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I was using GPS navigation on google nav and playing music through the HTC media player and GPS signal wouldnt stick if i was moving, only if i was standing still. Something is preventing this multitasking. I need someone to test if it is just me or my ROM or these specific apps. I am running fresh .2 ROM btw.
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GPS breaks when playing music through the external speaker. The signal will be lost, or really spotty until you stop playing music. HTC has not commented on the issue. Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it possible to fix?
yep i am using stock unrooted evo and i get same problem i was playinf music thru stock player and go to google nav and it wont find gps signal after pausing music it finds signal them i turn the music bak on and it looses signal
Haven't tried the stock music player, but I listen t
o podcast all the time while using the gps.
i think its a bug in the htc stock player i tried same thing with doubletwist player and get no issues
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i got lost signal on gps also with doubletwist now seems like a bug with google nav
Could you post your ROMs if rooted and also has anyone tried Sprint Nav? I will go and grab a sprint nav apk and test when I get a chance. This is very inconvenient and I am curious as to why it isnt working.
Uhhh, no problems here, playing mp3 from SD card using stock music player and got a GPS lock in a matter of seconds.
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-Edit- Mine works sometimes but mostly doesn't, so yeah bug is present
anyone hear anything from htc about this, posted on their site and twitter and didnt hear anything, maybe i should call about this issue.
I don't use the stock music player app for anything but I experience this exact issue when trying to use pandora and the GPS. As soon as i shut pandora off it picks up signal again.
NEW FIND, any app, GPS and MUSIC through the speaker causes GPS signal to be lost. It works while using headphones but not the speaker.
Wow, is this a hardware or software issue?
You know, I actually forgot about this for a while, there has been no official word on this bug, and I havent heard anyone knowing why this happens.
I never even thought to try running my gps without music, I just thought it had a very crappy gps antenna or something. I have yet to try it without music to verify this as well, but tomorrow I probably will test it out.
Just a wild stab at the dark, but maybe the magnet in the external speaker interferes with the GPS antennae? Not too sure about that though....
Hmmm, would be interesting if the placement of the speaker and the GPS is the actual problem, I really hope not though. The problem doesn't occur when the GPS app uses the speaker or you get a notification playing on the speaker though, maybe the duration is short enough to not loose the signal? I emailed HTC about this issue, didn't have time to call them about it.
I can verify this, did a two hour trip last night and didn't lose the signal once with the music not playing.
Yes, it's because of the speakers
This is a funny problem. Something about the speakers is interfering with the GPS reception. It's not just that the speakers are on, but how loud it is. The louder the sound, the worse the reception.
I'm running the stock ROM. I used GPS Status and the stock music player. I played a song that is fairly constant in loudness, and noticed that as I turned up the volume, I would start loosing GPS satellites, and then as I turned the down the volume, I would get more GPS satellites.
Update: I tried the same test out on my Hero, and it definitely doesn't have the problem.
Ha, HTC already knows about it. And it doesn't look like they're gonna do anything about it, and this guys reply probably explains why my car charger takes forever to charge my phone.
Dear "My Name",
I understand that the GPS Signal will be lost is you use your device GPS with Music playing. As the device pulls more resources from the battery, the phone may become warm. The device has a built in sensor that registers the amount of heat the phone is generating and will shut down some features as the device heats up. Normally the Charging port will be turned off first, then the various radios will be disabled such as GPS, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. If you are experiencing an issue while using multiple features of the device at the same time, I recommend that you stop using one or more of the programs and see if the problem persists (As you have). I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number "My Ticket Number".
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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Ha, HTC already knows about it. And it doesn't look like they're gonna do anything about it, and this guys reply probably explains why my car charger takes forever to charge my phone.
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If that's indeed the case, one can try underclocking to prevent the heat buildup.
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If that's indeed the case, one can try underclocking to prevent the heat buildup.
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Nope, HTC is just throwing something silly. What they describe may be true, but playing music doesn't instantly generate heat, nor does that heat instantly disipate once you turn down the volume, or plug in a headset.
As I tested above, you can slowly degrade your reception by turning the volume up slowly. This is clearly a different issue, and it is a reasonable inference that there is some sort of interference between the speaker and GPS.
Also, if HTC insists, you can prove them wrong by keeping the phone plugged in and showing that it is still charging the battery even when the GPS looses signal.
I experienced a series of reboots on my phone this weekend while driving and using the phone via a bluetooth headset. Simultaneously I was attempting to use Google navigation. I typically could connect to my caller and then would reboot within 10 seconds or so. This happened three times before I was able to figure out that the GPS connection was a culprit and temporally disabled GPS while using the phone.
Lamest part and this isn't the first time this has occurred! On the original firmware shipped from HTC I had a few identical crashes that I have only now realized were because of this combination of GPS+bluetooth.
Right now I'm running a simple OTA update + root using toast's method.
Hello,
So we're definitly getting there : more and more fixes for our Android ROMS on the HD2. Major bugs are fewer every month and I'm sure we'll reach a very very close-to-native feel in a matter of months.
Still, some bugs seem resistant or maybe, not looked into. That's the case for the stock headset behavior.
Support for the stock headset has been released a few months are the first Nand Android ROMS back in January but was never really improved. And to be completely honest, it never really worked.
Here is the buggy behavior
Musing listening :
When plugged in, the headset will behave properly : back, pause/play, next buttons respond quite well. However after a while (around a minute of music playback I would say but I guess it could be timed more precisely), they don't. Pausing or skipping to the next song might work but most of the time, it would ask several attempts (from two to ten or more !).
The back button never works : either it does not respond at all, either it behaves as a forward song, skipping to the next song.
You have to actually interact with the player with the touchscreen to restore headset responsiveness. Until it breaks again a minute later.
Call answering :
This is a field I didn't experiment much : as answering a call with the headset is a gamble, I tend to quickly disconnect the headset in order to respond. If not, answering with the Play/pause button might not work or might ask for way too many attempts. If I succeed to answer, the person will generally tell me that he or she can't hear me well. Mic issue ?
This happens with every ROM out there, with every kernel, with every Music player, stock or third-party.
I don't have my HD2 with me now (back to HTC for a while) so I can't provide logcat but I'm sure there are other music listeners out there who will help out.
I don't know if it's kernel related or not but I would assume it won't be that hard to fix...we just need someone who look into this.
I'll try to keep the OP updated with new information as it comes out...
I have a blackberry headset that works great. No such problems with pausing and resuming music or even answering calls for hours on end, with long holding to voice dial.
On cm7 roms you can long hold volume up with screen off to skip songs, no problems here, perhaps try another headset.
It seems it works fine with other headset yes but it means it's really not a big issue to fix for users who uses the stock headset...
DannyBiker said:
Hello,
So we're definitly getting there : more and more fixes for our Android ROMS on the HD2. Major bugs are fewer every month and I'm sure we'll reach a very very close-to-native feel in a matter of months.
Still, some bugs seem resistant or maybe, not looked into. That's the case for the stock headset behavior.
Support for the stock headset has been released a few months are the first Nand Android ROMS back in January but was never really improved. And to be completely honest, it never really worked.
Here is the buggy behavior
Musing listening :
When plugged in, the headset will behave properly : back, pause/play, next buttons respond quite well. However after a while (around a minute of music playback I would say but I guess it could be timed more precisely), they don't. Pausing or skipping to the next song might work but most of the time, it would ask several attempts (from two to ten or more !).
The back button never works : either it does not respond at all, either it behaves as a forward song, skipping to the next song.
You have to actually interact with the player with the touchscreen to restore headset responsiveness. Until it breaks again a minute later.
Call answering :
This is a field I didn't experiment much : as answering a call with the headset is a gamble, I tend to quickly disconnect the headset in order to respond. If not, answering with the Play/pause button might not work or might ask for way too many attempts. If I succeed to answer, the person will generally tell me that he or she can't hear me well. Mic issue ?
This happens with every ROM out there, with every kernel, with every Music player, stock or third-party.
I don't have my HD2 with me now (back to HTC for a while) so I can't provide logcat but I'm sure there are other music listeners out there who will help out.
I don't know if it's kernel related or not but I would assume it won't be that hard to fix...we just need someone who look into this.
I'll try to keep the OP updated with new information as it comes out...
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As for the music, i mainly use the volume rockers on device for volume + (next/prev), the play/pause button does work when songs are playing but after pausing and idling for sometime, the device goes to sleep and the key does nothing (This might be actual behavior ? as the kernel goes into suspend, needs to be checked on a htc with native android)
The call behaviour is true as per your explanation. The mic inuse when wired headsets are plugged is of the device and not of the headset, i have verified this by placing the device away with headset plugged in and gradually bringing it close during a call.
I had recently bought the stock original headset. working very well. i use poweramp. play / pause ffw rwd are all working even when screen is off.
i can answer calls with the call button and the caller can hear me clearly.
maybe another rom or another headset can bring in some varied results.
Then it must be hardware related. I have an EU HD2 and I swear it doesn't work with any rom (Sense/ASOP-CM7/MIUI), any kernel, any player.
What I think would be great is if someone could get it to work perfectly with a set of iphone headphones. EVERYONE makes a nice set of headphones for that dang phone and their cheep
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+1 for the idea !
well..with rafpigna/hieros kernel the headset works almost 100%.
I mean:
when phone is on, everything works 100%
when it is sleeping but music is playong, it works 100%
when radio is playing and the phone is sleeping: I can switch channels and stop it but then I cannot do anything.
with tytungs kernel I could not do anything when the screen was off and the phone was sleeping.
(in the same ROM of course)
so it is bug in kernel drivers
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Then it must be hardware related. I have an EU HD2 and I swear it doesn't work with any rom (Sense/ASOP-CM7/MIUI), any kernel, any player.
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Since you mentioned that, mine is T-Mobile. Might be hardware related.
how about trying Tytung 12.4 v3 kernel?
how about reading the low speakers/Mic gain fix thread?
it's fixed i think, i don't have these issues after installing typhoo' cm7 build with this kernel...
Hello, long time WFS owner, first time poster on this site.
Ever since I've owned the Wildfire, I've been rather perplexed by the music it gives me. The sound quality itself seems decent, but the controls are... odd. Almost every time I press play the music starts, then after around 3 seconds there's a notable pause, before it starts up again. It's not a big deal, but it makes me wonder whether this is a normal thing on this handheld, or if it's a problem with the SD card I'm using. I managed to get a 32GB class 10 micro SD on sale, so I hope nothing's wrong with it. It doesn't seem to miss-handle any other files I put on it (except for some pictures that turn all black sometimes...)
I tried to use some alternatives like Player Pro or Power Amp, but these actually made the problem far worse or introduced all sorts of new bugs. On P.P. instead of a gap of silence at 3 seconds I get this high-pitched screech. Once the music starts playing it's OK, it doesn't do it at the beginning of every song, just occasionally (and certainly more often than I would like) when I hit the play button and start the music. Another thing both P.P. and P.A. suffer from is buggy lock screens and buggy screen rotations. I remember both crashing a lot while music was playing when all I would do is turn the phone on it's side.
Has anyone else noticed problems like this?
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Hello, long time WFS owner, first time poster on this site.
Ever since I've owned the Wildfire, I've been rather perplexed by the music it gives me. The sound quality itself seems decent, but the controls are... odd. Almost every time I press play the music starts, then after around 3 seconds there's a notable pause, before it starts up again. It's not a big deal, but it makes me wonder whether this is a normal thing on this handheld, or if it's a problem with the SD card I'm using. I managed to get a 32GB class 10 micro SD on sale, so I hope nothing's wrong with it. It doesn't seem to miss-handle any other files I put on it (except for some pictures that turn all black sometimes...)
I tried to use some alternatives like Player Pro or Power Amp, but these actually made the problem far worse or introduced all sorts of new bugs. On P.P. instead of a gap of silence at 3 seconds I get this high-pitched screech. Once the music starts playing it's OK, it doesn't do it at the beginning of every song, just occasionally (and certainly more often than I would like) when I hit the play button and start the music. Another thing both P.P. and P.A. suffer from is buggy lock screens and buggy screen rotations. I remember both crashing a lot while music was playing when all I would do is turn the phone on it's side.
Has anyone else noticed problems like this?
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I have no problem with any music player,it must be something wrong with your card.I still use the 2 GB stock card.For the best sound quality use PowerAMP,much better than stock player.And also better headset would be recomended.
i use poweramp and have no problems.
also, if you change the settings to "no fading" under the audio engine settings, change buffer size to "huge(+750ms)", and keep audio priority at "+2", you can get gapless playback on standard mp3 files most of the time....occassionally you'll still get that slight blip between tracks, but it's way better than anything else i've tried without having to re-rip everything to a totally different format. (p.s. don't set it to "crossfade" or "cut silence", as i've found this makes it worse for some reason).
i used to hear what i think you're describing as a "screech" sound, i think it sounds more like you can hear the processor working between loading songs or something, but to be honest, i only ever heard it between really quiet song endings/beginnings and only on the stock headset,while listening in my totally silent room, at night...
currently using a cheap-as-chips smartphone headset adapter/mic connected to my KOSS pathfinder "plug" style headphones, using the EQ settings of PowerAmp, and it sounds amazing. The headphones bock out all outside noise, and give plenty of bass and still great mids and highs. to be honest, this is the best setup i've heard on a phone, if you need somethign better, you'd have to get a standalone mp3 player (and this sounds better than most of those, without going for somethign that's speficically designed for high quality audio, as opposed to some cheap and cheerful generic mp3).
No, it's not usual, you should uninstall your player and maybe download another one, if all your mp3 files have this problem then it mustn't be the music files.
And Set your phone back to factory spec is the last choice
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also, if you change the settings to "no fading" under the audio engine settings, change buffer size to "huge(+750ms)", and keep audio priority at "+2", you can get gapless playback on standard mp3 files most of the time....occassionally you'll still get that slight blip between tracks, but it's way better than anything else i've tried without having to re-rip everything to a totally different format. (p.s. don't set it to "crossfade" or "cut silence", as i've found this makes it worse for some reason).
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It's not really a gap problem, and I personally like gaps between my songs. I often listen to songs on shuffle and it can be a little distracting when it seamlessly switches from soft classical to System of a Down rocking hard, lol. But yeah, it's really: The song starts, enough of it playing that I can recognize which song it is, awkward 2-3 second pause of absolute silence, then it picks up again. Not every time I start enough, but it does it enough for me to consider it a recurring problem.
All I can do is go buy a new micro-SD card I guess... I lent the stock 2 GB one that came with the device to a friend, so I can't exactly use that. I swear, all these bugs, combined with the fact that this thing seems impossible to Root (I have a GSM model) makes me sorely tempted to crawl back to iOS for my next model. I just with the iPhones didn't have such puny screens...
My old wfs use to do the same thing, play music for 10 secounds or so and then stop, idk why it did that but that phone was a problem, everytime I hung up from a call the screen would turn off for 3 mins everytime and the touch screen never works, so some phones do it and dont...but I got a new one and I love it Works great
HTC Wildfire S (VM) "s-off" "rooted" Stock Rom
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New D851 running 20G stock (but rooted).
I paired it with my car (late model Toyota) and as soon as it connects every time I get in and start the car, it starts playing music. Something about LG Life is Good themes. They are in the default Music app.
I don't use my phone to play music, and had never opened the music app before this started. I use the paired audio for streaming apps (This American Life, in the current situation). Anyway, I manually stopped the music and got my TAL streaming. As I was driving along, I got a text message. The car read me the text message (my son found his homework, yea), then reconnected the audio player, and started playing the MUSIC again, not my This American Life.
It has done this repeatedly, even after a reboot.
My prior phone (running stock android 5.1.1) didn't have this problem... it would pick up in whatever app it left off, and wouldn't START playing something if nothing was running already.
How do I stop this aberrant behavior?
FWIW, I deleted all those stock LG songs and the problem "went away" but I'm sure if I put other music in there it will start up again with automatic play.
I haven't tweaked anything in the phone to cause this, and it's the stock ROM, so someone else has got to have seen it... Anybody?
Frankenscript said:
FWIW, I deleted all those stock LG songs and the problem "went away" but I'm sure if I put other music in there it will start up again with automatic play.
I haven't tweaked anything in the phone to cause this, and it's the stock ROM, so someone else has got to have seen it... Anybody?
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What folder was the music in that you deleted? I have a major issue with bluetooth pairing with my 16 Honda Accord. Bluetooth has stopped occurs over and over when phone and car are trying to connect to eachother. Seems to connect then phone bluetooth drops. Only time it seems to work is when the music app starts automatically. That on happens once in a while, maybe twice in the week that I have had the car. It's really frustrating, but think it has something to do with the automatic start of music.
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What folder was the music in that you deleted? I have a major issue with bluetooth pairing with my 16 Honda Accord. Bluetooth has stopped occurs over and over when phone and car are trying to connect to eachother. Seems to connect then phone bluetooth drops. Only time it seems to work is when the music app starts automatically. That on happens once in a while, maybe twice in the week that I have had the car. It's really frustrating, but think it has something to do with the automatic start of music.
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I believe the music I deleted was simply in the "music" folder ... it was the stock music LG puts there as part of the stock ROM. I don't store music on the phone; my Bluetooth pairing is for phone and streaming various radio shows, so I never put any music into that folder. I'm quite certain if I put my own music there, it would auto-play as well.
I usually leave Bluetooth on (on the phone) all the time, and when I turn on my 2015 Toyota, the phone and audio player (or whatever it's called) pair as soon as the car is finished booting up. (that sounds weird, describing a car as booting). If my car is in Bluetooth audio mode (instead of FM radio for example), nothing much happens now that I've deleted those song. I simply go into my streaming app, start it, and it works.
What I have found, is that that if I get a text while I'm driving and streaming something, if I press the button on the car dash to read the text to me (in the car's soothing feminine voice), after it's done reading it aloud, I have to mess with stuff to get the streaming to pick up again, which sort of defeats the purpose of "hands free." So I pull over, mess around, and get back on the road.
It's possible that the car's defaults are conflicting with the phone's defaults, in a way my prior phone/rom didn't trip over. I will try to sort it out, and report back here.
Would you be willing to start a thread over in the LG G3 main forum (not this T-Mobile one)? I hesitate to cross-post, but maybe a wider audience would help us. I doubt this is a T-mo specific problem.
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I believe the music I deleted was simply in the "music" folder ... it was the stock music LG puts there as part of the stock ROM. I don't store music on the phone; my Bluetooth pairing is for phone and streaming various radio shows, so I never put any music into that folder. I'm quite certain if I put my own music there, it would auto-play as well.
I usually leave Bluetooth on (on the phone) all the time, and when I turn on my 2015 Toyota, the phone and audio player (or whatever it's called) pair as soon as the car is finished booting up. (that sounds weird, describing a car as booting). If my car is in Bluetooth audio mode (instead of FM radio for example), nothing much happens now that I've deleted those song. I simply go into my streaming app, start it, and it works.
What I have found, is that that if I get a text while I'm driving and streaming something, if I press the button on the car dash to read the text to me (in the car's soothing feminine voice), after it's done reading it aloud, I have to mess with stuff to get the streaming to pick up again, which sort of defeats the purpose of "hands free." So I pull over, mess around, and get back on the road.
It's possible that the car's defaults are conflicting with the phone's defaults, in a way my prior phone/rom didn't trip over. I will try to sort it out, and report back here.
Would you be willing to start a thread over in the LG G3 main forum (not this T-Mobile one)? I hesitate to cross-post, but maybe a wider audience would help us. I doubt this is a T-mo specific problem.
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Downgraded from lollipop to kit kat and bluetooth is no longer dropping. However I did have music start automatically playing as you posted here. I will follow the same steps you outlined to stop that from occurring.
i get it where if i've changed the battery(i use the free charger and extra battery) and get in the car, it'll play my ringtones i downloaded from zedge, unless i've started/paused the music before hand...one thing that's irritating to me is that it'll start track that was playing when i got out of the car over when i get back into the car...so if i'm making a bunch of little trips, i hear the same song, over and over and over and over again, unless i skip to the next track each time
I've been experience a few issues with the new update. One of them, which is more a nuisance than anything, is my bluetooth connection to my car. It's a 2015 Mustang with MyFord Touch. The phone is a galaxy S8+. About 1/3 of the time when I start the car, the phone shows up named a bunch of random characters, instead of Galaxy S8+. Not a huge deal. My music player starts automatically (even if I close it, and kill the process). The thing that's weird is that the audio is kind of hollow sounding when it starts up UNTIL I turn on the phones display, then it kicks into a fuller sound. It's never done this before. Not only that, but it decides when it wants to display track information from Samsung music player only a small portion of the time.
If I'm playing music through Amazon Music, it updates the track information, no problem. If I switch to Samsung's music player, it just displays the last track I played on Amazon music, and never changes. If I start the car with the music player going, it won't update track information until it gets to the next song, and even that is spotty.
Aside from these issues, and the issues I'm having with the default browser, I think it's a pretty good update. But this music thing is really bugging me. For the record, I've tried rebooting the phone. I've tried changing through the AVRCP versions in the developer options, I've toggled Dolby Atmos on and off, changed the sample rate, channels, etc. Nothing seems to be affecting this problem.
On a side note, how do I close the music player so it doesn't automatically start playing when connected to bluetooth?
Thanks in advance. If this doesn't belong here, let me know.
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I've been experience a few issues with the new update. One of them, which is more a nuisance than anything, is my bluetooth connection to my car. It's a 2015 Mustang with MyFord Touch. The phone is a galaxy S8+. About 1/3 of the time when I start the car, the phone shows up named a bunch of random characters, instead of Galaxy S8+. Not a huge deal. My music player starts automatically (even if I close it, and kill the process). The thing that's weird is that the audio is kind of hollow sounding when it starts up UNTIL I turn on the phones display, then it kicks into a fuller sound. It's never done this before. Not only that, but it decides when it wants to display track information from Samsung music player only a small portion of the time.
If I'm playing music through Amazon Music, it updates the track information, no problem. If I switch to Samsung's music player, it just displays the last track I played on Amazon music, and never changes. If I start the car with the music player going, it won't update track information until it gets to the next song, and even that is spotty.
Aside from these issues, and the issues I'm having with the default browser, I think it's a pretty good update. But this music thing is really bugging me. For the record, I've tried rebooting the phone. I've tried changing through the AVRCP versions in the developer options, I've toggled Dolby Atmos on and off, changed the sample rate, channels, etc. Nothing seems to be affecting this problem.
On a side note, how do I close the music player so it doesn't automatically start playing when connected to bluetooth?
Thanks in advance. If this doesn't belong here, let me know.
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Did you ever try to update your car's firmware or going to your dealer and ask for it? I think it's because Android 9 is "too new" for your car
I updated to the latest firmware about 6 months ago. No new updates since then. It would be kinda bogus if android 9 made a 4 year old car obsolete, but i suppose it's possible.
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I updated to the latest firmware about 6 months ago. No new updates since then. It would be kinda bogus if android 9 made a 4 year old car obsolete, but i suppose it's possible.
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It could be possible that you have to expect for a new car firmware or ask to your device forum if anyone else have your same problem with android auto
Good call. I'll pop the question over to my mustang forum. Thanks.
DarcSystems said:
Good call. I'll pop the question over to my mustang forum. Thanks.
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Post it on your mobile device forum too