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hi,
why the Galaxy W is considered a Low device?
worth buying it? worth it?
and it is HDPI ou MDPI?
thanks
the wonder is wonderful its one of the fastest phones out there and its only single cored (i think) and that makes it small and fast. its app compatability is great. nearly all the apps that arnt compatible are only root apps and stuff as theyr'e availible for moto droid razar for example. its screen size is ok (unlike the ace/young or whatever. those phones have small (less then average sized screens) which is the reason why those phones have very little app compatiblity. its ram...not what the specs say but it does the job i guess...(one thing worth mentioning is that some games push the phone too hard making it crash sometimes) im not sure if its hdpi (or whatever it is) or mdpi. finaly...the advanced stuff. our phone..isnt..that..known...so realy customisation is hard at times as noone (but 5 people maybe) make roms for our phone so at least you dont have to pick what one you want that hardly...we do have cm9 (alpha currently) which is the best rom on all phones. it is prone to soft bricks and can be fixed easily without the help of samsung. memory is reasonable...ly low for someone like me (an sd card dont help me) but its ok if you DONT update samsung apps. (one sec i have nearly a whole phone full of free space. i update samsung apps and i have no more memory) root isnt realy needed for our phone as we cant do a thing (app compatibility) if theres a root app up there theres usualy a risk of brick as everythings experimental. (things like the s i will get root for things like chainfire) thats all i can think of right now (its midnight where i am so i cant think right) :thumbup::beer: our phone is like a mini galaxy s but smaller in lamest terms. if you cant afford an s get a w. its worth it for many reasons.
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thank you for the answer! was very useful!
accepted more reviews!
It's all about point of views.
Galaxy W is like a Galaxy S II being "minimized". So you can say that it is a mid-end phone that has the closest relationship with high end phone.
Regarding from specs and prices, it's pretty nice, though, if you want cheaper mid-end phones which specs almost the same as Wonder, you can look for Ace Plus (the difference is about US $50 )
But again, with US $50 differences , Galaxy W offers better GPU and RAM.
Android is all about the ROM. Simply to say, if you don't root it, it's limited in performance (Samsung's stock roms tend to have worse memory management compared to stock roms)
Galaxy W can play pretty much HD games (with a little lag / without lag once you can solve some memory management issues)
again.. if you want to buy it.. root it
im not afraid to root i have a galaxy ace rooted.
worth change the galaxy ace to galaxy w?
root all you want but...it might not be worth it on our phone apart for customisation. as i said. most root apps are for the well known phones...our phone isnt one.
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Android is all about the ROM. Simply to say, if you don't root it, it's limited in performance (Samsung's stock roms tend to have worse memory management compared to stock roms)
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Strongly agree!!! If iOS is an adult, android is just like a child. There is nothing much for an adult to change and perform much better, BUT a child can learn whatever u give!!!
SGW has good CPU and RAM given. The only drawback is the material built. Its framework is made of plastics (very light) BUT the screen material is GORILLA GLASS (for some region not ALL). Use it with care and it will be a great and cheap phone.
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root all you want but...it might not be worth it on our phone apart for customisation. as i said. most root apps are for the well known phones...our phone isnt one.
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My friend gmaster....
you will need to explain what you mean by that statement??
Of course rooting us the secret to unlocking the full potential of any phone/device...
all custom ROMs are rooted anyway, by default, so there is no option there, but rooting Stock ROMs also allows system write access and de-bloat, better memory management, V6 Turbo Charger recommended, installation of loads if "root-only" Apps, useful Apps, whether for general device management, like Better Battery Stats, or swap internal/external SD for gamers, etc.
Serious Android users need root, simples!!
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i know and thats why im rooted right now. but once again the more usefull root apps arnt availible to our device. thats all i mean
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i know and thats why im rooted right now. but once again the more usefull root apps arnt availible to our device. thats all i mean
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Which useful "root apps" would they be??
I don't know of any root app which will not run on the GT i8150 either GB or CM9[ICS]...
I really wanna know which Apps you have in mind.....
it would be useful to have some examples
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willypt said:
if you want cheaper mid-end phones which specs almost the same as Wonder, you can look for Ace Plus (the difference is about US $50 )
But again, with US $50 differences , Galaxy W offers better GPU and RAM.
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Are you blind or what? You have forgot to mention that ACE+ has lower CPU speed, less flash memory, lower battery capacity, 2.5x lower screen resolution (it is big difference).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Ace_Plus
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Android is all about the ROM. Simply to say, if you don't root it, it's limited in performance (Samsung's stock roms tend to have worse memory management compared to stock roms)
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Read what you have write before post please.
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its ok if you DONT update samsung apps. (one sec i have nearly a whole phone full of free space. i update samsung apps and i have no more memory)
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This is just bull****, maybe some coincidence in your phone, please don't make such a conclusion from just only your personal anomal experience.
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most root apps are for the well known phones
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I am shocked, how can you say something like this, please proof this statement.
Are you sleepless or drunk or what?
I was just ignoring stuff from this source up to now.......
but some of what he says is simply unbelievable...I would be very careful taking advise fro this source.... clearly not fully up to speed.... IMHO
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Are you blind or what? You have forgot to mention that ACE+ has lower CPU speed, less flash memory, lower battery capacity, 2.5x lower screen resolution (it is big difference).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Ace_Plus
Read what you have write before post please.
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This is just bull****, maybe some coincidence in your phone, please don't make such a conclusion from just only your personal anomal experience.
I am shocked, how can you say something like this, please proof this statement.
Are you sleepless or drunk or what?
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U got ur points. I know what u meant but please do not "tend" to start a war here. Some of the users are just beginners and they are still learning. Try to give ur response in a gentle manner.
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I know what u meant but please do not "tend" to start a war here. Try to give ur response in a gentle manner.
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I am sorry, in any case I didn't want to start the war here. So I apologize, if it looks like it. I was only really upset how much misleading information can be published in only one small thread as an answer for an innocent and understandable question and how can some people publicly spread bs, I don't know how to say it more gentle.
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Some of the users are just beginners and they are still learning.
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I am just beginner too. If we meter user experience by number of posts here, I am more beginner than both users I was reply to.
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I am sorry, in any case I didn't want to start the war here. So I apologize, if it looks like it. I was only really upset how much misleading information can be published in only one small thread as an answer for an innocent and understandable question and how can some people publicly spread bs, I don't know how to say it more gentle.
I am just beginner too. If we meter user experience by number of posts here, I am more beginner than both users I was reply to.
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LOL~ That's true. We won't meter anyone by number of posts but how helpful were the responses and how much work one had done for this community.
Quality is more important than Quantity.
After reviewing what gmaster1 said again, those are his personal experience rather than facts. I guess he was trying to say our SGW is too new to have most of the useful apps for rooted phone due to compatibility issues instead of "not available" for our phone. However, acro68, cowithgun, Rio, KP... and more xda-developers here have explored many ways to get our SGW better. It is only a 6 months baby now. Give it and give us some times.
willypt said:
if you want cheaper mid-end phones which specs almost the same as Wonder, you can look for Ace Plus
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Maybe you mean Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, not Ace Plus? But anyway, it is a good manner read/verify own post before publish it
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LOL~ That's true. We won't meter anyone by number of posts but how helpful were the responses and how much work one had done for this community.
<engraved in stone in gold color>Quality is more important than Quantity.</engraved in stone in gold color>
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Yes I wholeheartedly agree!
For sure I don't mean number of posts as a only meter of experience, but you know what I want to say anyway
I know forum trolls with thousands post, but they are ... just trolls.
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After reviewing what gmaster1 said again, those are his personal experience rather than facts. I guess he was trying to say our SGW is too new to have most of the useful apps for rooted phone due to compatibility issues instead of "not available" for our phone. However, acro68, cowithgun, Rio, KP... and more xda-developers here have explored many ways to get our SGW better. It is only a 6 months baby now. Give it and give us some times.
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I have no major compatibility issues at all, to be true only this one. I am very happy with SGW. I very carefully choose it, I love its form factor, its materials, display size and dpi, its power and responsiveness. I want phone which I can steer by just one hand for a long time without any issues from the heat a heaviness. It is like small grey mouse, nothing fancy at all, but for me it is hidden hero and I love small and cleverly crafted things.
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After reviewing what gmaster1 said again, those are his personal experience rather than facts. I guess he was trying to say our SGW is too new to have most of the useful apps for rooted phone due to compatibility issues instead of "not available" for our phone. However, acro68, cowithgun, Rio, KP... and more xda-developers here have explored many ways to get our SGW better. It is only a 6 months baby now. Give it and give us some times.
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yes. that is what i mean. but apart from that our phone makes other phones look bad. if other phones have root just so it looks good our phone will look even better without.
and also for the person who wanted an example of more useful root apps, chainfire 3D is one that would be a good touch for our device.
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yes. that is what i mean. but apart from that our phone makes other phones look bad. if other phones have root just so it looks good our phone will look even better without.
and also for the person who wanted an example of more useful root apps, chainfire 3D is one that would be a good touch for our device.
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From what I know, some users are able to get chainfire 3D worked on SGW.
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From what I know, some users are able to get chainfire 3D worked on SGW.
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even soo...if it aint known to be compatible then i dont wanna risk it...
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On my opinion :| on this phone is not worth it for 400$+ and also :| this phone gonna be phase out maybe october when galaxy w released ( ahmm although they markdown the price before phasing it out ):| anyway . this phone is good than galaxy ace or galaxy ace plus .. as someone said before. most of the application are compatible... but the memory is limited. so you still need to root to get full potential of this phone :| ohh before I almost forgot, What Is better.? Galaxy ACE 2 Or Galaxy W ? srry if off topic :| ahmm speaking of chainfire3D ? it could fix some Problems WIth Other games?? like Nova 2 HD ? coz i freeze there at screen loading.
EDIT: This guy just made my day!! I just made a 47kbit video with this mod to stock camera.
NOW we can close this thread if mods so desire =) Thank you everyone!
So the bitrate on HTC One X's camera is hilariously low.
Videos that it spits out terrible when compared to SGSII which I gave to my wife. Video is just strobbing and wobbling due to it.
I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
I think hardware is capable of "normal" bitrate, since some market camera apps allow for it.. But can we make a hack to our camera to allow for high bitrates?
I mean, I love the phone.. but what's the point of 1080p video capability if it spits out 10k bitrate? None.
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I understand that some people have very low quality standards and are satisfied with it, and there were some threads about it here.. but everything kinda died out.
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Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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maybe HTC will eventually bring out an update, wich increases the bitrate of the camera app (hope so)
Maybe that should tell you something. Do you think starting a new thread when others are open is going to change anything? It's been acknowledged and is for now a fact of life. What are you expecting to happen? More ranting? A petition perhaps? For those that are desperately miserable with all or parts of the One X, why don't you sell it and get an SGS3? Repetitive ranting here isn't going to change anything no matter how many threads are opened.
Duplicate threads, especially those that are stated as duplicate threads, get closed.
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Look at you all puffing and pissed off, lol. Angry little creature.
I opened this thread because it's a legitimate question about why aren't those threads getting an attention they deserve. Perhaps people are satisfied with choppy wobbly video that One X produces, perhaps a solution has been found that I'm not aware of. Hence, the thread.
And a related question - What are you expecting to happen by yelling at me for opening this thread? More ranting? For you, desperately miserable and super angry about this thread, why don't you see a shrink - perhaps they can fix you up.
Now unless you got something relevant to contribute to the problem at hand, go rant somewhere else.
Super-Veloce said:
I agree, 720p goes ok, but 1080p stutters a lil bit.. the bitrate should be higher..
tried it with some other apps, like lgCamcorder.. you can select the bitrate and you'll get smoother video (20mbps is enough)
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maybe HTC will eventually bring out an update, wich increases the bitrate of the camera app (hope so)
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I remember seeing someone who developed a higher bitrate camera for Sensation trying to make one for HOX.. but not sure what happened there - did he lose interest?
It just surprises me that this isn't discussed much more.
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
ArmedandDangerous said:
It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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cool m8, When you look at the results from the mod/apps you think what the hell is HTC thinking.
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It's been talked about A LOT, especially by me in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24993164&postcount=39
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
mafia187 said:
Search for the sense HQcamera mod - when i was running sense i got 29fps at 11-12,000kbps and uncompressed/4-5mb pics BIG difference compared to stock camera. CM9 - im getting 18-19,000kbps with 22fps indoors, will test outdoors later.
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Yes, I remember that one. Unfortunately, development of it for HOX was stopped, and existing beta mod freeezes up and FCs a lot. I just tried latest 1.3beta for Sense4 - that is indeed the case.
I contacted that developer with a PM, asking him what does he need to fully port that mod for HOX, with 25+mbits for 1080p. If he needs a financial incentive to compensate for his time and effort, I'll get a bounty going here.
So far, only Camera ICS works decently well, without crashing.
LGCamera is on and off kind of thing. About half the time it doesn't record anything - just black video feed.
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Thank you! I remember looking at that thread, but haven't seen the these results.
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I've actually been asked by a XDA member to do some more tests with the current ROM version. Will be doing 720p and 1080p some time soon Been raining these days, not enough sun ):
one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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one thing to open a new thread to "talk about the problem" over and over, another with the purpose of actually solving / improving the issue.
imho i'm tired of discussing the "problem", it has been discussed already to death, that's why the search function is for.
as far as the "solution" goes, there's couple of threads/developments around which (WOW) are linked in the respective "problem" threads....
@OP: there's other alternatives to LgCamera that work well...care to search for them?
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And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
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And your ranting adds what to the thread?
LGCamera doesn't work very well with HOX. Many times it can't get the feed from camera and won't work until reboot.
Camera ICS is a bad alternative as it's ugly, has adds and has resolution problems.
HDCamera mod doesn't work with HOX.
I did read those threads, that's why I opened this one.
Now, can we stop acting like a new thread costs millions of dollars and move on with the discussion? If you don't want to participate - don't participate. If all you want to do is complain - please avoid this thread kkthnx.
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close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
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close your eyes when taking a photo so you don't have to see the CameraICS interface...add 1.99$ to the mix and get rid of the ads. there are no resolution problems.
nothing new that hasn't been said before.....
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'close your eyes when taking a photo'??
... Wow. Just.. Wow.
Could I ask you to please stop trolling this thread? Just... ignore it. Thanks.
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there are no resolution problems.
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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I've never mentioned it before, but all those apps at least used to have dodgy aspect ratios when recording video, couldnt find any option to work around it.
Just looked now actually, most recent version of camera ics has fixed that...
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It still does =(
Just bought a paid version of Camera ICS - tested it out - stretched videos. Had to get a refund immediately.
So Camera ICS isn't a viable option, so is LGCamera that can't even connect to the camera about 80% of the time (tested on several ROMs).
Back at square one =(
45kbit+ video mod for stock camera!!! Seems to be working fine so far. Now I'm happy =)
Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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Seems to be recording at 24fps only. Not smooth enough for me /:
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there was a mod for 29FPS out there, wasn't it?
but bitrate still @ 10-12mbps
pick your poison, will take a genius to combine FPS and bitrate in one mod
Ok guys this thread is to show the world how different the camera of M7 is.
So post best pictures taken by you with M7 and let everyone know about the quality this camera has. :good:
Someone beat you to it quite some time ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169626
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Someone beat you to it quite some time ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169626
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Sad na
Hi guys , as lot of us I want a Pixel Rom with the Pixel Experience and most of all the Pixel Camera (So we can really use our camera sensor )
I have been in talks we some Developers of Pixel Roms and ask them if they would be interested in trying to make a Pixel Rom for our Mi5s and 4 of them answered me with a positive answer.
I'm creating this thread because for them to try to build the Rom we would need to join forces and Donate enought money so we could purchase them a Mi5s.
So if you are interested in a Pixel Rom and don't mind giving up a Buck for the cause just let me know in the Pool to see if this would be possible.
So I created a CrowdFunding campaing to see if we can reach the goal , I set the goal to 460$ to see if we could get two Mi5s to the two Dev's who are most interested.
If you want this to happen just donate 1$ it's a Beer and it would help alot!
http://fnd.us/51Fx7c?ref=sh_96jnqa
How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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How about we also post this to reddit? Maybe a few people over there are also interested
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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Central post should be here and we should have links on Reddit and mi forums
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so the central post will be on reddit ? or here?
i think here will make more important the campaign
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I agree that the Central Post should be here and if we would create on the oher Forums we should link it to this one.
I don't have a Reddit account if you guys don't mind creating for me I would appreciate.
Best regards
Wow i can't wait for it ???
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Wow i can't wait for it
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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weve still got ways to go unless by some miracle the price of the device drops to $20 We need to get as many onboard as possible!
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i do my best
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Hi there , I think the point would be for him to stay with the device and we would only consider that of sending to another one if the choosen Dev won't be able to do anything per say.
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So have you actually found a developer who ported camera software from pixel/nexus phones before ? (I suppose camera is the main goal for us, no doubt pixel is doing this job much better having same hardware). The camera app itself doesn't affect picture quality that much, it is rather result of usage of underlying algorithms. Porting rom (or doing it feel it like pixel has from the box using lineage or another existing rom) won't be a big problem for a specialist, but all underlying software may not be so easily accessible, because it uses google developments that they likely don't want to expose. I'm not a rom developer so just want to clarify things (maybe they already released all required drivers in open source and it is only problem of testing it on a real device )
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What I did was asking some Developers from the Pixel section if they would be interested in making a Pixel Rom for the Xiaomi Mi5s and if they would be able to try to Port the Camera Firmware or Algorithms from the Pixel to the Xiaomi Mi5s.
Of course they can't know for sure if they are going to be able to do it but they said they would love to try , and that's the best answer we can get from anyone to be honest.
We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
j1505243 said:
We have broken closed source libs lolololo. The camera is the toughest part of all. Totally.
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If there is progress in this direction, then certainly is good news.
I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
mesziman said:
I think the only possible problem for this is that Google locked their prop libs to work only on Pixel. But I doubt it!!
I have disassembled the Google camera application and it checks the phone if it is Pixel or not.
If the libs were locked down I think it would mean an unnecessary double check.
I am a software developer myself and I am considering porting this to our device, however, I have no experience with android so far so it will take a bit of time.
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I would like to help, but like you I'm a software developer and I don't know if I can help with my knowledge. But it's cool to see peoples interested to the improvement of this camera.
When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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When and where do we donate money?
And I would like to see comments from the developer
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I'd like to know this too
Take me?I am responsible for informing the Chinese people of the miui forum
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Great idea we could also post to miui forums!
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sogou search 小米商城 and download ，I dare say you will come back to thank me（Because recently discounted）
Airborntx said:
Lads , after the dev reach His potential, what Is he going to do with the device? Kept or send it to another one? I have questions about that
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Nexus Experience rom is very similar to pixel. http://www.nxrom.us/mi5splus.html I can't tell a difference from it vs the pixel rom on my 5x other than some LOS features included.
Google photo thinks it's a pixel (unlimited storage)
Flashing the google camera - https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported takes care of the camera part, although I use a separate app for video recording since its video recording is buggy and FCs
Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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leodiavata said:
Is it possible to update htc 10 camera app to a newer version (it currently is 8.6 something on oreo stock ) . As far as I know there is a 9.* version. Is there a way to use a newer version of htc camera that better utilizes the sensor or the best way is to find a good enough google camera app ( since many are buggy )
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Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
Ehm did not really work. Get an error app not installed during installation.
Chucktr said:
Yes. Install one of the UpDates from HTC Camera.
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
Apologies
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Did not really work. Get an error during installation of any version . App not installed.
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My humblest apologies for being so late on this -but- you can try these two apps from Google Play:
Camera FV-5 Lite and
Cinema FV-5 Lite
There are also Pro versions which will cost you some dollars.
They have lots of settings. The HTC camera did both the stills and videos but these are two separate apps.
Take care,
-Chuck
Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
Meshok said:
Is there any port of HTC Cameara making it work on ROMs without Sense like LOS?
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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How would that be possible without the sense framework ?
Los no sense = no sense framework layer.
If it would be possible it would have been done years ago .....
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Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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This actually installs on crdroid N.
Can't say for O, P, Q
But gcam takes far better shots.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/themes/htc-sense-s10s-t3917979
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
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Sense Framework is just a set of native libs + APKs.
When you need to port an app using them, you just have to "bake" them into your app's APK. So instead of using system-wide installed stuff, a ported app would use the ones from its own APK.
The only major two issues are poorer compatibility of such app across Android SDK versions and larger APK size compared to the original APK targetted a system with pre-installed Sense.
Actually, HTC has published a set of its Sense apps available for any device already.
And fortunately, HTC Camera works on LOS 16
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Thank you the link, I didn't know about this port.
What do you mean by "gcam takes far better shots"? If you're talking about image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
How a generic gcam written to work with any cameras from horrible ones to best-of-breed (thus having multitude of compromises in its source code) could send better settings to the HTC OEM hardware compared to a HTC's own native Camera app on HTC device?
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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lmao
don't know or care
a thank you doesn't hurt either.
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Ok, just checking since in your OP you've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
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You know, you could Google for an explanation instead of going after @andybones, the person that tried to help you out with a great suggestion.
If you take a little time you'll see that the gcam ports are omnipresent, every single device subforum has a request or a thread for one. To answer your question, it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality in smartphones, and Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports, even with the shortcuts and loss of features that are expected.
Go ahead and give it a try, I actually came back to this forum looking for the port so I can install it on my mom's HTC 10 since the stock camera is pretty underwhelming
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LOL dude, OP stands for "Opening Post" and that's not me.
And I have nothing to do with gcam development, like literally what are you talking about bro?
Try them both out.. I didn't have to find that htc camera app for you and I have no interest in using it..
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@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Hold on, you are asking why you can’t use HTC sense camera on non sense ROMs yet HTC camera works on Los which is a non sense ROM..... if that is so why do you ask such a question ?
That is a massive contradiction.........making it so that your initial question doesn’t stand ground at all.
Cheers, enjoy the htc camera
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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it's been known for a while now that the hardware isn't the only, or even main determining factor for image quality
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
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Google showed that better then anyone with the Pixel lineup. Those devices have inferior camera hardware, but shoot the absolute best pics. And it's all down to the software processing that the camera app has, which still works with the ports
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If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
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@andybones Oh, sorry! I've made an outrageous mistake by typing 'your OP' instead of 'your answer to me'. Not everyone has perfect English here. Excuse me, sir! Thank you for letting me know what's OP acronym stands for!
I haven'r said you have something to do with gcam development. Let me repeat myself:
>>> You've said it so that I've thought there are objective measures why gcam would produce better shots than HTC Cam.
That's all what I've meant to say you in response.
If I'd get objective arguments instead of personal opinions why gcam could be better and in which respects, I'll definitely try it out and only if those respects would be important to me.
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Wow Did you know that Sense apps could (and are) ported on non-Sense ROMs?
If you did not, do a research on this topic before commenting on something you know little about.
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I haven't said 'only'. Instead, I added the following '+' clause to my initialstatement:
>>> image quality it depends solely on camera's hardware quality (which obviously is the same in both cases) + a set of settings a camera app sends to the hardware for taking an image.
If gcam was absolute best with Pixel hardware, why do we know it'd be absolute best with any other random hardware like HTC 10 hardware?
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I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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I don't care enough to get wound up, so I'll put this as nice and clearly as I can for you.
#1 - here at XDA this is an ENGLISH ONLY forum, so no you aren't excused.
#2 - yes, OP stands for ONE thing here. Opening Post. Not whatever you come up with as type.
#3- do us all a favor and go read the rules.
#4- I can't even begin to tell you how ridiculous you sound using MY SEACHING and answer to be petty to others. How about you go and search. If you did, I wouldn't of needed to hand feed you and be here dealing with you.
#5- it amazes me that you honestly think that anyone is going to stumble on this post and be like yeaa, let's help this guy out. No. You literally just saved everyone a lot of trouble and their time.
I said try them both, that's not being objective.
This is a joke.
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All you're saying is so sad to hear You make me really feel my quilt. But I promise you I will do my best to correct all the things you've mentioned above! Hopefully, you'd excuse me one day seeing my effort to become a better human being...
Also, next time when somebody would ask me about a 'camera app X port' in a topic dedicated to that canera X app, I'd answer 'Dude, camera app Y is the best, But don't ask me why. Use Google to prove my own opinion'.
Thank you fir this lesson, too! Is this also a rule in your XDA rule set?
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That's fair enough.
I just attempted to get your objective arguments on your subjective statement.
Because 'X is better than Y' without objective arguments is a subjective statement. If you're not gonna provide them here, that's fine. Nobody is hurt
I think we've perfectly understood each other So following your great example - I'm not gonna continue the 'gcam is better than X' discussion anymore. Thank you for your advice and have a great evening!
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