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What's with all the half-baked roms for our phone?

I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....

Greetings ben,
I think that you are focusing on how well those roms ran, without remembering how well they started. I came from the Fascinate as well, I ended its call of duty with Evil fascination. None of the roms you mentioned, started without glitches and issues.
The incredible 2 has only had s-off for a couple months. Gingerbread has only been broken for a couple of weeks. The devs are just getting into the meat of the device. It's going to take a bit of time for the developers to turn out their creations, and it's going to take a hell of a lot more patience from the end users.
People seem to forget that these developers don't work for us. The sense of entitlement in these forums is off the chart. Unless you donated to your dev of choice, you haven't had to pay a dime for their continued hard word. Don't let donations fool you into thinking that somehow, the developers owe you anything. Donations are are a sign of respect and appreciation, nothing more.
So until we see a rom developed by you, that comes first day with no glitches, errors or issues, is full of incredible (no pun intended) options and choices, I think that you should maybe show the people working to make your phone experience better, a lot more respect.
I'm not trying to flame you, but your post in a slap in the face to the people making something for you to use freely.

T.M.M.L said:
Greetings ben,
I think that you are focusing on how well those roms ran, without remembering how well they started. I came from the Fascinate as well, I ended its call of duty with Evil fascination. None of the roms you mentioned, started without glitches and issues.
The incredible 2 has only had s-off for a couple months. Gingerbread has only been broken for a couple of weeks. The devs are just getting into the meat of the device. It's going to take a bit of time for the developers to turn out their creations, and it's going to take a hell of a lot more patience from the end users.
People seem to forget that these developers don't work for us. The sense of entitlement in these forums is off the chart. Unless you donated to your dev of choice, you haven't had to pay a dime for their continued hard word. Don't let donations fool you into thinking that somehow, the developers owe you anything. Donations are are a sign of respect and appreciation, nothing more.
So until we see a rom developed by you, that comes first day with no glitches, errors or issues, is full of incredible (no pun intended) options and choices, I think that you should maybe show the people working to make your phone experience better, a lot more respect.
I'm not trying to flame you, but your post in a slap in the face to the people making something for you to use freely.
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Amen to that.

Double Amen.

ben805 said:
I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....
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I think if your are unhappy with the.state of development or with particular roms it should just probably remain private....developers do this for.free and because.they enjoy doing it
Don't like the.sense roms? Use the 3 fully.functional aosp roms we do have or use rmks debloated stock rom
Also afaik virtous unity is a fully functional sense 3 experience
Can only have 1 ROM on ur phone at a time anyway

nitsuj17 said:
I think if your are unhappy with the.state of development or with particular roms it should just probably remain private....developers do this for.free and because.they enjoy doing it
Don't like the.sense roms? Use the 3 fully.functional aosp roms we do have or use rmks debloated stock rom
Also afaik virtous unity is a fully functional sense 3 experience
Can only have 1 ROM on ur phone at a time anyway
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Not true...
http://androidflip.com/how-to-install-multiple-roms-android-dual-boot-android/
But you are correct in saying that he should just keep his negative comments to himself.

I've tried most of the roms that we have for the Dinc 2 so far, and really, for what little amount of time that the Devs have had to work there magic, I'm amazed at what has been accomplished.
I personally am a fan of Sense, so I have been using Virtuosity Unity for the past week now. I spent a weekend with CM7 and a day with Miui...
I would be happy to use any of these for a daily driver, and do with Unity. I keep Gingersense on my Sd card for a backup/go to rom... I can't say that I would consider any of the roms as bad...
I for one am very thankful for the Devs and what they do to make out phones better. You guys Rock!!

ben805 said:
I noticed quite a lot of sense 3.0 roms have been pumped out recently, the funny thing is none of them are significantly different than the other. majority of these half-baked roms do not even have the basic function of a smartphone (aka connectivity, messaging and such) and they are loaded with broken features. LOL man i'm starting to miss the Fascinate community, majority of the roms we had (kangbang, evil fascinating, etc) are rock solid with 100% functionality as far as roms goes. just saying....
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If you are running into issues, then I would suggest asking for assistance. I'm on a sense 3.0 ROM FULLY functional. You may be missing something.
I dont know how long you had your fascinate, but it took a VERY long time for a fully functional aosp ROM became available to us, not for lack of trying from some amazing devs. Now consider we barely got s-off on gb stock, yet I immediately could load various sense or aosp roms.
Just my opinion.

Virtuous is fully functional. I know nothing wrong with the ROM. Thats kinda why it hasnt been updated in weeks, because it doesnt need it. And like Nitsuj said they do it for free. Do a little more research and reading before you flame the awesome devs we have here.
(We dont want anything happening here like it did with JT. A few of the Fascinate users know what Im talking about on that one.)

I think the issue is more of devs pumping out more than one ROM and not sticking to one build per device.
I understand that this stuff takes time, but I'd really like to see the time (and our donations) go to one ROM, not a bunch of different ports or hacks that have lingering bugs that don't get fixed.
I agree with the OP 100%, maybe a different tone could have been used to express the frustration though.
None the less, I'd love to get together with a dev and talk about what us, the community would like to see. I don't like seeing dirty ports of something to come with features that are either missing or can't be fixed.

TheMavic said:
You guys don't see the point. You are so infactuated with his work because it works right for YOU! You seem to forget about all of the other people out there that are having silly problems that could probably be easily fixable but yet instead of devoting his time to fixing those probs he comes out with a new ROM that has the same problems!! Hahaha. I am not even trying to troll but come on... Ahahaha...
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That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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micdawg12 said:
That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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Acting like a douche also doesn't help.
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TheMavic said:
You guys don't see the point. You are so infactuated with his work because it works right for YOU! You seem to forget about all of the other people out there that are having silly problems that could probably be easily fixable but yet instead of devoting his time to fixing those probs he comes out with a new ROM that has the same problems!! Hahaha. I am not even trying to troll but come on... Ahahaha...
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what problems are YOU having that you want fixed?
Have you thought that the majority of US know how to properly utilize the roms given to us, thus we have no problems. Maybe you shouldn't look the gift horse in the mouth, and learn where you may be doing something wrong.
Just saying.

micdawg12 said:
That is easily fixed. Don't use his roms if you aren't happy with it. See? Fixed. Now do as I said earlier and shut your ****ing mouth.
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Lol I love this kid.
And seriously just because it has little problems that some people are getting doesnt mean its a bad ROM, or it isnt functional, or has "major problems" like you said. **** stock RUU's have more problems and not to mention bigger ones than anything here in the development section. Especially Newts stuff. Stock GB deletes main system apps. Pretty big problem. And thats from HTC. People that are paid a lot of money to make these. Again these people are doing it for free. And they do one hell of a job. A rom is never going to be perfect there will always be little bugs that cant really be fixed because NOT EVERY PHONE IS THE SAME. One may have a problem that another may not. So if one doesnt work for you use another. He has many options for ROMs from 2.1, to 2.1/3.0, and full 3.0. Something for everyone that are updated regularly. If your going to talk crap about id say our top dev right now then get off this forum. Nobody here wants that kind of flaming.

TheMavic said:
You guys have made my night. Thank you. This is too much fun.
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You should get your X2 back and hit there forums up. Maybe you will appreciate innovation and hard work over there with your 4 Roms and forever stock kernal. Dont come back here.
Oh and also you say were so infatuated with Newts work or whatever. I dont even run his ROMs. Im either on virtuous or MIUI. I test his ROMs for him. And I still know how often he updates them and just how stable they are. Your a fool.

To me this is like being welcomed into a strangers house to use the bathroom, then telling them that it was an awful experience because their toilet paper was not soft enough. Are you entitled to feel that way? Of course. I would just think it is common courtesy to keep those thoughts to yourself.
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APeaceofStrange said:
To me this is like being welcomed into a strangers house to use the bathroom, then telling them that it was an awful experience because their toilet paper was not soft enough. Are you entitled to feel that way? Of course. I would just think it is common courtesy to keep those thoughts to yourself.
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LOL I love that analogy. But i agree with you.

@Mavic. I understand your frustration. I came from the x10 community. We had the same issues. Newt reminds me of a dev named Trip. He would start a rom, get it near perfect then start another. Ever time though his end results were awesome. Another issue coming from Newts side is he makes roms for other devices. None the less he is an awesome dev who is highly respected. Give the devs some time. GB has only been cracked since around the 15th of this month.
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What does "infactuated" mean anyway? Is that a new word for fact-loving? Is is derogatory?

TheMavic said:
Feed the troll! I'm hungry!!
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Hey Nicholas Sack, cool it. Stick to plenty of fish.
"Funny thing about that is, is that people are becoming more and more vulnerable to today's cultures of "how to act" and "what to believe". I think the our generation and the ones prior are the last that know how to be independant. With that being said, I could honestly give a **** less about how people view me. If I agree, I agree. If I disagree, then I'll tell you to gtfo.
Life's a *****, then you die."
Bringing daily trolls since 1999.

[Q] Where are all the ICS Roms?

Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?

Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.

It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
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I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.

No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.

Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.

They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
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I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.

shiftr182 said:
I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
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thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
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I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
rawdikrik said:
I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
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I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.

The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.

rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
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Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...

VeNuM said:
Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
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Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.

Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit

arionfrost said:
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
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I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.

cordell12 said:
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
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Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.

Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?

rawdikrik said:
Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
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I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
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Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.

Atrix got CM9 ICS ROM!!

Yup, the Atrix 4G, the phone I was previously on, which my mom is currently using, just got a CM9 ICS ROM -_-;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445052
We need to start moving and trying to get ICS on the Nitro. Even the Rezound also got AOSP ICS port, albeit some things still borked.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-rezound-gets-pure-aosp-ice-cream-sandwich-port/
Despite all the talk of starting slow with some improvement ROMs and maybe a CM7, I hate to say this, but we need to get either CM9 or ICS, or at least some kind of progress towards it. Every phone out there, old and new, are getting ICS or CM9 infused into them, I don't believe we can't do so with ours. We will spark much more interest in people and members here and maybe even more Devs if we bring ICS to the table. What do you guys/gals think?

I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.

red_solo_cup said:
I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
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Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!

aquariuz23 said:
Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
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谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！

xudejiong said:
谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
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"Thank you for your efforts, I am very sure, will be able to make our p930 better!"

Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.

Heh , Dont have a nitro but i just synced CodeAurora ICS Port for MSM8660 (thanks to codeaurora for making life a bit easier for qcom products) , My first Task would be to port the kernel , Test it with CWM (before i brick my friend nitro)

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Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
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Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !

scott0 said:
Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
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Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I'll be here but i can't port anything to any device as i'm not that knowledgable i could bring stock heavily modified roms though.

AllstarE4 said:
Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.

It all sounds good to me. I'm new to all of this so I just don't know what to expect.
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I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
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Im very curious what Revolution is trying to bring to the table with his Domination HD Rom. More as the story progresses

WE should not even be thinking about sense/CM9 roms on here for awhile.

Quite frankly, I don't think CM will ever get around to making a ROM for this phone.

CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.

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CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
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Yup, we've known that for the past couple of weeks gerax thanks for spreading the word though. it's keeping the hopes alive for this phone

giving up on this device

im giving up on this optimus lte, im selling it, or trading for a galaxy nexus,
the dev community seems slow, and not any CUSTOM roms, just de-bloated stock roms, there isnt even a real promise of ICS, just a TBD... and i just feel i like the nexus overall better then this anyways, to much hassle over rom flashing and potential corrupting of the filesystem which cause's softbricks and me alot of headaches....
the nexus just seems so much more custom rom friendly

Thanks for letting us all know. I'll alert high command of the situation.

was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...

You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.

why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,

tnap1979 said:
why the need for bashing eh ?
does it make you feel better??
the point was to just state that this particular device was no longer of interest to me, and for some that have maybe read my issues with device and the fact that there is not many that are dev'ing for the device, that maybe some would reconsider getting one, not everyone needs 100% POSITIVE loyal fan love bs, some would love to hear and see the truth about issues and such as they wouldnt want to be stuck with something that would cause them problems in the future,
and for another " youve not contributed anything either " comment... for your personal information, im learning android coding, apps, and os information right now, ive been to college for video game design and development and web design... and its people like you that make me not want to contribute anything.. negative remarks, rude comments, and overall bashing of a person is not helpful, nice, or deserved...
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere... and stuff like this, makes me not want to contribute,...
anyways, point in case, im trading my lg-p930 tonight with my friend for his galaxy nexus, im sure ill be happier with it as ill be able to code for it and learn to dev alot easier with an official google branded device...
if you dont like this thread... DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR... DONT POST IN IT
BTW, I've been around in this forum for a while now, since early days of htc's and win mobile rom cooking, ive made some of my very own personal winmo roms for my htc diamond and previous oldies,
and i do know what im doing with this stuff as its been a sort of hobby for me to mess with stuff and not keep it stock, something always has to be messed with in my collection, and all i was basically trying to state was that i gave up on this device for learning to dev with, ok,
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Wow what a hypocrite,
so maybe in the future... YOU should think first before typing and learn that everyone starts somewhere
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I am learning java and will be moving on to the AP course next year. I have taken web page design and am also moving onto the AP course of that next year. Post count means nothing. But pointing out that fact that you put nearly no thought into your post exemplifies why this thread was started in the first place. So please keep your unhelpful thoughts to yourself.

really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings

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really.. explain how that was being a hypocrite??
the poster above my previous post stated that basically i should not post cuz i have not contributed, so to speak..
all i stated was that i was unhappy with it, and that i prefered to move onto something else, and to let others with the same possible ideas as me to see that maybe this is not the device for them... that is all...
anyways, this is going nowhere with anything anyways as you both seem to think so ignore it and remove yourself from the topic in your CP settings
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You said
was a smarta$$ reply really needed... typical tho, shoulda been expected from a newbie to the forum...
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Now why does my post count matter? I have been looking at this forum for years and just made my account to help contribute with the development for the Nitro/Optimus LTE because it is my first smartphone. This is my last post in this thread as it should probably be deleted by a mod anyway. Have fun with your Nexus, nobody will miss you.

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Same goes to you mister.
@tnap1979:
I'll wait for HTC X One and Samsung Skyrocket HD to come out then select one. I don't think I'll stick with Nitro even if ICS released tomorrow...I need my compass and Skullcandy earphones!

thanks [email protected] for some understanding...
if it wasnt for the fact the LG has put me thru so much BS, i might be happy with its hardware, but is just not as friendly as a HTC or Samsung....
htc's and samsung's i know i can recover from super easy, not have a bunch of hassle and be able to come and go quick and simple from any type of custom rom i want...
i still havent figured out if this device has a fastboot mode or anything other then recovery and download mode... ive wanted to find out how to mess with ics... but it refuses to let it boot, and where as the nexus or even my old atrix for that matter have ics, my friends gs2 has ics, and our device has been " promised " ics... but ive heard tell of lg not holding up there end of the bargain on some devices..
might also help if LG was a lil more DEV friendly with their devices as well...
HTC even gives the chance to unlock your bootloader just for that purpose
now i know that the lg p930 does have an unlocked boot loader, but the filesystem seems to not be user friendly to CWM
which makes it difficult for some work to get done if you happen to make mistakes in code or whatever

Bye bye
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8mileroad said:
You were mistaken in thinking anyone here cares. What does making this thread accomplish? Are you trying to make other people give up too? I just don't see the point in posting this. You're just going to get negative replies from Nitro HD fans. And it's not like you've contributed anything, either.
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You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.

LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
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I have a Bell Optimus LTE using kernelpanics rom and I have had no issues to speak of. So I'm confident that the CM9 release for the nitro (whenever it ends up releasing) will work on my phone.

I must say that LG's marketing is 2 blame in this poor situation. It's been 1M pieces sold in 2 month BUT it could be 3M to 5M if they have it in shops in india, china, europe and c.i.s.
P880 4X HD is gonna be available only in summer, way too long to wait. LG is digging hole for themselves, they give up market share to samsung Nexus and Note and HTC, & Xperia S
Nitro is a perfect piece of android, way better then Nexuses & other amoled s*1t and poor LG makes nothing to spread its popularity

i agree whole heartedly, the lg p930 is amazing hardware, with crap all for proper dev support and lg's track record does not help them in this matter at all...

well... this phone is as stable as an iphone !
coming from a galaxy kingdom " S S2 note" i can honestly say i always used to flash custom ROMs for a couple of hours but at the end of the day when i go to sleep i have the original one again for stability most of all
at least for the first time in so long i don't waste hours on flashing and restoring data and finding bugs and so on ..... till it end up restoring my backed up original rom and settings !
sure custom roms have their ups and downs but..... the phone is stable guys !
it doesn't have the crappy touchwiz or the need of lagfix ... etc
deploating fixed the lag and the battery..... what else do i want ?! since its not sense UI from HTC nor MIUI or even a worthy and heavy tweaking then i really cant see the need for Devs or to flash our phones !
but thats just me... someone enjoying one of the best screen there is on the rarest high end phone with a quality specs
BTW: anyone else tried playing MKV on this phone and galaxy note ?
trust me u will be surprised

is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.

LiViD said:
You've definitely proven that you have the attention span of a 12 year old. We all know about one developers' attempt to make ICS available, yet is unable to do so as he is nearly the only developer that works with LG devices. In other words we won't get an ICS ROM any time soon, as he is putting focus into other LG devices. Now if you also notice, he is working on a ROM for the AT&T Nitro HD, not the Bell Optimus LTE. Where does that leave us Bell users? Dumping the phone up on for-sale websites in attempt to recoup what we lost after LG screwed us with the release of the 4X. Yes, that's right, LG released their quad core phone with ICS on it... hmm...
Now you may love the IPS LCD that this phone offers. That's all fine and dandy, but when you have a $500 device in your hands, you'd expect to have some manufacturer and developer support behind it. One developer and a lack of initiative from LG to release the update has pissed off quite a few of us. We're already into March (Q2) and ICS has not been released as LG stated. As tn stated, LG devices and LG themselves are not friendly to the developer community.
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First off, how does me saying, basically, "stop *****ing and be patient," make me have any sort of lack of an attention span? We're all frustrated about this phone but most people who frequent here have seen enough *****ing. It's our own damn faults for buying this phone anyway. However, the phone goes a long way when you wipe the internal storage and let the battery break in. It's pretty snappy with GO Launcher and I get a full day of use now. The only problem is the lack of devs, but we've heard this a million times now. Just 21 more months to go... hopefully we'll get ICS by then.

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is your lg gets really HOT when using gps and car charging?
or playing game and car charging? the freaking phone get really hot and it would STOP charging! you know you will run out of battery cus the freaking phone stop charging when it' HOT!
so this lg is not reliable! i switched back to my old phone samsung skyrocket! no, my skyrocket never get hot like this.
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it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it

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it does ?! is everyone else noticed this heat thing ??
i am sorry i never noticed any heat from this phone ! and this is someone always setting on an airplane watching movies and playing games for hours and using a portable charger as well !
on the other hand..... i used to suffer from heat with the galaxy S2 the international version. sometimes it was so HOT i couldnt even make a phone call from it
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probably portable charger doesnt output that much power, that why it' doesnt overheat.
but when i using car charging, the LG does overheat. i also have samsung skyrocket, it never hot like that.

Am I alone? Or......

Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!

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Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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If you're bored then you aren't taking full advantage of all the incredible ICS ROMs available.
Take a walk on the wild side and flash a new one each week until someone ports Jelly Bean, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm sure if it can be done one of our Devs will do it but most of them are focused on getting source for ICS right now so they can improve on their existing ROMs and build new ones.

dw3bb10 said:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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I feel the same, and yes I flashed all ROM that are currently on first page of developers section. So yes I taste the full potentials of many ROMs but no single one satisfy me like to keep one as daily driver.

if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...

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if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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Ill definitely check them out! I need something new!

I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.

Ind3lible said:
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
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You realize there's like 2 roms so far for the SGS3, right?

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if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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PM me please I never ever used IRC want to try something new.
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Jelly has been out for like 4 days
if you want things that fast get a nexus

I found myself to be "bored" as well, but then I realized that the reason was because of the stability I was getting on Blazer 4.0 (four months of use!).
Still looking for my fix, I started testing out all the new offerings on here. I ruined one GS2, "unbricked" it, bought a white one, then stopped in the GS3 forum to see that PH was making a Blazer rom for that too.
So I picked up a GS3 to keep me busy in my down time.

You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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+1 why not create your own ROM instead of insulting all our devs here, why do you need to complain for something that you didnt even developed or created

Where in irc is everyone?
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freenode #ICS-DEV-E4GT

Bored seems to be a strong word. I don't think it's that the devs stopped working because there's still plenty going on. They are working hard with what they have but that's just the thing - they don't have a lot to work with. No source, nothing.
Things might be a bit more "exciting" for you if we had real access to Cyanogen or just AOSP in general but we don't. No offense to the devs involved in AOSP roms and the AOKP rom, but they are highly hacked in order to make them work decently on this phone.
For one we're dealing with the Exynos processor - not the S4. Also, Samsung sucked on their source release, from what I understand it was incomplete and will probably be the same with ICS. There's also the emergency call issue the CM team found which is why our phones not supported. Again, that's because of the incomplete source Samsung gave us citing 'proprietary code' being the reason it was incomplete.
So if you'd like to tell someone how bored your experience is with this phone - tell Samsung. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears around here.

I stopped coming back because way too many people complain about everything...oh well
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I'm only bored because I have found a stable daily driver.
Yes, it's exciting to have the latest, but ****s got to work.
Major props to chris41G and crew. I throw money at these guys as much as I can because without them, you would truly know what it is to be bored with your phone... Amazing stuff these guys are doing without source! :highfive:

i am still on aokp 37, even tho 40 is out i'm holding out for source. it's just sort of a pain to backup and reflash and set everything when i feel like it's so close to being "next level". 37 does have a few hiccups but it's been my daily driver since the day it was released.
with the gsiii out and jellybean as the new hotness, i really hope sammy doesn't hold out on us too much longer.
all that said, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene here at xda (not that "being bored" is major criticism at that) as it's really samsung holding everything up.

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You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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I don't have my "sensative hat" on, I was just stating that if he's not happy go elsewhere. I don't put my stuff on the level as other devs here anyway. I dont consider myself a dev. The things they do are amazing. I would've never released anything without them and their work. So at least so some consideration to them and word it more to Samsung if that's what he's complaining about.
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