let us use chest BT heart rate monitors.
We have to wait.
Question: is it possible to connect HR monitor and Smartwatch (so 2 BTLE devices) to the phone at the same time?
Example: go running, have the phone handle GPS and get heart rate data from a Bluetooth chest strap, and show it on the Smartwatch?
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Yes. Perfectly possible. Runtastic would show all the info in the watch.
I really hope they add support for untethered mode with SW3. Their wear app is more flexible and better visually than runkeeper.
king conan said:
Yes. Perfectly possible. Runtastic would show all the info in the watch.
I really hope they add support for untethered mode with SW3. Their wear app is more flexible and better visually than runkeeper.
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Cool! Thanks! Will buy it and use it like that with Endomondo until it will be possible to use a Heart rate strap directly with the watch. Don't really need music.
I see Strava has a Android Wear app. Is it possoble to connect i.e. Zephyr HxM Bluetooth Heart Rate belt to this watch?
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I'm using a Polar H7 Bluetooth Smart HR strap together with this watch. Using ghostracer app. Works pretty well now.
Basch88 said:
Cool! Thanks! Will buy it and use it like that with Endomondo until it will be possible to use a Heart rate strap directly with the watch. Don't really need music.
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I am also hoping that it will be possible to connect a chest worn heart rate monitor directly to the watch... I would be lining up to buy the SW3 if that were the case. But without that feature, what function does the watch serve if you still have to lug your phone around?
Second question, people were talking about off line mode above... Does Google Fit work in the so called off line mode??
Kodiak1 said:
I am also hoping that it will be possible to connect a chest worn heart rate monitor directly to the watch... I would be lining up to buy the SW3 if that were the case. But without that feature, what function does the watch serve if you still have to lug your phone around?
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Guess you gonna have to go buy one then
HR Strap works perfectly with Ghostracer
Basch88 said:
Guess you gonna have to go buy one then
HR Strap works perfectly with Ghostracer
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Ya I saw that... But I'm want to be able to use it with Endomondo or Google Fit to track all sports and activities, not just running and biking. This is a good sign though.
Does the watch track Google Fit activity when not tethered to a phone?
Kodiak1 said:
Ya I saw that... But I'm want to be able to use it with Endomondo or Google Fit to track all sports and activities, not just running and biking. This is a good sign though.
Does the watch track Google Fit activity when not tethered to a phone?
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I only know that it tracks steps... Haven't really tried to go for a run without turning on Ghostracer...
Looks to me though that you are looking more for something like a Polar M400 or V800... Perfect sport watches and the next update will bring smartphone notifications...
andyrtr said:
I'm using a Polar H7 Bluetooth Smart HR strap together with this watch. Using ghostracer app. Works pretty well now.
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I've been trying for a few days to get my Polar H7 to connect with my SW3 and I"ve had no success. If I go to Bluetooth devices in Settings, I see it available and sometimes I can get it to pair. However, I've never been able to get it to connect, it's always stuck at Connecting.... I know the HRM works fine, I use it daily. I tried turning the phone off, resetting the watch but no luck. Is there something that I'm doing wrong?
There's no need to pait Bluetooth LowEnergy (BLE) devices. Enable on the phone in settings/AndroidWear/BetaHeartReate. Then simply start Ghostracer and watch the heart symbol turning from grey to white when it is connected to your heart rate strap. That's all. To monitor your HRM frequency use "customise screens" (you need to buy the full version) and add the HRM from data field "sensors".
How did you managed to get the HxM working with GhostRacer or Endomondo on the watch? I'm not sure I get it...
Do you connect the HxM with the Phone or the Watch?
Do you run the app on the phone or on the watch?
So far I tried connecting with the phone, setting it up with endomondo but I don't get the BPM on the watch (altough I do have it on the phone)
I tried pluging it on the phone directly, but Endomondo still doesn't show it...
I tried opening GhostRacer but I don't even get a pace/GPS reading...
I don't have any options to "enable heartrate monitor" under Wearable neither...
If someone would guide me on this, it would be greatly apreciated!
Thinking about ordering the SmartWatch 3, however the one let down is the lack of heart rate monitor.
Does anyone know if its possible to connect two devices via bluetooth - Headphones and HR band? That way I could leave my phone at home when I go out running.
someone else mentioned using this with the Microsoft band without problem. And I have used each watch I've owned, this one included, along with my car's bt audio at the same time, so I don't see any reason why not. I will have a band myself pretty soon, so I'm hoping I can.
My Motorola hr strap connects along side my Sony ws613 headphones. I dont get heart rate as no apps support it yet but at least they are both connected at once.
Thank you both for your replies.
Guessing its just a case of waiting for an App to come out to view the HR on the watch now.
what about ANT+ protocol?
Theoretically, and off course depending on your headphone set, and HR strap .. you could run the music app via the Bluetooth protocol, to your headphones, and leave the HR monitor running over the ANT+ protocol..
That way you'd leave music playback to the BE alone.
PS : I am also awaiting for that standalone HR function confirmation. That will determine my acquisition of the device. Any news on that front ?
Has anyone tried any ANT+ HR chest-strap..or optic sensor strap?
Afair smart watch 3 does not have ant+ onboard.
jkr284 said:
My Motorola hr strap connects along side my Sony ws613 headphones. I dont get heart rate as no apps support it yet but at least they are both connected at once.
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Would you care to side load a basic android bluetooth hrm app?
I have a Bluetooth HRM Polar iWL (Wearlink+) but I cannot connect it with the watch. I can pair with the 0000 PIN but it says connecting and then disconnected. It does shows up in the Bluetooth unpair list so it seems to be paired..
Does anyone know if this is normal at the moment?
Same here with mio link, sees it, but won't pair
Anyone tried with a Polar H6 or H7?
Basch88 said:
Anyone tried with a Polar H6 or H7?
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Polar H7 does not pair.
I tried to connect to my girlfriends s3mini but same result.. I think its a bug or a feature
Or only Bluetooth headsets are supported yet in wear?
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lm_1970 said:
Polar H7 does not pair.
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Wrong! Polar H7 does pair and works perfectly.
I will rephrase it. My Polar H7 pairs but inmediately disconnects from my Smartwatch 3. What app are you using in the watch to see the heart rate? How are you pairing both devices?
Thanks.
lm_1970 said:
I will rephrase it. My Polar H7 pairs but inmediately disconnects from my Smartwatch 3. What app are you using in the watch to see the heart rate? How are you pairing both devices?
Thanks.
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It's kind of strange, it stops at "Connecting..." but is really connected. Look at "Unpair devices", if your H7 band shows up there, you are connected. I have not tried pairing two devices at the same time, sorry...
Try "Sports Gear Tracker", not a great app but it will show your heart rate anyway...
My Polar iWL shows up at the "unpair menu" but does not connect to the "Heart Rate - Sport Gear + Wear" app.
I think because my Polar Wearlink+ HRM does not use Bluetooth 4.0 (Smart)
Have to buy a Polar H7 instead... Or does anyone recommend a better one?
bosse11 said:
It's kind of strange, it stops at "Connecting..." but is really connected. Look at "Unpair devices", if your H7 band shows up there, you are connected. I have not tried pairing two devices at the same time, sorry...
Try "Sports Gear Tracker", not a great app but it will show your heart rate anyway...
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Wow, that's interesting! Does the HR data seem like it's being recorded accurately and consistently? Can you please provide some screen shots of this?
HRM Works SW3!
I have a MIO Link Bluethooth 4th HRM Wrist strap. If I install heart rate - sport gear + wear (which has a wear app), get the phone app to recognize the strap, start a workout on phone, disconect it, run the wear app, it detects my Mio link and displays the heartbeat value on the SW3. I then even killed the bluetooth on my phone to kill the wear link and the HR still increased. Its a little finicky, but this is very encouraging! screenshot attached.
It starts at 70, but then varys a little...not as accurate as the phone app as it seems to move around more. However it does increase when i do jumping jacks.
Its a start, not really working, but at least wear can see BT HR monitors in some capacity
H7 Connection
As has been mentioned the Polar H7 says "connecting" but does'nt say connected. It does appear in setting within unpair.
Testing with Sport Gear tracker does provide results though they are vastly out. I have no idea if it is actually reading the H7 and just inaccurately translating the reading or indeed if its just spouting other data.
davidjac said:
As has been mentioned the Polar H7 says "connecting" but does'nt say connected. It does appear in setting within unpair.
Testing with Sport Gear tracker does provide results though they are vastly out. I have no idea if it is actually reading the H7 and just inaccurately translating the reading or indeed if its just spouting other data.
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Same here with the H6
It it possible to configure the following.
smartwartch 3 connected to both a Polar Bluetooth heart rate monitor and a bluetooth headset and use endomondo for running?
NO PHONE
How long will the battery last with this setup.
At the moment, only with Ghostracer
Wysłane z mojego G7-L01 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Is it possible to sync ghostracer to endomondo inc. heart rate?
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Is it possible to sync ghostracer to endomondo inc. heart rate?
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The the moment no, it only supports Strava, Smash Run, and Runkeeper. Aside from Endomondo, it does do everything you ask otherwise though; i use it with my Polar H7, LG Tone Pros, and record with Ghostrunner.
You can export data to ghostracer and import in endomondo web site manually, in this manner we are also imported data cardio.
Has anyone testes it with jabra sport pulse wireless?
A BT headset with HRMbuildin.
Has anyone tested it with the Jabra sport pulse wireless headset which has HRM build in?
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Has anyone tested it with the Jabra sport pulse wireless headset which has HRM build in?
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I did, it works as advertised. I only ran with the Jabra's like twice, found them very uncomfortable. They work though.
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Has anyone tested it with the Jabra sport pulse wireless headset which has HRM build in?
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I run often with jabra sport pulse + ghostracer and I find it VERY good.
The headphones have a very good fit for my ear but you will need to experiment with the sizes of the ear buds and wings to find the size that is good for you.
I leave my phone at home, run, listen to music and record my HR, all from the watch.
When I'm finished, I select 'export' from ghostracer on my phone, then use an app called 'sync my runs' to import that activity in to runtastic. endomondo is an option too.
Is there a solid reason why doesn't this setup work with Endomondo?
Works really well with the Jabra Sport Pulse, and now the Google Fit update allows you to track runs and walks with the built in GPS - does anyone know if we can get the Jabra Pulse to connect to Google Fit for heart rate monitoring? (Google say it can track your heart rate if you have a heart rate monitor on your Smartwatch)
I'm trying to get a BT Smart HRM to work with Endomondo on Smartwatch 3 but I can't get it to show heartrate on the watch. When using Ghostracer it connects in seconds. It's just that I've noticed that when using Endomondo the GPS is much more accurate and Ghostracer has a tendency to completwly crash the GPS after about 5 kilometers.
So what I want is a standalone Endomondo with HRM...
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