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WP7 Rom for Inc2 Poll

Poll on who wants a Windows Phone 7 ROM

1st vote
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Willy Peeon 7
Are you looking for a thrill chill?
WM6.5 would make more sense with SD Card support and retro apps that have much more usefulness.
How would one get past the DRM that’s gives Willy Peeon access to all the content on ones device?
I would rather see a dual boot Android/WM 6.5....
Maybe start with the Fathom V7 ROM and just fix the data drop issue.
Then stick it in the face of that little dictator**** wanabe website LGforum that will ban you for telling it like it is.
If I could just get past decompiling the .wdb file...
The rest is just engineered obsolescence of the Fathom.
Your ROM help those who would consider trying that type of OS.
More power to you..

Lmao. I don't have to do this... I was just trying to please the two pm's I got... If u don't like my rom, simply don't use it. Im not a well knowledged dev, but I do try. Over at x2 we don't have much, so I put this together for us to have. The op and someone else pm’d me for this. Please don't go off hating like that. Im just trying to help.........
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OOPS
Hey,
I apologize.
I didn't mean to dis anyone or their hard work.
If you found a way to make it work then that's a whole nother story.
That sounds like something I might just try out in my spare time.
I just thought that with the internal memory limitations of the DInc II and the restriction of WP7 to not allow the use of an SD Card, there wouldn’t be much room to load programs. Kind of like the AndrOmnia project...
I do appreciate the work of just about all of the devs that I have read about.
I didn’t know that it was actually a work in progress.
And that wanabe website I was referring to is the LGforum that could be if it were controlled by someone other than North Korea.
Keep up the great work…

Yehp.. It's still beta... what dows LG forums have to do with this? The rom should be out of beta next week sometime.. IM releasing the blurless version tomorrow"pretty much blurless" I just have a couple more things I need to take care of on x2 side before I can start on this.

cac2us said:
Hey,
I apologize.
I didn't mean to dis anyone or their hard work.
If you found a way to make it work then that's a whole nother story.
That sounds like something I might just try out in my spare time.
I just thought that with the internal memory limitations of the DInc II and the restriction of WP7 to not allow the use of an SD Card, there wouldn’t be much room to load programs. Kind of like the AndrOmnia project...
I do appreciate the work of just about all of the devs that I have read about.
I didn’t know that it was actually a work in progress.
And that wanabe website I was referring to is the LGforum that could be if it were controlled by someone other than North Korea.
Keep up the great work…
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Its not actual wp7 on the phone, its made to look like it. Like using launcher7 from the market.
And I'm voting for it btw
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I vote yes.

Always yes. Innovation is what keeps the community alive.
Why would one vote no? Just because you yourself wouldnt use it I am sure others will.
I voted yes.

well unless someone is willing to do it, i dont know what this poll even accomplishes. I'm under the impression that porting a different OS takes a lot more skill than making a native rom, otherwise the HD2 wouldn't be the only phone with 9000 different operating systems.
I vote yes, more roms are always awesome.

Zax_Was_Here said:
well unless someone is willing to do it, i dont know what this poll even accomplishes. I'm under the impression that porting a different OS takes a lot more skill than making a native rom, otherwise the HD2 wouldn't be the only phone with 9000 different operating systems.
I vote yes, more roms are always awesome.
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Try reading the thread its not the OS..
tylerlawhon said:
Its not actual wp7 on the phone, its made to look like it. Like using launcher7 from the market.
And I'm voting for it btw
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knipp21 said:
Try reading the thread its not the OS..
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Thanks for clearing that up. Go check out the "porting a ROM thread. It explains and has a link to the original.
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flashing i9100 roms to t989

i know its been asked but i'm starting the discussion. there has to be an easy way to flash all these great i9100 roms on to our tmobile t989. i would think its mostly a kernal difference and some hardware buttons. i say this because i love hyperdroid roms (mostly wanted s2 for use of his rom) .with the hd2 all builds worked on all phones (europe,asia,usa,etc) no matter the model number.
i am starting the discussion and will help to develop with my time and limited knowledge (i need people who know more about building these roms) a simple zip file to be flashed through cwm. most builds use a base version, then have roms and etc over the top of them. so there must be a way to find a base version you like for any i9100, flash over cwm, then flash a "kernal" of sorts that "adds in or takes out" what is needed for android to run on our t989.
any thoughts? anyone want to discuss this? i have the time (as much as possible, my gf keeps saying "why dont you just make your own and quit bit$%ing").
also i saw a kitchen for building roms for s2 but not sure if its t989 compatible.
lets get to work, our phone is new but the i9100 is already cooking along, we can piggy back and make our phones just as awesome!

Reading from the tittle of the thread, please dont do it! Just fall back..
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So I understand you're not going to try to flash it but you're wrong about the major hurdle: Its the different processor. Since we have different hardware we're not talking about a slightly different radio, we're talking about two completely different devices branded as the same thing.

i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.

To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)

but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients

cashyftw said:
To sum up what Kevin said : It's like flashing a sensation rom on our sgs2...(Right?)
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kenVAN its my first and last name pushed together But yes.
letrain02 said:
but sense has been ported to other non htc devices. my point is it can be done. we should talk about it and get a discussion going. i'd be more then happy to help "port" other roms that are out for s2 varients
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i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Porting sense to non-HTC phones requires massive amounts of work and open source. Yes, it is possible but whether or not its feasible is a different option. You're right that the kernel is the main difference but even so its much more work than simply adjusting the kernel since there are soooooo many differences. Cashy put it well: you're porting a ROM from effectively a Samsung device to an HTC device. The only similarities are the screen and touchwiz. If you want to give it a go, I'd wait until we have a full ODIN tar to help you recover your phone because you're going to get a few bricks.

Well good luck to us all.
got my T989 few days ago, and I find it much better than the usual i9100 that everyone have on every aspect, except for the lack of support and android development. I regret I based my decision solely on technical spec rather than checking the verity of available firmware and development.
I live and use this phone in Israel, and that stock T-mobile rom I got with it is loaded with lots of irremovable T-mobile apps. Those are irrelevant for me. But the real issue is about the RTL support. I now have to read Hebrew text backwards (taht ekil hpargarap eloh a daer ot yrT) in some text fields. And it won't let me use the mobile hotspot by saying my sim card is not supported. I can't see why it connects to the internet (it does, checked my APN settings twice and it configured right) but won't let me use that hotspot.
Can't these changes in the level of GUI be implanted from other equivalent roms as source code? Does these minor changes take so much work? Before overclocking my phone to 1.89 Ghz I would rather get the basic functions done.
And I'm willing to donate, and to help in any way to promote this project.

I tried a similar thing with my LG optimus 2x (I have model p-999 which is really t-mobile's g2x) by accident. Even though the variations are named optimus 2x and the specs are almost identical, firmwares just aren't compatible with one another.
I flashed a optimus 2x firmware (p-990) to my p999 and I bricked my phone. At this point, even clockworkmod could not recover it. I had to manually partition a t-mobile g2x recovery file one by one on DOS mode to fix this. Finding this solution was like finding a needle in a haysack. I thought there was a good chance that I flushed $400 down the drain when this happened.
So, lol I dont recommend it knowing that gs2 is even a higher price to pay. Hope this helped.

it's something that I almost gave a try and then decided to check in here to see what people say about flashing these roms.. lol. Thanks guys

Lol I actually did try to flash cm for the i9100 on this phone, but thankfully it only gave me an error and didn't actually go through with the flash. (I had literally gotten the phone the day before too lmao)

letrain02 said:
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.

The problem is not just the kernel. The software is most likely compiled specifically for the processor. If you were talking about linux . . . it would be easy because the source code is there and you can compile it for whatever processor you want, but it seems Samsung is a a company who believes in leeching off off open source and mixing their proprietary crap in it then keeping the sources closed and giving the open source community the finger. Just look at how they handled the vertical lines screen issue. Its all about money to Samsung.

jim93 said:
It sounds like youve got porting perfectly understood. The devs havent been able to do it, you should explain how porting works to them.
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Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.

This thread was started in 2011, and hasn't been active in over 7 months. There is no need to bring it back from the dead to argue with someone.

Its not as impossible as it may seem(for the experienced dev) if u look in the dev section android88 has ported hellybean from the 9100. I'm learning & I've only gotten a bootloop at worse, haven't bricked yet lol.
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It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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letrain02 said:
i realize its hardware, but isn't that all controlled by the kernal? it holds the drivers. it would be like "porting" take a rom everyone loves, make the hardware drivers work, then flash. like i said i'm limited knowledge but i want to start work on this. its a hardware thing i understand. but there must be something we can do to ease the process.
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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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Tmogalaxys2 said:
It is possible with a port. The thing that brocks your phone in flashing an i9100 ROM is the kernel. If you switched the kernels, you'll just have a boot loop or no boot. Flashing another devices kernel is the killer.
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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thefawns said:
Dude no need to be a punk, I seriously dislike people like you who make forums negative. He was asking a question and is trying to learn, which is more than some people do. Keep your negative comments to yourself. If you cant say anything nice don't say anything at all.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it

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Its not that easy. It the more similar to porting over a ROM for a Sony Xperia. Does that sound easy. Its just a name but inside very different
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Oh god not true at all people have already bricked their phone by flashing i9100 ROMS. Needs to be said before somebody bricks their expensive device.
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Its just logic. If its that easy try it and youll learn the inside out of why. Put in a similar amount effort you are asking the dev to put in by learning something about the challenges you are asking the dev to overcome instead of assuming devs arent putting enough thought into it
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i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though

ThdDude said:
i9100 roms port fine to t989 if you know what your doing. Getting BT to work is being a pita for me though
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Where are these ports?
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giving up on this device

im giving up on this optimus lte, im selling it, or trading for a galaxy nexus,
the dev community seems slow, and not any CUSTOM roms, just de-bloated stock roms, there isnt even a real promise of ICS, just a TBD... and i just feel i like the nexus overall better then this anyways, to much hassle over rom flashing and potential corrupting of the filesystem which cause's softbricks and me alot of headaches....
the nexus just seems so much more custom rom friendly

Thanks for letting us all know. I'll alert high command of the situation.

was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...

You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.

why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,

tnap1979 said:
why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,
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Wow what a hypocrite,
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere
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I am learning java and will be moving on to the AP course next year. I have taken web page design and am also moving onto the AP course of that next year. Post count means nothing. But pointing out that fact that you put nearly no thought into your post exemplifies why this thread was started in the first place. So please keep your unhelpful thoughts to yourself.

really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings

tnap1979 said:
really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings
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You said
was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...
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Now why does my post count matter? I have been looking at this forum for years and just made my account to help contribute with the development for the Nitro/Optimus LTE because it is my first smartphone. This is my last post in this thread as it should probably be deleted by a mod anyway. Have fun with your Nexus, nobody will miss you.

yermommy said:
So please keep your unhelpful thoughts to yourself.
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Same goes to you mister.
@tnap1979:
I'll wait for HTC X One and Samsung Skyrocket HD to come out then select one. I don't think I'll stick with Nitro even if ICS released tomorrow...I need my compass and Skullcandy earphones!

thanks [email protected] for some understanding...
if it wasnt for the fact the LG has put me thru so much BS, i might be happy with its hardware, but is just not as friendly as a HTC or Samsung....
htc's and samsung's i know i can recover from super easy, not have a bunch of hassle and be able to come and go quick and simple from any type of custom rom i want...
i still havent figured out if this device has a fastboot mode or anything other then recovery and download mode... ive wanted to find out how to mess with ics... but it refuses to let it boot, and where as the nexus or even my old atrix for that matter have ics, my friends gs2 has ics, and our device has been " promised " ics... but ive heard tell of lg not holding up there end of the bargain on some devices..
might also help if LG was a lil more DEV friendly with their devices as well...
HTC even gives the chance to unlock your bootloader just for that purpose
now i know that the lg p930 does have an unlocked boot loader, but the filesystem seems to not be user friendly to CWM
which makes it difficult for some work to get done if you happen to make mistakes in code or whatever

Bye bye
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8mileroad said:
You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.
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You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.

LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
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I have a Bell Optimus LTE using kernelpanics rom and I have had no issues to speak of. So I'm confident that the CM9 release for the nitro (whenever it ends up releasing) will work on my phone.

I must say that LG's marketing is 2 blame in this poor situation. It's been 1M pieces sold in 2 month BUT it could be 3M to 5M if they have it in shops in india, china, europe and c.i.s.
P880 4X HD is gonna be available only in summer, way too long to wait. LG is digging hole for themselves, they give up market share to samsung Nexus and Note and HTC, & Xperia S
Nitro is a perfect piece of android, way better then Nexuses & other amoled s*1t and poor LG makes nothing to spread its popularity

i agree whole heartedly, the lg p930 is amazing hardware, with crap all for proper dev support and lg's track record does not help them in this matter at all...

well... this phone is as stable as an iphone !
coming from a galaxy kingdom " S S2 note" i can honestly say i always used to flash custom ROMs for a couple of hours but at the end of the day when i go to sleep i have the original one again for stability most of all
at least for the first time in so long i don't waste hours on flashing and restoring data and finding bugs and so on ..... till it end up restoring my backed up original rom and settings !
sure custom roms have their ups and downs but..... the phone is stable guys !
it doesn't have the crappy touchwiz or the need of lagfix ... etc
deploating fixed the lag and the battery..... what else do i want ?! since its not sense UI from HTC nor MIUI or even a worthy and heavy tweaking then i really cant see the need for Devs or to flash our phones !
but thats just me... someone enjoying one of the best screen there is on the rarest high end phone with a quality specs
BTW: anyone else tried playing MKV on this phone and galaxy note ?
trust me u will be surprised

is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.

LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
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First off, how does me saying, basically, "stop *****ing and be patient," make me have any sort of lack of an attention span? We're all frustrated about this phone but most people who frequent here have seen enough *****ing. It's our own damn faults for buying this phone anyway. However, the phone goes a long way when you wipe the internal storage and let the battery break in. It's pretty snappy with GO Launcher and I get a full day of use now. The only problem is the lack of devs, but we've heard this a million times now. Just 21 more months to go... hopefully we'll get ICS by then.

netnerd said:
is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.
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it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it

vodovodo said:
it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it
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probably portable charger doesnt output that much power, that why it' doesnt overheat.
but when i using car charging, the LG does overheat. i also have samsung skyrocket, it never hot like that.

[Q] Forum picking up pace

This forum seems a bit small compared to some of the others. Is this phone really THAT unpopular, or is it more that the devs are waiting until ICS hits to start going to town?

we'll need to know the phone forums you are comparing us to so we can make an accurate analysis, compare&contrast then provide a correct answer.

LOL. Troll win. Epic response.
FWIW i was comparing us to the X10 community I used to inhabit.

Thanks. seems only fair to know who you've compared nitro owners to so we can figure out on our own whether we are one of your 2 choices, unpopular or neglected.
i won't bother getting into the powers of marketing with all its bright, shiny displays and how that impacts most buyer's tendencies.

I agree. I came both from x10 forums first, then most recently the nexus s forms. The total number of posts there were some where around 200k plus, and here we have may be 10% of that. I know that is not necessarily indicative of more support, there seems to be a general lack of progress here. Of course, if I were more capable I would gladly submit my work, but I have to content myself with using what the other more capable devs here, come up with. Here's hoping ICS gets us more attention...
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CM9 isn't enough for you guys? I don't really care how much people post on this board. 99% of the discussion isn't really important anyway. This discussion, for example.
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Malnilion said:
CM9 isn't enough for you guys? I don't really care how much people post on this board. 99% of the discussion isn't really important anyway. This discussion, for example.
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exactly. thank you.
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i was bored so i looked up the x10, released in 2009.
yah, comparing 3+ year old phone's forum with nitro is a valid comparison we can all learn something from.
best thread ever.

Wow seems like we are all from the x10 forum...anyways, I do miss all the trolling from that forum, I do peek at it from time to time just to see what's going on. Other than that I've left my x10 on oodies cm7..probably one of the best rooms with least battery drainage
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I don't understand the problem with my original question. I asked if this phone was unpopular or if there is a community here that is waiting for ICS. Being new to this subsection of xda, it certainly doesn't seem like that bad of a question to ask.
And no, I'm not comparing a three year old phone forum to this one. I'm just trying to judge the size and growth of the community.
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It's not a very popular phone. I think the major reasons that it didn't catch on, especially with developers, are:
(1) the default Gingerbread firmware leaves a lot to be desired
(2) LG has not been very developer friendly in the past, so many developers prefer other brands
(3) it took months before a fully working CWM was released for the phone, and before then, flashing ROMs was very risky
(4) battery life is below average
It's a shame though. The device really has lots of potential.

the big problems with the question are
wtf is the point?
here are the possible outcomes
Ok, the answer, based on your only 2 choices is phone is unpopular, now what?
or OK, phone is neglected, OK, now WTF what?
wtf diff does it make b/w those 2?
answer- none...
how do i know that? because every 1 of my posts have been in this forum and i started here the very 1st day they opened it and in fact, before i even had my 1st p930. and i can tell you from that, neither of those reason is right and quite frankly, the way you come across made me want to shut it down, so that's what i did. we get several thread started by people driving by making crass comments about our device and i will always shut those threads down with a reply in kind.
in fact, you completely leave out the real reason this phone was past over by devs-
timing.
this device was entirely over-shadowed by the release of the ICS galaxy nexus- BIG TIME - certainly you must be able to remember that.
worse, the nexus delay crushed sales #s for this phone because lg followed through on it's release date commit for this device, meaning gb.
all the marketing and bull**** sent most everyone that falls for that (minus the sort that can get passed the shiny display of nexi and see the p930 for what it is) clamoring for the g nex.
and fact is, dev goes where the biggest bottom line is and that ain't in a phone that got caught in the whirlwind of google's phone release with the 1st incarnation of ICS and had minimal sales.
so judge the size and growth of the community based on facts, for whatever reason you feel so compelled to judge our community, not on your pre-conceived and wrong portrayals of wtf is up.

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(1) the default Gingerbread firmware leaves a lot to be desired
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Sowhat? It was targeted for ICS, GB was an afterthought
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Like in every other comparable phone, you name it. Nexus i9250 - below average, sgs2 - below average, 1X- waay below average
It was lack of PROPER advertisement and restriction to 3 markets that gave nitro a bad history
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timing.
this device was entirely over-shadowed by the release of the ICS galaxy nexus- BIG TIME - certainly you must be able to remember that.
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U must remember tat it was the nitro that supposed to be the Nexus 3, 'twas in the news. and it meant to be tegra3 powered. seems that delay and shortage of tegra3 in time to present ICS made Google choose subpar Samsung i9250 to be next Nexus

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Sowhat? It was targeted for ICS, GB was an afterthought
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Right, but since it didn't actually get ICS until this month (and probably even later for AT&T), the "afterthought" GB ROM has in part kept the phone from selling well. I'm not saying it's LG's fault, either.
Like in every other comparable phone, you name it. Nexus i9250 - below average, sgs2 - below average, 1X- waay below average
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I should probably have been more specific. I meant battery life is below average on the default ROM with AT&T bloatware included. I think it has reasonable battery life with CM9 or even debloated stock firmware.

Development for the G?

heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon

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heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g

Each & Every Day were are Growing!
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421

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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?

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Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
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Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
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To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.

Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.

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Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
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It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.

I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.

kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.

kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
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nickespi said:
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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genaro12543 said:
If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..

nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?

nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!

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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
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