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Atrix got CM9 ICS ROM!!

Yup, the Atrix 4G, the phone I was previously on, which my mom is currently using, just got a CM9 ICS ROM -_-;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445052
We need to start moving and trying to get ICS on the Nitro. Even the Rezound also got AOSP ICS port, albeit some things still borked.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-rezound-gets-pure-aosp-ice-cream-sandwich-port/
Despite all the talk of starting slow with some improvement ROMs and maybe a CM7, I hate to say this, but we need to get either CM9 or ICS, or at least some kind of progress towards it. Every phone out there, old and new, are getting ICS or CM9 infused into them, I don't believe we can't do so with ours. We will spark much more interest in people and members here and maybe even more Devs if we bring ICS to the table. What do you guys/gals think?

I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.

red_solo_cup said:
I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
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Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!

aquariuz23 said:
Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
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谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！

xudejiong said:
谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
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"Thank you for your efforts, I am very sure, will be able to make our p930 better!"

Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.

Heh , Dont have a nitro but i just synced CodeAurora ICS Port for MSM8660 (thanks to codeaurora for making life a bit easier for qcom products) , My first Task would be to port the kernel , Test it with CWM (before i brick my friend nitro)

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Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
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Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !

scott0 said:
Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
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Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I'll be here but i can't port anything to any device as i'm not that knowledgable i could bring stock heavily modified roms though.

AllstarE4 said:
Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.

It all sounds good to me. I'm new to all of this so I just don't know what to expect.
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scott0 said:
I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
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Im very curious what Revolution is trying to bring to the table with his Domination HD Rom. More as the story progresses

WE should not even be thinking about sense/CM9 roms on here for awhile.

Quite frankly, I don't think CM will ever get around to making a ROM for this phone.

CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.

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CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
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Yup, we've known that for the past couple of weeks gerax thanks for spreading the word though. it's keeping the hopes alive for this phone

***OFFICIAL ICS DISCUSSION/SPECULATION THREAD - ONLY HERE***

This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!

reinbeau said:
This is the ONLY thread that will be allowed for ICS discussion, all others will be locked/deleted, and persistent abusers will earn an infraction or a ban - I'd rather not do that!
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Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene

I think we should storm T-Mobile's headquarters Matrix-style to get the source code, then hand it to the very capable developers here to finish it in a day or two. What say you?

Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.

There is only one issue at hand:
The T989 doesn't have ICS/Samsung source code.

anomy13 said:
Good idea... but I think the topic "ICS" is too general. How would we be able keep track of what the issue at hand is? Different groups of people could be talking about different things here at the same time.. if we keep it to "ONE" official forum for ICS. And it would just end up for a lot of us to do page searching.
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They post it in the proper Q&A section.

eugene373 said:
Thank God! I love you man ( As a MOD I mean )
We'll get ICS when we get it, simple as that!
~Eugene
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What he said!

Come on Tmobile things have seem to been heating up with ICS ?!

Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755

jmercil said:
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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LMFAO

Samsung + Tmobile + updates = Buy a new phone. Sorry, but this has always been an issue everyone always talked about with Sammy and T-Mobile. Things never change. They even posted it on FB like we are awesome, your carrier Blows! Have a nice day.

jmercil said:
Lollin! Typical T-Mobile fashion. Enjoy
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755
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Came here to post this (Samsung just tweeted and FB'd it). Y'all are fast!
Well, this is very depressing. I guess I'll be hopping on the SIII bandwagon soon.
As happy as I am with the T989 on Gingerbread, I want the latest and greatest. T-mobile has failed me once again. All of this Galaxy S II ICS news from other carriers, the ICS update for the S II for Tmo UK users, and now we get a message "in the coming months". That's sort of... heartbreaking to say the least.

Would source from skyrocket ics be enough for us to get decent battery life from a port ?

gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !

A response from Tmobile

Time to spam Telus website.
- taz b.

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Exactly what I thought. They arent going to tell use until they push out the update. Apple does a somewhat similar few days notice.
It is annoying on both ends. Tmobile should realize they arent Apple and a software update isnt the press equivalent of realizing a new phone.

I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them

tigerz0202 said:
I've already gave up on this phone getting an official update , already accepted that ill have to get another phone so i will choose wisely next time, honestly the only thing that keeps me with T-Mobile is wi-fi calling if they ever stop that then I see no reason to stay with them
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You sir have a point.

hazard99 said:
gawd ........ some how I thought them releasing source as fast as they did would change how they do things. I think its time we start jumping their a*ses again
If we dont show support for the galaxy s3 maybe they will pull their heads out of their butts.
I freakin love the phone but I'm tired of all they stupid excuses. You can still release source or some crap.
And I would love to have someone with a lot more followers tweet this !
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Probably would be useless, the small number of users that actually know of or care about an update is nothing compared to the amount of people that just buy a phone because it looks nice or has a big screen. Most customers are oblivious. Most it would do is start a small trending topic and then it would fizzle like KONY 2012. Next thing you know your running around in public naked doing the "5 knuck backhand no drop ins". Updates are worthless to carriers usually unless its more of a Dev phone like the nexus. Which the SGS2 is not. Well atleast T-Mobile version. Money is in the contract! Hook line and sinker.
But what do I know? Nothing but what I have seen with my last three devices on T-Mobile. I don't think the SGS3 is going to be any different, ship the phone. Get the money. Rinse and repeat.
Thankfully there is a sweet dev community that can work wonders Modding and porting ROMs but I can even see now certain communities are fading out because of Vultures and demanding users plying updates updates updates. We should all chill and just enjoy what we have and work with it. Last thing you want is more talented Devs and Themers leaving a device you own because patience is not in our vocabulary. ICS will or will not come...device has only been out for several months. Look at the SGH-T959 community, strong and mad ROMs. Stuff takes time. This is a hobby for people, hobby! Something people like. Whoaaaa...way off topic. I'll shut up now. Sorry for the Opinionated rant.
Carry on.
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Am I alone? Or......

Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!

dw3bb10 said:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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If you're bored then you aren't taking full advantage of all the incredible ICS ROMs available.
Take a walk on the wild side and flash a new one each week until someone ports Jelly Bean, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm sure if it can be done one of our Devs will do it but most of them are focused on getting source for ICS right now so they can improve on their existing ROMs and build new ones.

dw3bb10 said:
Anyone else BORED?! I wanted this phone so bad, and I was extremely excited when I first got it in December. Its still a beast of a phone, but the flashaholic in me is BORED! (Especially coming from an EVO 4G) Am I alone in this?! When AOKP/CM9 first arrived it was exciting, but the TW ICS leaks got old pretty fast. And who wants ICS anymore with the arrival of Jelly Bean! It just seems as if everything has slowed down CONSIDERABLY....and I get why....it just sucks!
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I feel the same, and yes I flashed all ROM that are currently on first page of developers section. So yes I taste the full potentials of many ROMs but no single one satisfy me like to keep one as daily driver.

if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...

chris41g said:
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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Ill definitely check them out! I need something new!

I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.

Ind3lible said:
I feel the same way. Thinking of just getting the SGS3 since I still have an upgrade left.
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You realize there's like 2 roms so far for the SGS3, right?

chris41g said:
if youre bored you havent flashed my roms.. i make new builds daily.. i just dont post them here.. they change too much.. you can find me on irc, or look around and i bet you can find the roms...
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PM me please I never ever used IRC want to try something new.
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Jelly has been out for like 4 days
if you want things that fast get a nexus

I found myself to be "bored" as well, but then I realized that the reason was because of the stability I was getting on Blazer 4.0 (four months of use!).
Still looking for my fix, I started testing out all the new offerings on here. I ruined one GS2, "unbricked" it, bought a white one, then stopped in the GS3 forum to see that PH was making a Blazer rom for that too.
So I picked up a GS3 to keep me busy in my down time.

You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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+1 why not create your own ROM instead of insulting all our devs here, why do you need to complain for something that you didnt even developed or created

Where in irc is everyone?
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freenode #ICS-DEV-E4GT

Bored seems to be a strong word. I don't think it's that the devs stopped working because there's still plenty going on. They are working hard with what they have but that's just the thing - they don't have a lot to work with. No source, nothing.
Things might be a bit more "exciting" for you if we had real access to Cyanogen or just AOSP in general but we don't. No offense to the devs involved in AOSP roms and the AOKP rom, but they are highly hacked in order to make them work decently on this phone.
For one we're dealing with the Exynos processor - not the S4. Also, Samsung sucked on their source release, from what I understand it was incomplete and will probably be the same with ICS. There's also the emergency call issue the CM team found which is why our phones not supported. Again, that's because of the incomplete source Samsung gave us citing 'proprietary code' being the reason it was incomplete.
So if you'd like to tell someone how bored your experience is with this phone - tell Samsung. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears around here.

I stopped coming back because way too many people complain about everything...oh well
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I'm only bored because I have found a stable daily driver.
Yes, it's exciting to have the latest, but ****s got to work.
Major props to chris41G and crew. I throw money at these guys as much as I can because without them, you would truly know what it is to be bored with your phone... Amazing stuff these guys are doing without source! :highfive:

i am still on aokp 37, even tho 40 is out i'm holding out for source. it's just sort of a pain to backup and reflash and set everything when i feel like it's so close to being "next level". 37 does have a few hiccups but it's been my daily driver since the day it was released.
with the gsiii out and jellybean as the new hotness, i really hope sammy doesn't hold out on us too much longer.
all that said, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene here at xda (not that "being bored" is major criticism at that) as it's really samsung holding everything up.

dazednconfused said:
You could probably go back to your Evo and start having fun again since our work is so boring over here.
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Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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cas8180 said:
Come on dazed don't put on your sensitive hat. Dude didn't mean it as an insult we all love your work. And appreciate just like all the other devs. I think a lot of his point is really contributed to how the leaks have just slowed down. And how jb is basically out now and we still don't have the official ics update and source for our phone. I feel the same way and I am a flashaholic too. But I am confident once we do get out update plus source we are really gonna see a whole new world open for our device. It's just patients
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I don't have my "sensative hat" on, I was just stating that if he's not happy go elsewhere. I don't put my stuff on the level as other devs here anyway. I dont consider myself a dev. The things they do are amazing. I would've never released anything without them and their work. So at least so some consideration to them and word it more to Samsung if that's what he's complaining about.
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any devs into GLIDE CM 10???

the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...

jamez.tankh said:
the long waited tegra 2 ics is now available so means the drivers to put HWA into function is available too...is it mean that a full working CM10 (or jellybean) rom will be developed soon seems all the crucial drivers are available now...
but 1 thing i found that there are less strong or experienced developers are using the glide as their phone and cause us have less power custom roms and kernels...
maybe we need to promote our phone to those optimus 2x and galaxy r developers...they have strong devs there...cause the devs were using those phone which is much popular and familiar than the glide, but they have lower hardware spec, no keyboard and with 512 only ram...and the devs did a good job on optimized them...
i believe our phone will be freaking STRONG if there are numbers of devs willing to optimized it...
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Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.

dudejb said:
Yes but people are usually interested in the hardware they have purchased. So how do you get someone who does not have the hardware interested in helping us out? Please recall even DMan had someone lone him a phone for him to help out. The glide is a great phone but unfortunately has not sold as much, as other popular phones.
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maybe we can gift a GLIDE to devs like owain94 from optimus 2x or arcee...they are strong devs and they have a real good base knowledge on tegra 2 device...

We have dman workng on a rom as we speak... this should of been posted in the general section to btw

I suspect he is but has dman said he is working on a new ROM? I'm curious if he is making his own ROM or porting CM. I think Inception was just a stripped down official version of 2.3.5. I would love to see a CM 10 port and not just a repacked stripped ROM.

Oh my gosh with all the discussions about this. BE PATIENT. You all have no idea how much time it takes. Take a look at Inception. It took 1 week just to theme. If you want a stable, JB rom for bounty, the Collective doesn't release half ass working JB builds. Take a look
dman3285 from the Gnote thread said:
Jellybean will be coming soon.. but only when its stable.. no need to release a half ass working build.. just an update.. we are known for stability, not for being the first to the finish line, quality is our goal...:thumbup:
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Please forgive me, I'm sorry for being harsh but I've seen so many threads about this in such a short period of time. Dman and his team the Collective dev for 4-5 devices. I've been learning dev for 6 months and so far all I can do is basic tweaking to apks and decompiling them, as well as putting them in a zip.
Seriously. Just be patient, some of you. Reported for moving, btw
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This is not a port. It's compiling from source. 10 times harder and time consuming. But less chance for bugs.
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Inception was made without the device. It would've been near impossible to build AOSP blindly. (AOSP is pure, vanilla, Android)
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This is not an opinion poll. The devs make it how they like it, you're lucky they post it for you. They could just keep it to themselves. Feature requests are always good, but not "I like CM but I don't want a stripped modified ROM"
Thanks

After having spent the past 5 hours flashing various kernels/ROMs in my gf's xperia x10 mini pro due to various bugs, I will have to agree - in the end, stability is a must, and I am certain dman is working his magic as we speak, no need to get impatient

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Everyone is being patient. Were thankful to have any devs working on this device. I just havent seen any posts directly from dman about what he's working on for the Glide. I could have missed the post, thats why I asked. But it would be cool to see a post directly from him about it and not just speculation.

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No matter how patient everyone is being, these types of threads still keep getting started in Development. They do not belong there. They belong in General. Keep them in general. Thank you for your cooperation.

Please, everyone, just take a sit, grab a drink, and wait for dman to do his magic

I'm all for quality over a rushed job. Dev'ing is hard, especially for an under-popular device like our own. Fewer fellow devs to help out and carry the load, and more people putting the pressure on because they're impatiently excited.
Give the devs their time, it will be alright. I'm still happy with INCEPTIONv1, more so than the leaked ICS.
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CM10 Beta for Samsung Captivate Glide
OP update the post!!!!

Development for the G?

heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon

spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Most progress updates happen in IRC chat. irc.freenode.net #lg-optimus-g

Each & Every Day were are Growing!
spaceosc said:
heys i havent spent any real time in this section of XDA, currently have a EVO 3D, tons of development there. how is it over here? the dev section seems kinda empty.. thoughts?
need to get an LTE phone soon
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Heya, believe it or not we are both coming from the same place. I loved my EVO 3D and hacked it to the max. However, has the months went by the phone's specs were no longer "flagship" quality. As a result, I went with LG OG after much and I mean much research. To your answer it is not empty but it just in hibernation until Jelly Bean is released, which is going to happen at any time very soon for Korean already has it (End of Jan I hope). So the devs are holding back releases for roms until JB but CM and ASOP are all in development as we speak.
Great Link for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064215
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2080610
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2009531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083320
P.S - It is SOOO much easier to root and unlock this phone compared to our EVO 3D. Even a one click tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039421

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^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?

thistimearound said:
Space, I don't have a wide berth of knowledge to give you, as this is only my 2nd Android smartphone. That said, the development here is severely lacking. There were a lot of hotshots promising things they couldn't deliver early on (like this phone is exactly the same as the Nexus 4, lol). They say all the action happens in IRC but log in there. Try it. Back yet? Didn't learn **** did you? No one talks about development there. It's like a business meeting about more meetings. They talk about what they need to be developing.
In the end, I'm not helping, so I can't really complain, but it's slightly frustrating to have a beast of a phone that no one is improving. Least of all LG. When I've attempted to get information I've been ignored or given the "we don't really know" SLASH "stfu kid" response. If you find good development news I'd love to see it.
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Many of us work, I work full time and have kids. Plus I have several other projects. If you honestly think nothing is getting done, maybe you should check github. Look at the amount of work being done towards cm10.1 for the lgog.
Not all development is ROMs and themes. Most of it happens before you see those ROMs and mods. Sure I could copy paste a rom together on my phone and call it something. Then everyone would think it was so cool, but the fact is it wouldn't be much different then what we already have. Will I build a stock based rom? Yes. Kernels? Yes. Aosp ROMs, yes. Some fancy aroma kitchen sink mod. Yup. Will I be doing this all within a week of getting the device and doing my research on it? Nope. There are like 20 sensors on this phone. Not to mention a ton of testing on kernels, what's bloat, what's a proprietary driver/lib vs source built. You need to remember that all of the development is done in peoples spare time. The phone is fast so no rush making it
Faster. The software is decent and has some decent feature without a lot of annoying issues so no rush there. Battery could be improved but thats mostly usage based. Nothing is crippled on this phone so there isn't exactly a huge rush to fix something on it. That is a good thing. We can pace ourselves and get more creative instead of fixing crap that should work already.
The biggest issue is not being jb+. That is being worked on daily by many people. I plan on helping as well but I agree with most of the devs on waiting for the korean source drop.
Give this phone time and it'll be crawling with flashy things.
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To add on to what Jokersax said, there is alot of development going on, but not as roms. CM10.1 technically works, but there is a bug that wont allow your to see anything on it. Would you like somebody to post it for you to test? We have to get a device tree going, and see what mods from other phones work here, and what we need to chance to get the different roms we build up and going. I am fairly new on the dev scene, but I am working on a rom ATM, just about to get out of the testing phase for my first public build (in the dev section). b-reezy is also working on porting MIUI, removing LG software to make it almost completely AOSP, and getting a few themes on our device, and helping me learn more as I go. We have alot of devs, but between real life events, and the time to make everything work it takes time. How long does a take big companies to get updates out that have dedicated developers? For LG it has been over a year to update one generation of android. Just be happy we can update it before that. Also if you sit enough on IRC you can find stuff (I found a flashable korean rom for our phone that boots, is english, but doesnt have 3g/4g/wifi working and such, so it is not posted here yet), but alot of it is people working in their free time, and all my talk about my work is either in my what do you want in my roms thread under Q&A, where there is already 3 test builds of my rom, and some of us are talking individually, like joker right above me, and b-reezy both talk to me daily on Gtalk the last several days to about 2 weeks for each one of them. And I cant remotely do anything as good as they can. Just wait a month or two then you will be spammed with roms and kernels to use. Try hitting up the Nook Tablet thread and see how development is going on there- I have had it over a year and there isnt even 2 dozen roms for it. It is all a matter on how locked the device is, and the drivers and such for the phone. Also we may be able to port stuff from the Nexus 4 BUT THIS IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING! We have a locked boatloader, the nexus doesnt (really big difference for dev work), plus GSM vs. CDMA radios is alot harder to dev for it seems like in the beginning. It is annoying how people complain about dev work not being fast enough yet they dont even remotely understand how any of it works. FYI we will probably have Jellybean on our device before LG releases it. 4.2 is the primary concern for the bigger devs right now. IF ANYBODY CANT FIND OUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENT ON IRC JUST ASK, OR EMAIL OR GTALK ME AT [email protected] FOR MINE AND OTHER DEVS LATEST WORK. LET THEM WORK ON IT IN THEIR FREE TIME FOR FREE, AND I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WHILE I AM AT SCHOOL OR WAITING FOR PRACTICE TO START. If you payed these devs then you complain, other than that STFU. There is alot of stuff that goes on that we cant account for ahead of time.

Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.

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Jeeze people, devs do this stuff as a hobby. Who are we to ***** that they don't do it fast enough, as one who has no programming skills I'm just grateful to the guys who do the work to make a killer device even better. Am I itching for some CM goodness? Sure, but I can wait, this phone is awesome as is.
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Ex f'n xactly. I just appreciate anything I can get. Stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. Oh God I hope I said that right!!!
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It's picking up really well. I truly love the beginning of development life for great phones. I also had the evo 3d and enjoyed it grow from cleanrom to jellybean 4.1.

I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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pretty things are soon to come. Just need to gets bugs and such out. My work somewhat, but mostly others devs I have been talking to.

kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
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Agreed. Pressure should be put on LG to update and release source. This is what we need to get more things rolling.
That being said, even though this software is only ICS, this is my first Android that I don't mind stock. I've run all the versions of ZV9 so far and stock deodex with some tweaks runs wonderfully. I'm coming from Touch wiz and Sense systems where they skin and change everything. I'll always be a Vanilla head, but I'm just as stoked to see what LG does with jellybean. This stock software isn't that far from AOSP really.
Also I don't see what the hoopla is about trying to port Nexus 4. This phone has way more potential than that.

kc_exactly said:
I really don't mind not having cm10. I personally would rather have stock jb. This LG stuff isn't half bad. The only thing for me is I get easily bored. I like the super cool themed roms with pretty things. But, that being said, jelly bean came out like forever ago. We are on like 4.2.2. I am more upset with LG. It isn't like they didn't know it was coming.
I completely agree. However, is this all that surprising? This is my first LG but it's my understanding they're notoriously bad with updates.
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nickespi said:
^^^ I agree with what you said. In fact ive seen this.on many phones. Most of the blame is on lg for releasing the phone half ass. And also there wasent enough marketing put into the phone quite honest. By no means this isnt a flagship phone. Just because its labled as one. True the specs are nice but the fact that released with bugs and with ICS is complete bullcrap and a let down for sure. Further its just the nature of this forum to have to many chiefs not enough indians type of deal. Best way to learn anything is just to read up learn a little bit and have a clear mind and confidence u wont mess up your phone hahaha?
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If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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genaro12543 said:
If you didn't want ICS why'd you buy it? ICS runs perfect on this phone so far I'm glad there isn't much to fix. Remember the epic or the photon or the evo/evo3d those phones had issues this one has one wake lock and gets a little warm and the keyboard bug was fixed, by lg. I am grateful that this phone has little to no bugs and also that we have these skilled devs that are not only willing to tackle some of the issues to make this phone as perfect as possible but also that they're working at all to get cm or aosp on the device. Were not entitled to anything and like I said the phone already runs and looks great so we can be patient
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are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..

nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldent you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?

nickespi said:
are you serious with this rant??
The Point of BUYING A TOP OF THE LINE PHONE IS FOR THE LATEST UPDATES ON IT!! I BOUGHT IT ACTUALLY BASED ON THE PRESS SAYING IT WAS GOING TO RELEASE WITH Jellybean/or it would soon after which has been far from the truth.
YET IVE actually owned all those other phone that you mentioned as well. And yes eventually they received some nice DEV, all but the Photon which left such a bad taste in my mouth that I would never buy a MOTOROLA again!
That was all 3 years back respectively. Wouldn't you think a company would learn from past mistakes of other manufactures? Especially when they are "debuting" a "flagship device" Bottom Line - Its not smart.. You have you opinion, but no need to make an excuse for a companies bad decision. That is just Fact my friend....
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One last thing actually as a consumer we are entitled to timely updates by LG as Big as a company as they are to put the correct resources in the right places to ensure its consumers who pay for there premium product to have the most up to date software!! It would also make dev a hell of a lot easier too.
It has not been long yet so i have a little patience left..
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Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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jokersax11 said:
no love for the photon, you know it has 4.2 right?
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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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genaro12543 said:
Fine OK you have a longer rant you win.
As a consumer were entitled to a working phone that works out of the box. If lg figured they could make stable software with ice cream sandwich so be it. The phone runs great on it.
And if youre gonna speak of being a consumer then you should save your rants for lg not xda. The devs are just doing what they can no need to get pushy
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!

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Yeah I know Joker, but the phone didnt hold my interest long enough!! I waited and waited, had to kick it to the curb!! Does Wimax work on the 4.2? Because the unlock bootloader and no wimax isnt an option
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Pushy?
I cant even take you serious!! Bring facts*
As Stated its simply not good for business* Fact*. This is the Gen section so all rants apply here, regardless of your personal opinions/feelings - Maybe you can state your opinion and try not to tell people what to THINK. LOL I guess you would also fall into my statement about "Chiefs & Indians"??
IT GOES UNSAID THAT THE DEVS DESERVE CREDIT (They work with what they're given) - no need to constantly push that on people, obviously the devs are in control. To many of them there is some Incentive that also goes unsaid or unheard too. But to each their own!!
Hopefully the JB update for the Korean version means good news for us too!! Cant Wait*** I know there will be some good dev!
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I agree with everything you said I just think its easier to be patient when things are kept in perspective. I too am disappointed lg didn't reach they're original promise of jb by December but I'm happy the phone works great and that lg didn't hurt the software TOO MUCH so there isn't problems.
And I'm glad you said you appreciate the devs work I just didn't wanna see the opposite and assumed you were being pushy because you said you agree with that guys post that sounded very demanding just cuz he couldn't see work done on irc.
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