Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
dw3bb10 said:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're bored then you aren't taking full advantage of all the incredible ICS ROMs available.
Take a walk on the wild side and flash a new one each week until someone ports Jelly Bean, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm sure if it can be done one of our Devs will do it but most of them are focused on getting source for ICS right now so they can improve on their existing ROMs and build new ones.
dw3bb10 said:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel the same, and yes I flashed all ROM that are currently on first page of developers section. So yes I taste the full potentials of many ROMs but no single one satisfy me like to keep one as daily driver.
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
chris41g said:
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ill definitely check them out! I need something new!
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
Ind3lible said:
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You realize there's like 2 roms so far for the SGS3, right?
chris41g said:
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PM me please I never ever used IRC want to try something new.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Jelly has been out for like 4 days
if you want things that fast get a nexus
I found myself to be "bored" as well, but then I realized that the reason was because of the stability I was getting on Blazer 4.0 (four months of use!).
Still looking for my fix, I started testing out all the new offerings on here. I ruined one GS2, "unbricked" it, bought a white one, then stopped in the GS3 forum to see that PH was making a Blazer rom for that too.
So I picked up a GS3 to keep me busy in my down time.
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
+1 why not create your own ROM instead of insulting all our devs here, why do you need to complain for something that you didnt even developed or created
Where in irc is everyone?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA Premium App
freenode #ICS-DEV-E4GT
Bored seems to be a strong word. I don't think it's that the devs stopped working because there's still plenty going on. They are working hard with what they have but that's just the thing - they don't have a lot to work with. No source, nothing.
Things might be a bit more "exciting" for you if we had real access to Cyanogen or just AOSP in general but we don't. No offense to the devs involved in AOSP roms and the AOKP rom, but they are highly hacked in order to make them work decently on this phone.
For one we're dealing with the Exynos processor - not the S4. Also, Samsung sucked on their source release, from what I understand it was incomplete and will probably be the same with ICS. There's also the emergency call issue the CM team found which is why our phones not supported. Again, that's because of the incomplete source Samsung gave us citing 'proprietary code' being the reason it was incomplete.
So if you'd like to tell someone how bored your experience is with this phone - tell Samsung. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears around here.
I stopped coming back because way too many people complain about everything...oh well
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
I'm only bored because I have found a stable daily driver.
Yes, it's exciting to have the latest, but ****s got to work.
Major props to chris41G and crew. I throw money at these guys as much as I can because without them, you would truly know what it is to be bored with your phone... Amazing stuff these guys are doing without source! :highfive:
i am still on aokp 37, even tho 40 is out i'm holding out for source. it's just sort of a pain to backup and reflash and set everything when i feel like it's so close to being "next level". 37 does have a few hiccups but it's been my daily driver since the day it was released.
with the gsiii out and jellybean as the new hotness, i really hope sammy doesn't hold out on us too much longer.
all that said, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene here at xda (not that "being bored" is major criticism at that) as it's really samsung holding everything up.
dazednconfused said:
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
cas8180 said:
Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have my "sensative hat" on, I was just stating that if he's not happy go elsewhere. I don't put my stuff on the level as other devs here anyway. I dont consider myself a dev. The things they do are amazing. I would've never released anything without them and their work. So at least so some consideration to them and word it more to Samsung if that's what he's complaining about.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
Related
Ok I just got this phone I had the EVO 4G/Then got the EVO 3D..well the Development was awesome with those 2...So I figured on how damn sweet this Epic Touch is..I figured the Development would be smokin..Ya i know phone only been out for a few weeks...I love this damn phone..Im done with HTC CRAP...I just hope that there are some Good Developer that comes over this way an make some good Roms for this Phone...Hey you people can responde i dont care hell if you want to ***** or talk crap go for it lol I dont care..I just like to see other peoples thoughts...
The development will come. I too came from the evo and was spoiled a little. I am really happy with how things are going though. So hang in there. Rumors have it there are top developers working on things right now... Hope they are right.
Also in all seriousness there are at least one of these threads per day that pop up lol.
Samsung Galaxy S II
theres no development like htc development. hell the HD2 is still poppin in the dev section. lol. shoulda did ur research on cdma sammy phones. nice drop off in rom/mods, but there is some. maybe by dec will see is nice bump in roms.
Atleast you posted in the right section...
Sent from my Epic touch 4G using xda premium
Ya i know how sammy phones are with updates etc..i just couldn't pass up the big ass screen an the specs of this thing ..so far im loving this phone..im running it stock an she dam quick alot quicker then the Evo 3D rooted...ya i will be patient on the development...
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Out of all the phones this one needs the least amount of development. But the Devs we got are great.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
R1ptide said:
Out of all the phones this one needs the least amount of development. But the Devs we got are great.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wouldn't go that far. Its. Nice. but needs some work!
malibu_23 said:
Wouldn't go that far. Its. Nice. but needs some work!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Needs the least compared to all the others. My phone doesn't have the signal/los issues others do.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
I think I'd have to somewhat Agree with R1ptide. The phone was so great I ran it stock for almost 2 weeks. And im a Modder and Flashaholic.
But really give the phone 3-5months minimum before complaining about dev's =)
We have some awesome developers already, and they're doing great work. Heck we have guys that don't even own the phone building kernels, and removing CIQ for us. I am pretty confident that you will have a fine selection of kernels, ROMs, and themes to pick from over time.
Lets spend more time encouraging and praising the guys and gals we do have working hard for us, and giving up their own time... instead of complaining about "this isn't nearly as good as EVO development".
I came from GSM att atrix slow development but I'm sure it will pick up. Atrix is kinda dead because people are rude just wait and it will pick up
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App
What do you need developed? Cm and miui will take a while due to
Cdma and Wimax. We have some awesome devs. I know Bubby from the og epic and he does amazing stuff, and absolutzero has been working on his ROM getting that all good, viper just got
an et too. I think we are just fine. Just request what features you want.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
What's wrong with trying to learn to do some things on your own? All these Devs had to start somewhere. So why wait around and complain? Sure, coding may be a big leap, but things like changing most graphics isn't that difficult. Take the time, do a little research and before long you won't be reliant upon others. Plus you'll have the satisfaction of your phone being Your phone.
.....
Vegasden said:
What's wrong with trying to learn to do some things on your own? All these Devs had to start somewhere. So why wait around and complain? Sure, coding may be a big leap, but things like changing most graphics isn't that difficult. Take the time, do a little research and before long you won't be reliant upon others. Plus you'll have the satisfaction of your phone being Your phone.
.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any idea where the 'interested' can find some groundwork tutorials to learn rom building?
ravizzle said:
What do you need developed? Cm and miui will take a while due to
Cdma and Wimax. We have some awesome devs. I know Bubby from the og epic and he does amazing stuff, and absolutzero has been working on his ROM getting that all good, viper just got
an et too. I think we are just fine. Just request what features you want.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All I really want is a AOSP rom, doesn't necessarily need to be CM7 but I figured if anyone can do it it will be their team first, but now that ICS SDK is out and source code probably soon I have my doubts that it will come at all to this phone.
.........................................
Hello everyone.
Im a HTC Faithful and currently using an Evo 4g still. This phone is starting to show its age and im thinking of picking up a Epic Touch.
But looking at the dev section, it doesnt seem that there are that many roms in progress, let alone any updated ICS roms. There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on.
Im just wondering where all the ICS roms are. If i moved over, id prob want to stick to ICS.
Anyone move from Evo to Epic Touch and feel that there are enough roms? That its being supported as much as other HTC phones?
Any input?
Depends. The Stock Touchwiz Roms from samsung has plenty of development here. The AOSP side we just barely got a CM7/KANG that has quite a few bugs. For some those bugs arent a problem, but for me it didnt pass as a daily driver.
Also the whole Clockworkmod-fused-with-the-kernel/rom on this phone will give you a headache if this is your first time rooting a Samsung Phone.
It would be my first Samsung rooting. I have looked over the instructions and saw it's somewhat different from HTC style, but nothing I can't handle.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
No where
I see that no one has answered your main question...There are no ICS ROMs available as of right now...The deves are creating a base for it so when its possible to create one, they can implment it faster.
Uhhh. I guess the dev's are working on them.
I'd be stoked if you can work faster than they can, or pay them to work faster...
But it's not like changing a battery, there's a lot of work that goes into cooking a ROM.
They want to get CM7 complete and stable as a base to use for other Aosp roms. Samsung's official ICS for our device will have touchwiz and I think 95% of us don't want that. We need Aosp roms and kernels nailed down before we progress any further. Once the devs have a stable functional base to work from other doors will open. It takes time.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
shiftr182 said:
I personally think samsung is easier when it comes to rooting, etc. I came from an evo 3d, and that was kind of a headache, especially themeing because of the .m10 files that it had. I kinda lean toward samsung though, if you cant tell by my sig.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There may not be ICS but this is still a hell of a phone. In the market oyher than the Google phone just coming out this is the top of the line. I came from an Evo and I love it
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA App
I think its Samsung vs HTC thing
rawdikrik said:
I'm not knocking the devs or anything. I understand how ROMs work and have built my own in the past.
I guess I'm just surprised that such a popular device doesn't have any devs working on ics while ancient devices like the Evo and HD2 have multiple roms.
What matters the most to me are phones that have a large modder base. I semi expected to see this place packed with devs and other crazy stuff. Caught me off guard that it's quieter in here then in the Evo section.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think its more because Samsung is not releasing the source code, once they put it out our esteemed devs will bring ICS very fast. HTC is very fast about everything giving out source, update etc. I am just waiting for HTC to come with some phone which is a little bit better in specs and I am getting that. Samsung phones just looks beatifull. I want a phone that works as good and is backed up by support from the Manufacturer.
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Honestly the new Touchwiz isn't that bad. The only people making a big fat fuss over it seem to be previous HTC owners. Let me tell you, sense sucks big fat donkey balls compared to Touchwiz. I was a Go Launcher devotee prior to owning the Epic Touch. Touchwiz has proved to be ok for me.
I would still be completely happy with my day one purchase of Epic Touch even if we don't end up getting ICS until mid next year, gingerbread on this thing still flies compared to every other phone out there.
Furthermore, the OG Epic had a slow but steady dev community. Half the roms I flashed on the evo ended up being kangs or just plain crappy old skins. There were a few really good ones, salvagemod was the best vanilla AOSP. But really, the OG Epic community put out some real quality stuff, albeit at a slower pace.
Honest answer: jump in, the water is fine. Yeah, ICS will be quite nice once we get it, but in the meantime, there isn't a better phone you can get on sprint than the Epic touch.
rawdikrik said:
thank you for the helpful post. I'm glad that someone felt the sense pain with me.
So... Until sprint comes out with a superphone, would you recommend just getting this phone on CL and moving from the Evo?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
VeNuM said:
Develepors here ARE working on ICS. Its all over these boards. There are A LOT of roms being produced. I'm not sure how you missed that... this IS a superphone. I'm not sure how you missed that either. This phone is MUCH simpler to work with than HTC brands. Since you've built roms before, open up a ET4G rom and compare it to the evo4g. You will see what I speak of...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Literally was writing this verbatim! LOL. I'm guessing OP posted without looking anywhere but the EVO forum and this Q and A section or the dozens of ICS threads would have reached out and smacked him in the eye.
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
arionfrost said:
The fact is the Evo is no longer that great of a phone. It's nowhere near the same league of phone that the GS2 is, ICS withstanding.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I definitely agree with you in that the Evo is old news. Which is why I'm considering the upgrade to begin with. It is showing it's age more and more.
Thank you for your input.
cordell12 said:
Coming from HTC HeroC > LG Optimus S > HTC Evo 4G > HTC Evo 3D to this I was a bit shocked to not see as many devs picking the device up as well. I think everyone is missing what OP is saying and taking it as a bash, it is a surprise that more devs are not migrating towards the E4GT when this is obviously sprint best device to date. This device has the potential to be the next Evo 4G, development wise. It is crazy fast/smooth out of the box. It is also the easiest device I have rooted to date. When I left the Evo 3D for this near launch I did so for the screen size and the Exynos Processor, not for development. Even if no AOSP roms were to come to the device, one of the modified stock roms with Go Launcher on it is all I really need, though I want CM9, lol. That said we now have CM7 in the works, and CM9 will follow soon. Our AOSP devs are leaning more daily, and taking a lot of heat for what they are doing. Even if they are getting help from _______ (fill in blank), they are still taking all they are getting and putting it together for a awesome AOSP type rom. Who else is doing that for the device? Exactly!
But yet some still bash and call them Kang Bangers
I say go for it, find a deal on CL or FleaBay and jump. You will not be disappointed one bit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Does Sammy not release source code? Aren't they legally required to do this?
rawdikrik said:
Considering how Nice and respectful I have been on this thread, I'm glad that you can understand EXACTLY where I'm coming from. Thank you for the information.
I'm not here to knock sgs2 nor am ragging on the hard working devs. I'm just staying a fact: there aren't very many different kinds of roms here.
And if you look in the Dev section, there are no ics roms to flash. No alphas. No betas. Nothing. I'm sure people are working on it... But there are none there RIGHT NOW.
Some of you need to chill out. I wasn't insulting you or your mom. I was asking a few questions and making an observation. Lighten up trolls.
I'll be picking up one of these this weekend, and aside from rooting and flashing calk's build (that man is amazing), I'm going to be teaching myself how Sammy does it's roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really don't see anyone trolling you here. Looks like a pretty tame thread to me. My comment was probably the "harshest"if you could call it that. My main point was that you stated that no one was working on ICS and I was pointing out that it would be extremely difficult to miss the fact that several devs are in fact working on ICS, MIUI, CM7+9, AOSP and more TW custom ROM's.
I don't think any of us disagree that we wish there we more things going on, but I also think people forget that the EVO dev process was not overnight. Go back to the first EVO posts and you can see that it was several weeks from release before the customization started and a couple months before things really got going. And when the EVO came out, there was zero worthy competition. Pretty much everyone jumped on the EVO train.
I don't think that anyone here is upset by your post, but I do think it discounts the efforts that have been going on for well over a month to get ICS and the other goods to this device.
"There was even a nice leak of the SGS2 ICS Rom and that hasnt been worked on." I think that statement was the one that bothered me because it clearly showed that you were making assumptions without doing any research. And we have enough people in this forum doing plenty of that already. In fact, I have never seen more dev cooperation on any other device. Take a look at the ICS thread from the beginning and you'll see some amazing teamwork. Unfortunately derailed by demanding and entitled community members and leeches, but still alive and kicking in IRC and private spaces.
But I digress, the main point, you probably wouldn't be disappointed by picking up this phone. IMO, it is the best out right now and a quick look around will show you that the number of ROMs is about to hit a stride. The dates of release can show you that new work has just arrived and its beginning to look a lot like EVO-town in here.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Coming from the Evo 4G and writing guides and helping people on those forums for a while, I bought an E4GT.
Compared to the Evo just development wise on XDA, there aren't as many ROMs or as much development going on.
But phone wise, its a great phone and a great upgrade from the Evo 4G. Personally I use Launcher Pro/ADW so slapping that over TouchWiz is great.
Rooting is simple. There are auto roots going on and not as much of a pain as the Evo 4G. Also flashing things like Radios, ROMs, etc are faster as well because of the difference in phone speed and boot speed.
As for ICS, there was something in the works, but I think there hasn't been any much development on it.
Just checked out the Skyrocket forum and saw that Evervolv is working on an ICS rom for their device. Looks like its an alpha build but will get better everyday. Not sure what it would take to get over to our device but it must mean that ICS is on the horizon
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
dude there is a few threads on this already
Yeah I just saw that lol
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
ICS Alpha rom from the Skyrocket section
here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484408 i think this should gets out Devs working
Our devs are working. Not sure what forum you have been looking at
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
manuelsua312 said:
here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484408 i think this should gets out Devs working
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Almost all of the devs are waiting for Samsung to release officially just like they have for the last 3 months.
So all the updates lately came from thin air?
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
avarize said:
Our devs are working. Not sure what forum you have been looking at
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Must've been looking in the iPhone Forum.....
avarize said:
So all the updates lately came from thin air?
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think he is referring to ICS development because ICS is in the topic title.
Simply before Xboarder (a skyrocket dev) all devs had been waiting for Samsung release. I think Xboarder is going to release source soon and I imagine this will mean others will fix up alot of things and we will begin to see a bunch of ICS roms. CM9 appears to be held up until a samsung release which they can use to get everything working 100%. The reality is without xboarder nobody would be working on ICS because Samsung has a bunch of ICS updates coming soon and this device is somewhere in line for that set of release. Nobody wanted to work on something that is going to be released officially in a few months and I respect that. However, I have the utmost respect for xboarder doing something that he might get beat to by Samsung just because he wants to do it and learn. Thats why he is the only dev ive donated to, aside from the fact that he had had progress on the Amaze ICS port which showed he had a track record at ICS ports.
jim93 said:
I think he is referring to ICS development because ICS is in the topic title.
Simply before Xboarder (a skyrocket dev) all devs had been waiting for Samsung release. I think Xboarder is going to release source soon and I imagine this will mean others will fix up alot of things and we will begin to see a bunch of ICS roms. CM9 appears to be held up until a samsung release which they can use to get everything working 100%. The reality is without xboarder nobody would be working on ICS because Samsung has a bunch of ICS updates coming soon and this device is somewhere in line for that set of release. Nobody wanted to work on something that is going to be released officially in a few months and I respect that. However, I have the utmost respect for xboarder doing something that he might get beat to by Samsung just because he wants to do it and learn. Thats why he is the only dev ive donated to, aside from the fact that he had had progress on the Amaze ICS port which showed he had a track record at ICS ports.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually this is incorrect. I actually had my working version of ICS out about 5 minutes before xboarder made his source publicly available using the msm8660_surf device tree provided by qualcomm here.
jomeister15 said:
Actually this is incorrect. I actually had my working version of ICS out about 5 minutes before xboarder made his source publicly available using the msm8660_surf device tree provided by qualcomm here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember, but this was after he posted the video of the booted version of ICS and you guys flamed him for not releasing source. Then posted source and I think only topprospect bother to thank for releasing.
jim93 said:
I remember, but this was after he posted the video of the booted version of ICS and you guys flamed him for not releasing source. Then posted source and I think only topprospect bother to thank for releasing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There about a dozen incorrect statements in this quote, but I'm honestly too tired of all this xboarder crap to even care. Just next time get your facts straight before claiming something that isn't true and taking away from all the hard work I've put into my build.
ok guys..let me get this straight from the timeline ive seen
msm8660 source was posted somewhere
xboarder gets ics working on our phone
some other guys gets it working too
xboarder posts preview
some other guys gets mad, flames
...blahblah
seriously, will you all grow up? what does it matter? all that matters is that there are new roms, dont get mad because you can't dev or you're a lil slower..just shut up already-.-
im sick and tired of all the flaming in this section..
AznDud333 said:
ok guys..let me get this straight from the timeline ive seen
msm8660 source was posted somewhere
xboarder gets ics working on our phone
some other guys gets it working too
xboarder posts preview
some other guys gets mad, flames
...blahblah
seriously, will you all grow up? what does it matter? all that matters is that there are new roms, dont get mad because you can't dev or you're a lil slower..just shut up already-.-
im sick and tired of all the flaming in this section..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats the way I remember it but I guess you have your facts wrong.
why dont we just end confersation guys i dont want another argument i all ready got my tag lost becuase of this ics
AznDud333 said:
ok guys..let me get this straight from the timeline ive seen
msm8660 source was posted somewhere
xboarder gets ics working on our phone
some other guys gets it working too
xboarder posts preview
some other guys gets mad, flames
...blahblah
seriously, will you all grow up? what does it matter? all that matters is that there are new roms, dont get mad because you can't dev or you're a lil slower..just shut up already-.-
im sick and tired of all the flaming in this section..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree.
You people who bicker and fight over the internet should just change your names to Apple and Samsung...suing eachother because of stupid things like they both have the same default brightness setting on their devices...
Instead of getting all bent out of shape over other people, be proud of your own damn work and contribute to the community rather than degrade it with your unbelievable jealousy and immaturity.
And if I understand correctly xboarder is 16..if you guys are any older than that you should be ashamed of yourselves. Its people like you that hamper and retard development and destroy innovation. He doesn't want any part of your nonsense and is developing elsewhere. and I hope he develops the only working ICS build and gets all the credit for it.
immature dumbasses...go sulk in the gutters of the internet.
zander21510 said:
I agree.
You people who bicker and fight over the internet should just change your names to Apple and Samsung...suing eachother because of stupid things like they both have the same default brightness setting on their devices...
Instead of getting all bent out of shape over other people, be proud of your own damn work and contribute to the community rather than degrade it with your unbelievable jealousy and immaturity.
And if I understand correctly xboarder is 16..if you guys are any older than that you should be ashamed of yourselves. Its people like you that hamper and retard development and destroy innovation. He doesn't want any part of your nonsense and is developing elsewhere. and I hope he develops the only working ICS build and gets all the credit for it.
immature dumbasses...go sulk in the gutters of the internet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
fawk yeah. Such ******ry goes on in this forum i swear. Sometimes I wish I hadn't bought the GS2.
Instead of crap talking and starting drama, if you see something similar to what you're doing come out, make yours better and with more appeal.
Feels like the retarded politician flaming back and forth
They did the same crap to xboarder in the g2x fourm and chased him out and he wound up moving over to the sensation. Stupid because he was the first to root the g2x with the GB update. His stock roms were the most stable of all the stock roms for a 16 year old kid he is really smart and alot of people here could lear a thing or two from him.
I myself cant contribute in the development the way I would like right now because I simply dont have the time to leard so I donate when I can and that is how I make my contributions.
By the way the g2x actually has a ICS rom working really good it is eaglesblood based off cm9. I am using it and it kicks ass I hear that Eaglesblood is coming to the sgs2 I cant wait he is another really good dev. We just gotta be patient.
How many phones has this xboarder had lol. I remember him from the G2 forums as well... Hope these are donated phones and not all purchased by you.
I trade alot what can i say
G2-htc sensation-g2x-htc sensation again-both htc amaze, sgs2 currently
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
Good day!
I am new to this site so thanks for being here!
I was wondering what are people's Favourite RoMs are at this point?
I've tried a few and am really excite about these custom Roms but can't decide what and why I like each one. The WoW factor is huge right now. I like the Inc3ption V1 which was my first. Then I tried V2 which is my fav so far I think? Sorry to 'The Collective' but I changed my Bootanimation...I found one from google I was trying to change on my Rooted Stock GB but was never able to find a way to use the bootanimation.zip. Thanks to Dman for putting the custom boots in his rom! The animation I used was the android guy pissing on the apple symbol! Classic!!!!
I've just installed ItsMeBdon stock ICS and am happy about it as well!!!
I can't seem to find the 'Thanks' buttons? Am I so new I can't do it yet?
I am a Hack implementer for most devices I own and have never once Bricked a device. Would love to learn to do the hacks myself but with family life hard to find time.
I am here to test and make my device MINE so I am here to help where ever I can
I just wanted to say hi and thank everyone for their long hours of pure pleasure! Trying at times but still fun in our eyes!
PeACe
Scot
thescot33 said:
Good day!
I am new to this site so thanks for being here!
I was wondering what are people's Favourite RoMs are at this point?
I've tried a few and am really excite about these custom Roms but can't decide what and why I like each one. The WoW factor is huge right now. I like the Inc3ption V1 which was my first. Then I tried V2 which is my fav so far I think? Sorry to 'The Collective' but I changed my Bootanimation...I found one from google I was trying to change on my Rooted Stock GB but was never able to find a way to use the bootanimation.zip. Thanks to Dman for putting the custom boots in his rom! The animation I used was the android guy pissing on the apple symbol! Classic!!!!
I've just installed ItsMeBdon stock ICS and am happy about it as well!!!
I can't seem to find the 'Thanks' buttons? Am I so new I can't do it yet?
I am a Hack implementer for most devices I own and have never once Bricked a device. Would love to learn to do the hacks myself but with family life hard to find time.
I am here to test and make my device MINE so I am here to help where ever I can
I just wanted to say hi and thank everyone for their long hours of pure pleasure! Trying at times but still fun in our eyes!
PeACe
Scot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why did you open a new topic to this question? Here is what you looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621350
I've read the thread and it's nice BUT as I am a new member I am unable to post to the Forum until I am a trusted user. So I felt I was right to not post anywhere else except a new thread?
Sorry if I offended or broke any rules???
While I have your attention, Which Rom are you running?
Been playing with roms all day. I really like JayJay ICS and most likely staying with it. I REALLY like the RAM usage on Inc3ption v2 as I can get it down to under 150mb?
Again, If I am doing something wrong, Please let me know where else I should be asking my questions.
Hope all is well!
PeACe
Don't worry about it !
I'm currently using lite ROM with the custom kernel and it works fine but i think we're all waiting for dman to release his aosp/aokp jb build
Sent from my SGH-I927 using xda app-developers app
My favorite so far has been jayjayjoker's Krionz rom as far as ICS, and I beleive I'm on a stock kernel. I've not been able to figure out the inability to control processor speeds though when using any ICS rom and kernel currently available. I can't be certain if the governors have any affect, and i can not lower the clock manually below 768mhz. I'm trying to go back because of this, but I'd say my current favorite for Gingerbread is the Osimood rom.
My favorite is my ROM but when dman's new ROM comes its gonna be my choice.
Sent from my SGH-I927 using xda premium
I have Inc3ption running right meow because it's the only rom I completely setup and have a backup of. I've been playing around today withdman's alpha's as well. Got them installed and doin' what they do but still am unable to give feedback as I can't over in that section yet. Very interested in those developments!
Which build are you most excited for cm9 or aosp?
Thanks again to everyone out there for bringing joy to my day! My wife is really hating me playing with my phone all day instead of doing our laundry or putting up that tile! I'd much rather try and brick my phone! XD
7 more posts and I hit 10! does that I mean I xan then post in the development sec?
I guess it's only 6 with this one! XD
thescot33 said:
I have Inc3ption running right meow because it's the only rom I completely setup and have a backup of. I've been playing around today withdman's alpha's as well. Got them installed and doin' what they do but still am unable to give feedback as I can't over in that section yet. Very interested in those developments!
Which build are you most excited for cm9 or aosp?
Thanks again to everyone out there for bringing joy to my day! My wife is really hating me playing with my phone all day instead of doing our laundry or putting up that tile! I'd much rather try and brick my phone! XD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i like the color on CM9 more but the thing is there very buggy right now so i really dont know which i like more
Sent from my SGH-I927 using xda premium
thescot33 said:
7 more posts and I hit 10! does that I mean I xan then post in the development sec?
I guess it's only 6 with this one! XD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go into the Meet and Greet sticky and introduce your self! talk to people and get to know these good folks here. we're all here as a community helping each other! don't forget to give thanks where it's due and sometimes donate to the devs that put their time and effort creating these roms for us! without them, our phones would be imprisoned to the carriers we use. Out of all the device forums I have seen, XDA Developers is by far the most informative and the people here make to feel right at home, even tho we live all over the world!
I'm definitely waiting for dman's cm9 myself but jokers rom is what I'm running with now and its cool stuff. I think I'm going to try a hand at theming for cm9... touchwiz is kind of gross.
Sent from my SGH-I927 using xda premium
I am liking the look and feel of cm9. Think I'm gonna setup JayJay ICS today and make sure I have a backup of it as well...I like that I can add a custom bootanimations.zip or shoud I say sanim.zip for Inc3ption v2. When I removed the bootanimation.zip and sanim.zip v2 has a real cool plain android letters boot??? I can't seem to copy and paste it to JayJay by replacing the qmg's? It just shows Samsung Galaxy SII. Not really sure why it wont work, does it have something to do with using GB .qmg's on ICS?
Anyways, l'm OCD with checking for a new build for cm9 and can't wait to see Alpha-5 get past the boot...Not sure what I'm really doing but I even tried loading in the lite kernel after the booting locked and it didn't even show the boot animatin. It just skipped it all together and was flashing the time in the top right corner of the screen before it woud loop with the rumble.
Thanks again everyone for the advice, really looking forward to being able to post to more places soon.
PeACe
Testing out my sig on xda's app...makin' sure dman gets his credit!
Sent from my Inc3ption v2 i927R using xda-developers app
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g
Each & Every Day were are Growing!
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421
--
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
thistimearound said:
Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.
Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
The DragonTJH said:
Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.
kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
nickespi said:
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
genaro12543 said:
If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
Edit*
One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
Edit*
One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
jokersax11 said:
no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
---------- Post added at 07:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:03 PM ----------
genaro12543 said:
Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
nickespi said:
Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
---------- Post added at 07:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:03 PM ----------
Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
Sent from my LG-LS970 using xda app-developers app